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Reply #510 posted 06/23/16 7:16am

ohYeeeeeah

blue22 said:

Even though people he knew at certain times in his life were not around him at the end of his life, it will still affect them. I'm thinking of Wendy in particular, who lost a brother to an overdose. That's gotta be tough on her and Suzannah. And after P wrote a song about him, for him to succumb to similar circumstances, no wonder he distanced himself from certain people.

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The newbies were around him and he it sounds like no family were around much or at all.

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A very sad case overall.

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I know alot of musicians are on this site. Some of you may already be famous or about to be. I hope you take a page out of Prince's life and not go down the same path. Keep the right people around you at all times. And good luck. And be safe and healthy.

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The overdose, drug addicted musician story is so old and boring now.

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How about dying of old age for a change.

How stupid is that? How can one compare a junkie taking coke or heroïne and people suffering from chronic pains and who need medecine on a daily basis? Totally ignorant.

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Reply #511 posted 06/23/16 7:19am

udo

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ohYeeeeeah said:

How stupid is that? How can one compare a junkie taking coke or heroïne and people suffering from chronic pains and who need medecine on a daily basis? Totally ignorant.

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How much difference is there?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #512 posted 06/23/16 7:21am

laytonian

AA1slot said:

In reading the Twitter messages of those in P's inner circle and protecting his privacy...that's why there are interventions and two, it is a way to keep one's conscience clear when doing nothing. He had a right to his privacy and to do whatever he wanted. I agree that we as the public really have no right to expect more information. However, the lack of action in the guise of privacy appears as an attempt to protect their own butts. I know there is nothing to say they didnt try to do anything, however there is nothing to suggest that they did either.

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CJ (Billie Jack Bitch) and a retired stewardess who got to know Prince fairly well are all over Judith Hill this morning in the Minneapolis Star-Tribune for not staying with him.

"Why didn't she keep him in the hospital? Why was he all by himself that night? That I don't understand," said Bosch. "They all knew he had a problem, so you wait to the last minute to get him help? A day late and a dollar short, don't you think?"


http://www.startribune.com/c-j-should-prince-s-friends-have-watched-him-more-closely-after-moline/384051341/

Interestingly, it's been obvious lately that CJ was in love with Prince.

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Reply #513 posted 06/23/16 7:27am

LuxLove

laytonian said:

Interestingly, it's been obvious lately that CJ was in love with Prince.

Is there any woman who isn't lol

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Reply #514 posted 06/23/16 7:42am

MrNelson7

MMJas said:

clairew1975 said:

She's on twitter - jeannettelovesu - her bio says "to the world he was Prince, to me he was Penguin".

According to her Twitter, and she's been posting ALOT, they were dating.

She won't back it up with evidence (pictures etc) just says Prince's close "confidante" knows - which I assume is Kirky J??????

Is that the girl who, 2 days after his shocking passing, was all excited on twitter over some chocolate flavoured new icecream or whatever? Please... bored2

Checked it out. That poor girl is delusional. eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek

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Reply #515 posted 06/23/16 8:00am

traceyp23

LuxLove said:

laytonian said:

Interestingly, it's been obvious lately that CJ was in love with Prince.

Is there any woman who isn't lol

No. Well, maybe there were a few who just didn't know it yet. wink

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Reply #516 posted 06/23/16 8:01am

morningsong

clairew1975 said:



NinaB said:


MrNelson7 said:



OK, somebody needs to explain the penguin girl to me. Direct me to the thread!



I think that thread was deleted. It was some girl on twitter who went on about being his secret girlfriend. Let's just say she was special.


She's on twitter - jeannettelovesu - her bio says "to the world he was Prince, to me he was Penguin".

According to her Twitter, and she's been posting ALOT, they were dating.

She won't back it up with evidence (pictures etc) just says Prince's close "confidante" knows - which I assume is Kirky J?????



For some strange reason I believe Prince was running around with her and probably one or 2 others like her. I don't think it was anything serious on his part, just I don't know, something he did. He had his reasons.
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Reply #517 posted 06/23/16 8:50am

jumanji2016

MMJas said:



1Sasha said:



Well, the infamous C.J. of BJB immortality (and the Minneapolis Star Tribune) added Judith Hill to her list of people who should have been sticking to Prince "like glue" after the Moline incident. I don't disagree with her.




I totally agree. No way I'd go away. Might not have been able to stay at PP, but would be close enough. I dunno, in retrospect it's all very easy to judge and say I'd do this and I wouldn't do that.



