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Pills seized from Paisley Park contained illicit fentanyl, same drug that killed Prince - Part 2

Since the 1st thread is waaayyyy soooo many pages long........ it's time to start a new thread.

1st thread - http://prince.org/msg/7/431071


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Reply #1 posted 08/22/16 10:07pm

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Oh.
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Reply #2 posted 08/22/16 10:11pm

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The media bs can kiss my fat white ass! Layer apron layer of filth just to try and confuse us! They must think we r stupid! This story chaos and disorder! Because we r catching on to the truth and they have no choice than to spin such backwards bs! First it's flu then it's shoot up fentinyl now it's pills instead? Make up ur freakin mind already cause we know it's bs anyway!
It's almost like prince himself it's laughing up a storm trying to make fans think he would put clothes on backwards! Monkeys just flew out my but too!
[Edited 8/22/16 22:14pm]
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Reply #3 posted 08/22/16 10:16pm

SheLovesMeNot

I knew, we all knew Prince would never risk his own life by taking drugs especially illegal drugs. Prince loved himself and his charities way too much to have left without a Will. He never had a chance and as the days go by without him it just gets more sad. If only he had a cell phone that when the drug took it's affect on him while in the elevator he could've called for help.
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Reply #4 posted 08/22/16 10:33pm

Dimitri10

We better get used to hearing all the possibilties, its going to do our heads in for ever unless his people speak up and put it to rest, the only thing that upsets me is, and I'll keep saying it - the warning signs were there, the cancelled Atlanta shows, emergency landing, the unusaul behaviour that week leading into his death. If only he took it as a sign as a second chance in life.

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Reply #5 posted 08/22/16 10:51pm

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Someone should have been with him. Someone who could administer Narcan if necessary. That was my first thought after we knew how he died, and t keeps coming back to that. People knew he was in crisis. He od'd days before. Especially if someone with knowledge of that was also someone who was helping him get pills they for sure should have had a safety net in place.
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Reply #6 posted 08/22/16 10:52pm

ladygirl99

I am going to sit back and to continue to listen and watch as more ppl will talk. I have a feeling the truth is going to come out eventually. I am NOT buying the junkie NOR the murder narratives.

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Reply #7 posted 08/22/16 10:55pm

Jessica55

Why did it take 4 months to figure this out? It doesn't seem it would take that long to test the pills they confiscated in April.

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Reply #8 posted 08/22/16 11:22pm

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sonshine said:

Someone should have been with him. Someone who could administer Narcan if necessary. That was my first thought after we knew how he died, and t keeps coming back to that. People knew he was in crisis. He od'd days before. Especially if someone with knowledge of that was also someone who was helping him get pills they for sure should have had a safety net in place. [Edited 8/22/16 22:52pm]

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Maybe he didn't allow that. It's not like Kirk could punch Prince in the face and make him allow someone to be there with a shot ready.

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Reply #9 posted 08/22/16 11:27pm

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yeahthat

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Reply #10 posted 08/22/16 11:41pm

morningsong

Is Narcan something you can just go purchase or do you need special education or licenses to do that?
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Reply #11 posted 08/22/16 11:42pm

LuxLove

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Two of the band mates (can't remember the names, sorry) said in an interview They knew Prince had started having seizures again (thus, the need for xanax, which is what I also take for seizures) and had a heart murmur. I was told he was severely anemic, white blood count was very high. He couldn't hold down food, so mostly drank smoothies or shakes,if that. IE.Phone: There is a land line in his office off the main studio on the second floor,his bedroom was also there on the second floor off that same studio. He sent out a few business emails and personal messages that night, so he did make it to his office or bedroom and to his laptop. I don't know, this is so fn disturbing. He messaged me the Thursday afternoon of the plane landing, in the afternoon, just after I heard. He said he was fine, not to worry about him... he was going to be OK. He told me to go rest, he was worried I'd have a seizure. He told me he loved me and to know that he would always be here for me and, again, he would be fine. Then, He asked that I make sure to tell the family (fans) how much he loved them and to thank them for him. That just left me more alarmed, but he kept insisting he was going to be OK.



