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Reply #30 posted 06/07/16 8:20am

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LotusMama said:

Prince departed this Earth during the Full Moon

Close....the April full moon actually occurred on Friday April 22nd.

[Edited 6/7/16 8:24am]

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Reply #31 posted 06/07/16 9:02am

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MANY societies have used the sun, moon, planets & stars to mark time's passing, to commemorate special days, etc. The ancient Hebrew calendar was based on the lunar cycle, just like the calendars of the druids and the modern Wiccans. Studying their movements is also...y'know...science!

Yes, Prince incorporated some beliefs that were rather New Age, or at least Eastern in their influence. I think he looked to those things that didn't contradict his JW beliefs, and absorbed them. His fascination with chakras, for example, predated his conversion, and he stated in the last Rolling Stone interview that he viewed them as "science", and not as contradictions to his faith.

The whole "third eye" chakra is a controversial one amongst Christians. Some view the whole chakra concept as being harmonious with Biblical thought, and thus have no issue with it, while others view it as occultism. Even within New Age circles, there is debate as to the meaning and spiritiual properties of chakras. The third eye, for example, is cited as being an opening to the truths of the spiritual world by many, while some take it further as a way of astral traveling and interacting with higher powers (naturally, some view the latter as rather dangerous, and avoid such activities).

To bring this back to the whole lunar cycle (as well as the movements of the sun, stars, etc), it is unsurprising that many religions would base their Holy Days & rituals upon these movements, as it was once the most reliable way to mark the passing of time. Sure, many occultists follow this, but that doesn't mean that it is necessarily "occult" in and of itself.

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Yep, all of that.

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Reply #32 posted 06/07/16 9:06am

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MMJas said:



FUNKNROLL said:


purplepoppy said:

At risk of being ridiculed I have followed the monthly lunar calendar for 40+ years. Just another tool to contemplate or ignore. The heavens are a giant picture show for those who are watching.



Sure, but... How? What does that mean? I'm sure it's a big topic. I tried researching and it's difficult to derive any meaning. Not personally interested in the occult, just wondering what stuff like Prince's interest in the moon calendar might mean to him, people. How they find it meaningful, useful?


Druidism and wicca have nothing to do the occult. Those are beliefs that base themselves on nature, the cosmos, the universe, the energetic fields of the planet.The Moon represents the female aspect of divindity. The changing phases of the Moon affect us in many ways. Take, for instance, how it influences the tides.
I've brought up this subject a few times, cause I felt he migth have studied it more these last couple of years. Not necessarily wicca or druidism, but our direct relationship with nature, animals, with the Sun and the Moon, and so on.




I've read that people "get nuts" around full moons because we are made of what- 70% water so if the moon has the effect it does on the tides, imagine what it does to out internal water system.
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Reply #33 posted 06/07/16 9:14am

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Great question.


I've wondered the same thing.


How did he have time to research so much, create so much, perform so much, etc.?


He was human, right?!


If you sleep only four hours per night, that leaves you twenty hours to do whatever you want...
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Reply #34 posted 06/07/16 9:18am

RiotPaisley

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RiotPaisley said:


Prince seemed to study things of that nature. I'd say religious study was a hobby of his, but I feel that trivializes it. That said- I have researched the moon and there's lots about it. Matriarchal societies often followed the moon- it's why we have months. It worth looking into. No matter what you believe spiritually. Also worth noting, Things with Prince that seem like they are one thing, may have more meanings. I found the idea of Rainbow Children to be pretty new age.its Kinda why the whole Rainbow Children / JW stuff didn't bother me overall. He studied a lot. His learning room library thing on that website sent me down countless rabbit holes. At one point I completely freaked myself out with some of the stuff I had discovered that seemed to me pretty legit and had to pause. I was waiting for him to start another thing like that. It's a big reason I'm so sad he left this plane.


Sounds interesting! Can you tell me more about his learning room library? And what website do you mean?



