I find that hard to believe since John appears to have shut all his kids out but Prince. Prince was executor of John's will so he had no choice but to enforce it. It's clear to me, if P. were all too concerned about his heirs, he would have filed a will. Besides, this isn't about Duane-its about Duane's family members. | |
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. Exactly. Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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I took a step back for a moment to think about the relationships of all the siblings. With the exception of the three Vivian Nelson siblings, there are so many years between them , it would have been hard to have a close relationship with their other half siblings. They were all raised in different homes. John and Vivian divorced when their kids were teens. Did he excercise his visitation rights to the kids? He marries Mattie and has Prince and Tyka but divorces and leaves when they were 10 and 8 respectively. I'm not sure where Alfred resided, possibly with his grandparents in Kansas City. Omar, born in 1970 when Tyka was 10 and Prince 12. Soon Prince would be living with Andre and his mom until he finishes high school. This must be very emotional for them as they remember their own years growing up and the disruption that divorce brought to their own lives.
Then I think about the pain Brianna and VN must feel, regarding this arguing because she is related to Norrine, Sharon and John R since they have the same mother as Duane. My point is as the siblings reflect on their own relationships or lack of one, with their own fathers and each other, it may be the reason they are not accepting Duane and his descendants. It is hard to fathom John having a parent child relationship with Duane not his blood son, when he may have not had a meaningful parent child relationship with his very own blood children once he left their mothers'. [Edited 10/23/16 16:39pm] | |
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Also , I cannot imagine the siblings not making a will after all the craziness they have experienced with Prince's estate. I wonder if Norrine or Sharon will include their nieces, Brianna and VN? I believe John R has a daughter. I'm just thinking out loud. | |
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I hope they learn something from this and they all make will. I guess the nieces will get cut in or cut out depending on how the judge rules. At this point they should probaly just give them some sort of settlement. | |
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Bye Rodney. | |
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Hopefully this will be the last, but I believe he will not stop. | |
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BYE......BYE FELICIA | |
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So close and yet so far away ... See ya! | |
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1. Future submissions by Mr. Dixon shall be deemed frivolous and shall not be addressed by the Court. [Edited 10/24/16 12:37pm] | |
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"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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"I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015 | |
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Yay to Judge Eide for dismissed that fool. | |
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laurarichardson said:
As much as Prince talked about not having contracts he had them. We know he had them back in the WB days and he had to have them for employees to keep them from running their mouths.
My thinking is he may have done somethings on a handshake like the Musicology tour but keep in mind his ass was directly on the line if the tour bombed
He is not the only one introducting anything into the Probate. My guess is Breamer has all of these documents and Dixion got them from discovery. How would Breamer at this point not know about the LLC? How would the administer of the estate not know about NPG records and publishing Some portion of it or maybe all of it is a part of the estate depending on how it was structured. Dixion is not providing any information that was not known by the probate court about Prince's publishing.
He has no claim because he has no written contract and copyrights on any of the music. What was in effect from the 94 suit because Prince continued on with his carreer with no involvment of Mr. Dixion? Did the court in 94 award Mr. Dixion anything in that case? Why is the judge in this case kicking out Mr. Dixion's claims if he won something in the 94 case. Check out his website he is fucking crazy.
The next thing you know the woman that say she was spirtually married to Prince since 1980 and is owed 3 milllion should get her share as well because she has no marriage certificate but her word is good enough. Our judicial system does not go on people's recollections. You have to have written proof. If you want to get paid off of songs then you need to own the copyright on some portion of the copyrighted material or have proof it was stolen from you. What proof does Rodney have beyond his statements which seem to have changed a few times since 1994? In addtion, if some asshat like this guy gets any of P's music what do you think will happen to the music. [Edited 10/21/16 6:13am] Something doesn't smell right in this preventing Dixon from further filings, The Judge previously dismissed his claim on the basis of time expired Copyright ...but I'm reading Mr. Dixon 66 page memorandum which breaks down copyright contract Law, and proves there is no statute of limitation on Copyright...he was sent a one dollar consideration by Prince legal team thus Showing an acknowledgment of an agreement 2 months after he sued him in 94. No where on the Judge's order does it refer to the error of dismissing him out Of probate.. dealing with copyright expiration, as he stated as the reason before for dismissal... nor does the dollar that Prince sent to Mr. Dixon was mentioned As a point of discovery... that's very suspicious, I think we should be looking at More than Dixon as shady. I don't think Bremer is performing according to the contract From Prince That Rodney introduced into these procedings. The Court???? Hmmmmm | |
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Dixion had no proof that the dollar came from Prince and even if it did he has no copyright on any of the songs. No legal document stating that he should be put in charge of Prince' s estate. He has nothing. What does the statute of limitations on copyrights have to do with anything if you do not own the copyrights in the first place. | |
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Then I guess Mr. Dixon needs to appeal the Judge's Decision to a higher court and attempt to convince them that this nonsense claim is legit, eh?
