Dibblekins said:

Thank You for posting this.

cloveringold85 said:

phaty choose that avatar just to get a reaction, and make some people angry.

PennyPurple said:

PennyPurple said:

Then it has to be different for different individuals. Not saying it doesn't happen BC u clearly have seen it. I just know for me, after 10 surgeries with rods, p!ates and screws from my neck to my tailbone, these meds have saved my life and the only side effects I've had are some drowsiness, vivid dreams (nightmares) and good ole constipation lol. And I'm on some strong stuff lol. Some meds do cause organ failure as mentioned but others don't. Anyhow, i am so sorry about the failed surgeries (I've had that also) and pray ur hubby has found relief and living life to the fullest. True me, I get it, I've been there
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This tragic story of the two young boys, dragging Prince into the piece, is another reason why the autopsy report should be released. Just put the truth out there, once and for all.

1Sasha said:

-/ Exactly the media is making him the poster boy for drug use. The stuff that killed these boys was mixed in with other stuff in the Watson 335 pills. From what we know from the unamed sources we know a big of the stuff was not found.

Superconductor said:

zenarose said:

"…The name of this thread is:…"

"…Prince's Death: Information & THEORIES; Pills Seized From Paisley Park contained illicit fentanyl…"

"…//////////////////////…"

"…Full Definition of theory plural …"

theories

1. 1 : the analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another

2. 2 : abstract thought : speculation

3. 3 : the general or abstract principles of a body of fact, a science, or an art <music theory>

4. 4a : a belief, policy, or procedure proposed or followed as the basis of action <her method is based on the theory that all children want to learn>b : an ideal or hypothetical set of facts, principles, or circumstances —often used in the phrase in theory <in theory, we have always advocated freedom for all>

5. 5 : a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena <the wave theory of light>

6. 6a : a hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigationb : an unproved assumption : conjecturec : a body of theorems presenting a concise systematic view of a subject <theory of equations>

"…Dibblekins, there it is. Theorising about facts is completely different to speculating about Prince's death not being accidental…"

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"…Instead, you employ strawmen arguments (i.e. people could start their own thread, I am only providing information), you use ad hominem (accusing me of being rude etc when I simply asked you analytical questions about your original statement) and logical fallacies (i.e. your claim - in the UK 48% of death certificates contain a mistake. Prince has a death certificate. Therefore Prince's death certificate must have a mistake). But with the latter you were careful enough to say "may" but that didn't stop others here to question the validity of the death certificate. For which there is absolutely no proof. And you also offered no valid link between the 48% in UK having any relevance to death certificate issued in the US or in MN or in relation to high profile celebrity cases with autopsies. This is called a red herring…"

Right On, Superconductor!

These people need to be taken to task whenever they spout all their specious babble.

If nobody ever spoke up against people like that, we'd still believe the earth was flat. Or that Aryans are a super race.

The shame of it is that, these people don't even realize that they're following the exact same pattern of thinking that frickin' Hitler followed.

oliviacamron said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Yea, and don't forget the childish cartoons & animations & having Prince's Urn as his avatar, but okay, whateva!!

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Different stroke for different folks

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phaty choose that avatar just to get a reaction, and make some people angry.

I no longer read his posts on any thread. Keep scrolling. Ignore & Poof button would be great.

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

Thank you for correcting your statement from "in the event a criminal investigation is opened"(which it already is)...to "until commencement of criminal PROCEEDINGS"..HUGE difference, and rewording makes all the difference in the definition of when the seal will be lifted.

"grins and giggles"??? seriously? I'm quite aware of what constitutes an investigation, hence my questioning of your wording. I was honestly just tryin to get clarity in case I missed something. There is no need for trying to demean others here. We are all here trying to figure this out on this forum with the best of intentions. You do some amazing research, and I appluad you for it. And btw, thanks for the clip yesterday of the interview with P's childhood friend and DJ in the Twin Cities.

-- I apologize I was not trying to demean you.

Thanks for that, Laura

PennyPurple said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:

PennyPurple said: Perhaps that is dependent on type of pain and the individual??? I say this BC ur husband has experienced increased pain BC of opiates, however, I myself have not and I've been on them 10 years BC of multiple spine surgeries and the chronic/debilitating pain from my issues. I also haven't experienced any damage to my organs BC my pain. Dr moved me off all meds that had the Tylenol in it.

Hubby has had several failed spinal surgeries that failed and he also has had decompression surgery and a metal plate in the back of his head.