It was, I believe his NPGmusic club site. You were basically inside Paisley Park and you could go to different rooms. One was a library that had biblical references and writings as I recall. I think he had written some stuff. It was many moons ago so I'm not sure I recall correctly.

I didn't necessarily believe the outright JW stuff- or any organized religion TBH. I like to take bits and pieces from all. They all seem pretty connected. I wish I was a paid scholar to research more of these type things. He was lucky his schedule allowed him to explore. I am so sad he left before he completed the Egyptian project. I hope his plans for stuff are around so people can try and implement them.
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Reply #35 posted 06/07/16 9:32am

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What no references to the rainbow over Paisley Park? You guys are off your game....

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Reply #36 posted 06/07/16 10:13am

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More trolls trying to stir the pot for no apparent reason. nuts razz

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Reply #37 posted 06/07/16 10:40am

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wayhome said:

What no references to the rainbow over Paisley Park? You guys are off your game....

Oh yes.

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2016/news/160502/prince-rainbow-800.jpg

admission is easy, just say U believe, then come 2 this place in your heart.
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Reply #38 posted 06/07/16 10:42am

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Hopefully it's beautiful over the rainbow. In an interview he said he felt like it was just like here.

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Reply #39 posted 06/07/16 11:07am

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RiotPaisley said:


It was, I believe his NPGmusic club site. You were basically inside Paisley Park and you could go to different rooms. One was a library that had biblical references and writings as I recall. I think he had written some stuff. It was many moons ago so I'm not sure I recall correctly. I didn't necessarily believe the outright JW stuff- or any organized religion TBH. I like to take bits and pieces from all. They all seem pretty connected. I wish I was a paid scholar to research more of these type things. He was lucky his schedule allowed him to explore. I am so sad he left before he completed the Egyptian project. I hope his plans for stuff are around so people can try and implement them.

What Egyptian project was he working on?

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Reply #40 posted 06/07/16 11:15am

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FUNKNROLL said:

purplepoppy said:

At risk of being ridiculed I have followed the monthly lunar calendar for 40+ years. Just another tool to contemplate or ignore. The heavens are a giant picture show for those who are watching.

Sure, but... How? What does that mean? I'm sure it's a big topic. I tried researching and it's difficult to derive any meaning. Not personally interested in the occult, just wondering what stuff like Prince's interest in the moon calendar might mean to him, people. How they find it meaningful, useful?

Ok - The moon moves through the signs at a rate of between 2-3 days per month. So there are 12 signs (constellations) and today Princes birthday the moon is in Cancer. Tommorrow it will move into Leo. This can be interesting because the characteristics of the sign the moon is in highlights the overall influence of the day and also interacts with your own Moon sign. Where the moon was at the moment of your birth.

So Cancer is a water sign associated with home and family and your inner self. Prince had a Pisces moon placement which is also a water sign (and is associated with problems with addiction among other things such as his great philanthropy). I say this without judgement because I am also a Pisces moon. Water needs to flow and is linked to creativity as well.

In addition to this and a whole lot more there are the phases of the moon. The moon was full very early am on April 22nd (there is only an exact moment when it is full because it is dynamic but the influence lasts a few days). The moon was in Libra (balance) on April 21st and then moved into Scorpio for the full moon. Scorpio rules sex, death, rebirth and transformation. Scorpio was Princes rising sign which is how you present yourself to the world.

There is a lot to astrology but like anything else a little knowledge can lead to jumping to conclusions. Based on mathematics, starts with a map of the heavens when you were born and progresses ever changing throughout your life. A horoscope can be drawn for every moment and many astrologers do this when giving advice. It is basically a multi-dimensional map. The 3 most important parts of a horoscope are Sun, Moon and Rising sign and then many layers from there.

