Dibblekins said:

I get it.

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I keep telling myself off, saying, 'this is ridiculous; get a grip' but his music; his words; his persona...They touch my soul, and it's both wonderful, and terribly painful.

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I've thrown myself into my work, and I shed my tears in private - but even there I'm embarrassed about them. Why? Why should we feel bad for feeling???

.

You're right, and I don't feel bad about feeling bad anymore. It is what it is and I guess I should just see where it takes me. Still hurts tho...

lucylula said:

phatphuk said:

Yeah. Well. So what if I do weigh 716 lbs and I need to be hoisted from my bed every morning with a Caterpillar forklift?

I can't help it if I'm big-boned :¬(

That still doesn't change the fact that a lot of Prince death "chronic grievers" would be well-advised to partake of the professional mental health services available in their respective communities.

What the O.P. and others have described is not normal behavior.

Prince's obvious musical genius notwithstanding — what's been described is an extraordinarily disproportinate amount of "grieving" over a Pop Idol who you never knew personally. A Pop Idol who never knew — on a personal level — you from Adam.

You might think you're comforting people like that, by mollycoddling them. But you're actually doing them more harm than good by preventing them from getting the help they so clearly would benefit from.

Does such a situation of indulging someone who needs professional help, ring any bells?

As someone who is appropriately qualified in the area of bereavement support I agree that some people would benefit from support from professionals however no one has posted anything that is not "normal" in their expressions of how they feel, or would indicate that there are significant mental health issues that are of concern. We all process grief differently and no one should be made to feel awkward about posting their thoughts on here if they feel the need too. Let's support one another and be mindful of how our words may appear to others who are vulnerable at this time.

Thank you LucyLula! <3

phatphuk said:

jjam said:

"...There is no right or wrong way to grieve..."

True. But there's "grieving" and then there's "over-the-top overreacting".

Indulge me in a little thought experiment...

I know if I died, my mother would grieve for me to the same degree that I would grieve for her if she died.

Such a mutual degree of grieving is eminently fortellable.

Now. If you'd have died when Prince was alive, and if he'd heard about your death in the news, to what degree do you think Prince would grieve for you compared to how you grieve for him?

Phat, I never gave to Prince all that he gave to me, and I'm sure that if I had, he would grieve for me too. Your comment is somewhat silly since Prince has never seen me, or knows that I exist. I would not expect him to grieve for someone he knows NOTHING about. But, I on the other hand, knew plenty about him, felt his emotions, shared his soul and the spirit of his music. So I grieve for what will be missed about him. So... there you have it. It's a "grieve" thing that only goes one way, and I'm okay with that.

Now be a good boy and stop posting silly questions. We still love you tho.

Guitarhero said:

<3 O(=>

Leslita said:

DiamondStarr said:

Never have I felt this way about any other famous person who's passed on...

Common sense tells me that is was just his time to leave, but that still doesn't make the tears stop...

...I've cried more over this man whom I've never met, than I have over my own family members that have passed. What the hell is wrong with me??

What the hell is wrong with you? You're a weirdo and a freak... just like me, heh heh! I think I've used almost your exact words to my friends and family when I've tried to explain to them how I feel about our dearly beloved checking out on us so soon.

Today, exactly five months down the line, I feel like I'm finaly starting to surface from my grieving period. Having said that, I think I'm okay one minute, but then, like others have said, I'll watch a video or listen very intently to his voice on a song and my heart feels fit to burst again and the tears flow.

I've tried very hard to think of an artist who is still with us who can even hold a candle to Prince, and there isn't a single one. In comparison, even the biggest names in the music business pale into mediocrity.

Leslita, strange but I tried to do the same thing. I tried to find some other artist that I could get into that might help ease the pain a bit and after about a day and half of trying to come up with someone... there was not one, not a single act, band or singer that could fill that hole. So that route to "healing" didn't work out so well for me. Still thinking on this one.

Thank you for being a fellow freirdo (Freak + Weirdo = Freirdo)

I just hope I start coming out of this funk soon. It's not conducent to my social connections - they do think I've lost my marbles.