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PennyPurple: I'm so sorry about what both you and your husband are going through. My husband had to have emergency surgery last year and had to have his gall bladder removed. He was in the hospital for a week. I was afraid I might lose him. Thank God he is okay now, but nothing like what you are going through!

NikkiED said:

Cloveringold85 - I just wanted to say thank you, I appreciate the interesting and thought provoking information you've been posting. The trouble with some people on here (a limited few) are unable to articulate a disagreement, opposite opinion without being overly aggressive which is one of the reasons why I do not post very often.

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Hi Nikkied: I appreciate the compliment. I always try and keep an open mind about everything, because in this world, anything is possible. I also respect everyone's opinion, even though I may not agree with them. I learned in life that everyone is not going to feel or think the same as I do, and we are all unique & I think we can all learn a lot from each other -- so it's best to just agree to disagree.

Mkilpatrick74 said:

cloveringold85 said:

You're welcome, PD...I carefully chose the thread: 'Information and Theories' in which to post what I thought was an interesting piece of (factual) information which might theoretically have some relevance to discussion here - and once again it leads to personal criticism about one's psyche and motives...All very unnecessary.

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I have to admit, I find myself wondering what are the motivations of those seeking to shut down perfectly innocuous discussion? To me, that's more worrisome - but I won't say any more about it.

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All I can say here is that some people need to chillax!! Not you, Dibbs or PurpleD, but just saying -- some people here don't have the ability to keep an open mind about things and act as though we are sitting in a Court of Law, which we are not. Geeze, chillax people! It's a conversation, not the Spanish Inquisition!!

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[/quote It's really sad that almost every thread now turns into an argument or involves personal attacks. I am afraid to even post my opinion bc I can't handle the level of hatefulness and belittling that way too many times comes if someone does not agree. I love this place and iv3 met some amazing people, so I try to ignore it; however, it's just out of control here lately. Truly sad bc I know it has to hurt Prince to be looking down on us from Heaven and seeing everyone turning against each other. Not pointing out anyone in particular at all ....it's a general observation [Edited 11/3/16 14:45pm] [Edited 11/3/16 14:46pm]

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I agree with you. I think some people can be a bit too hostile, but I try to understand their point of view. Some conversations do get heated, at times, but I think it's only because we are so passionate about our beliefs as to what happened to Prince. I think that sometimes, people can take things the wrong way, or misinterpret what someone is trying to convey, which happens a lot on message boards. The best form of communication is face-to-face, imo. But, this is all we got, so we gotta try and make the best of it.

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I certainly hope you stick around.

Mkilpatrack74 said:

cloveringold85 said:

Dibblekins said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

"…True...also the case is now being investigated as a homicide. Thanks Dibblekins for pointing out that errors do occur on autopsy reports. There was no way for them to tell how P was given that fatal dose of fentanyl…"

"…You're welcome, PD...I carefully chose the thread: 'Information and Theories' in which to post what I thought was an interesting piece of (factual) information which might theoretically have some relevance to discussion here - and once again it leads to personal criticism about one's psyche and motives...All very unnecessary. .I have to admit, I find myself wondering what are the motivations of those seeking to shut down perfectly innocuous discussion? To me, that's more worrisome - but I won't say any more about it. …"

"…All I can say here is that some people need to chillax!! Not you, Dibbs or PurpleD, but just saying -- some people here don't have the ability to keep an open mind about things and act as though we are sitting in a Court of Law, which we are not. Geeze, chillax people! It's a conversation, not the Spanish Inquisition!! …"

"…It's really sad that almost every thread now turns into an argument or involves personal attacks. I am afraid to even post my opinion bc I can't handle the level of hatefulness and belittling that way too many times comes if someone does not agree. I love this place and iv3 met some amazing people, so I try to ignore it; however, it's just out of control here lately. Truly sad bc I know it has to hurt Prince to be looking down on us from Heaven and seeing everyone turning against each other. Not pointing out anyone in particular at all ....it's a general observation…"

According to the man's own religious beliefs, Prince is neither feeling nor looking down on anything whatsover…

The Beliefs and Practices of Jehovah’s Witness

Life after death?

"…Members believe that, “…at death, humans cease to exist. The dead know, feel, and experience absolutely nothing.” Death is compared to sleep, because there is no consciousness, activity, or awareness of one’s surroundings…"

…Besides. Even if heaven did exist — {which it doesn't} — I would hope that its inhabitants would have more profound concerns than the petty vitriol spewed out by self-important, dictatorial bullies in an internet shit.show.

cloveringold85 said:

-/ There are people on this board who have an agenda. I don't know if they are with the media, attorneys, or 12 year old kids who have nothing else to do with there time. But the should realize this case is not open and shut. The discussion is not going to stop until the case is closed.

