oliviacamron said:

PeteSilas said:

every day, every single day. why him? why that way? life/god has a cruel sense of irony. I just watched a vid on youtube about paisley park, circa 88, where one guy raved about his work ethic saying he did more in one year than a lot of hardworking artists did in five. just a freak and a force of nature, why him? And if he could get lost somehow, what is the hope for the rest of us schmucks?

He was fucking poisoned. I'm angry . I will not shut up. I can't believe they would kill him either but then again , his beauty and God given anointed talent probably made them hate him more. Who ? Warners, Illuminati, Satan worshipers who rule this world. I don't care who thinks I'm crazy. I love Prince and when I think about letting it go, I look at him and decide I will not be silent. Prince was murdered. Now God allowed it to happen, why? Those kind of things we won't understand while we are on earth.

God allowed Jesus to be Murdered....

Its tough to understand...

doves4ever said:

Lovejunky said:

and here is another comment posted by someone else...

I am just realizing the astounding and mysterious ways that Prince served the Lord,combined with his tremendous love for others. There are no coincidences possible to explain the spiritual messages,or the circumstances behind everything he did,and said, over the course of his career. Millions of people, including myself have been listening non stop to his live performances that are now available on you tube. It just seems like a music lovers perfect paradise,a sudden bounty of musical beauty,but it is much more. There is no accident behind the genius of forbidding it til his death. Many are hearing the message at the exact right time to help change the world. As far back as the eighties,there are spiritual gems,and truths,in the songs.The live performance of AnaStecia for instance. Many thousands deeply moved singing out loud.God is love,Love is God,girls and boys love the Lord. Annastacia means,reborn,ressurection. Gregory means Watchman! I hope others share,and comment. I am deeply moved,and grateful to Prince

Thank you for this. The person seems to have some good insight. You've found some very interesting comments. .

There are SO many comments out there like this....SHall I post MORE ?

Starrdust505 said:

Lovejunky said:

Reading some articles today I came across an amazing comment under this

Essay :

To Be Yourself Completely: The Collective Grief of Losing Prince

http://www.onbeing.org/blog/to-be-yourself-completely-the-collective-grief-of-losing-prince/8640#.V-dL93zncft.facebook

Looking in on my life, people around me sees the deep grief I am experiencing to be about a man I never met. I am very aware through my continued sobs that I mourn the fact that I had let the Purple and Sparkle die in my life some 20 years ago... listening to his music now has connected me to the "body emotion and memories" of the hopes, dreams and ambition I had before *I LET* life drape me in browns, grays and muted pastels. I look in the mirror at the dowdy overweight 60 yr old I have become and mourn for the life I let slip through my fingers.
And, not to let his meaning to my life go to waste, I have already begun to start erasing dowdy from the who_that_I_am now...

Can U Relate ?

Thank you for sharing this wonderful article. It is a beautiful piece with a powerful inspiring message which resonates deeply with me. It calls for a lot of self reflection so I will save it to read again and reflect on what this aspect of Prince's legacy personally means to me.

I CAN SO relate...

I have been afraid many times in my life to display all my colours ...

Im 55 and PROUDy though..not Dowdy..

Lovejunky said:

Prolonged grief

Just as dying is an inevitable part of the cycle of life, bereavement is a necessary aspect of living. There is no timeline for grief. In addition, cultural and circumstantial factors contribute to how people express and cope with it.

Recognizing depression in grief

Bereavement is not linear. It takes multiple forms at different times in one’s life. It is influenced, among other things, by the strength of our attachment to the lost loved one and how central he or she was to our lives. Bereavement never really ends. It ebbs after a while, but can then emerge on birthdays and anniversaries, in certain places, or triggered by something like a special song.

If you are in the process of coping with the sudden death of a loved or the lengthy grieving process associated with terminal illness, here are a few suggestions:

• Expect to feel depressed. Loss of appetite, trouble sleeping, and sadness are all part of the normal grief process, and are best not interfered with.
• Expect grief to wax and wane over time. You may feel “fine” one day, only to slip back into deep grief the next day.
• Build and use a support network. Grieving individuals need others to talk to and to care for them not just for a few days, but over an extended period of time. This is especially true for those people who are primary caretakers for a terminally ill loved one.
• If you experience thoughts of suicide, serious weight loss, or are unable to perform daily functions such as getting out of bed or going to work for more than an occasional day, consider seeking additional professional help.

Lovejunky said:

Superconductor said:

Lovejunky said:

God allowed Jesus to be Murdered....

Its tough to understand...