MysticalChick said:

roxy831 said:

Yeah, NO....I'm not dredging up old grief. Thanks for the false diagnosis, tho.

Okay, was just speaking from my experience and what I've seen in others I've talked to. Don't need to be snippy about it. Jeez, people.

It's okay Mystical, I got you're meaning and took it as you meant it. Thanks <3

jayseajay said:

I feel closer to him too. When he went the leaves of the tree blew, and everyone who was open to it got one...and yes, it's been terribly painful, and also incredibly enlivening and transformative...and I know lots and lots of people have felt it

THIS. Yes. So beautiful. thank you

DiamondStarr said:

MysticalChick said:

Okay, was just speaking from my experience and what I've seen in others I've talked to. Don't need to be snippy about it. Jeez, people.

It's okay Mystical, I got you're meaning and took it as you meant it. Thanks <3

DS, he was basically telling us to 'call a shrink.' Good YOU understood MC's 'thoughts' while he said that shit.

roxy831 said:

DiamondStarr said:

It's okay Mystical, I got you're meaning and took it as you meant it. Thanks <3

DS, he was basically telling us to 'call a shrink.' Good YOU understood MC's 'thoughts' while he said that shit.

I don't think it was meant like that, or that's not how I read it...something bringing up pain from the past isn't necessarily a reason to call a shrink, it's an opportunity to do some emotional clearing, and that's usually a good thing...because Prince touched people deeply, his death has enabled some people to get in touch with stuff maybe they haven't been able to get to in other ways...that was certainly true for me, which was why I agreed with the comment...and like it was suggested Lyght2, we can look at that as a gift, even though its been a painful one...feeling pain isn't necessarily bad or unhealthy, sometimes not feeling pain is much worse and leads to a much less healthy place...Oh Prince

jayseajay said:

roxy831 said:

DS, he was basically telling us to 'call a shrink.' Good YOU understood MC's 'thoughts' while he said that shit.

I don't think it was meant like that, or that's not how I read it...something bringing up pain from the past isn't necessarily a reason to call a shrink, it's an opportunity to do some emotional clearing, and that's usually a good thing...because Prince touched people deeply, his death has enabled some people to get in touch with stuff maybe they haven't been able to get to in other ways...that was certainly true for me, which was why I agreed with the comment...and like it was suggested Lyght2, we can look at that as a gift, even though its been a painful one...feeling pain isn't necessarily bad or unhealthy, sometimes not feeling pain is much worse and leads to a much less healthy place...Oh Prince

I feel what U R saying, but that's not how he put it....period. I too have gotten in touch on a deeper level with my relationships, both spiritual and physical since P's death, but hell if someone comes to us sayin' we need "professional help." Bull...There's too many of us feeling the same thing, therefore this is an anomaly, not to be compared to 'his' experience.

roxy831 said:

jayseajay said:

I don't think it was meant like that, or that's not how I read it...something bringing up pain from the past isn't necessarily a reason to call a shrink, it's an opportunity to do some emotional clearing, and that's usually a good thing...because Prince touched people deeply, his death has enabled some people to get in touch with stuff maybe they haven't been able to get to in other ways...that was certainly true for me, which was why I agreed with the comment...and like it was suggested Lyght2, we can look at that as a gift, even though its been a painful one...feeling pain isn't necessarily bad or unhealthy, sometimes not feeling pain is much worse and leads to a much less healthy place...Oh Prince

I feel what U R saying, but that's not how he put it....period. I too have gotten in touch on a deeper level with my relationships, both spiritual and physical since P's death, but hell if someone comes to us sayin' we need "professional help." Bull...There's too many of us feeling the same thing, therefore this is an anomaly, not to be compared to 'his' experience.

Dupe

[Edited 9/21/16 19:43pm]

jayseajay said:

roxy831 said:

I feel what U R saying, but that's not how he put it....period. I too have gotten in touch on a deeper level with my relationships, both spiritual and physical since P's death, but hell if someone comes to us sayin' we need "professional help." Bull...There's too many of us feeling the same thing, therefore this is an anomaly, not to be compared to 'his' experience.

