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Reply #1050 posted 07/09/16 7:26am

Tresha68

Thanks for pulling those phrases out. I agree with you on this one.

CROWNS1 said:

wow, JH didn't kill anyone lol lol

She did however leave stuff out of her story. What came through crystal clear to me though is how unhappy Prince was. Just picking lines out of the interview it's very clear. If you were reading this about someone totally unknown to you, you might see it in a different light:

Its very isolating to have to carry so much and be afraid to say anything.

My heart rages because I loved him so much and I just wanted him to be truly happy.

Prince, I've put up with a lot of things, but you don't get to do this one.

I do know that there was so much beauty amidst the pain.

I believe God brought ultimate healing. Prince is completely free and happy right now.

I'm okay with that as long as remember Prince is the lucky one right now.

Then..there was his ex-managers twitter response to JH's interview:

Why has this been romanticised??? 😡There's more to the story..

if you are going to talk at least tell the truth

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Reply #1051 posted 07/09/16 7:49am

RJOrion

what was Prince's ex managers' response?...i missed that
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Reply #1052 posted 07/09/16 12:09pm

CROWNS1

RJOrion said:

what was Prince's ex managers' response?...i missed that

It was what I posted above. She also made another one that expanded even more of the fact that there was more to the story and she stated if JH was going to talk, she should tell the whole story, the whole truth. But she quickly deleted it. This one still remains:

Why has this been romanticised??? 😡There's more to the story..

if you are going to talk at least tell the truth

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Reply #1053 posted 07/09/16 1:18pm

Mumio

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CROWNS1 said:

RJOrion said:

what was Prince's ex managers' response?...i missed that

It was what I posted above. She also made another one that expanded even more of the fact that there was more to the story and she stated if JH was going to talk, she should tell the whole story, the whole truth. But she quickly deleted it. This one still remains:

Why has this been romanticised??? 😡There's more to the story..

if you are going to talk at least tell the truth

nod I've never bought into the Hill NYT story and felt much of it was self-promotion. I really wonder if that man had a single friend who was truly loyal to him.

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Reply #1054 posted 07/09/16 1:30pm

wavesofbliss

well if the ex manager knows "the whole story" why doesn't she spill? calling bullshit on the whole mess. at least judy was on the plane with him, what does this english woman know or think she knows?

Prince #MUSICIANICONLEGEND
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Reply #1055 posted 07/09/16 1:45pm

Mumio

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StopIt said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

FUNKNROLL said: sad poor Prince sad

Tend to think he came back knowing it would be very brief due to another diagnosis, but simply to tie up a few loose ends that he was working on.

Agreed StopIt.

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Reply #1056 posted 07/09/16 2:03pm

endiadj

judith was traveling with him to concerts even though she wasn't in his act. she was one of 2 people on the plane with him. she went through a traumatizing experience with him. prince almost died right in front of her eyes! she can speak if she wants and i trust her words.
[Edited 7/9/16 14:04pm]
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Reply #1057 posted 07/10/16 6:44pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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endiadj said:

judith was traveling with him to concerts even though she wasn't in his act. she was one of 2 people on the plane with him. she went through a traumatizing experience with him. prince almost died right in front of her eyes! she can speak if she wants and i trust her words. [Edited 7/9/16 14:04pm]

I dont trust her words. This article was all a public relations ploy by her publicist. There are many holes in Judith's story.

She was under exclusive contract with Sony. Prince produced Judith's album. Sony sued Prince in March 2015 for producing this album. Judith doesnt have Prince any longer to back her up. Hill "double crossed" those in the industry that invested in her. Judith is worried about her career.

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Reply #1058 posted 07/10/16 8:04pm

endiadj

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

endiadj said:

judith was traveling with him to concerts even though she wasn't in his act. she was one of 2 people on the plane with him. she went through a traumatizing experience with him. prince almost died right in front of her eyes! she can speak if she wants and i trust her words. [Edited 7/9/16 14:04pm]

I dont trust her words. This article was all a public relations ploy by her publicist. There are many holes in Judith's story.

She was under exclusive contract with Sony. Prince produced Judith's album. Sony sued Prince in March 2015 for producing this album. Judith doesnt have Prince any longer to back her up. Hill "double crossed" those in the industry that invested in her. Judith is worried about her career.

it's not like he can do anything to help her now. the woman has a grammy under her belt. she left a big record label because she believed in prince. she must've had a lot of faith in him, trust in him, respect for him, love for him to risk leaving a great set up for herself. she didn't need him. so, i don't believe this was just some silly game for her. i could see her feeling that she lost her friend, love and mentor all in one. again, i trust her words.

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Reply #1059 posted 07/10/16 9:35pm

tmo1965

CROWNS1 said:

RJOrion said:

what was Prince's ex managers' response?...i missed that

It was what I posted above. She also made another one that expanded even more of the fact that there was more to the story and she stated if JH was going to talk, she should tell the whole story, the whole truth. But she quickly deleted it. This one still remains:

Why has this been romanticised??? 😡There's more to the story..

if you are going to talk at least tell the truth

Who is the ex-manager?

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Reply #1060 posted 07/10/16 9:43pm

tmo1965

endiadj said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I dont trust her words. This article was all a public relations ploy by her publicist. There are many holes in Judith's story.

She was under exclusive contract with Sony. Prince produced Judith's album. Sony sued Prince in March 2015 for producing this album. Judith doesnt have Prince any longer to back her up. Hill "double crossed" those in the industry that invested in her. Judith is worried about her career.

it's not like he can do anything to help her now. the woman has a grammy under her belt. she left a big record label because she believed in prince. she must've had a lot of faith in him, trust in him, respect for him, love for him to risk leaving a great set up for herself. she didn't need him. so, i don't believe this was just some silly game for her. i could see her feeling that she lost her friend, love and mentor all in one. again, i trust her words.

I'm sure that Judith believed in P, but at the end of the day, she had a contract with Sony. Now, since P is gone, she has burnt her bridges and may not get another deal. I wish her well, but letting Prince produce her cd was a mistake.

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Reply #1061 posted 07/10/16 10:47pm

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tmo1965 said:



CROWNS1 said:




RJOrion said:


what was Prince's ex managers' response?...i missed that

It was what I posted above. She also made another one that expanded even more of the fact that there was more to the story and she stated if JH was going to talk, she should tell the whole story, the whole truth. But she quickly deleted it. This one still remains:



Why has this been romanticised??? 😡There's more to the story..

if you are going to talk at least tell the truth



Who is the ex-manager?


Kiran Sharma https://twitter.com/kikitkiran
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Reply #1062 posted 07/11/16 7:47am

tmo1965

CROWNS1 said:

RJOrion said:

what was Prince's ex managers' response?...i missed that

It was what I posted above. She also made another one that expanded even more of the fact that there was more to the story and she stated if JH was going to talk, she should tell the whole story, the whole truth. But she quickly deleted it. This one still remains:

Why has this been romanticised??? 😡There's more to the story..

if you are going to talk at least tell the truth

This one is still there:

Romanticising & publicising personal details of this tragedy 2 boost ones ego/career is gross. Love and Truth Only... Always... 💜

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Reply #1063 posted 07/11/16 8:07am

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Statement from a jealous "ex-manager" of Prince. confused
"Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."



"We had fun, didn't we?"
-Prince (1958-2016) 4ever in my life
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Reply #1064 posted 07/11/16 8:07am

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tmo1965 said:



endiadj said:




ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



I dont trust her words. This article was all a public relations ploy by her publicist. There are many holes in Judith's story.



She was under exclusive contract with Sony. Prince produced Judith's album. Sony sued Prince in March 2015 for producing this album. Judith doesnt have Prince any longer to back her up. Hill "double crossed" those in the industry that invested in her. Judith is worried about her career.





it's not like he can do anything to help her now. the woman has a grammy under her belt. she left a big record label because she believed in prince. she must've had a lot of faith in him, trust in him, respect for him, love for him to risk leaving a great set up for herself. she didn't need him. so, i don't believe this was just some silly game for her. i could see her feeling that she lost her friend, love and mentor all in one. again, i trust her words.