The above comments show that there is sadness over his death and then there is this - projection of irrational beliefs and conspiracy theories. He was wasn't murdered and he was not like Jesus. Why him? Because he was addicted to pain killers and took street pills. So that blows that whole public persona that people believed in to smithereens. And that's what people maybe mourn, the image they had of him and the reality are quite different. So this ongoing grief is more about them than him. Which is ok, up to a point, as long as it doesn't stop them from functioning in their life.

Agreed.

Superconductor said:

"...The above comments show that there is sadness over his death and then there is this - projection of irrational beliefs and conspiracy theories.

He was wasn't murdered and he was not like Jesus.

Why him? Because he was addicted to pain killers and took street pills.

So that blows that whole public persona that people believed in to smithereens. And that's what people maybe mourn, the image they had of him and the reality are quite different. So this ongoing grief is more about them than him. Which is ok, up to a point, as long as it doesn't stop them from functioning in their life...."

This nailed it!

Superconductor said:

Lovejunky said:

God allowed Jesus to be Murdered....

Its tough to understand...

The above comments show that there is sadness over his death and then there is this - projection of irrational beliefs and conspiracy theories. He was wasn't murdered and he was not like Jesus. Why him? Because he was addicted to pain killers and took street pills. So that blows that whole public persona that people believed in to smithereens. And that's what people maybe mourn, the image they had of him and the reality are quite different. So this ongoing grief is more about them than him. Which is ok, up to a point, as long as it doesn't stop them from functioning in their life.

Nah. I'm mourning a lot of things, but the ideal of P as some straight-edger isn't one of them. I'm incredibly sad he was addicted and didn't feel able to trust anyone enough to ask for help, but his addiction itself changes nothing about what I feel about him, or who I feel he was, and its loss is not a significant part of the loss I feel, at all.

Amethyst5 said:

roxy831 said:

Lovejunky said:

oliviacamron said:

"...He was fucking poisoned..."

My! What very christ-like vocabulary you have there!

Did you learn to cuss like that from the bible?

I wish all religious leaders of the world swore like sailors the way you do. Such a wordly, unpious emphasis might make some of their clap trap sound more believable.

phatphuk said:

oliviacamron said:

"...That's right. Fuck...if you don't relate, get off of it..."

I can relate to "Fuck" though ;¬) Just like you.

That's gotta count for something. Right?

doves4ever said:

Lovejunky said:

There are SO many comments out there like this....SHall I post MORE ?

Yes, it would be great if you post more, or maybe a link would be good. It can be so inspiring and helpful to read comments like these. Where did you find such interesting discussions? At one time I was searching for things like this but didn't find much. .

doves4ever,

I read all the comments at the bottom of articles and youtube...

I will assemble some more...Maybe in a seperate Post

THere are so many people experiencing PROFOUND inner sadness,

and many like you and I are finding that we are looking more closely at our own relationship with GOD..

If nothing else, his Departure from this world seems to have AWOKEN many people to a LOVE they didnt know they had.

Perhaps this was Princes Real and Higher purpose ?

He was without doubt a sincere Seeker..

never stopped looking for the TRUTH his whole life...

Personally, this is THE Takeaway for me....

"Never stop Never stop "

roxy831 said:

Superconductor said:

Lovejunky said: The above comments show that there is sadness over his death and then there is this - projection of irrational beliefs and conspiracy theories. He was wasn't murdered and he was not like Jesus. Why him? Because he was addicted to pain killers and took street pills. So that blows that whole public persona that people believed in to smithereens. And that's what people maybe mourn, the image they had of him and the reality are quite different. So this ongoing grief is more about them than him. Which is ok, up to a point, as long as it doesn't stop them from functioning in their life.

Agreed.

I'm sorry, but I beg to differ...

I am NOT mourning some superficial image that I had of Prince or some facade of what I wanted him to be. It's much, much deeper than that. I'm very aware that he accidentally overdosed on something that he should not have had access to and kept secret from the rest of the world. And I'm very clear on the fact that he was a human being and fallible just like the rest of us. I knew that he wasn't "pure" because I did happen to run into him backstage at a concert many years ago (and that's all I'll say about that particular meeting). So please don't take our sorrow as a figment of some schoolgirl infatuation crush.

