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Why did 'Gold' (the single) flop in North America? I was surprised to note the failure of 'Gold' on both the US mainstream and R&B charts! It reached a dismal #88 on the US charts, and fared even worse on the R&B chart. . Given Prince's P.R. issues that was starting at the time, his oversaturation of the market, and the rise of slow-jam R&B and mainstream hip-hop, I'm not surprised that 'Gold' wasn't a huge #1 or whatever, but I would have expected it to get some radio/MTV support (it had a glossy, easily digestible video) being that it was such an obviously strong song with easy hooks and a fairly maintream sound. It came out only a year after 'The Most Beautiful Girl...' had been an international smash, too. . It was a top-10 in the UK and top-20 in some European markets, which would seem to me to have been a logical chart-placing in the US, too. But instead it completely flopped. Why? | |
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I was also kinda surprised it didn't fare better. It is a big song that has 'hit' written all over it. I guess Prince's feud with WB made them decide not to give it the song the big commercial push. RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time... | |
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I'm surprised Gold wasn't as big as Purple Rain. It's just as great as Purple Rain is...for me atleast. | |
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It was really a hard time for songs that weren't hip hop tio get played during that era. I also wonder if it had been the first single rather than follow Hate U, if it might have been played. Hate U was too far removed from anything on top 40, so they played it a few times and apparently stopped quickly due to negative listener reaction. Once a song from an album fails on radio, the stations are more resistant to playing the next single. Interestingly Hate U, with it's soufulness was more appropriate than the poppish Gold for R & B stations, where it was a top 5 hit! | |
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PurpleColossus said: I'm surprised Gold wasn't as big as Purple Rain. It's just as great as Purple Rain is...for me atleast. I disagree. If it were the case, Prince would b playing it regularly at his concerts like one of his B-sides that were never a hit but considered classic. "Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."
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I don't think it has "hit" written all over it. It's not danceable like Gett Off, it's not a singalong like Purple Rain, it doesn't capture the zeitgeist like 1999 did... If it was a hit in the UK and Holland (something like # 20 I think), that was mostly because he had toured here. He was very visible in England and Holland in 1995, but mostly out of he picture in the USA. And of course the whole TAFKAP thing didn't help. | |
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rainbowchild said: PurpleColossus said: I'm surprised Gold wasn't as big as Purple Rain. It's just as great as Purple Rain is...for me atleast. I disagree. If it were the case, Prince would b playing it regularly at his concerts like one of his B-sides that were never a hit but considered classic. He did revive it in 2011-12. | |
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True .. there was a lot to contend with during that time period.. Prince was great for romance and getting it in. But day to day we were rolling biggie - Tupac- Kelly - etc.. they were at the height of their game then .. and honestly he was a bit weird then ~Live Free ... Be Wyld~AlwaysOnlyMakeBelieve - LiveUrLyfe... laissez le bon temps rouler...vivre sans être sauvage...हमेशा ही बना विश्वास ~Change and do so CONSTANTLY... | |
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Gold, like other said is a cheesier version of Purple Rain. Dolphin, however, was just out there. Made me chuckle the first time I heard it performed in one of the late night shows. Not a fan of the album, in general. "Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."
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He was at war with his record company. There is no 'hit' without label support. Also the song was a bit cliche - he had done similar enough sounding songs better previously in his career. Also it can't be overstated, he was not 'Prince' anymore, he was so the general public were | |
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Name change. Obscure album. No label to promote it. Take your pick. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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mynameisnotsusan said: He was at war with his record company. There is no 'hit' without label support. Also the song was a bit cliche - he had done similar enough sounding songs better previously in his career. Also it can't be overstated, he was not 'Prince' anymore, he was so the general public were That didn't stop him from having a hit with The Most Beautiful Girl In The World. But that was a catchy tune that everybody could understand and relate to. And that also was before he went to war with his record company. And as that whole thing dragged on, the album suffered. It came out more than a year after the hit single that should have sold it and by that time nobody, including The Artist, cared anymore. Who knows, if Gold had been released right after Beautiful Girl, it might have done better. | |
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Exactly.Because of Prince's feud with Warners,that song (and the album itself) didn't get the full promotion and attention that it deserved.
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and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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There it is. | |
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IstenSzek said:
Lol.. not a true typo.. it's a saying 😋 https://youtu.be/ghR6dsIZatM ~Live Free ... Be Wyld~AlwaysOnlyMakeBelieve - LiveUrLyfe... laissez le bon temps rouler...vivre sans être sauvage...हमेशा ही बना विश्वास ~Change and do so CONSTANTLY... | |
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When Prince was sent to the R&B division of Warner Brothers it changed the way his music was marketed. It also cut his fan base.
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love the song! IMO: 1 - Radio didn't play 2 - People didn't buy it 3 - Enough people didn't want to listen to it 4- Record company didn't want to promote it 5 - Prince didn't give a shit what it did.. | |
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Let's focus on the song. It's farcical and over the top in a way that alienates. Otherwise - Prince seemed to be obsessed with besting the standard set by Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody which had received a bump from Wayne's World at the time. Not a good look for him, IMO. | |
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Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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That was more with 3 Chains Of Gold then Gold. Gold was trying to channel Purple Rain transcendency. | |
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Gee, what's going to do better on the radio, a singalong about how girls are beautiful or a preachy tune? | |
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Folks its a matter of two things:
1. At that time the only people who understood the name change was Prince and diehard fans. The general public let their own perceptions and misunderstandings of it get in the way of the music. "You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013 | |
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"Gold" is an awesome song...but it was never going to be heavily played on R&B radio. IMO, A better track for R&B radio from the album would've been something like "Billy Jack Bitch" (edited, of course) or "Now". I do remember ATL R&B stations playing the hell out of "I Hate U" & they started playing the TGE version of "Shhh" as well during that time period. But "Gold" definitely could've been a hit on adult Pop/Rock stations if it was promoted properly. [Edited 9/25/16 8:59am] Exiles of the Nation
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It was a minor hit in the UK (reached the top 10 if I recall). I remember quite a few non-fans liking this song at the time. Other than TMBGITW, I would say it's Prince's most fondly-remembered song from the 90s in the UK.
As for North America, well, I'm not North American, so fudge knows.... | |
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bam In France they have a saying that with "if" you can put Paris in a bottle because "if" Paris had been a little smaller and"if" the bottle had been a little larger, then... | |
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I think "319" would have been a perfect single.It would have done well on R&B and pop stations,I think.I consider it to be the "Kiss" of the 90s | |
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In America, we have a saying of make my funk the p funk, I wants ta gets funked up. | |
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