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laurarichardson said:
Dixion had no proof that the dollar came from Prince and even if it did he has no copyright on any of the songs. No legal document stating that he should be put in charge of Prince' s estate. He has nothing. What does the statute of limitations on copyrights have to do with anything if you do not own the copyrights in the first place. Good point...however There is proof the dollar came from Prince, his attorney Jerry Edelstine had it sent to Dixon''s Rep...it's all in the exibits. ..aren't you reading the material? I did. Can't get around that dollar...not from Law standpoint. Unless you ignore it..which it appear''s that the court did. Get rid of Dixon by any means necsasary .😂 | |
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udo said:
. Exactly. Say it again. .this time louder. LOl | |
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lorenzolee said: laurarichardson said:
Dixion had no proof that the dollar came from Prince and even if it did he has no copyright on any of the songs. No legal document stating that he should be put in charge of Prince' s estate. He has nothing. What does the statute of limitations on copyrights have to do with anything if you do not own the copyrights in the first place. Good point...however There is proof the dollar came from Prince, his attorney Jerry Edelstine had it sent to Dixon''s Rep...it's all in the exibits. ..aren't you reading the material? I did. Can't get around that dollar...not from Law standpoint. Unless you ignore it..which it appear''s that the court did. Get rid of Dixon by any means necsasary .😂 - We don't know that Edelstine was representing Prince at that time or if at all. That dollar means nothing without Dixion's name being on the copyrights. I could sell my neighbor my house for a 1.00 if I don't draw up a real estate contract and have the deed transferred to my neighbors name They don't own my house. Breamer is working on behalf of the family not the people making claims. The court is overseeing to prevent fraud. Everybody is doing their jobs. | |
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The Judge has extended the appointment of Bremer as Special Administrator through January 2, 2017. This is not unusual. | |
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laurarichardson said: lorenzolee said: Good point...however There is proof the dollar came from Prince, his attorney Jerry Edelstine had it sent to Dixon''s Rep...it's all in the exibits. ..aren't you reading the material? I did. Can't get around that dollar...not from Law standpoint. Unless you ignore it..which it appear''s that the court did. Get rid of Dixon by any means necsasary .😂 - We don't know that Edelstine was representing Prince at that time or if at all. That dollar means nothing without Dixion's name being on the copyrights. I could sell my neighbor my house for a 1.00 if I don't draw up a real estate contract and have the deed transferred to my neighbors name They don't own my house. Breamer is working on behalf of the family not the people making claims. The court is overseeing to prevent fraud. Everybody is doing their jobs. The Dollar came from Edelstein, prince attorney of record at that time... the proof is in the Exhibits, not speculating ... in copyright law, you don't need a signature, just a contract, and a Dollar. When you know copyright law, you'll know copyright law..it will shine a different light , im not pro or con, it's just the Law... and in this case, it's overlooked. | |
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lorenzolee said: laurarichardson said: - We don't know that Edelstine was representing Prince at that time or if at all. That dollar means nothing without Dixion's name being on the copyrights. I could sell my neighbor my house for a 1.00 if I don't draw up a real estate contract and have the deed transferred to my neighbors name They don't own my house. Breamer is working on behalf of the family not the people making claims. The court is overseeing to prevent fraud. Everybody is doing their jobs. The Dollar came from Edelstein, prince attorney of record at that time... the proof is in the Exhibits, not speculating ... in copyright law, you don't need a signature, just a contract, and a Dollar. When you know copyright law, you'll know copyright law..it will shine a different light , im not pro or con, it's just the Law... and in this case, it's overlooked. -- The dollar does not matter. Mr. Dixion's name is not listed as a copyright holder on those songs. He does not own those songs if he is not listed as a writer or co-author. Why take a dollar and not have your named placed as a copyright holder. Why do you think the court is throwing out his claim? Also why would Prince sell anything to anyone for a dollar? | |