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Reply #41 posted 06/07/16 11:39am

RiotPaisley

bigtimefan said:



RiotPaisley said:



It was, I believe his NPGmusic club site. You were basically inside Paisley Park and you could go to different rooms. One was a library that had biblical references and writings as I recall. I think he had written some stuff. It was many moons ago so I'm not sure I recall correctly. I didn't necessarily believe the outright JW stuff- or any organized religion TBH. I like to take bits and pieces from all. They all seem pretty connected. I wish I was a paid scholar to research more of these type things. He was lucky his schedule allowed him to explore. I am so sad he left before he completed the Egyptian project. I hope his plans for stuff are around so people can try and implement them.

What Egyptian project was he working on?



I think. An Jones said he wanted to do a kids cartoon. There's a post in this thread that mentions it but I also read it before.
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Reply #42 posted 06/07/16 1:55pm

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FUNKNROLL said:

Per research
The moons in black are Samhain, the dead of winter.
The moons in white are Beltane, the peak of spring.
His shirt appears to arrange that calendar in a 3D plane w/the peak spring moon prominently at front. Per the calendar that peak moon happened May 1st.

Diggimg deeper into tangents and myth, Thoth was the Egyptian god if the moon. The ancient Egyptians regarded Thoth as One, self-begotten, and self-produced. Thoth gradually became seen as a god of wisdom, magic, and the measurement and regulation of events and of time.

🤔 Hmmmm.

It's the lunar month, new, full, dark. Numerous Gods/Goddesses are associated with the moon.


Wasn't 4_21 a new moon?
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Reply #43 posted 06/07/16 2:00pm

Tresha68

NinaB said:

FUNKNROLL said:

Per research
The moons in black are Samhain, the dead of winter.
The moons in white are Beltane, the peak of spring.
His shirt appears to arrange that calendar in a 3D plane w/the peak spring moon prominently at front. Per the calendar that peak moon happened May 1st.

Diggimg deeper into tangents and myth, Thoth was the Egyptian god if the moon. The ancient Egyptians regarded Thoth as One, self-begotten, and self-produced. Thoth gradually became seen as a god of wisdom, magic, and the measurement and regulation of events and of time.

🤔 Hmmmm.

It's the lunar month, new, full, dark. Numerous Gods/Goddesses are associated with the moon.


Wasn't 4_21 a new moon?
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Reply #44 posted 06/07/16 2:03pm

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Tresha68 said:

NinaB said:


It's the lunar month, new, full, dark. Numerous Gods/Goddesses are associated with the moon.


Wasn't 4_21 a new moon?

I believe it was almost full, the Mother moon.
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Reply #45 posted 06/07/16 2:07pm

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Aerogram said:

I did a lot of research on this, and when the moon is in the seventh house and Jupiter aligns with Mars ...


Then peace will guide the planets and love will steer the stars?

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Reply #46 posted 06/07/16 2:52pm

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purplepoppy said:



FUNKNROLL said:


purplepoppy said:

At risk of being ridiculed I have followed the monthly lunar calendar for 40+ years. Just another tool to contemplate or ignore. The heavens are a giant picture show for those who are watching.



Sure, but... How? What does that mean? I'm sure it's a big topic. I tried researching and it's difficult to derive any meaning. Not personally interested in the occult, just wondering what stuff like Prince's interest in the moon calendar might mean to him, people. How they find it meaningful, useful?


Ok - The moon moves through the signs at a rate of between 2-3 days per month. So there are 12 signs (constellations) and today Princes birthday the moon is in Cancer. Tommorrow it will move into Leo. This can be interesting because the characteristics of the sign the moon is in highlights the overall influence of the day and also interacts with your own Moon sign. Where the moon was at the moment of your birth.





So Cancer is a water sign associated with home and family and your inner self. Prince had a Pisces moon placement which is also a water sign (and is associated with problems with addiction among other things such as his great philanthropy). I say this without judgement because I am also a Pisces moon. Water needs to flow and is linked to creativity as well.





In addition to this and a whole lot more there are the phases of the moon. The moon was full very early am on April 22nd (there is only an exact moment when it is full because it is dynamic but the influence lasts a few days). The moon was in Libra (balance) on April 21st and then moved into Scorpio for the full moon. Scorpio rules sex, death, rebirth and transformation. Scorpio was Princes rising sign which is how you present yourself to the world.





