phatphuk |
dance4me3121 said:
"...I know someone that tried suicide but by trying to overdose by taking about 20 or so aspirins at once..."
Bummer!
Is that what they call "A cry for help"?
Glad your friend has recovered. Thanks for sharing.
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Superconductor said: DiamondStarr said:
I'm sorry, but I beg to differ...
I am NOT mourning some superficial image that I had of Prince or some facade of what I wanted him to be. It's much, much deeper than that. I'm very aware that he accidentally overdosed on something that he should not have had access to and kept secret from the rest of the world. And I'm very clear on the fact that he was a human being and fallible just like the rest of us. I knew that he wasn't "pure" because I did happen to run into him backstage at a concert many years ago (and that's all I'll say about that particular meeting). So please don't take our sorrow as a figment of some schoolgirl infatuation crush.
Prince inspired me in my life, and helped me to change the path of my life. He was the only one who made me realize that it was okay to be... well, me. No matter what others might have thought. Although some of his lyrics were, let's say risque, he sang about finding unconditional true love and to end his loneliness. He sang about the kind of love that everyone searches for, but never really finds because I believe it's the love that can only come from God. (Everybody's looking for the ladder) He knew this, but yet we all went on those searches with him, we went on many journeys with him. Exploring him, exploring ourselves, and throwing in a little party time in between the excursions. Prince was a part of many of our lives for many years in a spiritual, magical, mysterious, meaningful way. And i guess waking up every morning knowing that his light, energy, power and spirit are no longer in a physical form to influence change in me, change in the WORLD is beyond heartbreaking. This world needs more love in it, not less. Prince operated on a different vibrational level than most of us. If he didn't, he would not have accomplished all that he did accomplish. He was ONE of kind. There's no one, past. present and probably future who's done what he did. A short, skinny black kid from Minnesota with a name like something you'd read in a fairytale. Mastered every instrument he touched, sang like an Angel, created his own fashion style, fought the evil empire (and won), then created his own recording empire, had his OWN COLOR and his OWN SYMBOL! No... there will never be another one like him. And it's a great, great loss for not just his fans, but for humanity.
This is why I grieve.
I have no doubt that your grief is sincere but attributing to Prince some higher spiritual being or power is delusional. The love symbol was created by graphic designers. It's part of his branding. The love message has been around thousands of years, it's from the book of Leviticus. The dispute with Warner was about control over his music and monetary profits. I could go on but you probably won't be convinced anyway. Anyhow, I suggest you get help. This is not healthy if it interferes with your day to day life.
You are very free with the word delusional. I'd be interested what you mean...because you seem here to be using it in the first instance to mean 'people who have spiritual beleifs I don't agree with'...and you're more than entitled to that belief, and there are a ton of other people who won't or wouldn't concur...including Prince himself. Some people have spiritual experiences other people don't. Some people experience Prince as having been a very spiritually gifted individual. Those are meaningful experiences to those people. I wouldn't be so quick to decide they are unhealthy because you don't experience it that way. The Love symbol was created to his specifications. The fact he used graphic designers is irrelevant. And you can call it branding if you like, but that's a very cynically dismissive way of approaching the power of symbols. Do you thing the Star of David is part of Judaism's branding? Or is that a weird way to think about it? And yes, the love message has been around for a long time. As it should be. And? I could go on as well. A little less judgment and a little more open-mindedness maybe? I suggest you reread what I actually wrote instead of putting words into my mouth and then criticising your misinterpretation of what I wrote. ...every night another symphony... |
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I'd gladly pull all my teeth out not to go through grief again. "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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phatphuk |
purplethunder3121 said:
"...I'd gladly pull all my teeth out..."
Is that what they call "A pry for help"?
;¬)
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phatphuk said:
purplethunder3121 said:
"...I'd gladly pull all my teeth out..."
Is that what they call "A pry for help"?
;¬)
You deserve a for that one. "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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dance4me3121 said: phatphuk said:
I wonder. Has there been anybody out there — that anybody here might have heard of — that has gone so far in their grief so as to actually commit suicide as a direct result of Prince's death?
God forbid, of course.
But you gotta figure, there's probably at least two or three somewhere in the whole wide world. No?
Has anybody here had such ideations themselves?
