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Reply #360 posted 10/19/16 4:11pm

babynoz

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Divorce records are usually "sealed" for several years in most states.

Most, if not ALL states do not seal divorce records, or any court records.

When you file a Complaint for Divorce with the Clerk of Courts (before any responsive pleadings are even filed) it is open to the public for inspection.

Divorce filings are rarely sealed.



Thank you. I wish people would stop spreading such misinformation. The vast majority of court records are public, including divorce proceedings. Sealing them is the exception and is only done when the parties file a motion giving cause for sealing the record.

Motions to unseal records are not unusual either.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #361 posted 10/19/16 4:20pm

morningsong

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

She says P promised her marriage in 1980?

She attached as an Exhibit a photo of P and allegedly her and some child that P is holding.

She is not alleging the child is his.

I am sure once Claire sees the photo she will allege the child is P and hers.

lol eek

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-- He looks so pissed. As if he is thinking I know this chick did not bring her kids to the Holiday Inn!!! I am mistaken or has the time for filing claims has passed.



Hold up. The picture was attached? I seem to remember a minor, short discussion about wanting to see it, but I completely went past that one. Back tracking.

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Reply #362 posted 10/19/16 4:46pm

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morningsong said:

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: -- He looks so pissed. As if he is thinking I know this chick did not bring her kids to the Holiday Inn!!! I am mistaken or has the time for filing claims has passed.



Hold up. The picture was attached? I seem to remember a minor, short discussion about wanting to see it, but I completely went past that one. Back tracking.

Yes, she has a pic with Prince who is holding her kids. She also has some random pics of herself with 3 other woman. A pic of Big Chick at one of his speaking engagments and what looks like pics of a graduation ceremony. I have no idea what these pictures have to do with anything.

I think she is just either a groupie he hooked up with in Rochester or a random fan who was lucky enough to get a picture with him.

I know that according to Andre Cymone that he and Prince did some partying on that Rick James tour so she may be a long forgotton random hook up gone crazy.

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Reply #363 posted 10/19/16 5:21pm

morningsong

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:



Hold up. The picture was attached? I seem to remember a minor, short discussion about wanting to see it, but I completely went past that one. Back tracking.

Yes, she has a pic with Prince who is holding her kids. She also has some random pics of herself with 3 other woman. A pic of Big Chick at one of his speaking engagments and what looks like pics of a graduation ceremony. I have no idea what these pictures have to do with anything.

I think she is just either a groupie he hooked up with in Rochester or a random fan who was lucky enough to get a picture with him.

I know that according to Andre Cymone that he and Prince did some partying on that Rick James tour so she may be a long forgotton random hook up gone crazy.

lol nod Hey, but at least she actually got close to him, unlike say another claimant.

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Reply #364 posted 10/19/16 5:52pm

MMJas

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

MMJas said:

Is this just legal talk?

"Despite the fact that Duane has no genetic connection to Prince, 5 the Intervenors’ claim to the Estate of Prince Rogers Nelson is based squarely on a purported parent-child relationship between John L. (Prince’s presumptive father) and Duane (the Intervenors’ father and grandfather).

John L is P's presumptive father because he was married to P's mother Mattie at the time of birth. If the parents are married at the time of birth, the husband is the presumed father of the child.

Thanks.

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Reply #365 posted 10/19/16 5:54pm

Mumio

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Divorce records are usually "sealed" for several years in most states.

Most, if not ALL states do not seal divorce records, or any court records.

When you file a Complaint for Divorce with the Clerk of Courts (before any responsive pleadings are even filed) it is open to the public for inspection.

Divorce filings are rarely sealed.


Thank you Isaidlifeisjustagame. It's great having lawyers here who can clear up things like this. Very helpful.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #366 posted 10/19/16 6:00pm

MMJas

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laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:



Hold up. The picture was attached? I seem to remember a minor, short discussion about wanting to see it, but I completely went past that one. Back tracking.

Yes, she has a pic with Prince who is holding her kids. She also has some random pics of herself with 3 other woman. A pic of Big Chick at one of his speaking engagments and what looks like pics of a graduation ceremony. I have no idea what these pictures have to do with anything.

