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Reply #510 posted 10/28/16 5:58pm

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teach49 said:

laurarichardson said:

Okay I am confused if they took the test they either passed or failed. Not much for the judge to rule on or think about.

I didn't think Estabon was ever tested so he's not part of the 7, right? I have not poured over the documents, but I have been following this thread a little. It seems like there might been one of the 7 whose name has not leaked out. Or it seems that way to me sometimes...

confused

Estabon wasnt tested.

There are more than 7

[Edited 10/28/16 17:58pm]

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Reply #511 posted 10/28/16 8:47pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

teach49 said:

I didn't think Estabon was ever tested so he's not part of the 7, right? I have not poured over the documents, but I have been following this thread a little. It seems like there might been one of the 7 whose name has not leaked out. Or it seems that way to me sometimes...

confused

Estabon wasnt tested.

There are more than 7

[Edited 10/28/16 17:58pm]

Oh, yes, I know there are more than 7 who did DNA testing, but there are 7 sealed files, right (I assume those claiming to be children)? Was Estabon part of those? For some reason I thought he wasn't one of the sealed files, but I'll admit I've gotten confused. It seems like y'all have accounted for most of the people whose files are sealed because of accidental postings from the courthouse, leaks, or the potential child coming forward on his own (Carl, Anthony). But, it strikes me that we're not sure who one of them is. I hope this makes sense.

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Reply #512 posted 10/29/16 6:20am

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teach49 said:



ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:




teach49 said:



I didn't think Estabon was ever tested so he's not part of the 7, right? I have not poured over the documents, but I have been following this thread a little. It seems like there might been one of the 7 whose name has not leaked out. Or it seems that way to me sometimes...



confused



Estabon wasnt tested.


There are more than 7


[Edited 10/28/16 17:58pm]



Oh, yes, I know there are more than 7 who did DNA testing, but there are 7 sealed files, right (I assume those claiming to be children)? Was Estabon part of those? For some reason I thought he wasn't one of the sealed files, but I'll admit I've gotten confused. It seems like y'all have accounted for most of the people whose files are sealed because of accidental postings from the courthouse, leaks, or the potential child coming forward on his own (Carl, Anthony). But, it strikes me that we're not sure who one of them is. I hope this makes sense.


--Esatbon did not get a test that much I do remember.
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Reply #513 posted 10/29/16 4:33pm

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lorenzolee said:

laurarichardson said:
- We don't know that Edelstine was representing Prince at that time or if at all. That dollar means nothing without Dixion's name being on the copyrights. I could sell my neighbor my house for a 1.00 if I don't draw up a real estate contract and have the deed transferred to my neighbors name They don't own my house. Breamer is working on behalf of the family not the people making claims. The court is overseeing to prevent fraud. Everybody is doing their jobs.
The Dollar came from Edelstein, prince attorney of record at that time... the proof is in the Exhibits, not speculating ... in copyright law, you don't need a signature, just a contract, and a Dollar. When you know copyright law, you'll know copyright law..it will shine a different light , im not pro or con, it's just the Law... and in this case, it's overlooked.

I think you need to dig further... the dollar originally came from Dixon and was then returned to him from what I understand in the filings.

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Reply #514 posted 10/29/16 4:46pm

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teach49 said:



ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:




teach49 said:



I didn't think Estabon was ever tested so he's not part of the 7, right? I have not poured over the documents, but I have been following this thread a little. It seems like there might been one of the 7 whose name has not leaked out. Or it seems that way to me sometimes...



confused



Estabon wasnt tested.


There are more than 7


[Edited 10/28/16 17:58pm]



Oh, yes, I know there are more than 7 who did DNA testing, but there are 7 sealed files, right (I assume those claiming to be children)? Was Estabon part of those? For some reason I thought he wasn't one of the sealed files, but I'll admit I've gotten confused. It seems like y'all have accounted for most of the people whose files are sealed because of accidental postings from the courthouse, leaks, or the potential child coming forward on his own (Carl, Anthony). But, it strikes me that we're not sure who one of them is. I hope this makes sense.



I believe u are right. I'd love to know the two names that Tyka gave to the judge behind closed doors when he asked them if there were other potential heirs / children. ALFRED, Princes brother said on Natl TV during interview that it's his understanding P has a son out there.
[Edited 10/29/16 16:46pm]
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Reply #515 posted 10/29/16 6:30pm

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Mkilpatrick74 said:

teach49 said:

Oh, yes, I know there are more than 7 who did DNA testing, but there are 7 sealed files, right (I assume those claiming to be children)? Was Estabon part of those? For some reason I thought he wasn't one of the sealed files, but I'll admit I've gotten confused. It seems like y'all have accounted for most of the people whose files are sealed because of accidental postings from the courthouse, leaks, or the potential child coming forward on his own (Carl, Anthony). But, it strikes me that we're not sure who one of them is. I hope this makes sense.

