I could not read all through that either, it was a mess - but I noticed at the end her address is there so we can drop her a line and hope when she replies she types the letter and not handwrite it !!!!

morningsong said:

zenarose said:

Morningsong.... did you read the 10 pages with the Frazier woman's claim??

HHHmmmm Ima get me a pen and some paper.....

I did not read the 10 pages, the first page was hurting my eyes. I'll go thru it later.

Anybody have a photo of this woman? LOL, jeejee!

re: Billboard Article. If they want to release sometning this year, it should be the Piano and Microphone concert. At Prince's last public appearance in Paisley Park he said a release was in the works.

A new greatest hits album sounds horrible to us, but it makes a lot of sense. None of his previous GH sets are even remotely comprehensive ("Batdance", a number one single, and "TMBGITW" have never appeared on a compilation) and a new one, if it covers his entire career and they include one or two unreleased songs, could be a solid seller over the holidays.

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I don't think we should be up in arms about this. The estate needs money. And nothing done from here on out will matter to Prince or his artistic legacy (other than strengthening it by issuing brilliant unreleased work). He belongs to the masses again. And that's how it will have to be if we want to keep getting vault music and concerts.

So I guess Tyka and Hubby want get a check until 2017?

Isn't there a thread for Vault releases? Or a thread for the holiday release?

I realize not much is happening here these days but c'mon, let's not glut this one up with personal request for releases.

I wanna be able to see how the courtroom drama stuff unfolds without digging through pages of opinion of unreleased material and whatnot. It's the only court thread around these parts.
Let us be.


Alley

morningsong said:

Pgeishirt said:

morningsong said:

Isn't there a thread for Vault releases? Or a thread for the holiday release?

I realize not much is happening here these days but c'mon, let's not glut this one up with personal request for releases.

I wanna be able to see how the courtroom drama stuff unfolds without digging through pages of opinion of unreleased material and whatnot. It's the only court thread around these parts.
Let us be.


Alley

I agree, morningsong, that a post about releases doesn't fit well here but I was directed here after the other thread was closed. The thread about the estate looking to contact with publishers for the vault. Sorry to clutter this court record thread.

Oh I see. Well that was that. I'm moving on.

The greatst hits discussion is in regard to this:

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http://www.billboard.com/...atest-hits

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It had its own thread but that was locked by mods and was redirected here.

[Edited 8/26/16 18:09pm]

Astasheiks said:

So I guess Tyka and Hubby want get a check until 2017?

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If you believe that then you beklieve they are not thinking in a sane manner.

Assuming the estate is worth 300 million, who will pay the $150M for the taxman?

Part by the testae maybe but the largest part will be, I guess, by the media-related companies.

They will not pay an upfront fee per se.

They might want to pay a prcentage of actual sales. Or perhaps percentage of shipped product.

If we remember that the 1992(?) 100M contract could only be fullfilled with D&P-like sales, then how much value does a record company see in a deceased washed up greatest hits performer with unknown songs in his closet?

If they see $100M, then over how many years is that? 10? 15?

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Additional to taht are the royalties over the existing catalogue.

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I cannot look into the pockets of record comapnies etc, nor can I predict how crazy they are but the days of CD's are fading (looking at the mp3-players and streaming stuff).

So what is the business case?

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It will be very interesting to see what type of deal the heirs wil accept.

renfield said:

The greatst hits discussion is in regard to this:

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http://www.billboard.com/...atest-hits

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It had its own thread but that was locked by mods and was redirected here.

[Edited 8/26/16 18:09pm]

the mods for all their hard work make some of the dumbest decisons ever and this is proof,,lets killa thread by burying it in another,,,Prince would be proud you copied his MO

lwr001 said:

renfield said:

The greatst hits discussion is in regard to this:

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http://www.billboard.com/...atest-hits

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It had its own thread but that was locked by mods and was redirected here.

[Edited 8/26/16 18:09pm]

the mods for all their hard work make some of the dumbest decisons ever and this is proof,,lets killa thread by burying it in another,,,Prince would be proud you copied his MO

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How hard is it to do a Purple rain remaster 2CD this Christmas?

WB has the PR album remaster.

They only need the 12" stuff the remixes etc.

Maybe the outtakes if that fits on a 2nd CD.

Then they have somethign to release that mr Prince blocked.

This would be money in the pocket for the estate and thus for the heirs if the legal people do not burn that cash.

Same for a ATWIAD remaster, an UTCM remaster, etc.

PR for end of 2016, ATWIAD for march 207, UTCM for juy 2017, etc.

Please do not pretend that doing a proper remaster 2CD is hard.

These would sell.

udo said:

lwr001 said:

the mods for all their hard work make some of the dumbest decisons ever and this is proof,,lets killa thread by burying it in another,,,Prince would be proud you copied his MO

.

How hard is it to do a Purple rain remaster 2CD this Christmas?

WB has the PR album remaster.

They only need the 12" stuff the remixes etc.

Maybe the outtakes if that fits on a 2nd CD.

Then they have somethign to release that mr Prince blocked.

This would be money in the pocket for the estate and thus for the heirs if the legal people do not burn that cash.

Same for a ATWIAD remaster, an UTCM remaster, etc.