Can you give more details about this interview- where was it & when, link perhaps? Which band were the band members from 3EG NPG what??
Who told you about his health?

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Reply #12 posted 08/22/16 11:53pm

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Something ain't right... its all adding up.... I think its more to come. Can I get witness maryam40!!!

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Reply #13 posted 08/22/16 11:58pm

PeteSilas

does anyone believe that Jill Jones really posted on the last thread or that this new one who claims to know him is real? It's the internet so scepticism is always good.

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Reply #14 posted 08/23/16 12:04am

LuxLove

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does anyone believe that Jill Jones really posted on the last thread or that this new one who claims to know him is real? It's the internet so scepticism is always good.

I don't understand why Jill would make her post friends only given she has thousands and they're not real friends, nor why she didn't reveal this in June when cause of death was made public. I don't understand why people don't take screen shots of these things so we can all see!

As for this new one, I can't even.

[Edited 8/23/16 0:04am]

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Reply #15 posted 08/23/16 12:47am

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FunkiestOne said:

sonshine said:

Someone should have been with him. Someone who could administer Narcan if necessary. That was my first thought after we knew how he died, and t keeps coming back to that. People knew he was in crisis. He od'd days before. Especially if someone with knowledge of that was also someone who was helping him get pills they for sure should have had a safety net in place.

Maybe he didn't allow that. It's not like Kirk could punch Prince in the face and make him allow someone to be there with a shot ready.


Exactly.

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Reply #16 posted 08/23/16 12:53am

Eileen

PeteSilas said:

does anyone believe that Jill Jones really posted on the last thread or that this new one who claims to know him is real? It's the internet so scepticism is always good.


I thought the Jill Jones writing was posted by Jill on one of her facebook accounts, then copied here by an org member. ??

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Reply #17 posted 08/23/16 1:00am

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I asked my friend who is fb friends with JJ & yes, that is a legitimate post from Jill.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #18 posted 08/23/16 1:01am

rogifan

According to this website: https://medlineplus.gov/anemia.html

Conditions that may lead to anemia include

Heavy periods
Pregnancy
Ulcers
Colon polyps or colon cancer
Inherited disorders
A diet that does not have enough iron, folic acid or vitamin B12
Blood disorders such as sickle cell anemia and thalassemia, or cancer
Aplastic anemia, a condition that can be inherited or acquired
G6PD deficiency, a metabolic disorder

Anemia can make you feel tired, cold, dizzy, and irritable. You may be short of breath or have a headache.


If he was anemic it makes me wonder if he did have some illness. It would explain some of the photos we've seen where he had lots of clothes on, gloves, etc. like those photos of him getting off the plane for that private party he played on New Year's Eve. I refuse to believe he looked the way he did in 2016 just because of the pills he was taking. And why was he taking these pills in the first place? For shits and giggles? I don't think so. And don't be condescending saying those of us who feel this way näive or whatever. If he had been taking them for a long time (which I also don't believe) why did his physical appearance only really start to degrade in the last year or so of his life? Again that's assuming the pills are the reason he looked like he did, as some have suggested. It doesn't make sense.
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Reply #19 posted 08/23/16 1:04am

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Jessica55 said:

Why did it take 4 months to figure this out? It doesn't seem it would take that long to test the pills they confiscated in April.


It's just leaking now. Doesn't mean it took them this long to figure it out (assuming this is all legit of course).
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Reply #20 posted 08/23/16 1:26am

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According to this website: https://medlineplus.gov/anemia.html

Conditions that may lead to anemia include

Heavy periods
Pregnancy
Ulcers
Colon polyps or colon cancer
Inherited disorders
A diet that does not have enough iron, folic acid or vitamin B12
Blood disorders such as sickle cell anemia and thalassemia, or cancer
Aplastic anemia, a condition that can be inherited or acquired
G6PD deficiency, a metabolic disorder

Anemia can make you feel tired, cold, dizzy, and irritable. You may be short of breath or have a headache.