There is a lot to astrology but like anything else a little knowledge can lead to jumping to conclusions. Based on mathematics, starts with a map of the heavens when you were born and progresses ever changing throughout your life. A horoscope can be drawn for every moment and many astrologers do this when giving advice. It is basically a multi-dimensional map. The 3 most important parts of a horoscope are Sun, Moon and Rising sign and then many layers from there.









THAT is really fucking interesting. How did you figure out scorpio was his rising sign?
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Reply #47 posted 06/07/16 3:15pm

Yggor

Everything's out there.

Also IIRC there was once a topic here called "moon in pisces" or something like that, where people analysed Prince's whole natal chart.

Anyway, for anyone willing to dig a bit deeper:

http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Prince_%28musician%29

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Reply #48 posted 06/07/16 3:18pm

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I don't knowing it was an extremist type of belief he had...he might've grown in his religious views to looking at mysticism.
Mystics are very wise people and know a lot about what life is about.
On the other hand, I don't know how much I believe in astrology...the peace and healing is, I believe, in growing closer to God in a different way )my belief). Planets etc might have something to do with it.
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Reply #49 posted 06/07/16 3:27pm

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I am not sure if he did, but some Christians currently believe in the Blood Moon Prophecy.

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Reply #50 posted 06/07/16 4:26pm

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PurpleMusic07 said:

purplepoppy said:

Ok - The moon moves through the signs at a rate of between 2-3 days per month. So there are 12 signs (constellations) and today Princes birthday the moon is in Cancer. Tommorrow it will move into Leo. This can be interesting because the characteristics of the sign the moon is in highlights the overall influence of the day and also interacts with your own Moon sign. Where the moon was at the moment of your birth.

So Cancer is a water sign associated with home and family and your inner self. Prince had a Pisces moon placement which is also a water sign (and is associated with problems with addiction among other things such as his great philanthropy). I say this without judgement because I am also a Pisces moon. Water needs to flow and is linked to creativity as well.

In addition to this and a whole lot more there are the phases of the moon. The moon was full very early am on April 22nd (there is only an exact moment when it is full because it is dynamic but the influence lasts a few days). The moon was in Libra (balance) on April 21st and then moved into Scorpio for the full moon. Scorpio rules sex, death, rebirth and transformation. Scorpio was Princes rising sign which is how you present yourself to the world.

There is a lot to astrology but like anything else a little knowledge can lead to jumping to conclusions. Based on mathematics, starts with a map of the heavens when you were born and progresses ever changing throughout your life. A horoscope can be drawn for every moment and many astrologers do this when giving advice. It is basically a multi-dimensional map. The 3 most important parts of a horoscope are Sun, Moon and Rising sign and then many layers from there.

THAT is really fucking interesting. How did you figure out scorpio was his rising sign?

Lots of seriious astrology info online.


Phases of the moon. New Moon (planting of the seed in the dark). Best time to begin a project which will culminate with the full moon (total illumination) in 2 weeks and then start to wane before the cycle repeats. Modern politicians and ancient kings et al use astrologers for the purpose of timing what they want to achieve. Sometimes you feel a lull right before the New Moon as it regathers energy.

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Reply #51 posted 06/07/16 4:44pm

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what you haven't read that beltane was the blood ritual sacrifice season that he died in? you people are slipping. I do not understand what prince believed, I gotta tell you. Did anybody ever get the real story out of the guy anyway?

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Reply #52 posted 06/07/16 4:55pm

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Mumio said:

LotusMama said:

Prince departed this Earth during the Full Moon

Close....the April full moon actually occurred on Friday April 22nd.