PR for end of 2016, ATWIAD for march 207, UTCM for juy 2017, etc.

Please do not pretend that doing a proper remaster 2CD is hard.

These would sell.

shouldnt be hard at all considering WB still apparaently had global locensiong rights to his music...You'd think they would have a ton of material to put out..ESp now that they dont have to deal with his obstructiionist nature

lwr001 said:

udo said:

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How hard is it to do a Purple rain remaster 2CD this Christmas?

WB has the PR album remaster.

They only need the 12" stuff the remixes etc.

Maybe the outtakes if that fits on a 2nd CD.

Then they have somethign to release that mr Prince blocked.

This would be money in the pocket for the estate and thus for the heirs if the legal people do not burn that cash.

Same for a ATWIAD remaster, an UTCM remaster, etc.

PR for end of 2016, ATWIAD for march 207, UTCM for juy 2017, etc.

Please do not pretend that doing a proper remaster 2CD is hard.

These would sell.

shouldnt be hard at all considering WB still apparaently had global locensiong rights to his music...You'd think they would have a ton of material to put out..ESp now that they dont have to deal with his obstructiionist nature

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Exactly!

So it is only a bit of work and a guaranteed seller.

Of course the numbers of sales are harder to predict.

So what is holding the Estate back to arrange this deal? (instead of another best of?)

lwr001 said:

Victor761993 said:

The problem for me and fams like U is The Vault. Will we hear last new albums from Prince one day? Is someone cares about us???

wont "they" release more common things to get the publics attention ..BEFORE the unreleased albums show themselves?

all they have to do is release at least 1 new unreleased album per year and they r guarenteed 40 years of material.

Victor761993 said:

The problem for me and fams like U is The Vault. Will we hear last new albums from Prince one day? Is someone cares about us???

Nope...the Estate or whoever don't care about us the Fans and our wishes or Music from Prince in Artistic way...this World cares about MONEY and how to make lots of $$$ with a minimun = Best Of....Basic Reissues and other compilations !

alandail said:

re: Billboard Article. If they want to release sometning this year, it should be the Piano and Microphone concert. At Prince's last public appearance in Paisley Park he said a release was in the works.

I agree with this because even all the news bulletins were showing footage from these so the public know about them. These are too brilliant to be hidden away and forgotten about. Sure release a Greatest Hits if they want, but it would be good to release BOTH that and the P&M Concert? Imagine that, one could buy the GH album and hear how the songs were originally recorded then the P&M one to hear them in the acousitic arrangement.

But to be honest, the Greatest Hits thing - will people really rush out to buy it? I mean there are some compilations already and I feel if they brought those and liked those they would have sourced out the other songs themselves via other means (its not hard to dig them out).

And I know some will say "yes but albums are out of print" but here in Australia you can actually get a few of them from the local library for free and put them into iTunes or whatever - I really am not sure how a Greatest Hits will go but I do think the P&M Tour had a lot of interest from even non-Prince fans and that is what should be next. Just as a side note, the bootlegs of these P&M tours were selling for a fortune on "that auction website" so that alone shows there was much interest as people were willing to pay Hundreds for a bootleg. I think the longer they leave releasing the P&M the less interest there will be in them? Strike whilst the iron is hot as they say!

And as a side note - I kind of think it would be honouring Princes wish of having it released as he was working on this himself - it would be a like the final chapter in a way?

[Edited 8/27/16 16:14pm]

[Edited 8/27/16 16:15pm]

This is crappy, crappy:

http://www.mncourts.gov/m...-Order.pdf

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If you are not blood kin, you should not inherit in this case.

tmo1965 said:

This is crappy, crappy:

http://www.mncourts.gov/m...-Order.pdf

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If you are not blood kin, you should not inherit in this case.

I agree!! Maybe they figure if they drag it out someone will pay them to go away.

tmo1965 said:

We'll see where it goes in about a month. If they're going to go the distance to set a precedence or did they shoot themselves in the foot by not making a claim on John L's estate forfeiting any other claims of heirship or if they just become annoying enough to get a couple mil to go away. Their lawyer's seems to have it locked up until next year.

Vee0319 said:

udo said:

Astasheiks said:

So I guess Tyka and Hubby want get a check until 2017?

.

If you believe that then you beklieve they are not thinking in a sane manner.

Assuming the estate is worth 300 million, who will pay the $150M for the taxman?

Part by the testae maybe but the largest part will be, I guess, by the media-related companies.

They will not pay an upfront fee per se.

They might want to pay a prcentage of actual sales. Or perhaps percentage of shipped product.

If we remember that the 1992(?) 100M contract could only be fullfilled with D&P-like sales, then how much value does a record company see in a deceased washed up greatest hits performer with unknown songs in his closet?

If they see $100M, then over how many years is that? 10? 15?

.

Additional to taht are the royalties over the existing catalogue.

.

I cannot look into the pockets of record comapnies etc, nor can I predict how crazy they are but the days of CD's are fading (looking at the mp3-players and streaming stuff).

So what is the business case?

.

It will be very interesting to see what type of deal the heirs wil accept.

The fact that Prince sold millions after his death is proof they can still put out product. When Prince fans start departing the world in about 10 years at an increasing amount do to age. Sales will start to dip just like the Stones did.

morningsong said: