Correction, USING her story ABOUT him!!! | |
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Funny, I read it as HER story WITH him. Again, nothing at all disrespectful about what was said concerning him. | |
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Yeah. Such a 3 ring circus tho. | |
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endiadj said: Funny, I read it as HER story WITH him. Again, nothing at all disrespectful about what was said concerning him. I know I sound vicious but I'm protective of Prince. Don't know if read the comments but the timing happens to be when she needs publicity the most. IMHO | |
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morningsong said:
Reading comprehension isn't your strongest quality is it? It can't be. My comment speaks strategically to those that are angry with him and/or blaming him for his own death as if it was bad virtue. You can be sorrowful and sad about his demise without making acerbic comments about his actions that may or may not have lead to death. "That's what he gets for being so stubborn!" Compassion and comeuppance are NOT the same thing. Who says that kind of shit? [Edited 6/23/16 15:33pm] | |
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wildgoldenhoney said: endiadj said: Funny, I read it as HER story WITH him. Again, nothing at all disrespectful about what was said concerning him. I know I sound vicious but I'm protective of Prince. Don't know if read the comments but the timing happens to be when she needs publicity the most. IMHO I get it about the timing, but like I said, she really didn't say anything that we didn't already know. | |
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You don't read well either, I see. [Edited 6/23/16 15:32pm] | |
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ACharmed1 said: No matter what, Judith Hill is going to live with what happened on that plane and the event that happened just a few days later. It's going to haunt her and I feel for her on that, but she has to lay in the bed she made. Having said that it seems to me she just didn't try hard enough to help him. Everyone around him said how he never complained or asked for help or pushed ppl away, it never occured to anyone to not take "no" or "I don't need help" as an answer? No man is an island. It's easy to sit here and say what I would've done but seriously if things went down like what she said on the plane with "Fixed eyes" that'd been it for me. I'd have asked Kirk to let me talk to him alone and make it clear to P that in light of what just happend I'm clearing my schedule and I'm gonna be Ur shadow until we get U straight. P could have dismissed me from his life in doing such a thing but atleast I'd have fought for him and with him. It makes me wonder if the reason why so many close to him didn't challenge him if they felt in their gut something was wrong, was for fear that they'd fall out of the Purple Paradise. A lot of these girls relied on him for their very livlihood as Judith pointed out she leaned on him hard and now she's on her own. For all the shoulda, woulda, coulda's, in this bottom line is there is no good, no silver lining. I just can't understand how everyone who was so close to him swears up and down there wasn't a single cause for concern leading up to this. If U look at photos of him at the Aussie shows and the final US shows U can see it written all over his face. Honestly, I think that his more recent friends may have been too new to the circle to recognize a significant decline if he was carrying himself the same way that he did when he first met them a few years ago. Damaris stated that she was not aware of anything except him saying that he had the flu, either. Sheila E. seems to be one of the few in tune to what he was experiencing...being of similar age, knowing him for 30+ years, and encountering her own injuries on stage. I recall her mentioning that she hadn't seen him in person in about 7 months when he died...so she may not have been able to realize the intensity to which things had culminated. Didn't Apollonia post on FB that she threatened to fly to Minneapolis after the plane incident but before the day he died? André Cymone said that he e-mailed him and he responded. Tamron Hall, Stella Blu, Sanaa Hamri all said they talked to him in the last week also. Prince literally probably had thousands of people checking on him after that. If no one flew out, then he must have really been convincing them all that he was OK...even the ones that had know him long-term. | |
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[Edited 6/23/16 16:23pm] "And I know you're not just what you say to me
And I'm not the only moment you're made of..." | |
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[Edited 6/23/16 15:51pm] You read a different comment and not mine, apparently and tried to belittle the apathy that you assumed that I had about the situation. Throughout this thread various people are making comments as if he deserved to die. Some of which were directly above my initial one. It's OK to be sad that he died, I am as well. It's not OK to be mad at HIM for it. We can be mad at the situation, without being mad at the person. It's like getting robbed and others being more upset with the person that was robbed than the thief. [Edited 6/23/16 16:13pm] | |
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endiadj said: wildgoldenhoney said: I know I sound vicious but I'm protective of Prince. Don't know if read the comments but the timing happens to be when she needs publicity the most. IMHO I get it about the timing, but like I said, she really didn't say anything that we didn't already know. There were new details that we didn't know, well it was new to me. What she did say got a lot of people TALKING. Even Dr. Drew, etc. So what I see is: Trending: Prince, #Princedeath, #princeprotoge, #Princeairplane, #Princeson, #Princefinaldays, #Prince Judith Hill piggybacked on Prince. Equals a lot of buzz surrounding Prince then u read about this Judith Hill chick. "Oh, she was on the plane with Prince? Hmm she must be important. Let me check her out". Equals: successful exposure. :shrug: That's the way they seem to play this game of advertising, promoting etc. :shrug: | |
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morningsong said:
Yeah, I know. This is long thread, though. Some comments in here were really disrespectful to him even in anger. I just really wish that he wasn't dead. | |
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Keep Calm & Listen To Prince | |
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if some are expecting those who were involved with prince to never speak on their relationship with him or what he was going through, then you might as well hide in a cave, give up the net, tv, radio, newspapers, etc., cause many of them will. i'm just hoping they will all be as respectful as judith has been. [Edited 6/23/16 16:45pm] | |
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morningsong said:
Just because it's common and everyone is a user, that doesn't mean I have to agree and overlook this point. :shrug: | |
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Hey, I'm just sayin that it stinks.
