. Okay, thanks for explaining all of that. I appreciate all the knowledge you have. . I just have a difficult time with them "drilling" open his vault so quickly like that, and no one had the "code" or "key" to open it? Not even Tyka? . Well, Tyka did say "they planned for 2-years", but I'm not sure Prince really left everything in her hands. . Well, whatever Bremer does or Koppleman and McMillian does with P's music, I just hope they will take care of things, as Prince would have wanted, that's all I'm saying.
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. Yep!! .
Sooooo did Tyka appear back in Princes life in 2014? | |
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No, I don't think so. It was earlier than that. Prince spoke affectionately -- briefly but affectionately --of her in an interview with Tavis Smiley at least 6 or 7 years ago, if not earlier. | |
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The optimist in me is hoping that Prince is alive (he is in witness protection or he faked his death) The realist thinks he had a battle with prescription meds and things just went tragically awry. The pessimist feels that at worst he was murdered by someone for financial gain and at best was a victim of criminal negligence.
What's frustrating is that six months later all of the above theories (even the wild ones) are still possible until proven otherwise.
Since the tribute concerts start tomorrow I am going to take a break from speculating on his death. Instead I am going to spend a few days celebrating the greatest rock star of all time. | |
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Tyka said that Prince took her to rehab shortly after their mom passed away. She said he came to the rehab everyday for support and he started to be around town more after their parents passed. So they became close in the last 15 years. This is another reason I don't think he meant he was done like he was just going to go somewhere and O.D. He was in a outpatient rehab and she had been in rehab herself so they would have helped each other out.
I think he was really sick
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. Yea, seems like they became closer after the loss of their parents and her rehab ordeal. Things change when you get older. Some siblings just drift apart, and some get closer. Funny thing, huh?
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You're right. Opiate dependency could make anyone sick with a range of symptoms covering everything Prince was said to be suffering. Which over a long period of time, with increasing severity, could also make someone suicidal. Because it's not just the physical symptoms that would be a problem, but the emotional toll as well.
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fortuneandserendipity said:
You're right. Opiate dependency could make anyone sick with a range of symptoms covering everything Prince was said to be suffering. Which over a long period of time, with increasing severity, could also make someone suicidal. Because it's not just the physical symptoms that would be a problem, but the emotional toll as well.
Don't throw away that tin foil hat idea just yet.... I think the later is quite possible. Given what we have been told seems probable. | |
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The media reported that Tyka selected Bremer because P had done business with them. It was not
stated if that was recent or in the past. The time frame was not confirmed. Yes, it was I remember reading that he did business with them for 30 years. In addition they are a wealth management firm. | |
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and after all these pls we know from what cause gone our PR IN CE ? ABOUT .... IS SO DIFFICULT FOR THE RESULT ? if u know more about his loss ..... thanks and i'm sorry ..... | |
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I am taking anything that Tyka say's with a grain of salt. She claims that they planned for "2-years". Why then did they have to "drill" open the VAULT? Prince did not give her the code or key to the VAULT? Too many conflicting stories & it just doesn't add up. Bremer is probably telling the family to keep quiet. Do you hear about people today dying from AIDS? People live a long time with the AIDS virus, under treatment & meds. Makes no sense that Prince would stop taking medication for his "disease" (if he had one), yet pop illegal "Fentanyl" pills? Prince wasn't stupid. The most wonderful, brilliant Icon of our time......gone!! . [Edited 10/13/16 12:26pm] "With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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cloveringold85 said: I am taking anything that Tyka say's with a grain of salt. She claims that they planned for "2-years". Why then did they have to "drill" open the VAULT? Prince did not give her the code or key to the VAULT? Too many conflicting stories & it just doesn't add up. Bremer is probably telling the family to keep quiet. Do you hear about people today dying from AIDS? People live a long time with the AIDS virus, under treatment & meds. Makes no sense that Prince would stop taking medication for his "disease" (if he had one), yet pop illegal "Fentanyl" pills? Prince wasn't stupid. The most wonderful, brilliant Icon of our time.....gone!! . [Edited 10/13/16 12:26pm] Agree Once again just more info that does not add up... | |
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You need to go back and watch the interview again she did not say she planned anything she said she greived and was crushed nothing about planning anything.
Even if she wanted to plan something while Prince was alive their would be nothing she could do unless she had him comitted and found to be incompetent to handle his affairs.
If she had to keys to the vault she would have to hand them over to the administrator since he had no will. Legally you cannot come in and take people's things when they have no will.
Why are you back on the AIDS story?
