Why is everyone so up in arms over people buying bootlegs? Prince is sadly no longer with us, and anyone that would profit off the sale of his music at this point has about as much right to it as we do. Frankly P did his fans a disservice throughout the years by not letting his albums get re-mastered on CD. I know the issues with record labels were partly to blame, but come on, it could have gotten done. Well guess what? I just got the 2011 Purple Rain remaster and it sounds incredible. I will have 1999 and Controversy here in the next few weeks. These should have been out a long time ago. Sorry but I don't feel bad about buying them. If anything, bootlegs will keep his legacy alive going forward. Just my 2 cents.

Whoever has the right to profit from the sale of Prince material, has exactly that: the right. To say that we have just as much right is absolute nonsense.

Recordings cannot be properly remastered without the actual masters, so however good you think Purple Rain sounds, I can't believe it's anywhere near as good as what it would sound like when done right. It's nothing but tweaking.

There's no need to pay for boots. They're all out there for free if you know where to look.

khelm9 said:

Why is everyone so up in arms over people buying bootlegs? Prince is sadly no longer with us, and anyone that would profit off the sale of his music at this point has about as much right to it as we do. Frankly P did his fans a disservice throughout the years by not letting his albums get re-mastered on CD. I know the issues with record labels were partly to blame, but come on, it could have gotten done. Well guess what? I just got the 2011 Purple Rain remaster and it sounds incredible. I will have 1999 and Controversy here in the next few weeks. These should have been out a long time ago. Sorry but I don't feel bad about buying them. If anything, bootlegs will keep his legacy alive going forward. Just my 2 cents.

This reminds me of something us old people noticed a few years ago:

My generation paid for its music and we got Prince, Springsteen, Bowie, Hendrix, Dylan, the Stones, Aerosmith, etc., etc., etc.

The last couple generations mostly steal their music and they get Beiber, Rihanna, Kanye West, Drake, etc., etc., etc.

I guess you get what you pay for.

khelm9 said:

1. Why is everyone so up in arms over people buying bootlegs? Prince is sadly no longer with us, and anyone that would profit off the sale of his music at this point has about as much right to it as we do.
2. Frankly P did his fans a disservice throughout the years by not letting his albums get re-mastered on CD. I know the issues with record labels were partly to blame, but come on, it could have gotten done.
3. Well guess what? I just got the 2011 Purple Rain remaster and it sounds incredible. I will have 1999 and Controversy here in the next few weeks. These should have been out a long time ago. Sorry but I don't feel bad about buying them. If anything, bootlegs will keep his legacy alive going forward. Just my 2 cents.

1. Because nobody should be spending money on bootlegs. They are widely available on the internet in lossless quality -- for free. On ebay, they aren't listed as bootlegs -- and the quality is incredibly poor (see the Piano & Microphone boots). Supposedly there's a Piano & Microphone record ready to go in perfect sound quality. In other words -- pay for good quality -- download the audience recordings for free off the internet. Don't give anyone $800 for a 2CD bootleg.
2. Everyone except those that could find no wrong in anything Prince did while alive -- and now dead, apparently, agrees with you completely (on this alone).
3. Are you saying that you knowingly spent anything more than a nickel on remasters that weren't actually remasters -- but were bootlegs? If so, ! If you're actually referring to the vinyl remasters from the past couple of years... then those aren't bootlegs.

If you want to throw your money away, good for you. Do it while you can because eventually someone from the estate/trust will crackdown on ebay/amazon and other online sites where sellers are lying to buyers by not telling them that they are spending $800 on audience recordings. The estate/trust will shut down all of the fake CDs that were never released on CD.

RodeoSchro said:

khelm9 said:

Why is everyone so up in arms over people buying bootlegs? Prince is sadly no longer with us, and anyone that would profit off the sale of his music at this point has about as much right to it as we do. Frankly P did his fans a disservice throughout the years by not letting his albums get re-mastered on CD. I know the issues with record labels were partly to blame, but come on, it could have gotten done. Well guess what? I just got the 2011 Purple Rain remaster and it sounds incredible. I will have 1999 and Controversy here in the next few weeks. These should have been out a long time ago. Sorry but I don't feel bad about buying them. If anything, bootlegs will keep his legacy alive going forward. Just my 2 cents.

