LyraB said:

panpac777 said:

The media bs can kiss my fat white ass! Layer apron layer of filth just to try and confuse us! They must think we r stupid! This story chaos and disorder! Because we r catching on to the truth and they have no choice than to spin such backwards bs! First it's flu then it's shoot up fentinyl now it's pills instead? Make up ur freakin mind already cause we know it's bs anyway! It's almost like prince himself it's laughing up a storm trying to make fans think he would put clothes on backwards! Monkeys just flew out my but too! [Edited 8/22/16 22:14pm]

Where did it ever say it was "shoot up" fentanyl" anywhere in the press or in official statements?

And the claims about 'flu came from |prince's own camp to explain why he cancelled those concerts. Nothing to do with the press apart from the fact that they reported what they were told.

It was reported that Prince died of a "self-administered" fentanyl over dose -it did not say be what means or route did it? This was a direct quote from the police and given as cause of death on his death certificate.

There was plenty of speculation on here at the time about what form of fentanyl it was - even some suggestions that he was sucking on fentanyl lollipops which seemed ridicuoius to me at the time.

That speculation was based upon the legally licensed products. If some on here suggested he was injecting that has nothing to do with the press - I thought he must have been using the patches.

I have to say adulterated illicit tablets made to look like another product altogether never even entered my head.

However, I do not see why that is BS, several people have posted that there is a genuine issue with adulterated tablets and that several people have died across the US in recent months - so why is it BS?

dr drew seemed to think that he either sucked on the patches or took a syringe to them. It sounds like he may not have used fentanyl regularly, first because of the od and then because of his death. Still don't get the carelessness not to mention the illicit use of drugs. You'd think with his attitude towards illegal drugs he would have at least went through the trouble of doctor shopping.

PeteSilas said:

LyraB said:

dr drew seemed to think that he either sucked on the patches or took a syringe to them. It sounds like he may not have used fentanyl regularly, first because of the od and then because of his death. Still don't get the carelessness not to mention the illicit use of drugs. You'd think with his attitude towards illegal drugs he would have at least went through the trouble of doctor shopping.

Ah, thanks. He was probably dping what I did - looking at what products containing fentanyl were available.

BIB.I do wonder if that was precisely why he was so secretive - illicitly obtained tablets hidden in innocuous containers for stuff like vitamin C etc. - because he couldn't bear the thought of anyone external like a doctor knowing that he had a problem after all that he had said?

I am utterly bemused that counterfeit drugs which already contain an opiate are adulterated with something as potent as fentanyl - why would you even do that? What is the point in potentially killing your customers?

LuxLove said:

Synergy said:

Two of the band mates (can't remember the names, sorry) said in an interview They knew Prince had started having seizures again (thus, the need for xanax, which is what I also take for seizures) and had a heart murmur. I was told he was severely anemic, white blood count was very high. He couldn't hold down food, so mostly drank smoothies or shakes,if that. IE.Phone: There is a land line in his office off the main studio on the second floor,his bedroom was also there on the second floor off that same studio. He sent out a few business emails and personal messages that night, so he did make it to his office or bedroom and to his laptop. I don't know, this is so fn disturbing. He messaged me the Thursday afternoon of the plane landing, in the afternoon, just after I heard. He said he was fine, not to worry about him... he was going to be OK. He told me to go rest, he was worried I'd have a seizure. He told me he loved me and to know that he would always be here for me and, again, he would be fine. Then, He asked that I make sure to tell the family (fans) how much he loved them and to thank them for him. That just left me more alarmed, but he kept insisting he was going to be OK.

Who the F is Synergy, where is this above taken from ?

LyraB said:

PeteSilas said:

dr drew seemed to think that he either sucked on the patches or took a syringe to them. It sounds like he may not have used fentanyl regularly, first because of the od and then because of his death. Still don't get the carelessness not to mention the illicit use of drugs. You'd think with his attitude towards illegal drugs he would have at least went through the trouble of doctor shopping.

Ah, thanks. He was probably dping what I did - looking at what products containing fentanyl were available.

BIB.I do wonder if that was precisely why he was so secretive - illicitly obtained tablets hidden in innocuous containers for stuff like vitamin C etc. - because he couldn't bear the thought of anyone external like a doctor knowing that he had a problem after all that he had said?

I am utterly bemused that counterfeit drugs which already contain an opiate are adulterated with something as potent as fentanyl - why would you even do that? What is the point in potentially killing your customers?