Superconductor said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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All I can say here is that some people need to chillax!! Not you, Dibbs or PurpleD, but just saying -- some people here don't have the ability to keep an open mind about things and act as though we are sitting in a Court of Law, which we are not. Geeze, chillax people! It's a conversation, not the Spanish Inquisition!!

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[/quote It's really sad that almost every thread now turns into an argument or involves personal attacks. I am afraid to even post my opinion bc I can't handle the level of hatefulness and belittling that way too many times comes if someone does not agree. I love this place and iv3 met some amazing people, so I try to ignore it; however, it's just out of control here lately. Truly sad bc I know it has to hurt Prince to be looking down on us from Heaven and seeing everyone turning against each other. Not pointing out anyone in particular at all ....it's a general observation [Edited 11/3/16 14:45pm] [Edited 11/3/16 14:46pm]

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The personal attacks are coming from the people who perpetuate speculation or what you call "keeping an open mind" and these ad hominem attacks are directed at the people who are challenging the speculative statements and logical fallacies.

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Dibblekins for example attacked me personally and became defensive when I challenged his/her statement.

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So the people who perpetuate speculation around Prince's death not being an accident and clutching to everything they can find to support their speculation suggests to me that these people are not able or willing to accept that it was an accident and are trying to find someone to blame.

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speculation

ˌspɛkjʊˈleɪʃn/

noun

1. 1.

   the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence.

accident

ˈaksɪd(ə)nt/

noun

1. 1.

   an unfortunate incident that happens unexpectedly and unintentionally, typically resulting in damage or injury.

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Superconductor: Now, you know that is simply not true. It takes two to tango, and it's not always the one's who are "speculating" that are to blame. I've seen people get into shouting matches here because their words were taken out of context. I will always respect another person's opinions and I take everything into consideration. That is only fair.

zenarose said:

The name of this thread is:

Prince's Death: Information & THEORIES; Pills Seized From Paisley Park contained illicit fentanyl

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Full Definition of theory plural

theories

1. 1 : the analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another

2. 2 : abstract thought : speculation

3. 3 : the general or abstract principles of a body of fact, a science, or an art <music theory>

4. 4a : a belief, policy, or procedure proposed or followed as the basis of action <her method is based on the theory that all children want to learn>b : an ideal or hypothetical set of facts, principles, or circumstances —often used in the phrase in theory <in theory, we have always advocated freedom for all>

5. 5 : a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena <the wave theory of light>

6. 6a : a hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigationb : an unproved assumption : conjecturec : a body of theorems presenting a concise systematic view of a subject <theory of equations>

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Yes! That's what I keep trying to tell people here.

Dibblekins said:

I was going to 'defend myself' against accusations of attacking someone personally on here - but then I remembered being criticised for doing so earlier (by the same poster) so I'm not going to bother.
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Thank you Zena for providing some useful reminders as to the dictionary definitions of the thread-title's terminology. Even if I (or others) were 'speculating' (something I dispute in regards to my most recent contribution) that action would indeed seem to be covered by the nouns used, ie 'information' and 'theories' - so I'd argue that the complainants don't really have a leg to stand on.

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Of course, they could start their own thread where only categorically confirmed FACTS are allowed - no personal opinion, no recounting of unverifiable subjective emotion or thought, no anecdote, nothing that can be remotely disputed, and where there can be absolutely no scope for argument (or even meaningful discussion). It would be a short thread but at least it would keep them happy.
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oliviacamron said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Yea, and don't forget the childish cartoons & animations & having Prince's Urn as his avatar, but okay, whateva!!

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Different stroke for different folks

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phaty choose that avatar just to get a reaction, and make some people angry.

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Yes, he/she craves attention. Also, he/she upset someone in the Prince Cremation thread a while back by repeatedly posting the pic of P's urn, even though the person clearly said it upset her/him. Very disrespectful and inconsiderate, to say the least. Now, there is a term for people like that, but I'm not saying it..... Using that pic as an avatar says a lot about the person.

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oliviacamron said:

PennyPurple said:

Sad

SALT LAKE CITY – Toxicology tests confirm two 13-year-old boys in the Utah ski-resort town of Park City overdosed on a new synthetic drug that is available online and was also found at the estate of entertainer Prince after he died, police said Thursday.