Too bad u have a problem with someone else expressing their own thoughts on this. I'm having my say too. , [Edited 6/23/16 16:50pm] | |
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I get what U're saying and I agree that ppl who have known him for an extended period of years may have known better than those that just joined his camp or knew him only a few years or off and on. But even if he was good at hiding things U can't hide somethings no matter how hard U try eyes truely are the windows to the soul. This photo keeps coming to my mind. I know some ppl will say it's hindsight, he was in the moment, that's passion, no it isn't, that's pain; be it phyisical, emotional, spiritual, or all of the above. His personal photographer also noticed something off when she took the last photo of him in Australia. | |
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ACharmed1 said:
I get what U're saying and I agree that ppl who have known him for an extended period of years may have known better than those that just joined his camp or knew him only a few years or off and on. But even if he was good at hiding things U can't hide somethings no matter how hard U try eyes truely are the windows to the soul. This photo keeps coming to my mind. I know some ppl will say it's hindsight, he was in the moment, that's passion, no it isn't, that's pain; be it phyisical, emotional, spiritual, or all of the above. His personal photographer also noticed something off when she took the last photo of him in Australia. He does look sad. Wasn't he in Australia around the time Vanity died? He didn't look like he felt too great at the Warriors game, either in March. The one convincing recent picture I can say that I have seen is the passport photo. Other than that, he looked a bit restless. Poor baby. | |
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. Agree. Don't forget that after P* produced her album, he called the media in for ideas on how to promote it. I think he'd be happy she gained at least something from these events.
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morningsong said:
Yeah, u sound resigned and a bit depressed. U don't seem like urself. But none of us do. | |
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I'm in between bargaining and depression with a dose of anger thrown in. And sorrow too, cause I think he was in real pain, both physical and emotional. So can you be in all of those stages up there at once? | |
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CROWNS1 said: I'm in between bargaining and depression with a dose of anger thrown in. And sorrow too, cause I think he was in real pain, both physical and emotional. So can you be in all of those stages up there at once? Yes "Almost all art is trying to become an anaesthetic and at the same time a healing session drawing up the magical electrics.” | |
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Yeah he was in Australia when she passed, and that was an emotionally driven show by all accounts. This is the last photo his photographer Justine Walpole took of him. | |
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ACharmed1 said: No matter what, Judith Hill is going to live with what happened on that plane and the event that happened just a few days later. It's going to haunt her and I feel for her on that, but she has to lay in the bed she made. Having said that it seems to me she just didn't try hard enough to help him. Everyone around him said how he never complained or asked for help or pushed ppl away, it never occured to anyone to not take "no" or "I don't need help" as an answer? No man is an island. It's easy to sit here and say what I would've done but seriously if things went down like what she said on the plane with "Fixed eyes" that'd been it for me. I'd have asked Kirk to let me talk to him alone and make it clear to P that in light of what just happend I'm clearing my schedule and I'm gonna be Ur shadow until we get U straight. P could have dismissed me from his life in doing such a thing but atleast I'd have fought for him and with him. It makes me wonder if the reason why so many close to him didn't challenge him if they felt in their gut something was wrong, was for fear that they'd fall out of the Purple Paradise. A lot of these girls relied on him for their very livlihood as Judith pointed out she leaned on him hard and now she's on her own. For all the shoulda, woulda, coulda's, in this bottom line is there is no good, no silver lining. I just can't understand how everyone who was so close to him swears up and down there wasn't a single cause for concern leading up to this. If U look at photos of him at the Aussie shows and the final US shows U can see it written all over his face. 110% agree. | |
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