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Everyone understands that Dixon does not have evidence or a valid claim. I would not be surprised if lorenzolee is Dixon. Same arguement here as in the courts. Dixon has been removed and that is good. Hopefully the next big hurdle of Duane and his offspring will be resolved, though I have a feeling either way, it will be appealed. But it will be nice to resolve this quickly, but correctly, to limit the strain on the estate finances. | |
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nelcp777 said:
Everyone understands that Dixon does not have evidence or a valid claim. I would not be surprised if lorenzolee is Dixon. Same arguement here as in the courts. Dixon has been removed and that is good. Hopefully the next big hurdle of Duane and his offspring will be resolved, though I have a feeling either way, it will be appealed. But it will be nice to resolve this quickly, but correctly, to limit the strain on the estate finances. Did I hear Lorenzolee is Dixon? Wow, I've heard it all now, I'm not Dixon , maybe ur Dixon ? I'm just a paralegal who understands the law, and What's proper justice ... what I hear you alleging is emotional Not exactly Legal. Truth is truth, I was opposed to Dixon's arguments like Everyone else , until I saw his evidence filed. If it's not forged, then it seems he has a valid Contract. My opinion ... sorry | |
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What happens if Mr. Dixon continuex to submit frivolous claims to the court ?? What can the judge impose to truly make him stop? Or will they simply move on and ignore anything from him moving forward?? | |
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I was trying to lighten the mood. I do not have any legal knowledge. We are all entitled to our opinions. There is no need to apologize for yours. We disagree on the subject, nothing wrong with that.
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nelcp777 said:
I was trying to lighten the mood. I do not have any legal knowledge. We are all entitled to our opinions. There is no need to apologize for yours. We disagree on the subject, nothing wrong with that.
Awww no offence taken...we all are just participating on the Org. All the opinions are interesting , I'm assuming it doesn't matter at the end of the day what any of our opinions are. As far as the dixon is concerned..I like to give credit, where it's due, And not just pile on with everyone else.. he seems like a brilliant guy , Who's fighting for what he believes, wrong or right, We should respect the fact that although he's not an attorney He's lasted in this fight since April, and I wouldn't be Surprised if he continues to fight.. so I wouldn't be Celebrating his claim dismissal Pre maturely . But then again, let's enjoy the moment . Lol | |
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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
Then I guess Mr. Dixon needs to appeal the Judge's Decision to a higher court and attempt to convince them that this nonsense claim is legit, eh?
That's Correct, good suggestion | |
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Judge Eide just ruled on Brianna and VN. Denied. They are excluded as heirs. Interestingly, he is allowed Corey Simmons more time before excluding him, to alllow him to "provide the Court primafacie evidence supporting his claim Via a theory of equitable adoption that John L. Nelson intended to adopt Duane Nelson, Sr."
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laurarichardson said: lorenzolee said: The Dollar came from Edelstein, prince attorney of record at that time... the proof is in the Exhibits, not speculating ... in copyright law, you don't need a signature, just a contract, and a Dollar. When you know copyright law, you'll know copyright law..it will shine a different light , im not pro or con, it's just the Law... and in this case, it's overlooked. -- The dollar does not matter. Mr. Dixion's name is not listed as a copyright holder on those songs. He does not own those songs if he is not listed as a writer or co-author. Why take a dollar and not have your named placed as a copyright holder. Why do you think the court is throwing out his claim? Also why would Prince sell anything to anyone for a dollar? I don't think the idea for the dollar was to sell dixon anything, The court filings state that Prince sent the Dollar as an acknowledgment of A depth owed... nobody sends a dollar to a guy who's suing them, unless It's an understanding reached between the two sources , of some sort. No matter how we speculate, the dollar can't be ignored. Not in copyright contract Law. Btw.. there is a contract in the exhibits , just not a signature From Prince...only a dollar from prince ... what else would that mean? Let's hear from some of the Attorneys on the Org. | |
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