Ryan Ainsworth and Grant Seaver died of acute intoxication of a drug called U-47700, sometimes known as "pink," Park City Police Chief Wade Carpenter said in a statement, citing results from the Utah Office of the Medical Examiner.

It's among a new generation of opioid drugs being synthesized in labs overseas and is too new as a recreational drug to be listed as illegal.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2016/11/03/tests-confirm-utah-teens-overdosed-on-new-synthetic-drug.html

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That is just terrible. Unfortunately, this happens more than we know!

cloveringold85 said:

PennyPurple said:

Hubby has had several failed spinal surgeries that failed and he also has had decompression surgery and a metal plate in the back of his head.

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PennyPurple: I'm so sorry about what both you and your husband are going through. My husband had to have emergency surgery last year and had to have his gall bladder removed. He was in the hospital for a week. I was afraid I might lose him. Thank God he is okay now, but nothing like what you are going through!

Awe, that's sweet Clovering, thank you!

He has a rare spinal cord disease that we've been dealing with for about 14 years now. He was a firefighter and it ended his career.

laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

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All I can say here is that some people need to chillax!! Not you, Dibbs or PurpleD, but just saying -- some people here don't have the ability to keep an open mind about things and act as though we are sitting in a Court of Law, which we are not. Geeze, chillax people! It's a conversation, not the Spanish Inquisition!!

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-/ There are people on this board who have an agenda. I don't know if they are with the media, attorneys, or 12 year old kids who have nothing else to do with there time. But the should realize this case is not open and shut. The discussion is not going to stop until the case is closed.

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I agree, Laura. I wouldn't be suprised if TMZ has people trolling this board.

PennyPurple said:

cloveringold85 said:

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PennyPurple: I'm so sorry about what both you and your husband are going through. My husband had to have emergency surgery last year and had to have his gall bladder removed. He was in the hospital for a week. I was afraid I might lose him. Thank God he is okay now, but nothing like what you are going through!

Awe, that's sweet Clovering, thank you!

He has a rare spinal cord disease that we've been dealing with for about 14 years now. He was a firefighter and it ended his career.

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I'm so sorry. I applaud your Husband for his service to his community.

Superconductor said:

Dibblekins said:

Superconductor said:

Dibblekins said:

"…Over the months, there has been some discussion around the accuracy of the ME's report on the cause of Prince's death…"

"…In light of that, I thought you might all be interested in the following:…"

"…This week I attended a two day public health conference. Admittedly, I am in the UK not the USA but nevertheless, one of the speakers was instrumental in the creation of the Death Certification Review Service…"

"…He told us that 48% of death certificates required some form of correction; 10% complete re-issue…"

"…I think those statistics are quite startling - and surely evidence of the fact that a good proportion of death certificates / reports may have errors and not be quite as accurate as one would like to imagine…"

"…It may yet transpire that categorically stating P's death to be a 'pure accident' was erroneous (no, I'm not making the case for murder, or suicide even, just that we may be mistaken in relying too heavily on that particular statement)…"

"…You are making a ton of generalisations here. And provide very little context or the original source. Firstly, UK is equal to US? No. Second, 48 percent of death certificates need some sort of correction. Do you mean every second death certificate in the UK has the wrong cause of death on it? Or is it that some other detail had a mistake? Or only some type of death certificates issued under certain circumstances? You are drawing a long bow here that Prince's death certificate might be wrong. So you are insinuating that he may have not have died of fentanyl overdose? But what then? Wasn't murder or suicide either you state. Ok what then? Where is your proof, even a shred of proof for anything you are spinning here. So we rely too heavily on the one and only official record? Why shouldn't we? What shall we do instead? Make stuff up? Oh I forgot we are in the thread where people make stuff up. Just one last question: do all deaths in the UK undergo an autopsy?…"

"…For heaven's sake - I just thought it was a snippet of information in which people might be interested! Do you really have to be so aggressive and downright rude? I'm not bloody well 'spinning anything'! I'm sharing something I found quite startling and of which I wasn't aware - simply as an interesting point of information which I thought others might find similarly fascinating!…"

"…Does everything on here have to be posted with a disclaimer about 'spinning' or agendas or anything else??? Or do MOST people have the intelligence just to read what's written and give people the benefit of the doubt, without imbuing it with their own unpleasant way of looking at things? To ME, this was startling statistic which might - or might not - have some bearing on our reading of other nation's death certificates. I made it PLAIN this was about the UK, and I have written down exactly what was shared at the conference…"