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. Perhaps I should watch the video again. Maybe she did not say they "planned", but she did say "It was not hard at all. I knew 2-years ago.".......don't quote me on that, but her words were along those lines. . I just feel that if Prince was getting ready to turn PP into a musem, he would have left very SPECIFIC instructions on the VAULT and other "hidden" rooms that held video tapes/music, which was very "important" and "precious" to him. . When asked about a "Will", she seemed to know nothing about it. I would think that Prince would have "specifically" told her about those things. Just saying. . I mentioned AIDS again, because people keep going back to that subject, and I was just trying to prove a point that it would make no sense if he "allegedly" stopped taking his "meds" (AIDS), yet he would take illegal "Fentanyl" pills that ended his life? So, the story about the JW saying that Prince stopped his "meds", and used his "faith" to heal himself (which came from a tabloid), is absurd. .
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. Perhaps I should watch the video again. Maybe she did not say they "planned", but she did say "It was not hard at all. I knew 2-years ago.".....don't quote me on that, but her words were along those lines. . I just feel that if Prince was getting ready to turn PP into a musem, he would have left very SPECIFIC instructions on the VAULT and other "hidden" rooms that held video tapes/music, which was very "important" and "precious" to him. . When asked about a "Will", she seemed to know nothing about it. I would think that Prince would have "specifically" told her about those things. Just saying. . I mentioned AIDS again, because people keep going back to that subject, and I was just trying to prove a point that it would make no sense if he "allegedly" stopped taking his "meds" (AIDS), yet he would take illegal "Fentanyl" pills that ended his life? So, the story about the JW saying that Prince stopped his "meds", and used his "faith" to heal himself (which came from a tabloid), is absurd. .
Agree ... If Tyka knew anything was about to happen she at least would have known how to get in the vault...and would not seem clueless re a will or not. Does she even know what Bremer took from the vault? | |
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I see you. | |
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I sure hope Chaka does well in her sobriety. I have always liked her. | |
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Good enough. | |
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I never thought Prince was terminal
and There is no proof of P and drugs until the final 24 hrs before his death. Just noticed a mention of Switzerland in Chakas post... [Edited 10/13/16 22:09pm] | |
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What post is this?
Didn't KJ just come back from holidaying in Switzerland? | |
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I think some posts are missing. There was a post about Chaka in rehab and now it's gone. | |
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I hate to say this, but maybe Prince did not trust the combination to the vault to his family. I would assume that his sister could walk into PP at will. She could bring people with her. They could go to the vault without notice since the security staff was downsized. Just saying ... Trust issues die hard. | |
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According to David Hampton the engineer there are no hidden rooms in Paisley he said he built the screening room and just put a sliding door in front of it. Everybody knew about the screening room. How would know about will if one does not exsist your will has to be with an attorney and filled with a court. I don't see anyone bringing up AIDS anymore. | |
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Maybe his family was not in that aspect of his business. In addtion, Alan Leeds said tapes had been stolen before by staff so keeping the combonation to himself was smart. We have only seen trickles of boots over the last few years. | |
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. Good point, Sasha!! Prince did not give the combination to his VAULT, because of trust issues!! . Not even to his sister, Tyka . Therefore, it is my belief that Prince was not ready to leave us.
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It would not matter if she had the keys to the door of the vault. He did not have a will so you cannot go in and take stuff. It has to go throught the courts. | |
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. Someone here posted something about another "room" that was found in PP recently. If that person happens to read this post, can you please share this info with us again? Thanks! . I just don't believe that Prince has AIDS or any other terminal illness. The National Enquirer ran the AIDS story again, right after Tyka spoke with ET & Today Show. . He died from taking "counterfeit Fentanyl" and other deadly drugs. .
[Edited 10/14/16 11:22am] "With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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They had to drill the vault cause Prince didn't expect to die, so he did not hand the keys to no one.
Tyka's crushed comment could mean that Prince told her he was in too much pain to continue performing and with his addiction to painkillers being a big issue as well he was invisioning not being able to perform in the very near future. That would be enough to crush her, especially if the decision to stop performing was having a big impact on Prince and he himself was feeling crushed. That would explain the Piano and a Microphone, the planning for PP to be turned into a museum, the memories book, the opening up to fans, the more relaxed look (which some also understood as him being less groomed), the lack of a will (he didn't expect to die), and so on. [Edited 10/14/16 11:52am] | |
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cloveringold85 said:
. Someone here posted something about another "room" that was found in PP recently. If that person happens to read this post, can you please share this info with us again? Thanks! . I just don't believe that Prince has AIDS or any other terminal illness. The National Enquirer ran the AIDS story again, right after Tyka spoke with ET & Today Show. . He died from taking "counterfeit Fentanyl" and other deadly drugs. .
[Edited 10/14/16 11:22am] -- There is a podcast with Dave the engineer who is saying their are no secret rooms. I will find the link and post. | |
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