I'm sure that Judith believed in P, but at the end of the day, she had a contract with Sony. Now, since P is gone, she has burnt her bridges and may not get another deal. I wish her well, but letting Prince produce her cd was a mistake.


--- Judith had a deal with Jolene Cherry who in turn lost her deal with Sony. Judith had sued Jolene Cherry for breach of contract she sat around for two years doing nothing and watched as Mrs.Cherry leaked stories that Judith was a supporter of Kim Jong II !!! All of this stuff was in the media Sony and Cherry are crazy and I don't think Judith made a mistake getting away from that women.
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Reply #1065 posted 07/11/16 8:22am

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rainbowchild said:

Statement from a jealous "ex-manager" of Prince. confused

--- She could be jealous after he passed she posted something like him being her husband which made me wonder if their relationship was than professional. How often did he foolishly get involved with woman who for him? If she knows more she needs to come out with it. Whatever it is it should come from people who knew him.
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Reply #1066 posted 07/11/16 8:39am

Tresha68

laurarichardson said:

tmo1965 said:

I'm sure that Judith believed in P, but at the end of the day, she had a contract with Sony. Now, since P is gone, she has burnt her bridges and may not get another deal. I wish her well, but letting Prince produce her cd was a mistake.

--- Judith had a deal with Jolene Cherry who in turn lost her deal with Sony. Judith had sued Jolene Cherry for breach of contract she sat around for two years doing nothing and watched as Mrs.Cherry leaked stories that Judith was a supporter of Kim Jong II !!! All of this stuff was in the media Sony and Cherry are crazy and I don't think Judith made a mistake getting away from that women.

Something about her rubs me the wrong way. She is the ONLY one talking. It seems odd to me. Even his wives have been nothing but respectful of his privacy. Wasn't he celibate? wink

If she was so close and so "in love" with him, how the f'ing hell did she not know he was ill? I mean come on.

Something in the water does not compute.

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Reply #1067 posted 07/11/16 8:52am

endiadj

Tresha68 said:

laurarichardson said:

tmo1965 said: --- Judith had a deal with Jolene Cherry who in turn lost her deal with Sony. Judith had sued Jolene Cherry for breach of contract she sat around for two years doing nothing and watched as Mrs.Cherry leaked stories that Judith was a supporter of Kim Jong II !!! All of this stuff was in the media Sony and Cherry are crazy and I don't think Judith made a mistake getting away from that women.

Something about her rubs me the wrong way. She is the ONLY one talking. It seems odd to me. Even his wives have been nothing but respectful of his privacy. Wasn't he celibate? wink

If she was so close and so "in love" with him, how the f'ing hell did she not know he was ill? I mean come on.

Something in the water does not compute.

Maybe because she has nothing to hide. Other people who knew him talked, Sheila, Carmen, Damaris, Andy, Andre, Dez, etc., so why can't she talk? Did the others rub you the wrong way too? She didn't say anything disrespectful or tell us anything we didn't already know, except Prince wanted to watch Zootopia. Hope he got a chance to see it.

Honestly, some fans get upset when anyone, especially women, express their love for Prince because we believe he belongs to us and only us.

[Edited 7/11/16 8:53am]

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Reply #1068 posted 07/11/16 9:57am

Tresha68

endiadj said:



Tresha68 said:




laurarichardson said:


tmo1965 said: --- Judith had a deal with Jolene Cherry who in turn lost her deal with Sony. Judith had sued Jolene Cherry for breach of contract she sat around for two years doing nothing and watched as Mrs.Cherry leaked stories that Judith was a supporter of Kim Jong II !!! All of this stuff was in the media Sony and Cherry are crazy and I don't think Judith made a mistake getting away from that women.


Something about her rubs me the wrong way. She is the ONLY one talking. It seems odd to me. Even his wives have been nothing but respectful of his privacy. Wasn't he celibate? wink



If she was so close and so "in love" with him, how the f'ing hell did she not know he was ill? I mean come on.



Something in the water does not compute.



Maybe because she has nothing to hide. Other people who knew him talked, Sheila, Carmen, Damaris, Andy, Andre, Dez, etc., so why can't she talk? Did the others rub you the wrong way too? She didn't say anything disrespectful or tell us anything we didn't already know, except Prince wanted to watch Zootopia. Hope he got a chance to see it.