I know someone that tried suicide but by trying to overdose by taking about 20 or so aspirins at once . let's just say he's never gonna take another aspirin again and will see prince again but for now will enjoy his music until then Are speaking of Prince himself when he took that bottle of aspirin on 4/21 when he was married to Mayte? I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R. |
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oliviacamron said: dance4me3121 said: I know someone that tried suicide but by trying to overdose by taking about 20 or so aspirins at once . let's just say he's never gonna take another aspirin again and will see prince again but for now will enjoy his music until then
Are speaking of Prince himself when he took that bottle of aspirin on 4/21 when he was married to Mayte? No I'm not .I really have a friend who did this but I've been wondering more about the story u are referring to.how many did prince take and why did he do it? I don't know much about that story |
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dance4me3121 said: oliviacamron said: Are speaking of Prince himself when he took that bottle of aspirin on 4/21 when he was married to Mayte?
No I'm not .I really have a friend who did this but I've been wondering more about the story u are referring to.how many did prince take and why did he do it? I don't know much about that story It's in a autobiography by Alex Hahn. All it say is on April 21 st, 20 years ago, Mayte found Prince in the studio with an empty aspirin bottle and 2 empty bottles of wine. He was unconscious and she and a friend pick him up and drove him to the E.R. All it says for reasons is Prince said he had bad headache. I wonder if he had some type of feeling that there was something wrong with the baby and he got depressed and got drunk. I know he did not drink regularly. I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R. |
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dance4me3121 said: oliviacamron said: Are speaking of Prince himself when he took that bottle of aspirin on 4/21 when he was married to Mayte?
No I'm not .I really have a friend who did this but I've been wondering more about the story u are referring to.how many did prince take and why did he do it? I don't know much about that story It's in a autobiography by Alex Hahn. All it say is on April 21 st, 20 years ago, Mayte found Prince in the studio with an empty aspirin bottle and 2 empty bottles of wine. He was unconscious and she and a friend pick him up and drove him to the E.R. All it says for reasons is Prince said he had bad headache. I wonder if he had some type of feeling that there was something wrong with the baby and he got depressed and got drunk. I know he did not drink regularly. I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R. |
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Lovejunky said:
DiamondStarr said:
I'm sorry, but I beg to differ...
I am NOT mourning some superficial image that I had of Prince or some facade of what I wanted him to be. It's much, much deeper than that. I'm very aware that he accidentally overdosed on something that he should not have had access to and kept secret from the rest of the world. And I'm very clear on the fact that he was a human being and fallible just like the rest of us. I knew that he wasn't "pure" because I did happen to run into him backstage at a concert many years ago (and that's all I'll say about that particular meeting). So please don't take our sorrow as a figment of some schoolgirl infatuation crush.
Prince inspired me in my life, and helped me to change the path of my life. He was the only one who made me realize that it was okay to be... well, me. No matter what others might have thought. Although some of his lyrics were, let's say risque, he sang about finding unconditional true love and to end his loneliness. He sang about the kind of love that everyone searches for, but never really finds because I believe it's the love that can only come from God. (Everybody's looking for the ladder) He knew this, but yet we all went on those searches with him, we went on many journeys with him. Exploring him, exploring ourselves, and throwing in a little party time in between the excursions. Prince was a part of many of our lives for many years in a spiritual, magical, mysterious, meaningful way. And i guess waking up every morning knowing that his light, energy, power and spirit are no longer in a physical form to influence change in me, change in the WORLD is beyond heartbreaking. This world needs more love in it, not less. Prince operated on a different vibrational level than most of us. If he didn't, he would not have accomplished all that he did accomplish. He was ONE of kind. There's no one, past. present and probably future who's done what he did. A short, skinny black kid from Minnesota with a name like something you'd read in a fairytale. Mastered every instrument he touched, sang like an Angel, created his own fashion style, fought the evil empire (and won), then created his own recording empire, had his OWN COLOR and his OWN SYMBOL! No... there will never be another one like him. And it's a great, great loss for not just his fans, but for humanity.
This is why I grieve.
Thank you DiamondStarr......
You're very welcome LoveJunky <3
Sweet wind blew
Not a moment to soon.
I cry when I realized
That sweet wind was you.
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oliviacamron said:
TurnItUp said:
You are not alone! I co-sign. The part that bothers me is that he was alone and he didn't have a closeness with his family and he didn't have a family (wife/children). I think that would've helped him through his struggle. I'm also upset that we didn't get to view him one last time before he was cremated. It was his wish, but I still wished he could've have seen him besides that TMZ picture.
April 21st 2016 is a day that we, the orgers will NEVER forget. All we can do is say that he is in a better place and maybe there will be more closure to this tremendous loss.
Diamondstar, I am crying every F ing day. The I wish we lived in the same town so we could cry together .
Olivia, I wish we were too... Not too many people understand the connection we had with him. Sweet wind blew
Not a moment to soon.
I cry when I realized
That sweet wind was you.
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