Prince inspired me in my life, and helped me to change the path of my life. He was the only one who made me realize that it was okay to be... well, me. No matter what others might have thought. Although some of his lyrics were, let's say risque, he sang about finding unconditional true love and to end his loneliness. He sang about the kind of love that everyone searches for, but never really finds because I believe it's the love that can only come from God. (Everybody's looking for the ladder) He knew this, but yet we all went on those searches with him, we went on many journeys with him. Exploring him, exploring ourselves, and throwing in a little party time in between the excursions. Prince was a part of many of our lives for many years in a spiritual, magical, mysterious, meaningful way. And i guess waking up every morning knowing that his light, energy, power and spirit are no longer in a physical form to influence change in me, change in the WORLD is beyond heartbreaking. This world needs more love in it, not less. Prince operated on a different vibrational level than most of us. If he didn't, he would not have accomplished all that he did accomplish. He was ONE of kind. There's no one, past. present and probably future who's done what he did. A short, skinny black kid from Minnesota with a name like something you'd read in a fairytale. Mastered every instrument he touched, sang like an Angel, created his own fashion style, fought the evil empire (and won), then created his own recording empire, had his OWN COLOR and his OWN SYMBOL! No... there will never be another one like him. And it's a great, great loss for not just his fans, but for humanity.

This is why I grieve.

Superconductor said:

Lovejunky said:

God allowed Jesus to be Murdered....

Its tough to understand...

The above comments show that there is sadness over his death and then there is this - projection of irrational beliefs and conspiracy theories. He was wasn't murdered and he was not like Jesus. Why him? Because he was addicted to pain killers and took street pills. So that blows that whole public persona that people believed in to smithereens. And that's what people maybe mourn, the image they had of him and the reality are quite different. So this ongoing grief is more about them than him. Which is ok, up to a point, as long as it doesn't stop them from functioning in their life.

I'm sorry, but I beg to differ...

I am NOT mourning some superficial image that I had of Prince or some facade of what I wanted him to be. It's much, much deeper than that. I'm very aware that he accidentally overdosed on something that he should not have had access to and kept secret from the rest of the world. And I'm very clear on the fact that he was a human being and fallible just like the rest of us. I knew that he wasn't "pure" because I did happen to run into him backstage at a concert many years ago (and that's all I'll say about that particular meeting). So please don't take our sorrow as a figment of some schoolgirl infatuation crush.

Prince inspired me in my life, and helped me to change the path of my life. He was the only one who made me realize that it was okay to be... well, me. No matter what others might have thought. Although some of his lyrics were, let's say risque, he sang about finding unconditional true love and to end his loneliness. He sang about the kind of love that everyone searches for, but never really finds because I believe it's the love that can only come from God. (Everybody's looking for the ladder) He knew this, but yet we all went on those searches with him, we went on many journeys with him. Exploring him, exploring ourselves, and throwing in a little party time in between the excursions. Prince was a part of many of our lives for many years in a spiritual, magical, mysterious, meaningful way. And i guess waking up every morning knowing that his light, energy, power and spirit are no longer in a physical form to influence change in me, change in the WORLD is beyond heartbreaking. This world needs more love in it, not less. Prince operated on a different vibrational level than most of us. If he didn't, he would not have accomplished all that he did accomplish. He was ONE of kind. There's no one, past. present and probably future who's done what he did. A short, skinny black kid from Minnesota with a name like something you'd read in a fairytale. Mastered every instrument he touched, sang like an Angel, created his own fashion style, fought the evil empire (and won), then created his own recording empire, had his OWN COLOR and his OWN SYMBOL! No... there will never be another one like him. And it's a great, great loss for not just his fans, but for humanity.

This is why I grieve.

DiamondStarr said:

I'm sorry, but I beg to differ...

I am NOT mourning some superficial image that I had of Prince or some facade of what I wanted him to be. It's much, much deeper than that. I'm very aware that he accidentally overdosed on something that he should not have had access to and kept secret from the rest of the world. And I'm very clear on the fact that he was a human being and fallible just like the rest of us. I knew that he wasn't "pure" because I did happen to run into him backstage at a concert many years ago (and that's all I'll say about that particular meeting). So please don't take our sorrow as a figment of some schoolgirl infatuation crush.

