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morningsong said: endiadj said: maybe he didn't have a dependency/addiction problem until recently, so he didn't know any doctors who specialized in it and kirky did.
Not the dependency issues the original pain issues, there had to be some doctor at the beginning of all this. And any self respecting doctor would refer his patients to another doctor if they were retiring. hmm if he did have hip surgery then that doctor would be the one with some answers. maybe after the surgery he took pain medication sporadically, so it wasn't an issue. then the pain returned and he got the meds again somehow instead of seeking out a pain specialist until it was too late. [Edited 6/25/16 14:43pm] | |
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. On a lighter note: Prince's cooking -- Omelets: good Smoothies: not so good.
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endiadj said: morningsong said: Not the dependency issues the original pain issues, there had to be some doctor at the beginning of all this. And any self respecting doctor would refer his patients to another doctor if they were retiring. hmm if he did have hip surgery then that doctor would be the one with some answers. maybe after the surgery he took pain medication sporadically, so it wasn't an issue. then the pain returned and he got the meds again somehow instead of seeking out a pain specialist until it was too late. [Edited 6/25/16 14:43pm] Given his symptoms over the last few months, then it can be guessed he was going on and off pain meds, because those type of visible flu-like symptoms do not last for months and months if you are completely off the meds. He would need a current prescpition for those meds for recent use. He would have needed to see a Dr. long before April 7th to get more. | |
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. I forgot to mention: this was part of the podcast. Judith Hill had described how Prince "cooked" for her. Apparently, it was no joke that all his friends had high cholesterol from all those eggs. .
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. `Different` is not necessarily cheaper. With an estate of millions he does need to be cheap. .
. I do not need to speculate. He died because overdose. That means that no medical oversight was present. Also there is no info on who supplied the medication. This makes the whol situation very much fitting in what I described. .
. I think about dieing often enough. People around me know what to do.
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thank u 4 this post . his relationships will always be ambiguous and she respects that.
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one interesting thing to know would be if people were usually in face-to-face conversations with prince when he flew. I would imagine the answer to be yes. But if this was a mild form or seizure, what if it did happen now and then on a plane but was just assumed to be dozing off in other instances. The main thing i would wonder about seizures is, if he had been having them, how could he prevent them from happening in the middle of a concert? Though each individual is different, could performing be one of his 'safe' acitivities that had always been free from triggering a seizure? Would there be anything to temporarily suspend the possibility of one for an evening of performing? Sorry to keep asking about this but it's one of the central questions this article raised for me. thanks again!
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thanks for clarifying this. this is the saddest detail to me that makes it seem so preventable. flowing through the veins of the tree of life...purplemaplesyrup | |
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Well, one thing he could have been doing (and not saying he was)...but maybe if he still had that condition or it reemerged, he could have been taking seizure medications. They attempt to stop them from happening, but it is still no guarentee..ever.. They have side effects....All drugs interact with each other , and even some natural products interact with the medicines. >>
He did alot of the things in his life that are seizure triggers--mainly lack of sleep or stress. That can make one happen. for most with epilepsy. Illness is another trigger for most w epilepsy.. Because I never heard of him having one in concert, I also assumed he was controlled or done with the seizures. I don't know if there is ever a 'safe' time, such as performing. Some people have different triggers to make them or encourage them to happen.For example, most people think bright flashing lights (ie stage)make people with epilepsy have a seizure. This is not true, unless that is that person's trigger. He must have known what his tirggers were if indeed he had them as an adult...In my case, my chid's main trigger was SWINGS and believe it or not, the beginning of sleep! You had asked if he could take something to make them not come during a concert? I am not a doctor, but since my chiild's issue was upon falling asleep, they used to give her the larger dose of medicine at bedtime, and almost nothing all day. So I don't know, I guess you can tweak the meds depending on the mediicine...So in essence, I guess you can lower the possibility of it at certain times... By the way, on a good note, we don't have any anymore....Supposedly cured but I never fully trust it. >> As far as him having them and no one noticing, it could be true, because most people think of the flailing only. And, actually that is not always the case. And sometimes they can really subtlle, or strange presentations such as vomiting, zoning out, and even laughing. Put it this way, I have seen my child have one, and even I had to question 'was that one?' It's really weird. Maybe the condition was starting to return..who knows... But, The brain practices having them and gets good at it and they happen more frequently. (its called kindling). >
>>Again, I don't think a seizure is what killed him. But the more I read, the more Iwonder if that issue maybe was returning for him.--even due to his drug use, withdrawal or even being il, or simply just reemerging...I am not convinced though, that he died solo fro the accidental overdose. Something else or additional issues besides the drugs combinted to make the 'perfect storm' and now he's gone. You have to remember, that I am sure it is something he didn't discuss with people at all. It has a bad stigma in society overall, people don't understand it. I doubt he was forthcoming with it or made it the central topic or worry in his life. I mean the day he said he had seizures when he was younger and he was cured by an angel was so out of the blue . Random. Stange, as most things with him (but that's ok)
> One thing, unless I read it wrong, with JH interview,) have to reread)--- She said something about not having medicine or the necessary items on the plane to deal with that..They also have emergencey medications to stop seizures.I was wondering what she meant by" that"..or if she really meant just the NArcan. In other words, I was wondering or it seemed maybe she already knew what "THAT" was. Perhaps I read too much into iit. > Anyway, hope this helps.