"…YOU might want to see that as 'spinning' or 'insinuating' - but, believe it or not, not all of us have such a devious mind. SOME of us don't have agendas, you know. SOME of us aren't that way inclined…"

"…As always, I have couched my post very carefully, explaining exactly what we MAY wish to consider, and what MAY transpire in the long run. I don't require 'proof' of anything because I am not making a CASE for anything (quite the opposite in fact). I am merely suggesting we MAY want to keep an open mind about all manner of issues, given this startling statistic which MAY or MAY NOT have a bearing on things…"

"…Now either be polite and civilised or move on. Good grief!…"

"…Why so defensive? I simply asked some valid questions in relation to the statement you posted. I am trying to understand why this is relevant. If you don't explain the context of your statement around the 48 per cent of UK death certificates had some sort of error, the conclusion can be drawn that you are putting Prince's Death certificate in doubt. But Prince's body had an autopsy. It is a very high profile case. These 48 per cent with mistakes, are these mistakes around cause of death or minor things like name or date wrong? Do these 48 per cent refer to death certificates following an autopsy? You get my drift? . PS. you haven't couched your statement that carefully. You concluded your post by speculating that Prince's accidental death may turn out not to have been "purely accidental". That is clearly putting in doubt the official death certificate or ME excerpt that is public. And given this thread is full of wild speculation, you added another one, that the death certificate might turn out to be wrong. Just like that without any evidence other than connecting this 48 per cent number which you haven't explained what it refers to with Prince's death…"

It's remarkably disingenuous to say "discussion around the accuracy of the ME's report on the cause of Prince's death" in the same breath as "I just thought it was a snippet of information in which people might be interested!"

Be honest. At least with yourself. It was posted to either (1) fuel more discussion around specious, so-called "theories". Or (2) to establish airs and graces as an internet authority with "two day public health conference" credentials.

It is indeed "Spinning", for the simple fact that this thread — {plus the four previously-deleted ones} — has been "Spinning" around in circles on that very same axis of specious "theories" since Day 1.

"Spinning" is what makes merry-go-rounds such a fun ride for the entire family.

P.S. — For what it's worth, I say all this with the politest of smiles on my face — without the least bit of agression — and with the only "agenda" that I am aware of, being to express my opinion.

cloveringold85 said:

oliviacamron said:

cloveringold85 said: phaty choose that avatar just to get a reaction, and make some people angry.

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Yes, he/she craves attention. Also, he/she upset someone in the Prince Cremation thread a while back by repeatedly posting the pic of P's urn, even though the person clearly said it upset her/him. Very disrespectful and inconsiderate, to say the least. Now, there is a term for people like that, but I'm not saying it..... Using that pic as an avatar says a lot about the person.

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Yeah and that person was the founder of the org. Then Fat---- made it his avatar. Nice.

laurarichardson said:

Nooriginalusername said:

I have NEVER once promoted the use of pain meds, nor have I ignored the damages that they do to people. NEVER once have I ignored the odd things around Prince's death. You clearly have great insecurities, as you are quick to make false accusations, dismiss someone as a "troll" or outright curse them out if they don't join in your hypothesis. What I do have issue with is:

!. People-such as yourself- who have cruelly slandered the name and reputation of other persons by accusing them of murder, without any factual evidence.

2. People-such as yourself- who won't even consider anyone else as legit. unless they agree with you.

3. People-such as yourself- who feel the need to curse at other members of this board and treat others with blatent disrespect, trying to turn other posters against them and creating school yard drama, yet become hyperdefensive when anyone questions your thoughts or asks for evidence. I note you rare provide where you get your information when asked.

4. People -such as yourself-who throw out medical information as fact because they have "talked" to someone or read it and believe that makes them more knowledgable than someone who actually is an educated and licensed professional.

You can dance your happy dance because this is quite possibly the last post or visit I will make to this site. For the life of me, I can't understand how the moderators would even allow the nonsense that goes on here to continue if they hope this would be a respected and legitimate site. Never in my wildest imagination would I have thought that a community of persons who claim to be fans of Prince would come to a site and be so nasty and disrespectful of one another and towards him, his family members and his friends. Clearly few here are interested in intellegent discourse about the Artist, his accomplishments or his music- nor finding the truth about what happened, it's just a bunch of people trying to prove they're right through what ever means they can find somewhere on the web. Good luck eating each other alive.