Prince inspired me in my life, and helped me to change the path of my life. He was the only one who made me realize that it was okay to be... well, me. No matter what others might have thought. Although some of his lyrics were, let's say risque, he sang about finding unconditional true love and to end his loneliness. He sang about the kind of love that everyone searches for, but never really finds because I believe it's the love that can only come from God. (Everybody's looking for the ladder) He knew this, but yet we all went on those searches with him, we went on many journeys with him. Exploring him, exploring ourselves, and throwing in a little party time in between the excursions. Prince was a part of many of our lives for many years in a spiritual, magical, mysterious, meaningful way. And i guess waking up every morning knowing that his light, energy, power and spirit are no longer in a physical form to influence change in me, change in the WORLD is beyond heartbreaking. This world needs more love in it, not less. Prince operated on a different vibrational level than most of us. If he didn't, he would not have accomplished all that he did accomplish. He was ONE of kind. There's no one, past. present and probably future who's done what he did. A short, skinny black kid from Minnesota with a name like something you'd read in a fairytale. Mastered every instrument he touched, sang like an Angel, created his own fashion style, fought the evil empire (and won), then created his own recording empire, had his OWN COLOR and his OWN SYMBOL! No... there will never be another one like him. And it's a great, great loss for not just his fans, but for humanity.

This is why I grieve.

Thank you DiamondStarr......

Lovejunky said:

I wrote this on my blog in a letter to Prince, regarding another tribute instead of a memorial about a month or two ago, and I believe this is why his ... why we are still grieving...


So, no, I never met you, but I loved you and you brought me gifts that are priceless, and since I am merely a fan, a tribute should be enough, but it’s not. A tribute is not personal, but the way you touched my life through your music, your shared thoughts, was very personal to me, and as such, us fans need something more personal to be able to let you go, to say good-bye, to tell you we love you. No more tributes, we need a true memorial. We need you in your own words, your own voice, and to share the memories of those that loved you best, knew you best, were closest to you, to know we mattered to you as much as you mattered to us, that you loved us, as much as we loved you.


While we may never have met Prince, never spent one-on-one time with him, he did touch us deeply through his music, his presence, his words, his art. Art has a way of touching people in a very personal way. For those that have been fans for such a long time, it was as though he became a part of our lives in a very real way. We've laughed with him, loved with him, shared our lives with him. His music, his art, helped us to define who we are, shaped our core, touched our hearts. So, no, while we didn't know him, he was still a large part of our lives, a part of our memories. While he may never have known us, he was a part of who we became.

I wonder. Has there been anybody out there — that anybody here might have heard of — that has gone so far in their grief so as to actually commit suicide as a direct result of Prince's death?

God forbid, of course.

But you gotta figure, there's probably at least two or three somewhere in the whole wide world. No?

Has anybody here had such ideations themselves?

DiamondStarr said:

Not sure this is the place to post this but I feel that I can't be the only Prince fan who's struggling with inexplicable grief over his death. I still cry quite often and I never even met the man, much less pretend to know who he was as a person. But I just can't shake this grief. Every time I read a story or watch a Youtube vid about people telling their stories about Prince, and what a kind, giving, creative, spiritual, intellectual and compassionate genius he was, here come the tears again. I'm sure my husband and friends think I've lost my mind, so I do my best not to cry in front of anyone anymore, but they just don't know that I, myself don't understand it either.

Never have I felt this way about any other famous person who's passed on, and I hope I never do again because this really hurts. He should be here, doing what he does. Instead, he's not... I know God has a place and a plan for everyone. Common sense tells me that is was just him time to leave, but that still doesn't make the tears stop.

Is there anyone else out there still struggling with this "grief"? I know I can't be the only one, so I set an account here to hopefully talk to others who are "suffering" like I am for no darned explicable reason that I can think of. I've cried more over this man whom I've never met, than I have over my own family members that have passed. What the hell is wrong with me??

If there's anyone else out there, who'd like to discuss their Prince related grief, please post here. If you have a story to tell, I'd love to hear it. Maybe we can help each other heal.

Thanks for listening...

You are not alone! I co-sign. The part that bothers me is that he was alone and he didn't have a closeness with his family and he didn't have a family (wife/children). I think that would've helped him through his struggle. I'm also upset that we didn't get to view him one last time before he was cremated. It was his wish, but I still wished he could've have seen him besides that TMZ picture.

April 21st 2016 is a day that we, the orgers will NEVER forget. All we can do is say that he is in a better place and maybe there will be more closure to this tremendous loss.

TurnItUp said:

doves4ever said:

Lovejunky said:

There are SO many comments out there like this....SHall I post MORE ?

Yes, it would be great if you post more, or maybe a link would be good. It can be so inspiring and helpful to read comments like these. Where did you find such interesting discussions? At one time I was searching for things like this but didn't find much. .