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Yes, the Narcan and tolerance, etc was so disppointing and sad for me to hear as well. It's the ultimate 'if only."
Is it 100% confrimed though that he received NARCAN or is it assumed or taboids? To me that is a big question that I am sure the autopsy showed. I don't know what substances are in Narcan
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thank you -- all very helpful glad to hear that your daughter seems cured and hope its a permanent cure. i also wondered if his mention of his childhood cure was a hint of a reoccurence or just meant he believed anything could be cured
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blue22 said: It's this kind of stupidity and ignorance that is the problem with all of this in the first place. People being too side-tracked by fame and seperating 'drug addicts' who take 'street drug's from those who may or may not have a perscription. Drugs are drugs. You clearly and most certainly do not have an ounce of understanding of this very elementary and simple fact. Now that is ignorance. | |
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laytonian said: . On a lighter note: Prince's cooking -- Omelets: good Smoothies: not so good.
We need the recipes Makes e wonder what the heck he was putting in those smoothies. | |
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morningsong said: laytonian said: . On a lighter note: Prince's cooking -- Omelets: good Smoothies: not so good.
We need the recipes Makes e wonder what the heck he was putting in those smoothies. Are you implying he mixed the medication in his smoothies? It appears that he must have put in his drink or something since he went unconscious while he was eating. Love is God,
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avajane said: morningsong said: Makes e wonder what the heck he was putting in those smoothies. Are you implying he mixed the medication in his smoothies? It appears that he must have put in his drink or something since he went unconscious while he was eating. Uh no, something like that never crossed my mind. Fruit smoothies mostly taste good was mostly what I was thinking, was he putting alfafa sprouts or something was what was on my mind. | |
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Vegans don't eat eggs. | |
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. He was vegan only for awhile. Vegetarian. Ate salmon. Apparently went to Dairy Queen A LOT (what's even vegetarian there)? He mentioned several times that he made omelets for his friends. Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me. | |
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Makes my heart break all over again! He didn't want to die, especially if he fought so hard to come back! Then he wanted to get help, but it was too late! Doesn't get easier when you find out more information about his passing. And you know more people will be coming out of the woodworks to tell their story. | |
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Honestly, I dont understand why some fans are so upset or denying the fact that Prince took painkillers Just to make it clear. ...I will NEVER see him as a junkie and I am sad because of all those comments trying to put Prince in the same box of Kurt Cobain and such. Never believed in this ´drugs for stage fright´also. But, at the same time, I acknowledge that Prince took drugs for pain and it´s a very common problem in America. I only feel (very) sad that he couldnt get help in time enough to save his life. This thought makes me devastated. [Edited 6/26/16 11:26am] | |
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People want to see Prince as superhuman and incapable of failing.
Unfortunately, Prince was a mere mortal like the rest of us.
And yeah, I'm with you. He took pain meds because he was in pain. That's it, that's all. I do wish people would quit attacking Judith, too. She didn't do anything wrong, here,a nd having seen this man die right in front of her -- I say she damn well has a right to say what she wants to, and screw the people who don't think it's 'respectful'. So freaking what. You try having someone die in front of you and see how you feel. Of COURSE she's emotional right now -- she spent 2 years with this man, and had to go through a horrible experience with him. SHe didn't say a damn thing that would make him look bad -- she actually painted a positive picture. He /wanted to come back/. She did what she could to help him, she put her neck out there and got some shit happening. Wasn't that what you people wanted?
Then why are you screaming at her for doing it. [Edited 6/26/16 11:32am] | |
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nursev said: As for these women arguing on social media about Ms. Hill speaking out Im glad she did...Princes fans needed to hear that so fuck what they say. This thread reminds me of the first few verses in June Pasta simmers on the stove in June Makes no sense yet but it will soon Conversation starters come way too hard Nobody wants to be the martyr Playing the wrong cards... I'm just saying it's June [Edited 6/26/16 11:42am] | |
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wow, i hadn't noticed that, thanks. | |
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