This reminds me of something us old people noticed a few years ago:

My generation paid for its music and we got Prince, Springsteen, Bowie, Hendrix, Dylan, the Stones, Aerosmith, etc., etc., etc.

The last couple generations mostly steal their music and they get Beiber, Rihanna, Kanye West, Drake, etc., etc., etc.

I guess you get what you pay for.

"I guess you get what you pay for"......Well said.

suomynona said:

khelm9 said:

1. Why is everyone so up in arms over people buying bootlegs? Prince is sadly no longer with us, and anyone that would profit off the sale of his music at this point has about as much right to it as we do.
2. Frankly P did his fans a disservice throughout the years by not letting his albums get re-mastered on CD. I know the issues with record labels were partly to blame, but come on, it could have gotten done.
3. Well guess what? I just got the 2011 Purple Rain remaster and it sounds incredible. I will have 1999 and Controversy here in the next few weeks. These should have been out a long time ago. Sorry but I don't feel bad about buying them. If anything, bootlegs will keep his legacy alive going forward. Just my 2 cents.

1. Because nobody should be spending money on bootlegs. They are widely available on the internet in lossless quality -- for free. On ebay, they aren't listed as bootlegs -- and the quality is incredibly poor (see the Piano & Microphone boots). Supposedly there's a Piano & Microphone record ready to go in perfect sound quality. In other words -- pay for good quality -- download the audience recordings for free off the internet. Don't give anyone $800 for a 2CD bootleg.
2. Everyone except those that could find no wrong in anything Prince did while alive -- and now dead, apparently, agrees with you completely (on this alone).
3. Are you saying that you knowingly spent anything more than a nickel on remasters that weren't actually remasters -- but were bootlegs? If so, ! If you're actually referring to the vinyl remasters from the past couple of years... then those aren't bootlegs.

If you want to throw your money away, good for you. Do it while you can because eventually someone from the estate/trust will crackdown on ebay/amazon and other online sites where sellers are lying to buyers by not telling them that they are spending $800 on audience recordings. The estate/trust will shut down all of the fake CDs that were never released on CD.

OK poor wording on my part. Yes, these are the 2011 remasters and are as you put it, lossless quality. Bootleg is probably not the right word for these recordings.

RodeoSchro said:

khelm9 said:

Why is everyone so up in arms over people buying bootlegs? Prince is sadly no longer with us, and anyone that would profit off the sale of his music at this point has about as much right to it as we do. Frankly P did his fans a disservice throughout the years by not letting his albums get re-mastered on CD. I know the issues with record labels were partly to blame, but come on, it could have gotten done. Well guess what? I just got the 2011 Purple Rain remaster and it sounds incredible. I will have 1999 and Controversy here in the next few weeks. These should have been out a long time ago. Sorry but I don't feel bad about buying them. If anything, bootlegs will keep his legacy alive going forward. Just my 2 cents.

This reminds me of something us old people noticed a few years ago:

My generation paid for its music and we got Prince, Springsteen, Bowie, Hendrix, Dylan, the Stones, Aerosmith, etc., etc., etc.

The last couple generations mostly steal their music and they get Beiber, Rihanna, Kanye West, Drake, etc., etc., etc.

I guess you get what you pay for.

I should not have said that we have a "right" to it. What I meant is that if it's available, and not availble anywhere else, then we should be able to buy it. I want to have the actual CD in may hand. I don't like streaming music at all. If the remasters were released to the public I would be there on day one paying good money for them. But since they are not, and they are available 2nd hand, I don't see the crime.

khelm9 said:

OK poor wording on my part. Yes, these are the 2011 remasters and are as you put it, lossless quality. Bootleg is probably not the right word for these recordings.

You mean you bought official releases, not bootlegs? If that's the case, it doesn't really make sense to say "I don't feel bad about buying them..."

RodeoSchro said:

khelm9 said:

Why is everyone so up in arms over people buying bootlegs? Prince is sadly no longer with us, and anyone that would profit off the sale of his music at this point has about as much right to it as we do. Frankly P did his fans a disservice throughout the years by not letting his albums get re-mastered on CD. I know the issues with record labels were partly to blame, but come on, it could have gotten done. Well guess what? I just got the 2011 Purple Rain remaster and it sounds incredible. I will have 1999 and Controversy here in the next few weeks. These should have been out a long time ago. Sorry but I don't feel bad about buying them. If anything, bootlegs will keep his legacy alive going forward. Just my 2 cents.