I think maybe there's crossed wires. Phatphuk said that (and hopefully enough people told him he was being unhelpful) but I thought the comment you were responding to from MysticChick didn't suggest anything about needing a shrink...Maybe I'm confused. But yes, I totally agree with you, way too many of us have had such an intense experience about this, its not anomalous. I really think something very powerful happened when P left...

MysticalChick said:

While I am new to THESE boards, I am not new to online communities and yet, I am always taken aback at how nasty people can be.

Why is there a need to belittle people, telling them their feelings are wrong or their grief requires medical attention? Why is there a need to scoff at beliefs that are different from yours?

There's discussion and there's just basically shitting all over someone and I see a lot of the latter on these boards and I don't understand that at all. People are sad for a lot of reasons, none of them require your judgement. Why not allow people to share without fear of being made fun of?

People react to their own "conceptions" Mystical Chick...

Prince said it...

"Peoples opinions say more about them than they do about me"

Some people on these Forums are still NEW to learning how to LOVE ,

You can easliy see who these people are by the way they like to use hurtful words to prove their point.

Some of them even like to deliberately disturb others by being contrary for the sake of it.

These are the people who Need the MOST love and affection ,

they are hurting deeply and are too proud to reveal their vulnerabilities so they act all Smart and Tough

but on the inside they are like little lost kittens....

[Edited 9/21/16 23:30pm]

jayseajay said:

1Sasha said:

But this man who was so inclusive, who cared so much about the fams and his world, for him to die alone, from a drug overdose, as if he had no one and trusted no one to help him ... That is heartwrenching for me.

That's the thing that really breaks me as well.

Me too

Somebody asked me the other day, if I could go back and tell my younger self anything, what would it be. And the answer that came to mind was, I'd give up that chance (meh, I was stubborn and probably wouldn't have listened anyway) if I could go back and tell young P not to leap off any damn 6 ft risers in high heels. and that there's no shame in asking for help when you're in pain.

I didn't actually say that out loud at the time. But I figure you guys get it. most of you anyway.

Diamondstarr...

The pain of seperation reminds us of our Beloved...

Its a bittersweet kind of feeling.

As I said below..

I enjoy the pain now, rather than wishing it away.

I embrace it rather than reject it.

It keeps him Close and in some way reminds me that maybe if I could feel the same way about GOD then,

maybe just maybe I will find my way Back Home too...

DiamondStarr said:

You described the feeling almost to a tee. Thank you - now I know my feelings are real, and that others are going through this, this... "healing" process. It sux, but maybe it is something I'm just going to have to ride out. But when will that be?? I'm sick of hurting and bawling when I hear certain songs, read articles, see pictures, and write posts (such as this). This is crazy and you say there's more I've yet to go through?!?

I've been serious about my spiritual journey for quite some time now. There's not any confusion there. I just want to get past his death.

Lovejunky said:

You are definately NOT alone...

There are many people experiencing his loss in deep and profound ways...

He is NOT An ordainairy human being...Thats Clear to me now...

Many people describe a feeling in their Gut like being Love sick...

Like when your dearly beloved is away from you and you pine for them...

Its coupled with seperation pain that sits on the edge of almost hurting so much that you could throw up...

and then there is the melancholy.....

He is gone, but he seems more alive then ever....

I have come to a stage where I actually enjoy the bitter sweet feelings...

I have been inspired to look within, and get serious about my spiritual journey...

Just as he did...

[Edited 9/20/16 17:15pm]

Beautiful thoughts, insights and sentiments...Lyght2

Makes it so much easier to view things from this perspective.

He was steaming qualities of the 5th dimension- LOVE in all forms including sexual and spiritual, joy, fun, childlike, creative, being in the now, peace, soverignty. . That vibe that he was streaming- now streams from my heart - through him.

100 Times YES....

Lyght2 said:

You are not alone at all.

I just wrote this somewhere else and I share here as well.