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“have NEVER once promoted the use of pain meds, nor have I ignored the damages that they do to people. NEVER once have I ignored the odd things around Prince's death. You clearly have great insecurities, as you are quick to make false accusations, dismiss someone as a "troll" or outright curse them out if they don't join in your hypothesis. What I do have issue with is:”

You said that the statistical data that I was speaking of concerning the long term effects of pain meds could have been manipulated. I asked you what would anyone have to gain from doing such a thing. Of course you did not answer my question and you seem to promoting the use of pain pills and ignoring the data concerning their harmful and deadly long term effects. You certainly did not do much to acknowledge they exist.

!. People-such as yourself- who have cruelly slandered the name and reputation of other persons by accusing them of murder, without any factual evidence.

I have never used in anyone’s name in connection with P’s murder. I feel the police will take care of that so stop lying.

2. People-such as yourself- who won't even consider anyone else as legit. unless they agree with you.

Not true I actually asked you if you were a medical doctor. With no response from you and I have corresponded with people who are medical professionals on this board and out in the real world. So stop lying.

3. People-such as yourself- who feel the need to curse at other members of this board and treat others with blatent disrespect, trying to turn other posters against them and creating school yard drama, yet become hyperdefensive when anyone questions your thoughts or asks for evidence. I note you rare provide where you get your information when asked.

I have posted links on the topic of the long term effects of pain pill use months ago and the information is easy to find and has been discussed many times on this topic alone. I also post quiet a few other items about Prince on this board a few times a week. Using the search engine you can find things on this board going back to the early 2000’s. I have found over the years that most people don’t read half the stuff on here and then get upset because I don’t go back and find the links or data for them. Time for people to get off their lazy busy and use the many search engines of the internet and this board to find the information. Many associates are speaking on podcast and message boards and not the mainstream media take the time to listen to what they have to say. Go back and look at the first articles the day Prince died and see how so many media outlets were saying terminal illness. I am not going to go back and repost for you.

It is not disrespectable for me to defend myself or just call out the trolls.

4. People -such as yourself-who throw out medical information as fact because they have "talked" to someone or read it and believe that makes them more knowledgable than someone who actually is an educated and licensed professional.

I asked you if you were a medical doctor. Are you? Are you more knowledgeable than anyone else on this board? We do not know your background and plenty of other medical professionals have been shoot down so why should you be any different.

You can dance your happy dance because this is quite possibly the last post or visit I will make to this site. For the life of me, I can't understand how the moderators would even allow the nonsense that goes on here to continue if they hope this would be a respected and legitimate site. Never in my wildest imagination would I have thought that a community of persons who claim to be fans of Prince would come to a site and be so nasty and disrespectful of one another and towards him, his family members and his friends. Clearly few here are interested in intellegent discourse about the Artist, his accomplishments or his music- nor finding the truth about what happened, it's just a bunch of people trying to prove they're right through what ever means they can find somewhere on the web. Good luck eating each other alive.

No happy dance. Plenty of other topics on this board about Prince that are fun and interesting. You decided to come into the most difficult topic on the board when people are still grieving and looking for answers and expected to find happy land. We want to know the truth about what has really happened or we would not be discussing it. We would be sticking our heads in the ground and pretending everything is fine and dandy. We are doing what we should be doing in this forum.

Hang out you may learn something.

Thank you for the kind invitation Claire Elisabeth but you can find another target since you so desperately need one to support your deflated ego.

Oh. My. Gosh. It's baaaaccckkkk! May I be the first to say Thank you. Thank you very much!

This warrants busting out, and I use these emoticons very sparingly, the dancing banana....

No will, sure, but how was the situation wr.t. their relatives, the inheritance, etc?

Was it simple and clear-cut?

I understand the point behind your question, udo. But "I don't know" is all I myself can tell you about the individual situations. More detail can be read by clicking Launch Gallery at the top of that page.

The majority of those on that list, I didn't even know died intestate, until I first read that article back in May. I mean, Abraham Lincoln? Who knew?

The message that I hope people take-away from that list, is that Prince dying without a will does not automatically mean that "something suspicous" is behind it.

To me anyway, that list shows not having a will, simply means that Prince probably procrastinated on his estate management affairs, the same way that the majority of us other human beings do.

The ironic thing is — the same people who jump to the conclusion that, "Prince did not have a will, so he must have been murdered…" — the odds are that they themselves don't have a will either.

Neither does Snoop Dog…

[Edited 11/8/16 5:41am]

phatphuk said:

Oh, that Snoop Dogg! Can you imagine what he would be like if he didn't smoke some ganja every now and then? Well, I guess in his case, it's more like 24/7!

Maybe Prince had some of those same thoughts?