I once told a friend who did some illegal shit that it's hard enough getting things done right in the legit world, it's damn near impossible to not have everything all fucked up in the illegal world.

oscarchristio777 said:

LuxLove said:

Towards the end of part 1. No idea who she is.

morningsong said:

morningsong said:

What I want to know is, who stole his shoes?!!! Had to be a woman right? And who put his clothes on backwards?!?! Probably the same person who stole his shoes. This is all very confusing

Too many questions.
I really think people are gonna start talking.

oscarchristio777 said:

At the end of the day, no matter how much we debate Prince's final moments, I think we can all honestly say he had NO ONE in his life who loved him enough to be with him, to walk the journey by his side. Everyone around him was essentially a paid hanger-on. Don't tell me family was there. Don't say the 20 or 30 year-old women he had around him. Now, there will be people here who will says the fams would have taken care of him, but he didn't know us. I am talking about someone he knew in his heart. Someone who didn't need or want anything from him. That is gut-wrenching to me. Fame, money, power and NO ONE who loved him enough.

Y'all forgot about LoveEcstacy in 1988. Kinda says it all in terms of whether Prince fux with drugs recreationaly. Also the Purple Prowler rumour from a.m.p. at a known drug house. "I am open to all experiences" when asked does he fux with da drugs. "I HAVE BEEN TRANSFORMED" after the plane OD. I think it's plausible that he dabbled with pills over the years.

It keeps being said that if P was seriously ill, why wasn't he under a doctor, taking legitimate medication...

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What if he (P) hadn't gone to a doctor about his symptoms, up until April (Dr S)???

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What if he was in denial about being ill and didn't want medical confirmation and it was only in April that he had things investigated?

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What if he was attempting to self-medicate; the 'supposed' OD on the plane wasn't *just* an OD but part of some hidden illness, and that Judith's finally managing to convince him to see a doctor was both for withdrawal (from the self-administered meds) AND to manage any illness he might have..?

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What if nobody knew he was ill, and he was going to attend rehab just to appease them all, knowing all the while that he had a condition none of them knew about???

Dibblekins said:

funksterr said:

rogifan said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:

rogifan said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:

I agree with your last statement 100%

I always chuckled reading his tweets thinking man, someone needs to teach you how to use Twitter.

rogifan said:

funksterr said:

Y'all forgot about LoveEcstacy in 1988. Kinda says it all in terms of whether Prince fux with drugs recreationaly. Also the Purple Prowler rumour from a.m.p. at a known drug house. "I am open to all experiences" when asked does he fux with da drugs. "I HAVE BEEN TRANSFORMED" after the plane OD. I think it's plausible that he dabbled with pills over the years.

That I have been transformed tweet was not something Prince said, he was tweeting something a concert goer said after a P&M show. If you go through his Twitter feed you'll see he (or whomever was posting from his account) wasn't proficient on how to re-tweet stuff. They'd just copy somebody's comments into a new tweet which made it look like it was his tweet. And as much as people might be grasping at straws with all the foul play stuff I'd say the same for those suggesting he was a recreational user.

Fair enough about the retweet.

Still.. it has long been said by 'those in the know' that leak shit to the org and other places that Prince had a pill problem. I always thought they were talking anti-depressants, but that is probably not the case, in light of his passing.

Mkilpatrick74 said:

Dibblekins said:

It keeps being said that if P was seriously ill, why wasn't he under a doctor, taking legitimate medication...

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What if he (P) hadn't gone to a doctor about his symptoms, up until April (Dr S)???

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What if he was in denial about being ill and didn't want medical confirmation and it was only in April that he had things investigated?

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What if he was attempting to self-medicate; the 'supposed' OD on the plane wasn't *just* an OD but part of some hidden illness, and that Judith's finally managing to convince him to see a doctor was both for withdrawal (from the self-administered meds) AND to manage any illness he might have..?

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What if nobody knew he was ill, and he was going to attend rehab just to appease them all, knowing all the while that he had a condition none of them knew about???

My dad hated doctors. Refused to see s doctor in his adult life. The last year of his life we knew something was wrong but he would not go. He self medicated the pain in his back. Finally he went and it was end stage liver cancer. did biopsy and closed him right back up BC it had spread thru his body. They gave us 6 months tops but he lived only 4 weeks. Just saying that people do that.....it's not out of the realm of possibilities

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My Dad was exactly the same; carried on working, etc...He hid all his symptoms until he reached a crisis and was found collapsed on the bedroom floor. End-stage bladder cancer - passed within 4 weeks.

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I'm not saying P necessarily had cancer - but there really is a dullness / a sallowness to his skin; he wasn't able to swallow without pain (apparently); he had an 'incident' on the 'plane which doesn't neccesarily sound like an OD (and the content of the pills he was carrying don't seem to have been found in tests performed before his death, ie fentanyl). We now hear 'talk' of possible seizures recurring...

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I'm not saying he wasn't self-medicating / using pain-killers - it seems most likely that he was; the question is WHY; why was he seemingly hiding them and making every effort to appear perfectly fine and dandy, when he should have been resting? Was it really just a straightforward addiction, with nothing else being concealed (by him)? Possibly...But something must have caused him to start taking meds in the first place; something that seemed to get worse in recent months...

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Sighhh...Miss you, P - so much.