[Edited 6/7/16 8:24am]

Yeah and wasn't it the only PINK moon of the year as in "Under the Cherry Moon" (Robin Williams also died on a blood moon as did Jim Careys ex, all raving satanists)

Prince's headed paper in that film showed the symbol for the demon baal and a 2/3 replica of the archway to the temple of baal was errected in Trafalgar Square on the 19th of April this year, the first day of the 13 day pagan ritual festival of sacrifice, perfectly framing Nelson's Column (What's Prince's surname?)

His character died in that film and there was a song about his character dying which mentions APRIL and was recorded on 21/4/85

I would die 4(april) U(21) was a song about a messiah and historians say Jesus died on 4/21

The twin towers stood for 33 years, Jesus' age when he died, and Rockerfeller appeared on the cover of Newsweek on that same date again, 4/21/67, with his watch hands pointing to 9 and 11. Coincidently Rockerfeller's company AT&T chose the 911 number for the emergency services in 1968 AND the towers were perfectly framed by the Washington Arch.

The twin towers were replaced by the one world tower which is 1776 feet tall and coincidently the Illuminati were said to have been formed in 1776

Then there was the famous Osama Bin Laden's gettin' ready to bomb riff in 1998

His place of death (Paisley Park) was officially opened on 9/11/87 and Revelations 9:11 reveals the name of the devil as Appolyon. What was the name of Prince's love interest in Purple Rain?

Apollo was said to have been blinded in one eye hense we have one eye symbolism on practically every Prince album cover and he frequently wore an eye patch, Purple Rain tour, The Future single etc.

And don't forget the 666 hand signs in the 1999 and Most Beautiful Girl videos

The 1999 album cover upside down reads 666 Evil

Eye hate U uses the symbol of the eye of horus or eye of lucifer

Prince changed his name to a symbol which was an amalgamation of the eye of horus and another ancient symbol representing Appolyon

He told Oprah he had someody else inside him since he was 5, remember the Family song "Possessed", Is that why he didn't like getting his photo taken?

Was Boy Gregory a blood sacrifice?

Prince was found dead in an elevator "All excited, don't know why, maybe it's cos we're all gonna die. When we do, what's it all for? Better live now before the grim reaper comes knocking on your door. Tell me are we gonna let the elevator bring us down...

Prince goes up in an elevator in Cherry Moon to the sound of him screaming

The first ever elevator was installed in New York on Broadway next to SPRING street which is next to PRINCE street

He dies at 57 on the Queen's 90th birthday. 90-57=33 (Jesus' age when he died)

Vanity also died at 57

The Queen's memorabilia was all coloured Purple for the day in question

Everything lights up Purple but the white house forget to take down the easter rabbits (code for hoax as also seen in Bowie's Lazurus video)

The Olympic torch was lit the same day with the high priestess saying a prayer to APOLLO then they released a DOVE. What was Prince's first no. 1 single called?

Art Official Age is about how we live in the matrix, nothing is real

Collonized Mind is about how there is only the illusion of choice

Balltimore is about fake shootings used to create racial division

Reflection is about mind transference "Our Bodies wear out but we can get another"

Planet Earth is outright mockery

White Caps mentions how Prince "the black butterfly" got his wings singed under the arch (of Baal)

All just coincidence?

Remember condemnation without investigation is the highest form of ignorance.

Can anyone name the self declared fraudster who made that enlightened statement?

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Reply #53 posted 06/07/16 5:00pm

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Just lost a giant post re Prince's basic horoscope analysis (my opinion) so I'm gonna rewrite it but post in smaller pieces.

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Sun Sign - Gemini - The Twins - Air - Father - Male. Body part, arms and hands. No accident instruments are played with the hands and in beaucoup photos of Prince the hands are prominent (even as a baby). Understanding of the dual nature of humanity (male & female principles). Highly intelligent (cuts like a knife), versatile, love of learning, humorous.

Moon Sign - Pisces - Fish Swimming in Opposite Directions - Water - Mother - Female. Body part, feet (Dancing + those heels) and again duality. Psychic, emotional, empathetic, philanthropic, altruistic, mixed up. The cat lady on your street is probably a Pisces Moon. Prone to addiction due to watery boundries. Sees the possible in everything.