I think she is just either a groupie he hooked up with in Rochester or a random fan who was lucky enough to get a picture with him.

I know that according to Andre Cymone that he and Prince did some partying on that Rick James tour so she may be a long forgotton random hook up gone crazy.

Where did you see the photo??

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Reply #367 posted 10/19/16 6:13pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
tAGame

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MMJas said:

laurarichardson said:

Yes, she has a pic with Prince who is holding her kids. She also has some random pics of herself with 3 other woman. A pic of Big Chick at one of his speaking engagments and what looks like pics of a graduation ceremony. I have no idea what these pictures have to do with anything.

I think she is just either a groupie he hooked up with in Rochester or a random fan who was lucky enough to get a picture with him.

I know that according to Andre Cymone that he and Prince did some partying on that Rick James tour so she may be a long forgotton random hook up gone crazy.

Where did you see the photo??

It is attached to her claim as an Exhibit.

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Reply #368 posted 10/19/16 7:24pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
tAGame

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Mumio said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Most, if not ALL states do not seal divorce records, or any court records.

When you file a Complaint for Divorce with the Clerk of Courts (before any responsive pleadings are even filed) it is open to the public for inspection.

Divorce filings are rarely sealed.


Thank you Isaidlifeisjustagame. It's great having lawyers here who can clear up things like this. Very helpful.

hug

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Reply #369 posted 10/19/16 11:59pm

morningsong

Marjorie Frazier. Still haven't seen a picture. It isn't with the 1st written statement of claim.
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Reply #370 posted 10/20/16 2:33am

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morningsong said:

Marjorie Frazier. Still haven't seen a picture. It isn't with the 1st written statement of claim.

--/-/. Maybe this link works. It is page two after the written claim. http://www.mncourts.gov/m...-17-16.pdf
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Reply #371 posted 10/20/16 5:52am

udo

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Uh oh!! Unpaid bill: http://www.mncourts.gov/m...laim_8.pdf

(`If the Kid Can't Make you Come....`)

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #372 posted 10/20/16 5:56am

PennyPurple

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I feel for Prince's family. Having to deal with all these crazy's. Is there some kind of stopping point, so people can't keep filing these false claims?

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Reply #373 posted 10/20/16 6:22am

udo

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PennyPurple said:

people can't keep filing these false claims?

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Who said that Sharon Hughes' claim is false?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #374 posted 10/20/16 6:55am

nelcp777

morningsong said:

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: -- He looks so pissed. As if he is thinking I know this chick did not bring her kids to the Holiday Inn!!! I am mistaken or has the time for filing claims has passed.



Hold up. The picture was attached? I seem to remember a minor, short discussion about wanting to see it, but I completely went past that one. Back tracking.

Yeah, it is on her second submission. Check it out.

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Reply #375 posted 10/20/16 7:07am

lorenzolee

MMJas said:



Mkilpatrick74 said:


Dear God, Dixon will not go away. 66 pages of total nonsense. I've got a headache. Says he and Tyka knew all along that P was dying. Ughhhhh!!!!



Hello?


I'm not sure who this Dixon guy is,
But it does seem apparent from reading
Through the 66 pages that he is connected
Implied contractually .. according to him,
After Prince never responded to his lawsuit
In 94, there should have been a summary judgement
As prescribed by law...2 months after suit, prince attorney , sent
A dollar bill to dixon rep.
That Is an acknowledgement of some degree, so even
Though there's no signature the transfer of
Any amount of money according to copyright law,
Is a consideration.. therefore an enforceable contact.
Signed or not.
He seems crazy, but any body this determined, and not using an
Attorney is crazy not too... but intelligent
And courageous all the same.
Question? What if he's telling the truth👀
Hmmmm the plot thickens
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Reply #376 posted 10/20/16 7:20am

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lorenzolee said:

MMJas said:

Hello?

I'm not sure who this Dixon guy is, But it does seem apparent from reading Through the 66 pages that he is connected Implied contractually .. according to him, After Prince never responded to his lawsuit In 94, there should have been a summary judgement As prescribed by law...2 months after suit, prince attorney , sent A dollar bill to dixon rep. That Is an acknowledgement of some degree, so even Though there's no signature the transfer of Any amount of money according to copyright law, Is a consideration.. therefore an enforceable contact. Signed or not. He seems crazy, but any body this determined, and not using an Attorney is crazy not too... but intelligent And courageous all the same. Question? What if he's telling the truth👀 Hmmmm the plot thickens

The case that he had back in 94 was thrown out. I believe in his previous filing the Breamer attorneys had the 94 trail info as a response to his bogus claim.

He has no written proof that he owns anything so even if he is telling the truth ( why would Prince give his entire music catalogue to this guy for a $1.00?) so what. His name is not on the copyrights to anything. If he wants to go to the family and make an offer for the catalogue he is free to do so like anyone else.

He does not seem like he is crazy. He is crazy. Check out his website.

[Edited 10/20/16 7:21am]

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Reply #377 posted 10/20/16 7:25am

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udo said:

Uh oh!! Unpaid bill: http://www.mncourts.gov/m...laim_8.pdf

(`If the Kid Can't Make you Come....`)

There is no unpaid bill. This woman does not have a contract showing that she was going to be paid anything for moaning on a song. She would have to produce a contractual document to show she was suppose to get those pennies and someone would have to get an accouting for WB going back to "84" go luck with that.

My guess is she was paid on the spot (work for hire) and now thinks she can get in line with the rest of the lazy limabeans to get paid. No copyright means no ownership = no future payments.

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Reply #378 posted 10/20/16 7:26am

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udo said:

PennyPurple said:

people can't keep filing these false claims?

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Who said that Sharon Hughes' claim is false?

Copyright laws

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Reply #379 posted 10/20/16 8:08am

udo

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laurarichardson said:

udo said:

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Who said that Sharon Hughes' claim is false?

Copyright laws

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Hmm.

So she did do the work.

But already did receiv some form of payment?

(if they can dig up proof for that payemnt...)

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #380 posted 10/20/16 8:13am

1Sasha

Her claim has as much validity as any of us suing for compensation for singing along at a concert which was taped for sale at a later date. However, many of these claimants are looking for a one-time-only payment. The claimants will settle for X amount of dollars now. Better than nothing.

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Reply #381 posted 10/20/16 9:35am

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udo said:

laurarichardson said:

Copyright laws

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Hmm.

So she did do the work.

But already did receiv some form of payment?

(if they can dig up proof for that payemnt...)

They do not have to dig up proof of anything. In order for her to continue to get money from this song she would need to show herself listed a a copyright holder to the song or have a copy of a contract between her and Prince saying that she was

entillted to receive her penny share.

She states in her claim that she had a verbel agreement with him. She has no way to claim that she has any agreement with him if she has nothing in writing. Her claim is going to get thrown out for not have supporting docs.

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Reply #382 posted 10/20/16 12:32pm

morningsong

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:
Marjorie Frazier. Still haven't seen a picture. It isn't with the 1st written statement of claim.
--/-/. Maybe this link works. It is page two after the written claim. http://www.mncourts.gov/m...-17-16.pdf



biggrin Thanks. I saw it. Nope he doesn't look thrilled.

Awesome pix though.

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Reply #383 posted 10/20/16 12:40pm

cloveringold85

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laurarichardson said:

udo said:

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Hmm.

So she did do the work.

But already did receiv some form of payment?

(if they can dig up proof for that payemnt...)

They do not have to dig up proof of anything. In order for her to continue to get money from this song she would need to show herself listed a a copyright holder to the song or have a copy of a contract between her and Prince saying that she was

entillted to receive her penny share.

She states in her claim that she had a verbel agreement with him. She has no way to claim that she has any agreement with him if she has nothing in writing. Her claim is going to get thrown out for not have supporting docs.

.

Seems very suspicious that she is seeking compensation after all this time. Nobody waits 30-years for a paycheck, come on now!! rolleyes

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I wish her luck. With no supporting documents (she said it was verbal and does not have a hard copy)--no judge will support that.

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There is no way they could dig that far back into bank accounts and there is no telling what she received in "cash".

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Amazing how these people just keep coming out of the woodwork, truly amazing!! rolleyes

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #384 posted 10/20/16 1:03pm

lorenzolee

laurarichardson said:



lorenzolee said:


MMJas said:




Hello?