I believe u are right. I'd love to know the two names that Tyka gave to the judge behind closed doors when he asked them if there were other potential heirs / children. ALFRED, Princes brother said on Natl TV during interview that it's his understanding P has a son out there. [Edited 10/29/16 16:46pm]

I saw that interview, but I thought that Alfred was referring to Ahmir. I don't think that Alfred knew what was going on in Prince's life. I believe he also said that it had been about 15 yrs since he had talked to Prince. Later on, Prince's cousin, Charles, said that Prince did not have any kids except with Mayte, and the baby passed.

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Reply #516 posted 10/29/16 8:50pm

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He may have hoped.
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Reply #517 posted 10/29/16 9:53pm

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tmo1965 said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:

teach49 said: I believe u are right. I'd love to know the two names that Tyka gave to the judge behind closed doors when he asked them if there were other potential heirs / children. ALFRED, Princes brother said on Natl TV during interview that it's his understanding P has a son out there. [Edited 10/29/16 16:46pm]

I saw that interview, but I thought that Alfred was referring to Ahmir. I don't think that Alfred knew what was going on in Prince's life. I believe he also said that it had been about 15 yrs since he had talked to Prince. Later on, Prince's cousin, Charles, said that Prince did not have any kids except with Mayte, and the baby passed.

Yes, I remember that. I don't really think he had another child, but I am just a little confused about what we know and what we don't. Seems to me that we know who most of the alleged children are, except for possibly one. I'm just curious if I'm right about that or if I've missed one. Up the thread someone listed Estabon but I didn't think his was one of the seven, but I could certainly be wrong about that.

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Reply #518 posted 10/30/16 3:56pm

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teach49 said:



tmo1965 said:




Mkilpatrick74 said:


teach49 said: I believe u are right. I'd love to know the two names that Tyka gave to the judge behind closed doors when he asked them if there were other potential heirs / children. ALFRED, Princes brother said on Natl TV during interview that it's his understanding P has a son out there. [Edited 10/29/16 16:46pm]

I saw that interview, but I thought that Alfred was referring to Ahmir. I don't think that Alfred knew what was going on in Prince's life. I believe he also said that it had been about 15 yrs since he had talked to Prince. Later on, Prince's cousin, Charles, said that Prince did not have any kids except with Mayte, and the baby passed.



Yes, I remember that. I don't really think he had another child, but I am just a little confused about what we know and what we don't. Seems to me that we know who most of the alleged children are, except for possibly one. I'm just curious if I'm right about that or if I've missed one. Up the thread someone listed Estabon but I didn't think his was one of the seven, but I could certainly be wrong about that.


-Maybe Tyka gave the court names of people who think they are children. Or maybe the media made it up. We will find out soon enough.
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Reply #519 posted 10/30/16 8:45pm

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laurarichardson said:

teach49 said:

Yes, I remember that. I don't really think he had another child, but I am just a little confused about what we know and what we don't. Seems to me that we know who most of the alleged children are, except for possibly one. I'm just curious if I'm right about that or if I've missed one. Up the thread someone listed Estabon but I didn't think his was one of the seven, but I could certainly be wrong about that.

-Maybe Tyka gave the court names of people who think they are children. Or maybe the media made it up. We will find out soon enough.

You wont learn the names of these alleged child(ren) because they never filed claims in the Estate case because paternity was established years ago through DNA, and most likely a Trust was set up.

popcorn

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Reply #520 posted 10/30/16 9:24pm

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popcorn

[Edited 10/30/16 21:29pm]

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Reply #521 posted 10/31/16 2:39am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



laurarichardson said:


teach49 said:


Yes, I remember that. I don't really think he had another child, but I am just a little confused about what we know and what we don't. Seems to me that we know who most of the alleged children are, except for possibly one. I'm just curious if I'm right about that or if I've missed one. Up the thread someone listed Estabon but I didn't think his was one of the seven, but I could certainly be wrong about that.



-Maybe Tyka gave the court names of people who think they are children. Or maybe the media made it up. We will find out soon enough.

You wont learn the names of these alleged child(ren) because they never filed claims in the Estate case because paternity was established years ago through DNA, and most likely a Trust was set up.


popcorn


--- I always thought if he had kids and knew about them he would have set up s trust. I also think he may have set up other trust maybe for charities he supported. I still wonder what the work product was about.
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Reply #522 posted 10/31/16 4:07am

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I think Mayte was too young and naive to understand wills, trusts, end of life documents, etc. Manuela seemed like a sharp cookie, and I wonder what she knew about such things. What about a pre-nup or post-nup for either marriage? I simply cannot believe Prince had not made provisions for the causes he championed.