Honestly, some fans get upset when anyone, especially women, express their love for Prince because we believe he belongs to us and only us.

[Edited 7/11/16 8:53am]




I'm far from one of those fans. I just feel as though she has ulterior motives. Sadly, she did the same thing when MJ passed. She now needs another label. I don't deny she cared for him, nor do I wish her any ill will. I just have a funny feeling about her. Perhaps ill leave my comments to myself.
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Reply #1069 posted 07/11/16 10:11am

LuxLove

laurarichardson said:

rainbowchild said:
Statement from a jealous "ex-manager" of Prince. confused
--- She could be jealous after he passed she posted something like him being her husband which made me wonder if their relationship was than professional. How often did he foolishly get involved with woman who for him? If she knows more she needs to come out with it. Whatever it is it should come from people who knew him.

People often refer to those they work closely with as work husband/wife. I don't think it means anything since she also called him her brother:

At times he was also like my mentor, brother, teacher, advisor, husband, client, employee, employer, friend... all in one.

The tribute from his other manager Julia (the most beautiful I've read sad ) could also read as if they were in a relationship. I truly doubt that they were & am not suggesting that just making a point.

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Reply #1070 posted 07/11/16 10:23am

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You all need to get off Ms Hill's back. I am so glad she told us what happened on that plane (and afterwards). That gave some healing. No way was she using this to publicize anything... Just look at photos at Pasley Park. Who is the most distraught visually? Judith Hill... far more than anyone else there.

"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #1071 posted 07/11/16 10:46am

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LuxLove said:



laurarichardson said:


rainbowchild said:
Statement from a jealous "ex-manager" of Prince. confused

--- She could be jealous after he passed she posted something like him being her husband which made me wonder if their relationship was than professional. How often did he foolishly get involved with woman who for him? If she knows more she needs to come out with it. Whatever it is it should come from people who knew him.


People often refer to those they work closely with as work husband/wife. I don't think it means anything since she also called him her brother:


At times he was also like my mentor, brother, teacher, advisor, husband, client, employee, employer, friend... all in one.




The tribute from his other manager Julia (the most beautiful I've read sad ) could also read as if they were in a relationship. I truly doubt that they were & am not suggesting that just making a point.


---- Who is Julia? I am sorry I can't keep up with Prince and his woman.
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Reply #1072 posted 07/11/16 10:55am

LuxLove

laurarichardson said:

LuxLove said:

People often refer to those they work closely with as work husband/wife. I don't think it means anything since she also called him her brother:

At times he was also like my mentor, brother, teacher, advisor, husband, client, employee, employer, friend... all in one.

The tribute from his other manager Julia (the most beautiful I've read sad ) could also read as if they were in a relationship. I truly doubt that they were & am not suggesting that just making a point.

---- Who is Julia? I am sorry I can't keep up with Prince and his woman.

Julia Ramadan, former manager who was in her early 20s when she started working with him.

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Reply #1073 posted 07/11/16 11:55am

Mumio

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Tresha68 said:

endiadj said:

Maybe because she has nothing to hide. Other people who knew him talked, Sheila, Carmen, Damaris, Andy, Andre, Dez, etc., so why can't she talk? Did the others rub you the wrong way too? She didn't say anything disrespectful or tell us anything we didn't already know, except Prince wanted to watch Zootopia. Hope he got a chance to see it.

Honestly, some fans get upset when anyone, especially women, express their love for Prince because we believe he belongs to us and only us.

[Edited 7/11/16 8:53am]

I'm far from one of those fans. I just feel as though she has ulterior motives. Sadly, she did the same thing when MJ passed. She now needs another label. I don't deny she cared for him, nor do I wish her any ill will. I just have a funny feeling about her. Perhaps ill leave my comments to myself.

Me too nod I'm with you on this Tresha68 and appreciate you saying what you think. Demaris also didn't care for what she said so I'm not on board with "jealous ex-manager".