Exactly. Especially when it's your first time witnessing it. It's very logical for Judith to have thought that it was an isolated incident and that it scared him enough to get some things checked out. He continued biking, went to the doctor---I mean, I'd imagine that I would have been convinced that it would not occur again. Especially when the news of the landing reached the public. Judith had a gig in LA on 4/16. She would have literally had to cancel without 24-hours notice if she stayed in MN. Prince likely told her to attend her gig and that he was going to the doctor and that everything would be OK. I'm sure in his heart he thought he would be OK too.
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Reply #518 posted 06/23/16 8:53am

jumanji2016

udo said:[quote]



BartVanHemelen said:




nursev said:



He hid it cause he was a perfectionist



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Oh for crying out loud, dude was NOT a perfectionist.



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How can a person dispute an abstract quality in a stranger? eek
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Reply #519 posted 06/23/16 9:18am

rogifan

MrNelson7 said:



MMJas said:




clairew1975 said:




She's on twitter - jeannettelovesu - her bio says "to the world he was Prince, to me he was Penguin".

According to her Twitter, and she's been posting ALOT, they were dating.

She won't back it up with evidence (pictures etc) just says Prince's close "confidante" knows - which I assume is Kirky J?????



Is that the girl who, 2 days after his shocking passing, was all excited on twitter over some chocolate flavoured new icecream or whatever? Please... bored2



Checked it out. That poor girl is delusional. eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek


Holy cow. Delusional is an understatement. eek
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Reply #520 posted 06/23/16 9:23am

rogifan

nelcp777 said:



rogifan said:


RachB65 said:
There are some terrible comments left on that story, many of them scoffing the NYT for even running the article...The cruelty being directed at Prince, Judith and the article being on the site/paper is depressing as hell. Ive spent over an hour replying to some of the ignorant people who spewed their shit. But its a losing battle..every time i go back to the site there are more mean words. Such BS

You should know never to even open the comments section on news articles. It's the absolute worst of the internet. The NYT shouldn't have even allowed comments on that article.

I agree with you. I try to refrain from reading comments on news articles. If the comments are reflective of the state of the world, it is a scary world out there.



Talk about troll city. Not every NYT article allows comments. I swear they allowed comments just so the article would get more clicks.
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Reply #521 posted 06/23/16 9:24am

Eileen

disch said:

I'm kind of tired of the various self-proclaimed good/best friends declaring what other friends/associates should and should not talk about publicly.


Yes. And interesting about the back-biting over who real friends are and aren't - I don't recall this kind of childish bunk from any of the working Mpls crews (Wendy, Sonny, St Paul, etc.)

disch said:

Judith Hill spoke about HER story -- it was something SHE experienced. It's not like she was repeating gossip she heard second hand. This incident is part of HER life (in the article, she talked a lot about how she felt because of it).

Everyone has a right to tell their own stories and their own truth


Yes, this is so important. And regardless of why she did it, it certainly presents as more mature than gaming about who is or isn't a real or phony friend.

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Reply #522 posted 06/23/16 9:27am

rogifan

1Sasha said:


Well, the infamous C.J. of BJB immortality (and the Minneapolis Star Tribune) added Judith Hill to her list of people who should have been sticking to Prince "like glue" after the Moline incident. I don't disagree with her.


It's so easy to criticize and second guess after the fact and from the outsid3 looking in without all the facts. CJ needs to shut the f**k up. Everyone criticizing the people around Prince at that time should do the same. None of us can make informed opinions because there is so very little that we know.
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Reply #523 posted 06/23/16 10:08am

cardinal

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fwiw, dr drew weighed in on this article last night. he is of the mind that this falls pretty squarely on the shoulders of the caregivers, ESPECIALLY when the patient is having clouded thinking. prince may have trusted kirk's dr., but it sounds like none of the drs he recently saw were equipped to deal with his needs. they should have put their damn egos aside and reached out for consults with experts. poor prince was dying perhaps multiple times, and the fricking junior varsity team was fumbling around trying to help him.

drew says it is another failure of dr ego and a broken care system. he makes a compelling case.
"If u love somebody, your life won't be in vain
And there's always a rainbow, at the end of every rain."--peace and love, dear prince.....
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Reply #524 posted 06/23/16 10:13am

ConsciousConta
ct

blue22 said:

Even though people he knew at certain times in his life were not around him at the end of his life, it will still affect them. I'm thinking of Wendy in particular, who lost a brother to an overdose. That's gotta be tough on her and Suzannah. And after P wrote a song about him, for him to succumb to similar circumstances, no wonder he distanced himself from certain people.

-

The newbies were around him and he it sounds like no family were around much or at all.

-

A very sad case overall.

-

I know alot of musicians are on this site. Some of you may already be famous or about to be. I hope you take a page out of Prince's life and not go down the same path. Keep the right people around you at all times. And good luck. And be safe and healthy.

-

The overdose, drug addicted musician story is so old and boring now.

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How about dying of old age for a change.



