OperatingThetan said:

'Turn me Loose' was from an unreleased 2008 album that was also to include 'Prince and the Band'. Prince performed the song in front of the projected album cover on Leno in '08.

i'd love to hear that album also, that cover was very nice

OperatingThetan said:

'Turn me Loose' was from an unreleased 2008 album that was also to include 'Prince and the Band'. Prince performed the song in front of the projected album cover on Leno in '08.

I wish he had released that album instead of the awful indigo nights, hopefully we will get to hear that album in the future

[Edited 10/2/16 6:55am]

SquirrelMeat said:

I always thought there was some form of official recognition that a Duluxe was on the way. Didn't Prince pull some tracks off the giveaway version near its release date for the very purpose of a later, 'full version' of the album?

I thought it was Prince himself that said the extended 'Laydown' would be coming on the full version, but I can't be sure where I heard that.

I though the other 'missing' tracks were Rich Friends, Cause & Effect, Hot Summer and Turn Me Loose, but I could well be wrong. Didn't keep a log of the info.

I happened across "Rich Friends" randomly on YouTube just now. It's indicative of 20Ten's sound in general. It's not that impressive per se. It has the same shuffle as "Hot Summer", which sounds like "Shake", which "Cream" ends up sounding like.

For me, I put "Hot Summer" (a slightly longer version) in my 20Ten track list, right before "Laydown". I also start the album with "Cause and Effect". It's a stronger beginning song, and works well into "Compassion". I didn't think to put "Turn Me Loose" in there since it was played in 2008 and it wasn't on my mind. But it sorta fits the sound.

Militant: I can't remember if I ever heard about 20Ten deluxe back then or not, but of course I love tidbits like this.

Thanks, very interesting info.

OperatingThetan said:

'Turn me Loose' was from an unreleased 2008 album that was also to include 'Prince and the Band'. Prince performed the song in front of the projected album cover on Leno in '08.

That's what I understood too. This is possibly my most wanted album, I love those two tracks.

OperatingThetan said:

'Turn me Loose' was from an unreleased 2008 album that was also to include 'Prince and the Band'. Prince performed the song in front of the projected album cover on Leno in '08.

Do you have an actual source on this? Prince And The Band was performed in 2004 and had references to stuff that was going on in that era - it doesn't make much sense that he would ressurect that song for a project four years later.

20Ten's the only album of his that I revisited after his passing which I still feel the same way about it as when I first heard it. It's a pretty weak collection.

bluegangsta said:

OperatingThetan said:

'Turn me Loose' was from an unreleased 2008 album that was also to include 'Prince and the Band'. Prince performed the song in front of the projected album cover on Leno in '08.

Do you have an actual source on this? Prince And The Band was performed in 2004 and had references to stuff that was going on in that era - it doesn't make much sense that he would ressurect that song for a project four years later.

As far as I remember, this was a case of someone making an assumption (based on Turn me Loose performed on Leno, and the background that could have been artwork for a new project), and people building on that assumption later on, which became "so there was an album planned in 2008 which included Turn Me Loose, FUNK". I'm not sure there was any kind of insider info confirming this. Although you never know, it might be true and maybe the album was for real.

bluegangsta said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Gohi said:

I want all of these unreleased albums to come out. ASAP.

But still I'd do anything to have Prince back here working on new music inspired by his experiences on the piano tour and his near-death experience on the plane. Anything.

Every time I read a sentence like that last one, there's an instant pull on my heart. Grief sucks.

Not sure if releasing all Prince's 'intended/abandoned albums is the right way to go, as many songs get bumped to the next record etc. maybe if they were released as an amazing box set of 'Lost Albums' that might catch the record buying audiences attention. but individually releasing 'cancelled' albums would not be popular imo.

Even Roadhouse Garden is only exciting to the hardcore fans. maybe it's just better to create a Vault series that deals with themes or eras. e.g. the Early years 1976-1979; Punk-Funk 1980-1982, Purple Reign 1983-1985 etc etc.

Big question is, imnsho:

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Will we ever (soon) see and hear these songs from a commercial CD release by the Estate?

Can we put this idea (20ten deluxe) in their idea box?

Gohi said:

I want all of these unreleased albums to come out. ASAP.

But still I'd do anything to have Prince back here working on new music inspired by his experiences on the piano tour and his near-death experience on the plane. Anything.

<3

I remember listening to a Prince related podcast, and the guys actually talked to Prince about it. I remember specifically a bit about Prince telling them about a 10 minute version of Lavaux on 20Ten Deluxe.

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Prince telling them about a 10 minute version of Lavaux on 20Ten Deluxe.

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I need that!

Where is the Estate idea box?

Was it the peach and black guys that Prince told about the content of the Duluxe?

Excellent post.

Yeah, I remember that. I also got bashed quite a bit here whenever I tried to let people know about inside Prince news. They always wanted me to name my source(s)...nope. Can't do that.

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I posted that Prince had huge plans for 20ten, and that he was negotiating with WB. Then, stripped down the album, and the rest is history. I thought that ne didn't like how it was recieved, couldn't get the deal he wanted and walked.

So basically...

Wasn't the Swell Tree Lens remix of "Hey Hannigan" going to be a bonus disk ? I think it was the "Too Long To Talk About 78 Minute VocaDub Dance Edit" or something.

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Marco81 said:

bluegangsta said:

Do you have an actual source on this? Prince And The Band was performed in 2004 and had references to stuff that was going on in that era - it doesn't make much sense that he would ressurect that song for a project four years later.

As far as I remember, this was a case of someone making an assumption (based on Turn me Loose performed on Leno, and the background that could have been artwork for a new project), and people building on that assumption later on, which became "so there was an album planned in 2008 which included Turn Me Loose, FUNK". I'm not sure there was any kind of insider info confirming this. Although you never know, it might be true and maybe the album was for real.

THIS.

Someone once suggested the backdrop looked like an album cover and it snowballed from there. Last version I heard, Bria's album replaced the funk CD in the Lotus Flower set. Pure speculation, nothing more.

TwiliteKid said:

Marco81 said:

As far as I remember, this was a case of someone making an assumption (based on Turn me Loose performed on Leno, and the background that could have been artwork for a new project), and people building on that assumption later on, which became "so there was an album planned in 2008 which included Turn Me Loose, FUNK". I'm not sure there was any kind of insider info confirming this. Although you never know, it might be true and maybe the album was for real.

THIS.

Someone once suggested the backdrop looked like an album cover and it snowballed from there. Last version I heard, Bria's album replaced the funk CD in the Lotus Flower set. Pure speculation, nothing more.

That's what I had heard as well - with Feel Good, Feel Better, Feel Wonderful also slated for that CD.

bluegangsta said:

SteveWask said:

bluegangsta said:

Do you have an actual source on this? Prince And The Band was performed in 2004 and had references to stuff that was going on in that era - it doesn't make much sense that he would ressurect that song for a project four years later.

Don't forget there's a studio version from 2007 that was played on the PA before some of the 21 nights shows. A re recording of Sexy MF was played to.

DO you know if these appear on any bootlegs? I can't say I've heard of these before.

bluegangsta said:

Giovanni777 said:

Excellent post.

Yeah, I remember that. I also got bashed quite a bit here whenever I tried to let people know about inside Prince news. They always wanted me to name my source(s)...nope. Can't do that.

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I posted that Prince had huge plans for 20ten, and that he was negotiating with WB. Then, stripped down the album, and the rest is history. I thought that ne didn't like how it was recieved, couldn't get the deal he wanted and walked.

me too.