It is 5 months later and still in a great deal of pain. Prince's death has fundamentally changed me. Oddly enough I think his death so unexpected and heartbreaking was another of his gifts to us. Everyone was changed.

It greatly expanded my heart chakra. The pain was intense and spiraled down to the deepest center of my heart and kind of burst it open. A physical pain. He feels like part of the DNA in my heart now. I can't separate him.

In not being able to separate him, or let him go, I realize I don't have to. He's in my heart in literal way. Like he's going to live there forever ALIVE as he ever was. And in many ways I feel so much closer to him than before because he's always with me.

He was steaming qualities of the 5th dimension- LOVE in all forms including sexual and spiritual, joy, fun, childlike, creative, being in the now, peace, soverignty. . That vibe that he was streaming- now streams from my heart - through him.

He was/is much more than a regular soul. He had a great spiritual purpose and fulfilled it. His last gift- the pain that causes our hearts to transform. If you are in any way metaphysical you understand that he was bringing us to exactly where gaia is going- 5D.

I'm so greatly humbled by his life, his music and the gifts that he's given that I am overwhelmed with love for him. Daily. I close my eyes and say to him "Namaste, and thank you."

It's exaclty like this photo posted here so beautifully. This little man who came with such a HUGE extraordinary spirit. The tree is the real photo of Prince here.

[Edited 9/21/16 17:41pm]

PeteSilas said:

every day, every single day. why him? why that way? life/god has a cruel sense of irony. I just watched a vid on youtube about paisley park, circa 88, where one guy raved about his work ethic saying he did more in one year than a lot of hardworking artists did in five. just a freak and a force of nature, why him? And if he could get lost somehow, what is the hope for the rest of us schmucks?

"Cuz U and I know we gotta die some day"

roxy831 said:

Lovejunky said:

You are definately NOT alone...

There are many people experiencing his loss in deep and profound ways...

He is NOT An ordainairy human being...Thats Clear to me now...

Many people describe a feeling in their Gut like being Love sick...

Like when your dearly beloved is away from you and you pine for them...

Its coupled with seperation pain that sits on the edge of almost hurting so much that you could throw up...

and then there is the melancholy.....

He is gone, but he seems more alive then ever....

I have come to a stage where I actually enjoy the bitter sweet feelings...

I have been inspired to look within, and get serious about my spiritual journey...

Just as he did...

[Edited 9/20/16 17:15pm]

THIS^^^^! Exactly how I describe my grief. Cried HARD tears for 3 months. August came, and I'm at least strong enough to keep most of my tears from falling. Then today....oh today, grief hit me like a ton of bricks all over again. Let the waves of grief come and return back to the sea over and over again. I've come to a point of acceptance now, and the journey has brought me back to my spiritual connection with God in more ways than one. You are definitely not alone!

Thats the thing isnt it...

Ive always loved Prince Music...but his passing from this earthly realm was what We needed to make us REALLY Listen .

I NOW get that his whole existance on this earth was about harmonising our Humanity with Divinity.

Prince was a Messanger from GOD..I dont care what anyone says..

and Ive said it before but I cant say it enough...

I RAISE my hands in the Air to the most intriguing personality since JESUS

0)+>

Dont die without knowing the Cross

[Edited 9/21/16 23:44pm]

Lovejunky said:

Thats the thing isnt it...

Ive always loved Prince Music...but his passing from this earthly realm was what We needed to make us REALLY Listen .

I NOW get that his whole existance on this earth was about harmonising our Humanity with Divinity.

Prince was a Messanger from GOD..I dont care what anyone says..

and Ive said it before but I cant say it enough...

I RAISE my hands in the Air to the most intriguing personality since JESUS

0)+>

Dont die without knowing the Cross

[Edited 9/21/16 23:44pm]

Namaste Lovejunky. Thank you

Petesilas, you said it all. Why him?

Yes yes yes yes everyone is saying so beautifully exactly what I'm still feeling. It is still horrible and fresh and strikingly personal five months on. I still cry a lot and I am not a crier. This is the only place I can go where I feel understood and welcome and among others who are having this experience of loss, grief and, strangely for me, spirtuality. It's huge.