I Started a dedicated thread for these doves4ever

http://prince.org/msg/7/433003

oliviacamron said:

I was more surprised to find out Prince was a goodie ! I did not follow Prince for 31 years ! I did knot have any opinion. God showed me in a dream the death of Prince days before it happened. I did not dream how he died, only that he passed away. Now the reason I dreamed this, I guess because it was going to affect my life so much. Prince was my first love/ lust. You don't know how much you love someone until they die. When I found out he died, I lost it. I never grieved this hard. to the above comment, I was not a Prince fan. I've only listened to Christian music the last 8 years. Where did I hide that love I still had for him for 31 years, I don't know. But I do know this, I don't care what he wore, what he did, what role he played on stage, I love the soul I see inside his eyes. As for conspiracies, I GUESS YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF GOD IN ORDER TO BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF EVIL. I was NOT aware of the Illuminati or the Builderberg Group until Prince died. I heard from politician once that there was satanic worship in government and they really do human sacrifice, but I had no idea it was worldwide, integrated, in government, bankers, entertainment industry. They are moving fast to a new world order. You think I'm crazy, well think Prince is crazy too because he believed this stuff and he tried to make us aware of this evil power running the world. Prince was murdered. You can look at his lyrics, the Simpsons episode, the tainted pills, and the weird details that don't add up surrounding his death, and that's your evidence right there ! Organ failure theory is irrelevant and distracting . Unfortunately, the person at the top who ordered Prince dead, will not be found out. There may be a fall guy or at best they may even find the lab the pills were made. But to who ever Warner's paid to get these pills to Prince will probably not be found , not the real culprit anyway. I do not care if you don't agree or what you say. I love Prince and I will not shut up.
Oliviacamron

DiamondStarr said:

phatphuk said:

Superconductor said:

DiamondStarr said:

I'm sorry, but I beg to differ...

I am NOT mourning some superficial image that I had of Prince or some facade of what I wanted him to be. It's much, much deeper than that. I'm very aware that he accidentally overdosed on something that he should not have had access to and kept secret from the rest of the world. And I'm very clear on the fact that he was a human being and fallible just like the rest of us. I knew that he wasn't "pure" because I did happen to run into him backstage at a concert many years ago (and that's all I'll say about that particular meeting). So please don't take our sorrow as a figment of some schoolgirl infatuation crush.

Prince inspired me in my life, and helped me to change the path of my life. He was the only one who made me realize that it was okay to be... well, me. No matter what others might have thought. Although some of his lyrics were, let's say risque, he sang about finding unconditional true love and to end his loneliness. He sang about the kind of love that everyone searches for, but never really finds because I believe it's the love that can only come from God. (Everybody's looking for the ladder) He knew this, but yet we all went on those searches with him, we went on many journeys with him. Exploring him, exploring ourselves, and throwing in a little party time in between the excursions. Prince was a part of many of our lives for many years in a spiritual, magical, mysterious, meaningful way. And i guess waking up every morning knowing that his light, energy, power and spirit are no longer in a physical form to influence change in me, change in the WORLD is beyond heartbreaking. This world needs more love in it, not less. Prince operated on a different vibrational level than most of us. If he didn't, he would not have accomplished all that he did accomplish. He was ONE of kind. There's no one, past. present and probably future who's done what he did. A short, skinny black kid from Minnesota with a name like something you'd read in a fairytale. Mastered every instrument he touched, sang like an Angel, created his own fashion style, fought the evil empire (and won), then created his own recording empire, had his OWN COLOR and his OWN SYMBOL! No... there will never be another one like him. And it's a great, great loss for not just his fans, but for humanity.

This is why I grieve.

I have no doubt that your grief is sincere but attributing to Prince some higher spiritual being or power is delusional. The love symbol was created by graphic designers. It's part of his branding. The love message has been around thousands of years, it's from the book of Leviticus. The dispute with Warner was about control over his music and monetary profits. I could go on but you probably won't be convinced anyway. Anyhow, I suggest you get help. This is not healthy if it interferes with your day to day life.

You are very free with the word delusional. I'd be interested what you mean...because you seem here to be using it in the first instance to mean 'people who have spiritual beleifs I don't agree with'...and you're more than entitled to that belief, and there are a ton of other people who won't or wouldn't concur...including Prince himself. Some people have spiritual experiences other people don't. Some people experience Prince as having been a very spiritually gifted individual. Those are meaningful experiences to those people. I wouldn't be so quick to decide they are unhealthy because you don't experience it that way.

The Love symbol was created to his specifications. The fact he used graphic designers is irrelevant. And you can call it branding if you like, but that's a very cynically dismissive way of approaching the power of symbols. Do you thing the Star of David is part of Judaism's branding? Or is that a weird way to think about it?

And yes, the love message has been around for a long time. As it should be. And?

I could go on as well. A little less judgment and a little more open-mindedness maybe?