How about getting over the obsession with age and celebrating the life he lived and that he may have experienced more aliveness and greatness in a week of his life than some "old" people do their whole lives.

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Reply #525 posted 06/23/16 10:16am

PurpleDiamonds
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FUNKNROLL said:

wildgoldenhoney said:


Stopit, I really hope that isn't true.

One thing reading this article that I appreciate is that he didn't want to die, and came back no matter how hard it was to it.
sad sad


In the article - she did make it a point to mention her upcoming east coast tour.
Seems questionable.


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sad poor Prince sad
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Reply #526 posted 06/23/16 10:35am

morningsong

cardinal said:

fwiw, dr drew weighed in on this article last night. he is of the mind that this falls pretty squarely on the shoulders of the caregivers, ESPECIALLY when the patient is having clouded thinking. prince may have trusted kirk's dr., but it sounds like none of the drs he recently saw were equipped to deal with his needs. they should have put their damn egos aside and reached out for consults with experts. poor prince was dying perhaps multiple times, and the fricking junior varsity team was fumbling around trying to help him. drew says it is another failure of dr ego and a broken care system. he makes a compelling case.


This would be so horrible if all this is due to a frikkin' accident and lack of attention.

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Reply #527 posted 06/23/16 10:40am

laytonian

morningsong said:

cardinal said:

fwiw, dr drew weighed in on this article last night. he is of the mind that this falls pretty squarely on the shoulders of the caregivers, ESPECIALLY when the patient is having clouded thinking. prince may have trusted kirk's dr., but it sounds like none of the drs he recently saw were equipped to deal with his needs. they should have put their damn egos aside and reached out for consults with experts. poor prince was dying perhaps multiple times, and the fricking junior varsity team was fumbling around trying to help him. drew says it is another failure of dr ego and a broken care system. he makes a compelling case.


This would be so horrible if all this is due to a frikkin' accident and lack of attention.

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It goes back to "Why a doctor from California?"

MEANWHILE, right there in Minnesota, is the Betty Ford Hazeldon Clinic.

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Reply #528 posted 06/23/16 10:43am

luvsexy4all

laytonian said:

morningsong said:


This would be so horrible if all this is due to a frikkin' accident and lack of attention.

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It goes back to "Why a doctor from California?"

MEANWHILE, right there in Minnesota, is the Betty Ford Hazeldon Clinic.

because dumbass prince was more worried about his rep than being diligent

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Reply #529 posted 06/23/16 10:53am

morningsong

luvsexy4all said:

laytonian said:

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It goes back to "Why a doctor from California?"

MEANWHILE, right there in Minnesota, is the Betty Ford Hazeldon Clinic.

because dumbass prince was more worried about his rep than being diligent



Really? Really? No leeway at all, just a dumbass.

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Reply #530 posted 06/23/16 10:56am

morningsong

laytonian said:

morningsong said:


This would be so horrible if all this is due to a frikkin' accident and lack of attention.

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It goes back to "Why a doctor from California?"

MEANWHILE, right there in Minnesota, is the Betty Ford Hazeldon Clinic.



Yeah, it's making less sense.

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Reply #531 posted 06/23/16 11:04am

Obsessed

AnnaStesia10 said:

Wow! Even though I agree she is saying alot without say anything that is frustrating. But sadly this is the most we have gotten in weeks. It sounds to me like she is admitting he knew he had a drug issue and was trying to seek help. So this poses more questions in my mind, what the heck happened on 4/20-4/21/16? I don't see if he had a close call like that using the same drugs that almost killed him just 6 days prior. Man, have more questions now. Unless the whole ordeal just wore his body out. And yet they found Fentanyl in his system wonder how long that stays in your system? Oh man, oh man.

RIGHT!! I'm just saying it makes no sense that after such a close call that he would make that same mistake again. Nothing has added up in my opinion and that's frustrating. The more info that is released the more confused by everything I am.

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Reply #532 posted 06/23/16 11:17am

Tresha68

Marta said:

morningsong said:




Back in 2011 she made a facebook comment that pretty much compared Prince to Charlie Sheen. And we all knew Charlie's drug issues back then. Then after she got some pretty bad feedback, she removed it and sort of apologized maybe, but it still sounded like she was implying Prince had a problem.

Thank you. ..I found it.
"Hoping never to see prince on 20/20 doing a charlie sheen-esque rant. so sad."

I guess she thought we all would know what she was talking about by osmosis.

Yet..she "reached out" to him a week before he died (..thank goodness, he didn't reach back) to let him know that she wanted to "build a school in his honor"..an she thought he would want to be involved in choosing a location (..and perhaps show his interest via his wallet. Oops..did I type that?! ..And or get him all attached to her ba-a-abies. ..Oops...again. The schools that she now has his fans funding under the guise of "honoring" him. ...Riding the wave while it's hot.