I'm not sure who this Dixon guy is, But it does seem apparent from reading Through the 66 pages that he is connected Implied contractually .. according to him, After Prince never responded to his lawsuit In 94, there should have been a summary judgement As prescribed by law...2 months after suit, prince attorney , sent A dollar bill to dixon rep. That Is an acknowledgement of some degree, so even Though there's no signature the transfer of Any amount of money according to copyright law, Is a consideration.. therefore an enforceable contact. Signed or not. He seems crazy, but any body this determined, and not using an Attorney is crazy not too... but intelligent And courageous all the same. Question? What if he's telling the truth👀 Hmmmm the plot thickens

The case that he had back in 94 was thrown out. I believe in his previous filing the Breamer attorneys had the 94 trail info as a response to his bogus claim.



He has no written proof that he owns anything so even if he is telling the truth ( why would Prince give his entire music catalogue to this guy for a $1.00?) so what. His name is not on the copyrights to anything. If he wants to go to the family and make an offer for the catalogue he is free to do so like anyone else.


He does not seem like he is crazy. He is crazy. Check out his website.



there's no proof that anyone has a contract with prince, if you YouTube
The Tavist Smiley interview with prince,
He states himself that his company doesn't do
Written contracts... so issuing a dollar is considered
A consideration of a dept owed ,not a catalogue
Purchase . I'm sure there are many artist that have also
Co-created music with prince, but they haven't made
A claim in this probate ... I don't think he deserves a billion dollars
But if his claims are true , on co-creating some music , he should get
Justice for exactly what's owed, if anything .
Saying someone is crazy for standing up for themselves is
Making an assumption that we were there when the two parties
Entered into whatever agreement if any.
I'm not sure...none can be sure.
The paper work in exhibits shows that the
Law suit in 94 was not dismissed totally ,
It was only dismissed as far as WB Records,
It remained in effect against Prince.
I read all 66 pages and all his filings, and as
I have knowledge of Copyright contract Law.
Only in my opinion, he has a claim...even if it's 1000 dollars
He isn't crazy.
My question is, how was he the only one
Who introduced Prince Contract for his vault into
Probate..how did he know prince filed it
In the library of Congress.. no one else knew it,
Not the Family, not the special administrator .
Hmmm things that make you go hmmmm.

[Edited 10/20/16 7:21am]

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Reply #385 posted 10/20/16 1:16pm

morningsong

lorenzolee said:

laurarichardson said:

The case that he had back in 94 was thrown out. I believe in his previous filing the Breamer attorneys had the 94 trail info as a response to his bogus claim.

He has no written proof that he owns anything so even if he is telling the truth ( why would Prince give his entire music catalogue to this guy for a $1.00?) so what. His name is not on the copyrights to anything. If he wants to go to the family and make an offer for the catalogue he is free to do so like anyone else.

He does not seem like he is crazy. He is crazy. Check out his website.

there's no proof that anyone has a contract with prince, if you YouTube The Tavist Smiley interview with prince, He states himself that his company doesn't do Written contracts... so issuing a dollar is considered A consideration of a dept owed ,not a catalogue Purchase . I'm sure there are many artist that have also Co-created music with prince, but they haven't made A claim in this probate ... I don't think he deserves a billion dollars But if his claims are true , on co-creating some music , he should get Justice for exactly what's owed, if anything . Saying someone is crazy for standing up for themselves is Making an assumption that we were there when the two parties Entered into whatever agreement if any. I'm not sure...none can be sure. The paper work in exhibits shows that the Law suit in 94 was not dismissed totally , It was only dismissed as far as WB Records, It remained in effect against Prince. I read all 66 pages and all his filings, and as I have knowledge of Copyright contract Law. Only in my opinion, he has a claim...even if it's 1000 dollars He isn't crazy. My question is, how was he the only one Who introduced Prince Contract for his vault into Probate..how did he know prince filed it In the library of Congress.. no one else knew it, Not the Family, not the special administrator . Hmmm things that make you go hmmmm.