This reminds me of something us old people noticed a few years ago:

My generation paid for its music and we got Prince, Springsteen, Bowie, Hendrix, Dylan, the Stones, Aerosmith, etc., etc., etc.

The last couple generations mostly steal their music and they get Beiber, Rihanna, Kanye West, Drake, etc., etc., etc.

I guess you get what you pay for.

RodeoSchro said:

airth said:

khelm9 said:

OK poor wording on my part. Yes, these are the 2011 remasters and are as you put it, lossless quality. Bootleg is probably not the right word for these recordings.

You mean you bought official releases, not bootlegs? If that's the case, it doesn't really make sense to say "I don't feel bad about buying them..."

When were they officially released to the public? On CD?

HANA NANA NANA NANA BOOTLEGS, NANA NANA NANA NANA BOOTLEGS, BOOTLEGS, BATDANCE... BOOTLEGS.

khelm9 said:

khelm9 said:

breakdown2k14 said:

khelm9 said:

Why is everyone so up in arms over people buying bootlegs? Prince is sadly no longer with us, and anyone that would profit off the sale of his music at this point has about as much right to it as we do. Frankly P did his fans a disservice throughout the years by not letting his albums get re-mastered on CD. I know the issues with record labels were partly to blame, but come on, it could have gotten done. Well guess what? I just got the 2011 Purple Rain remaster and it sounds incredible. I will have 1999 and Controversy here in the next few weeks. These should have been out a long time ago. Sorry but I don't feel bad about buying them. If anything, bootlegs will keep his legacy alive going forward. Just my 2 cents.

is the 2011 purple rain album in CD format? Is it on amazon?

Yes it is.

breakdown2k14 said:

khelm9 said:

Why is everyone so up in arms over people buying bootlegs? Prince is sadly no longer with us, and anyone that would profit off the sale of his music at this point has about as much right to it as we do. Frankly P did his fans a disservice throughout the years by not letting his albums get re-mastered on CD. I know the issues with record labels were partly to blame, but come on, it could have gotten done. Well guess what? I just got the 2011 Purple Rain remaster and it sounds incredible. I will have 1999 and Controversy here in the next few weeks. These should have been out a long time ago. Sorry but I don't feel bad about buying them. If anything, bootlegs will keep his legacy alive going forward. Just my 2 cents.

is the 2011 purple rain album in CD format? Is it on amazon?

It IS in CD format, it is NOT on Amazon

khelm9 said:

RodeoSchro said:

khelm9 said:

Why is everyone so up in arms over people buying bootlegs? Prince is sadly no longer with us, and anyone that would profit off the sale of his music at this point has about as much right to it as we do. Frankly P did his fans a disservice throughout the years by not letting his albums get re-mastered on CD. I know the issues with record labels were partly to blame, but come on, it could have gotten done. Well guess what? I just got the 2011 Purple Rain remaster and it sounds incredible. I will have 1999 and Controversy here in the next few weeks. These should have been out a long time ago. Sorry but I don't feel bad about buying them. If anything, bootlegs will keep his legacy alive going forward. Just my 2 cents.

This reminds me of something us old people noticed a few years ago:

My generation paid for its music and we got Prince, Springsteen, Bowie, Hendrix, Dylan, the Stones, Aerosmith, etc., etc., etc.

The last couple generations mostly steal their music and they get Beiber, Rihanna, Kanye West, Drake, etc., etc., etc.

I guess you get what you pay for.

It's a bit unfair because we also had Kylie Minogue, New Kids On The Block, Sandra, Jason Donovan and so on. Commercial crap had coexisted with true artists since the very beginning of the record industry. The only difference is that real talents, for the most part, are not being pushed by majors as much as they were, so the general public is less aware of their existence, and it's a pity, but they are still there and they still get record deals. I listen to a shitload of new/young artists, and there's a shitload of talented ones, only their music is more confidential than it used to, but they're here if u're curious enough to find them.

breakdown2k14 said:

khelm9 said:

It IS in CD format, it is NOT on Amazon

where can I buy it?