If he was anemic it makes me wonder if he did have some illness. It would explain some of the photos we've seen where he had lots of clothes on, gloves, etc. like those photos of him getting off the plane for that private party he played on New Year's Eve. I refuse to believe he looked the way he did in 2016 just because of the pills he was taking. And why was he taking these pills in the first place? For shits and giggles? I don't think so. And don't be condescending saying those of us who feel this way näive or whatever. If he had been taking them for a long time (which I also don't believe) why did his physical appearance only really start to degrade in the last year or so of his life? Again that's assuming the pills are the reason he looked like he did, as some have suggested. It doesn't make sense.


My problem with saying he was ill is who was his doctor? He'd of been seeing a host of doctors for a major illness. Why would he need Kirk's Dr? It's been said that his doctor might have retired but it would be awfully strange for a doctor to leave a multimillion-dollar client with a terminal illness hanging in the wind with no doctor to contact in case of emergency so that doesn't make any sense.
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Reply #21 posted 08/23/16 1:32am

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morningsong said:

rogifan said:

According to this website: https://medlineplus.gov/anemia.html



If he was anemic it makes me wonder if he did have some illness. It would explain some of the photos we've seen where he had lots of clothes on, gloves, etc. like those photos of him getting off the plane for that private party he played on New Year's Eve. I refuse to believe he looked the way he did in 2016 just because of the pills he was taking. And why was he taking these pills in the first place? For shits and giggles? I don't think so. And don't be condescending saying those of us who feel this way näive or whatever. If he had been taking them for a long time (which I also don't believe) why did his physical appearance only really start to degrade in the last year or so of his life? Again that's assuming the pills are the reason he looked like he did, as some have suggested. It doesn't make sense.


My problem with saying he was ill is who was his doctor? He'd of been seeing a host of doctors for a major illness. Why would he need Kirk's Dr? It's been said that his doctor might have retired but it would be awfully strange for a doctor to leave a multimillion-dollar client with a terminal illness hanging in the wind with no doctor to contact in case of emergency so that doesn't make any sense.

I can't make any sense of it except that I don't think he just woke up one day and decided to start popping painkillers for the hell of it.
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Reply #22 posted 08/23/16 1:32am

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morningsong said:

rogifan said:

According to this website: https://medlineplus.gov/anemia.html



If he was anemic it makes me wonder if he did have some illness. It would explain some of the photos we've seen where he had lots of clothes on, gloves, etc. like those photos of him getting off the plane for that private party he played on New Year's Eve. I refuse to believe he looked the way he did in 2016 just because of the pills he was taking. And why was he taking these pills in the first place? For shits and giggles? I don't think so. And don't be condescending saying those of us who feel this way näive or whatever. If he had been taking them for a long time (which I also don't believe) why did his physical appearance only really start to degrade in the last year or so of his life? Again that's assuming the pills are the reason he looked like he did, as some have suggested. It doesn't make sense.


My problem with saying he was ill is who was his doctor? He'd of been seeing a host of doctors for a major illness. Why would he need Kirk's Dr? It's been said that his doctor might have retired but it would be awfully strange for a doctor to leave a multimillion-dollar client with a terminal illness hanging in the wind with no doctor to contact in case of emergency so that doesn't make any sense.

That baffled me from the start. Why didn't P have his own doc?! No doubt naively, I always expected him 2 have top quality health care. He was educated on natural health & had access 2 a variety of top minds. Plus the mayo is up the road.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #23 posted 08/23/16 1:34am

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I asked my friend who is fb friends with JJ & yes, that is a legitimate post from Jill.

ok, thanks.

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Reply #24 posted 08/23/16 1:36am

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So for the bantering back and forth about "murder" charges for distributing drugs that result in an overdose death, here's an article discusses Prince's death and that clearly states Minnesota law.

http://bigstory.ap.org/ar...d-overdose
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Reply #25 posted 08/23/16 1:38am

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NinaB said:


I asked my friend who is fb friends with JJ & yes, that is a legitimate post from Jill.

ok, thanks.