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Reply #523 posted 10/31/16 4:38am

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1Sasha said:

I think Mayte was too young and naive to understand wills, trusts, end of life documents, etc. Manuela seemed like a sharp cookie, and I wonder what she knew about such things. What about a pre-nup or post-nup for either marriage? I simply cannot believe Prince had not made provisions for the causes he championed.


-- Prince was not a moron. He had attorneys and one of them did a interview were he spoke quite highly concerning his intelligence. I don't believe things are in as much disarray that the media is making about the estate. I don't think that many in the media are smart enough to realize that other vehicles can be used instead of wills and that if Prince was ill this can have an effect on one's thinking.
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Reply #524 posted 10/31/16 11:46am

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New Postings 10/31/2016:

Disallowance of Marjorie Frazier

Disallowance of Sharon Hughes

Request Leave To Move For Reconsideration re: Corey Simmons

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Reply #525 posted 10/31/16 11:52am

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I would think that as much as Prince wanted children, if he'd had one, he would've have included that child in his life and would've played a bigger role in being a parent.

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Reply #526 posted 10/31/16 12:00pm

morningsong

Entire list of public filings for PRN & Mani's divorce (Star Tribune case attached.)

http://pa.courts.state.mn...fault.aspx

the case number (27-FA-06-3597)


Entire list of public filings for PRNs Probate Case

http://www.mncourts.gov/I...elson.aspx






So Corey's going to do genetic testing?

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Reply #527 posted 10/31/16 12:07pm

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morningsong said:

Entire list of public filings for PRN & Mani's divorce (Star Tribune case attached.)

http://pa.courts.state.mn...fault.aspx

the case number (27-FA-06-3597)


Entire list of public filings for PRNs Probate Case

http://www.mncourts.gov/I...elson.aspx






So Corey's going to do genetic testing?

I think that's what they are asking for, but not sure.

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Reply #528 posted 10/31/16 12:09pm

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morningsong said:

Entire list of public filings for PRN & Mani's divorce (Star Tribune case attached.)

http://pa.courts.state.mn...fault.aspx

the case number (27-FA-06-3597)


Entire list of public filings for PRNs Probate Case

http://www.mncourts.gov/I...elson.aspx






So Corey's going to do genetic testing?

That seems like a waste of time for him to do genetic testing, when they aren't even related...

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Reply #529 posted 10/31/16 12:10pm

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What's the deal with the Claire Nelson documents? She claims the court has the marriage certificate and Prince's will. I addition, she has signed and notarized that she accepts the apointment and role as represenative. I understand that this is her petition, but really? Pretty bold if there is no any corraborating documents.

Corey is requesting reconsideration for the DNA.

Carlin Q has to pay for his 2nd testing.

Tyka and the half-siblings have been ordered for DNA testing. Those who refuse could be motioned to take it.

The Ice Cream Castles claim for 1/2 penny is out.

The $3 billion dollar claim is out as well.

And payment has been authorized for Bremer and various law firms. In addition, future payment schedules have been identified by the Judge.

A great deal has been addressed recently.

I wonder how long the DNA testing and results will take. I did not see anything in regards to DNA testing for possible children. Perhaps that is a seperate order/condition.

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Reply #530 posted 10/31/16 12:28pm

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nelcp777 said:

What's the deal with the Claire Nelson documents? She claims the court has the marriage certificate and Prince's will. I addition, she has signed and notarized that she accepts the apointment and role as represenative. I understand that this is her petition, but really? Pretty bold if there is no any corraborating documents.

Corey is requesting reconsideration for the DNA.

Carlin Q has to pay for his 2nd testing.

Tyka and the half-siblings have been ordered for DNA testing. Those who refuse could be motioned to take it.

The Ice Cream Castles claim for 1/2 penny is out.

The $3 billion dollar claim is out as well.

And payment has been authorized for Bremer and various law firms. In addition, future payment schedules have been identified by the Judge.

A great deal has been addressed recently.

I wonder how long the DNA testing and results will take. I did not see anything in regards to DNA testing for possible children. Perhaps that is a seperate order/condition.

The CIA has Claire's documents. lol lol

In case you missed this previously, Claire intervened in Michael Jackson's estate also.

Claire is a wannabe wacky loser

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Reply #531 posted 10/31/16 12:34pm

zenarose

I found the answer to my question. lol

[Edited 10/31/16 12:58pm]

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Reply #532 posted 10/31/16 12:50pm

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nelcp777 said:

What's the deal with the Claire Nelson documents? She claims the court has the marriage certificate and Prince's will. I addition, she has signed and notarized that she accepts the apointment and role as represenative. I understand that this is her petition, but really? Pretty bold if there is no any corraborating documents.