I think he's talking about the HD 192 24bit version on HD TRACKS.

suomynona said:

khelm9 said:

1. Why is everyone so up in arms over people buying bootlegs? Prince is sadly no longer with us, and anyone that would profit off the sale of his music at this point has about as much right to it as we do.
2. Frankly P did his fans a disservice throughout the years by not letting his albums get re-mastered on CD. I know the issues with record labels were partly to blame, but come on, it could have gotten done.
3. Well guess what? I just got the 2011 Purple Rain remaster and it sounds incredible. I will have 1999 and Controversy here in the next few weeks. These should have been out a long time ago. Sorry but I don't feel bad about buying them. If anything, bootlegs will keep his legacy alive going forward. Just my 2 cents.

Don't give anyone $800 for a 2CD bootleg.

Those prices, God! Some people must really be rich to bid hundreds of bucks on audience recordings just to have a fake pressed CD with a fake booklet on a shelf, when they could have the Flac files for free!!! I mean being willing to pay 20 bucks why not, but the sums I see when I click on your link!

databank said:

suomynona said:

Don't give anyone $800 for a 2CD bootleg.

Those prices, God! Some people must really be rich to bid hundreds of bucks on audience recordings just to have a fake pressed CD with a fake booklet on a shelf, when they could have the Flac files for free!!! I mean being willing to pay 20 bucks why not, but the sums I see when I click on your link!

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????????

THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED? I'm speechless. People are stupid.

RodeoSchro said:

khelm9 said:

Why is everyone so up in arms over people buying bootlegs? Prince is sadly no longer with us, and anyone that would profit off the sale of his music at this point has about as much right to it as we do. Frankly P did his fans a disservice throughout the years by not letting his albums get re-mastered on CD. I know the issues with record labels were partly to blame, but come on, it could have gotten done. Well guess what? I just got the 2011 Purple Rain remaster and it sounds incredible. I will have 1999 and Controversy here in the next few weeks. These should have been out a long time ago. Sorry but I don't feel bad about buying them. If anything, bootlegs will keep his legacy alive going forward. Just my 2 cents.

This reminds me of something us old people noticed a few years ago:

My generation paid for its music and we got Prince, Springsteen, Bowie, Hendrix, Dylan, the Stones, Aerosmith, etc., etc., etc.

The last couple generations mostly steal their music and they get Beiber, Rihanna, Kanye West, Drake, etc., etc., etc.

I guess you get what you pay for.

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I know you meant this to be deep and all "Lol young people" but...uh. I hate to break it to you that this is neither deep nor clever.

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Prince, Hendrix, Dylan, and the Rolling Stones were heavily bootlegged. Your generation stole their music and sold it at a profit for yourselves. Also, Aerosmith just sucks.

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Kanye West and Rihanna blew up before the advent of mass piracy and album leaks. Drake rode in on the internet mixtape wave, releasing all his music for free, himself.

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I'm sorry for interrupting your attempt at dunking on millennials but uh...yeah.

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khelm9 said:

Why is everyone so up in arms over people buying bootlegs?

Only idiots BUY bootlegs. The enlightened share them for NOTHING.

SPYZFAN1 said:

Marrk said:

RodeoSchro said:

databank said:

RodeoSchro said:

This reminds me of something us old people noticed a few years ago:

My generation paid for its music and we got Prince, Springsteen, Bowie, Hendrix, Dylan, the Stones, Aerosmith, etc., etc., etc.

The last couple generations mostly steal their music and they get Beiber, Rihanna, Kanye West, Drake, etc., etc., etc.

I guess you get what you pay for.

It's a bit unfair because we also had Kylie Minogue, New Kids On The Block, Sandra, Jason Donovan and so on. Commercial crap had coexisted with true artists since the very beginning of the record industry. The only difference is that real talents, for the most part, are not being pushed by majors as much as they were, so the general public is less aware of their existence, and it's a pity, but they are still there and they still get record deals. I listen to a shitload of new/young artists, and there's a shitload of talented ones, only their music is more confidential than it used to, but they're here if u're curious enough to find them.

Hey now! Kylie has some awesome stuff. Granted, it wasn't her 80s material, but her stuff from 1997-2003 is very high quality.

Quexzea said:

databank said:

Those prices, God! Some people must really be rich to bid hundreds of bucks on audience recordings just to have a fake pressed CD with a fake booklet on a shelf, when they could have the Flac files for free!!! I mean being willing to pay 20 bucks why not, but the sums I see when I click on your link!

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????????

THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED? I'm speechless. People are stupid.

FMD! That is AMAZINGLY RIDICULOUS!!!