Lyght2 said:

"...I RAISE my hands in the Air to the most intriguing personality since JESUS..."

Lovejunky said:

"...Messanger from GOD..."

emby said:

"...strangely for me, spirtuality..."

Messianic delusions? "Spirituality"? "Messanger from god"? {sic}

Strangely, indeed!

GET. HELP!

Still hits me at weird times. I just lost it again reading this Maya Rudolph interview and watching the performance. I miss having him in my world.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/express/wp/2016/09/22/maya-rudolphs-prince-approved-prince-cover-band-is-keeping-his-songs-alive/

[Edited 9/22/16 10:29am]

phatphuk said:

jjam said:

"...There is no right or wrong way to grieve..."

True. But there's "grieving" and then there's "over-the-top overreacting".

Indulge me in a little thought experiment...

I know if I died, my mother would grieve for me to the same degree that I would grieve for her if she died.

Such a mutual degree of grieving is eminently fortellable.

Now. If you'd have died when Prince was alive, and if he'd heard about your death in the news, to what degree do you think Prince would grieve for you compared to how you grieve for him?

Wow, this is a bad post. Ignorant, and just bad.

Lyght2 said:

You are not alone at all.

I just wrote this somewhere else and I share here as well.

It is 5 months later and still in a great deal of pain. Prince's death has fundamentally changed me. Oddly enough I think his death so unexpected and heartbreaking was another of his gifts to us. Everyone was changed.

It greatly expanded my heart chakra. The pain was intense and spiraled down to the deepest center of my heart and kind of burst it open. A physical pain. He feels like part of the DNA in my heart now. I can't separate him.

In not being able to separate him, or let him go, I realize I don't have to. He's in my heart in literal way. Like he's going to live there forever ALIVE as he ever was. And in many ways I feel so much closer to him than before because he's always with me.

He was steaming qualities of the 5th dimension- LOVE in all forms including sexual and spiritual, joy, fun, childlike, creative, being in the now, peace, soverignty. . That vibe that he was streaming- now streams from my heart - through him.

He was/is much more than a regular soul. He had a great spiritual purpose and fulfilled it. His last gift- the pain that causes our hearts to transform. If you are in any way metaphysical you understand that he was bringing us to exactly where gaia is going- 5D.

I'm so greatly humbled by his life, his music and the gifts that he's given that I am overwhelmed with love for him. Daily. I close my eyes and say to him "Namaste, and thank you."

It's exaclty like this photo posted here so beautifully. This little man who came with such a HUGE extraordinary spirit. The tree is the real photo of Prince here.

[Edited 9/21/16 17:41pm]

Your post reminds me of what my sister said when we went to a Prince concert, "His presence fills up the whole stage."

That photo above is Astonishing looks like Heaven on Earth!

IsufferfromMPS said:

luvgirl said:

IsufferfromMPS said:

All the above. At least here I don't feel like Im losing it or something is wrong with me. People here are feeling the same way. I have spent 37yrs adoring this man and he's gone. I will always miss him. It will get easier as time goes on im sure, but it is what it is for right now. Prince was more than just a entertainer, cant really describe it but its something powerful. That's very evident in the fact that there are so many still feeling this way 5mos later

So true. I don't even understand it. Why am I still grieving for his man that I've never met. It freaks me out sometimes, the share heartache of it all, but boy am I glad that he has so many music out there, and videos, and everything else that is purple, so that I not only have the grief, but that I can celebrate his life too, which I think balances out the pain.

Prince was a powerful presence while here. I'm starting to feel better dealing with the grief, but can still tear up at the drop of a hat. I'm thinking my grief is from how much I allowed him to be a part of my life, especially in the formidable years of pre-teens. Every event in my life, I can place one of his songs with it. I stopped paying attention to him several years ago, but once he died, I realized he was ALWAYS with me. I always had a picture of him somewhere in the house, I always saw his tapes, CDs, and videos in my tv cabinet. Even everyday tasks had a hint of him in it. Everything....