Rising Sign - Scorpio - Phoenix Rising from the Ashes - Water - Female. Body part, sexual organs. Your rising sign is how you present yourself to the world. See this in Prince's soulful eyes and changeable appearance. Sex, death, rebirth, transformation. Take no prisoners attitude. Fiercely individual. Scorpions (the insect) will sting themselves and die when cornered without retreat. Vital, canny and one of those people you can never count out, ever.



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Reply #54 posted 06/07/16 5:40pm

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Armchair astrological analysis of Prince's last cycle. Things were building since the New Moon. Narcan freakout was in the second phase and the culmination OD - out of balance (Libra) - resulted in death. Accidental IMO. Illuminated to the world in the full Scorpio moon of April 22, 2016.

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Reply #55 posted 06/07/16 6:31pm

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Astrology used to be one of my pasttimes. I got this based off his personal chart and since we are talking about it here anyway...

Ascendant in Scorpio, Mars in the Fifth House

Your life will be marked by your shrewd, secretive, obstinate, clever, and reserved disposition. You remain an enigma: with these traits, your life events could be either very tragic or very fortunate. To which category of Scorpio do you belong? There are two types, the extremely emotional, attracted by those pathological aspects of biological relationship, or the highly mystical, concerned with spirituality.

You are a person of extremes, very sensitive and desirous of attachment. There is some attraction to the occult or to psychic phenomena.

You are very intense in your feelings and remain passionately attached to the person you love. Similarly, when you dislike someone you are very fixed in that feeling.

At some point in your life, after the occurrence of a major dramatic event that will affect you deeply, the goal and entire expression of your ego may alter entirely. The intensity and profundity of your passion, however, will always be constant.

Sun in the Eighth House

The Sun was found in your eighth house at the time of birth. This inclines your individuality to be oriented, in one way or another, to the deeper sides of life.

Your inner self seems attracted to unusual matters related to the termination of life-death and its mysteries.

Traditional astrology indicates that near your middle age a crisis will rear its head in your life.

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Reply #56 posted 06/07/16 7:10pm

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He was preoccupied with new silliness on a daily basis.

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Reply #57 posted 06/07/16 7:32pm

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omnithanos said:

Remember condemnation without investigation is the highest form of ignorance.

Can anyone name the self declared fraudster who made that enlightened statement?

Wow. You've put a lot of thought and work into this. The quote is by Einstein right?

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Reply #58 posted 06/07/16 7:35pm

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did mention full moon in the song June...

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Reply #59 posted 06/07/16 8:00pm

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jkrumes said:

Astrology used to be one of my pasttimes. I got this based off his personal chart and since we are talking about it here anyway...

Ascendant in Scorpio, Mars in the Fifth House

Your life will be marked by your shrewd, secretive, obstinate, clever, and reserved disposition. You remain an enigma: with these traits, your life events could be either very tragic or very fortunate. To which category of Scorpio do you belong? There are two types, the extremely emotional, attracted by those pathological aspects of biological relationship, or the highly mystical, concerned with spirituality.

You are a person of extremes, very sensitive and desirous of attachment. There is some attraction to the occult or to psychic phenomena.

You are very intense in your feelings and remain passionately attached to the person you love. Similarly, when you dislike someone you are very fixed in that feeling.

At some point in your life, after the occurrence of a major dramatic event that will affect you deeply, the goal and entire expression of your ego may alter entirely. The intensity and profundity of your passion, however, will always be constant.

Sun in the Eighth House

The Sun was found in your eighth house at the time of birth. This inclines your individuality to be oriented, in one way or another, to the deeper sides of life.

Your inner self seems attracted to unusual matters related to the termination of life-death and its mysteries.

Traditional astrology indicates that near your middle age a crisis will rear its head in your life.

Very interesting; this looks pretty acurate for Prince. What do charge jkrumes to do someones chart?

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