[Edited 10/20/16 7:21am]



Yep sounds legit he co-created with Prince and nobody else, I read that in one of his several filings. I also read that PR the movie (and GB), the "beef" between The Kid and Morris was actually the story of the reallife beef between Prince and the "Merc" aka Dixon. Seems like everything in Prince's professional life is essentially tied to Dixon, according to Dixon. Yep, sounds completely sane to me.

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Reply #386 posted 10/20/16 1:34pm

roxy831

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morningsong said:

lorenzolee said:

laurarichardson said:



Yep sounds legit he co-created with Prince and nobody else, I read that in one of his several filings. I also read that PR the movie (and GB), the "beef" between The Kid and Morris was actually the story of the reallife beef between Prince and the "Merc" aka Dixon. Seems like everything in Prince's professional life is essentially tied to Dixon, according to Dixon. Yep, sounds completely sane to me.

Morningsong: Where did you read that?

Welcome home class. We've come a long way. - RIP Prince
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Reply #387 posted 10/20/16 2:46pm

morningsong

roxy831 said:

morningsong said:



Yep sounds legit he co-created with Prince and nobody else, I read that in one of his several filings. I also read that PR the movie (and GB), the "beef" between The Kid and Morris was actually the story of the reallife beef between Prince and the "Merc" aka Dixon. Seems like everything in Prince's professional life is essentially tied to Dixon, according to Dixon. Yep, sounds completely sane to me.

Morningsong: Where did you read that?



I'll post it a bit later. It's an interesting read.

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Reply #388 posted 10/20/16 3:04pm

nelcp777

morningsong said:

lorenzolee said:

laurarichardson said:



Yep sounds legit he co-created with Prince and nobody else, I read that in one of his several filings. I also read that PR the movie (and GB), the "beef" between The Kid and Morris was actually the story of the reallife beef between Prince and the "Merc" aka Dixon. Seems like everything in Prince's professional life is essentially tied to Dixon, according to Dixon. Yep, sounds completely sane to me.

Were you being sarcastic? I could not tell from your reply so just asking for clarificaiton.

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Reply #389 posted 10/20/16 3:22pm

nelcp777

lorenzolee said:

laurarichardson said:

The case that he had back in 94 was thrown out. I believe in his previous filing the Breamer attorneys had the 94 trail info as a response to his bogus claim.

He has no written proof that he owns anything so even if he is telling the truth ( why would Prince give his entire music catalogue to this guy for a $1.00?) so what. His name is not on the copyrights to anything. If he wants to go to the family and make an offer for the catalogue he is free to do so like anyone else.

He does not seem like he is crazy. He is crazy. Check out his website.

there's no proof that anyone has a contract with prince, if you YouTube The Tavist Smiley interview with prince, He states himself that his company doesn't do Written contracts... so issuing a dollar is considered A consideration of a dept owed ,not a catalogue Purchase . I'm sure there are many artist that have also Co-created music with prince, but they haven't made A claim in this probate ... I don't think he deserves a billion dollars But if his claims are true , on co-creating some music , he should get Justice for exactly what's owed, if anything . Saying someone is crazy for standing up for themselves is Making an assumption that we were there when the two parties Entered into whatever agreement if any. I'm not sure...none can be sure. The paper work in exhibits shows that the Law suit in 94 was not dismissed totally , It was only dismissed as far as WB Records, It remained in effect against Prince. I read all 66 pages and all his filings, and as I have knowledge of Copyright contract Law. Only in my opinion, he has a claim...even if it's 1000 dollars He isn't crazy. My question is, how was he the only one Who introduced Prince Contract for his vault into Probate..how did he know prince filed it In the library of Congress.. no one else knew it, Not the Family, not the special administrator . Hmmm things that make you go hmmmm.

[Edited 10/20/16 7:21am]

There was PR done when Prince set up the LLC. Library of Congress records are public record, perhaps Dixon got them from a request. Not sure. Same with the LLC information. I am only speculating. I do think it is interesting he has a copy of the transfer paper work.

I still think, Prince made contracts even after his whole anti-contract pose. He would have to with the government.

I am skeptical of his claim. I find it odd he just recently produced his exhibits, why not initially?

If he did have an agreement early in Prince's career, then there should be a contract, since he signed them orginally.

As for the lawyer story with the dollar, I have to review that and process it. There is some smoke there, if legit.

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