Sorry ..kind of/sort of....that's jmvho.
[Edited 6/22/16 22:34pm]
[Edited 6/23/16 4:50am]


I have no respect for a woman who would deliberately go after a married man who just lost a child. I don't care for her. Prince Mae it clear and Mayte is the only one he called his soul mate. Mani is just despicable. I commend her charity efforts, but that's as far as it goes.
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Reply #533 posted 06/23/16 11:20am

morningsong

Obsessed said:

AnnaStesia10 said:

Wow! Even though I agree she is saying alot without say anything that is frustrating. But sadly this is the most we have gotten in weeks. It sounds to me like she is admitting he knew he had a drug issue and was trying to seek help. So this poses more questions in my mind, what the heck happened on 4/20-4/21/16? I don't see if he had a close call like that using the same drugs that almost killed him just 6 days prior. Man, have more questions now. Unless the whole ordeal just wore his body out. And yet they found Fentanyl in his system wonder how long that stays in your system? Oh man, oh man.

RIGHT!! I'm just saying it makes no sense that after such a close call that he would make that same mistake again. Nothing has added up in my opinion and that's frustrating. The more info that is released the more confused by everything I am.




Personally, I don't think he was thinking clearly, he was just trying to behave like everything was normal, he needed serious intervention.

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Reply #534 posted 06/23/16 11:36am

PeteSilas

morningsong said:

luvsexy4all said:

because dumbass prince was more worried about his rep than being diligent



Really? Really? No leeway at all, just a dumbass.

I've been tempted to say those kinds of things too, but it's just out of anger and frustration. Sadly, it very well may be true. People say prince looked pissed off at the saturday night pp gathering. as if he was more upset about the news getting out than he was about almost dying. those are some twisted priorities. I could see it happening like that though, knowing Prince.

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Reply #535 posted 06/23/16 11:41am

PurpleDiamonds
1

morningsong said:



laytonian said:




morningsong said:




This would be so horrible if all this is due to a frikkin' accident and lack of attention.



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It goes back to "Why a doctor from California?"


MEANWHILE, right there in Minnesota, is the Betty Ford Hazeldon Clinic.





Yeah, it's making less sense.


Yeah that^^^^
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Reply #536 posted 06/23/16 11:44am

jumanji2016

Is America the only place where people get upset and blame the deceased for dying? I mean, it is an inevitable part of life, whether he took maximum precaution or not...he's still the victim of the circumstance...not us. People are acting as if he's inconveniencing them or some shit.
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Reply #537 posted 06/23/16 11:44am

morningsong

PeteSilas said:

morningsong said:



Really? Really? No leeway at all, just a dumbass.

I've been tempted to say those kinds of things too, but it's just out of anger and frustration. Sadly, it very well may be true. People say prince looked pissed off at the saturday night pp gathering. as if he was more upset about the news getting out than he was about almost dying. those are some twisted priorities. I could see it happening like that though, knowing Prince.



I swing in and out of anger too, I get it, I've even said I could smack him one. I just honestly don't think he was thinking clearly, and that he was more likely just reacting, doing what he normally did to get control of things. Almost dying didn't get added into the equation.

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Reply #538 posted 06/23/16 12:20pm

laurarichardso
n

udo said:



ohYeeeeeah said:



How stupid is that? How can one compare a junkie taking coke or heroïne and people suffering from chronic pains and who need medecine on a daily basis? Totally ignorant.



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How much difference is there?


//Do you really need that explained to you. 😳 People are prescribed Rx and no one is given crack by their doctor. I hope you never have any surgery because you will be given pain meds and your ass will take them or you will run your head into a wall.
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Reply #539 posted 06/23/16 12:24pm

StephanieThePi
sces

clairew1975 said:

MMJas said:

Is that the girl who, 2 days after his shocking passing, was all excited on twitter over some chocolate flavoured new icecream or whatever? Please... bored2

Yep, that's the one......she literally posted they were dating days after the news broke. She's mentioning P (or penguin lol) every single damn day in one way or another *sigh*

Interestingly, after two months of posting incessently about "Penguin" and little stories about their very Disney, cutesy "romance", she (ironically) retweeted the Damaris and Kiran tweets about respecting Prince's privacy and keeping quiet about him and in the last day or two hasn't posted really anything about him at all.

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A lot of what she says and claims doesn't add up, and even seemingly mundane remarks she makes about the weather in MN (I live in the Twin Cities as well) often don't match up with what the actual weather here IS that day. I obviously have no proof but I suspect she doesn't even live here in Minnesota.

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Also interesting to note that on another site she describes herself in her bio as "an actress, writer, director, and visionary." I feel like this whole Twitter thing about she and Prince being in love, and all those fairytale romance anecdotes she was posting, was some kind of performance art.

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