Corey is requesting reconsideration for the DNA.


Carlin Q has to pay for his 2nd testing.


Tyka and the half-siblings have been ordered for DNA testing. Those who refuse could be motioned to take it.


The Ice Cream Castles claim for 1/2 penny is out.


The $3 billion dollar claim is out as well.


And payment has been authorized for Bremer and various law firms. In addition, future payment schedules have been identified by the Judge.


A great deal has been addressed recently.


I wonder how long the DNA testing and results will take. I did not see anything in regards to DNA testing for possible children. Perhaps that is a seperate order/condition.


--- DNA test don't take long so the genic issues should be resolved soon.
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Reply #533 posted 10/31/16 12:53pm

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ISAIDLIFEISJUSTAGAME: Do you think the judge is really going to make everyone submit to a DNA?? Just because CQW say so? That is just a Purposed Order so it's not really set in stone yet??

That is just a proposed order and not the Judge's Order.

I havent had time to look at everything. I will get back with you once I look.

A lot was filed today.

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Reply #534 posted 10/31/16 12:54pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

nelcp777 said:

What's the deal with the Claire Nelson documents? She claims the court has the marriage certificate and Prince's will. I addition, she has signed and notarized that she accepts the apointment and role as represenative. I understand that this is her petition, but really? Pretty bold if there is no any corraborating documents.

Corey is requesting reconsideration for the DNA.

Carlin Q has to pay for his 2nd testing.

Tyka and the half-siblings have been ordered for DNA testing. Those who refuse could be motioned to take it.

The Ice Cream Castles claim for 1/2 penny is out.

The $3 billion dollar claim is out as well.

And payment has been authorized for Bremer and various law firms. In addition, future payment schedules have been identified by the Judge.

A great deal has been addressed recently.

I wonder how long the DNA testing and results will take. I did not see anything in regards to DNA testing for possible children. Perhaps that is a seperate order/condition.

The CIA has Claire's documents. lol lol

In case you missed this previously, Claire intervened in Michael Jackson's estate also.

Claire is a wannabe wacky loser

I had heard such here in regards to the Jackson Estate. I am perplexed by claims that are made. In the end, documents and evidence will be needed. It amazes me.

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Reply #535 posted 10/31/16 12:58pm

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ISAIDLIFEISJUSTAGAME: Do you think the judge is really going to make everyone submit to a DNA?? Just because CQW say so? That is just a Purposed Order so it's not really set in stone yet??

I cant even access the documents right now.

Traffic must be high

Pfffffffffft

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Reply #536 posted 10/31/16 1:13pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

zenarose said:

ISAIDLIFEISJUSTAGAME: Do you think the judge is really going to make everyone submit to a DNA?? Just because CQW say so? That is just a Purposed Order so it's not really set in stone yet??

I cant even access the documents right now.

Traffic must be high

Pfffffffffft

I read the file. I believe that CQ is asking the Judge to order all to have DNA tests. A Proposed Order is "asking" the Judge to make it so, right? If so I really don't think the Judge will entertain CQ much longer. I'm hoping that the Judge will get down to brass tacks with Claire. He ruled that she could not come back to court unless she had a marriage license. She is really pushing it saying that the court has it. no no no!

You know, CQ was ordered to submit to DNA before Sept. 21st wasn't he? So this filing is late as it posted on 10/25/16.

[Edited 10/31/16 13:18pm]

[Edited 10/31/16 13:22pm]

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Reply #537 posted 10/31/16 1:38pm

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PennyPurple said:

I would think that as much as Prince wanted children, if he'd had one, he would've have included that child in his life and would've played a bigger role in being a parent.

I don't think Prince has any living children. However, Clint Eastwood had two kids that he supported for a long time (and I believe he was involved in their lives) that the general public did not know about until his son decided to pursue acting. The kid was in his 20s at the time. Of course, Eastwood has a lot of kids so keeping track isn't easy. My point, though, is that just because the general public doesn't know about a kid, or even long lost friends or relatives, does not mean that he wouldn't have supported and been a presence in the child's life. And I think Tyka wouldn't say anything if she knew.

That's not to say that I think he has a living child. I really don't at this point. It's just that fans think we'd all know about it and I don't think that's necessarily true.

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Reply #538 posted 10/31/16 1:39pm

Mkilpatrick74

60+ page transcript of hearing available now. Very very interesting.
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Reply #539 posted 10/31/16 2:13pm

zenarose

After reading the transcripts, I bet B and V are not finished yet. Only guessing because to whom the

copies were sent to.

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