[Edited 8/23/16 5:12am]

It's said there's always something to make you laugh at a funeral. For me it was Tyka Nelson munching on cheetos

FunkiestOne said:

sonshine said:

Someone should have been with him. Someone who could administer Narcan if necessary. That was my first thought after we knew how he died, and t keeps coming back to that. People knew he was in crisis. He od'd days before. Especially if someone with knowledge of that was also someone who was helping him get pills they for sure should have had a safety net in place. [Edited 8/22/16 22:52pm]

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Maybe he didn't allow that. It's not like Kirk could punch Prince in the face and make him allow someone to be there with a shot ready.

That's the part that so many can't seem to grasp. If Prince didn't want anyone around, no one was going to be with him. End of story.

2elijah said:

oscarchristio777 said:

If it's the Synergy I think it is, then "Hi Synergy, longtime no see.Good to see you." Not sure if that's her. If she responds back, then I know that is her. If not, then it was just a guess. I remember a fan named Synergy, when she was a fan on Prince's NPGmusic club when it was around. I think it's the same Synergy that was part of that Emancipation radio show also. I think fans from the NPG music club would remember her there. Although her pic on her avatar looks very different from the pic I saw of her from back then with brunette hair. If it's her, she would recognize some of the usernames of former members here that was part of the music club Prince had.

Yes, I remember that Synergy. That's who I thought she was when I saw her post.

PeteSilas said:

laurarichardson said:

PeteSilas said:

dr drew seemed to think that he either sucked on the patches or took a syringe to them. It sounds like he may not have used fentanyl regularly, first because of the od and then because of his death. Still don't get the carelessness not to mention the illicit use of drugs. You'd think with his attitude towards illegal drugs he would have at least went through the trouble of doctor shopping.

--- Dr Drew is an asshat. The ME is saying he was not a user of Fentynal. The can tell from the test the ME ran. That is why they are saying it was accidental and if their is a criminal case the whole case will hinge on that. I think Prince had an Rx at one time got cut off and then decided he would get it from the streets. I don't think people realize that if was in pain getting off the meds will not make your pain go away. Would he have been able to work? Plus he had heart meds and anti-seziures meds. He was not a well man.

I don't think he was prescribed the ladocaine. It was part of the mixture of the counterfeit pills.

rogifan said:

According to this website: https://medlineplus.gov/anemia.html

Conditions that may lead to anemia include Heavy periods Pregnancy Ulcers Colon polyps or colon cancer Inherited disorders A diet that does not have enough iron, folic acid or vitamin B12 Blood disorders such as sickle cell anemia and thalassemia, or cancer Aplastic anemia, a condition that can be inherited or acquired G6PD deficiency, a metabolic disorder Anemia can make you feel tired, cold, dizzy, and irritable. You may be short of breath or have a headache.

If he was anemic it makes me wonder if he did have some illness. It would explain some of the photos we've seen where he had lots of clothes on, gloves, etc. like those photos of him getting off the plane for that private party he played on New Year's Eve. I refuse to believe he looked the way he did in 2016 just because of the pills he was taking. And why was he taking these pills in the first place? For shits and giggles? I don't think so. And don't be condescending saying those of us who feel this way näive or whatever. If he had been taking them for a long time (which I also don't believe) why did his physical appearance only really start to degrade in the last year or so of his life? Again that's assuming the pills are the reason he looked like he did, as some have suggested. It doesn't make sense.

I agree with everything you said.

Dibblekins said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:

Dibblekins said:

It keeps being said that if P was seriously ill, why wasn't he under a doctor, taking legitimate medication...

.

What if he (P) hadn't gone to a doctor about his symptoms, up until April (Dr S)???

.

What if he was in denial about being ill and didn't want medical confirmation and it was only in April that he had things investigated?

.

What if he was attempting to self-medicate; the 'supposed' OD on the plane wasn't *just* an OD but part of some hidden illness, and that Judith's finally managing to convince him to see a doctor was both for withdrawal (from the self-administered meds) AND to manage any illness he might have..?

.

What if nobody knew he was ill, and he was going to attend rehab just to appease them all, knowing all the while that he had a condition none of them knew about???

My dad hated doctors. Refused to see s doctor in his adult life. The last year of his life we knew something was wrong but he would not go. He self medicated the pain in his back. Finally he went and it was end stage liver cancer. did biopsy and closed him right back up BC it had spread thru his body. They gave us 6 months tops but he lived only 4 weeks. Just saying that people do that.....it's not out of the realm of possibilities

I so sorry about your dad. I know that's a hard spot to be in for everyone - the patient and the loved ones who want the person to get help but they just won't. My heart goes out to you.

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And yes, people who have trust and/or control issues (and we know Prince did), or who maybe just have a phobia about medical doctors can go to extremes to avoid doctors and anything medical. I have been guilty of it myself and avoided doctors for much longer than I should have at times due to anxiety and fear, not wanting to hear more 'bad news'. It happens.