Welcome.
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Reply #26 posted 08/23/16 1:45am

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The media bs can kiss my fat white ass! Layer apron layer of filth just to try and confuse us! They must think we r stupid! This story chaos and disorder! Because we r catching on to the truth and they have no choice than to spin such backwards bs! First it's flu then it's shoot up fentinyl now it's pills instead? Make up ur freakin mind already cause we know it's bs anyway! It's almost like prince himself it's laughing up a storm trying to make fans think he would put clothes on backwards! Monkeys just flew out my but too! [Edited 8/22/16 22:14pm]

Where did it ever say it was "shoot up" fentanyl" anywhere in the press or in official statements?

And the claims about 'flu came from |prince's own camp to explain why he cancelled those concerts. Nothing to do with the press apart from the fact that they reported what they were told.

It was reported that Prince died of a "self-administered" fentanyl over dose -it did not say be what means or route did it? This was a direct quote from the police and given as cause of death on his death certificate.

There was plenty of speculation on here at the time about what form of fentanyl it was - even some suggestions that he was sucking on fentanyl lollipops which seemed ridicuoius to me at the time.

That speculation was based upon the legally licensed products. If some on here suggested he was injecting that has nothing to do with the press - I thought he must have been using the patches.

I have to say adulterated illicit tablets made to look like another product altogether never even entered my head.

However, I do not see why that is BS, several people have posted that there is a genuine issue with adulterated tablets and that several people have died across the US in recent months - so why is it BS?

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Reply #27 posted 08/23/16 1:46am

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rogifan said:

morningsong said:



My problem with saying he was ill is who was his doctor? He'd of been seeing a host of doctors for a major illness. Why would he need Kirk's Dr? It's been said that his doctor might have retired but it would be awfully strange for a doctor to leave a multimillion-dollar client with a terminal illness hanging in the wind with no doctor to contact in case of emergency so that doesn't make any sense.

I can't make any sense of it except that I don't think he just woke up one day and decided to start popping painkillers for the hell of it.
[Edited 8/23/16 1:32am]



True. There had to be a doctor somewhere along the line but we don't know when that doctor just disappeared it's still bizarre that he didn't go to that doctor when he wasn't feeling well. It is strange they only specified Minnesota and no other state in the country you would think by now the DEA would have some information about any other prescriptions that took place all over the country, now I can understand them not having information about anything outside the country but inside the country they should have everything by now.
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Reply #28 posted 08/23/16 1:48am

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NinaB said:

morningsong said:



My problem with saying he was ill is who was his doctor? He'd of been seeing a host of doctors for a major illness. Why would he need Kirk's Dr? It's been said that his doctor might have retired but it would be awfully strange for a doctor to leave a multimillion-dollar client with a terminal illness hanging in the wind with no doctor to contact in case of emergency so that doesn't make any sense.

That baffled me from the start. Why didn't P have his own doc?! No doubt naively, I always expected him 2 have top quality health care. He was educated on natural health & had access 2 a variety of top minds. Plus the mayo is up the road.



I've been reading some very old board post and from those it looks like Prince didn't like doctors but I don't know how reliable those sources were. It will make me very sad that he didn't trust doctors but somebody gave him a hip surgery so he had to see somebody.
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Reply #29 posted 08/23/16 1:52am

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morningsong said:

NinaB said:


That baffled me from the start. Why didn't P have his own doc?! No doubt naively, I always expected him 2 have top quality health care. He was educated on natural health & had access 2 a variety of top minds. Plus the mayo is up the road.



I've been reading some very old board post and from those it looks like Prince didn't like doctors but I don't know how reliable those sources were. It will make me very sad that he didn't trust doctors but somebody gave him a hip surgery so he had to see somebody.

Yes I thought the same, he had 2 of had a doctor(/s) at some point. I can see him having trust issues with docs etc, this had also crossed my mind.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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