[Edited 7/11/16 11:57am]

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Reply #1074 posted 07/11/16 12:27pm

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LuxLove said:



laurarichardson said:


LuxLove said:



People often refer to those they work closely with as work husband/wife. I don't think it means anything since she also called him her brother:


At times he was also like my mentor, brother, teacher, advisor, husband, client, employee, employer, friend... all in one.




The tribute from his other manager Julia (the most beautiful I've read sad ) could also read as if they were in a relationship. I truly doubt that they were & am not suggesting that just making a point.



---- Who is Julia? I am sorry I can't keep up with Prince and his woman.


Julia Ramadan, former manager who was in her early 20s when she started working with him.


-// What time frame was she his manger.
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Reply #1075 posted 07/11/16 5:01pm

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laurarichardson said:

tmo1965 said:

I'm sure that Judith believed in P, but at the end of the day, she had a contract with Sony. Now, since P is gone, she has burnt her bridges and may not get another deal. I wish her well, but letting Prince produce her cd was a mistake.

--- Judith had a deal with Jolene Cherry who in turn lost her deal with Sony. Judith had sued Jolene Cherry for breach of contract she sat around for two years doing nothing and watched as Mrs.Cherry leaked stories that Judith was a supporter of Kim Jong II !!! All of this stuff was in the media Sony and Cherry are crazy and I don't think Judith made a mistake getting away from that women.

nod I was under the impression that prince had helped free Judith from a contract that was delaying her from releasing music.
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Reply #1076 posted 07/11/16 7:02pm

nursev

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coming back to earth - hindsight is 20/20, but I regret Judith Hill, Kirky J, and the technicians on the ground didn't leak info of Prince's overdose to the press. It would have humiliated him (and, I suppose, threaten their relationship), but maybe been enough to change what happened on 4/21.

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It's the magical thinking - I don't have a problem, what you just saw didn't happen, everything's fine - that allows the addiction to thrive, and kill. It's actually the addiction that forms the thoughts in the first place.

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MY (tiny) CONSPIRACY THEORY: TMZ knew. They knew he was addicted, they knew it wasn't a flu, they probably even knew about the shot. They didn't report, either from legality, or money.

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Either that, or Judith Hill is a member of the Deadly Viper Assassination Squad.

agreed...maybe he wouldve gotten help earlier if someone cared enough to say something.

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Reply #1077 posted 07/11/16 7:53pm

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Mintchip said:

coming back to earth - hindsight is 20/20, but I regret Judith Hill, Kirky J, and the technicians on the ground didn't leak info of Prince's overdose to the press.

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There might be CONtracts or expen$ive lawyers.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #1078 posted 07/11/16 8:14pm

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nursev said:

Mintchip said:

coming back to earth - hindsight is 20/20, but I regret Judith Hill, Kirky J, and the technicians on the ground didn't leak info of Prince's overdose to the press. It would have humiliated him (and, I suppose, threaten their relationship), but maybe been enough to change what happened on 4/21.

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It's the magical thinking - I don't have a problem, what you just saw didn't happen, everything's fine - that allows the addiction to thrive, and kill. It's actually the addiction that forms the thoughts in the first place.

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MY (tiny) CONSPIRACY THEORY: TMZ knew. They knew he was addicted, they knew it wasn't a flu, they probably even knew about the shot. They didn't report, either from legality, or money.

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Either that, or Judith Hill is a member of the Deadly Viper Assassination Squad.

agreed...maybe he wouldve gotten help earlier if someone cared enough to say something.

Isnt TMZ owned by Warner Brothers?

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Reply #1079 posted 07/11/16 8:22pm

laytonian

Tresha68 said:


I'm far from one of those fans. I just feel as though she has ulterior motives. Sadly, she did the same thing when MJ passed. She now needs another label. I don't deny she cared for him, nor do I wish her any ill will. I just have a funny feeling about her. Perhaps ill leave my comments to myself.

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Remember, Judith did NOT go to the media. It was obviously known in many circles that she was on the plane during those events. The New York Times reporters chased her down and got her to talk ... after she turned them down several times.

As for that ex-manager: I'd say that there's more jealousy there than anything else.

Prince loved women. Why can't y'all let him be happy with them?

Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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