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New topic PrintableLooks like the real curators of his music were the bootlegging fans... "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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SquirrelMeat said: I was never in any doubt it was a simple overdose, so to some degree, there is no new news. It still doesn't shed any light on an underline problem and to be honest, I'm not one of those fans scambling or demanding answers. It won't bring him back. True. Let's hope his death will start to change how these very addict drugs are prescribed by shining a light on the growing problem of pain killer dependency and abuse. No More Haters on the Internet. | |
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RiotPaisley said: Remember folks, you can OD on just one pill. It's super easy to do. This doesn't mean he was shoving handfuls of pills down his throat but sustained use of narcotics will eventually catch up with you. And those patches make it even easier to do... Forget to take one off and add another... Tragic. It's 2016, he should have been outfitted with a bionic hip, using surgery to do it with minimal invasiveness, and quick recovery time. However, THEY have decided and we are complacent in the idea that the money is in the TREATMENT and not the cure. Big Pharma is de'elevator... The money gets invested in the drugs for "treatment" and not the cure. This needs to change. Write your politicians and tell them to say no to the big Pharma lobbyists- and yes to creating and enforcing regulations the encourage real solutions to problems like chronic pain and other diseases. [Edited 6/2/16 11:59am] Big Pharma is in the business to make clients not cures. No More Haters on the Internet. | |
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http://www.drugs.com/news/reports-prince-died-painkillers-61479.html
"...Both Dunn and Gupta said many of those concerns are now outlined in a new set of CDC guidelines, issued in March, that for the first time direct physicians on how to best prescribe, manage and monitor opioid treatment.
"The guidelines are very clear, and a foundation for how to handle opioid treatment going forward, which is great, because this is an all-hands-on-deck crisis," said Gupta.
"But what's needed more than anything is a real conversation between doctors, patients and family members about what the pain control goals are and what the risks are. Because there are risks," she added. "And also how to identify signs of an overdose and how to intervene, and the importance of having (the opioid blocker) naloxone (Narcan) on hand, and how to use it."
Because, Gupta said, "the fact is, unintentional overdoses happen all the time. It could very well have been unintentional for Prince. We don't know. But he was such a secretive person. And perhaps he underestimated the importance of having people around him who he could talk to and who were educated about safe opioid use. Those conversations are critical. Unfortunately, they're not always happening."
And the guidelines from CDC. As others have mentioned, in the past two years prescribing clinicians are being updated on appropriate use of these medicines. These new guidelines were released on March 18, 2016. http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/v...501e1.htm/
Besides the risks of the medicine alone, are all the risks of drug interactions that many of us just don't know. Even foods with some drugs can destroy your kidneys and liver and kill you.
If you are unsure, talk to your phamacists. They are the people the clinicians use for information. "Hold on to your souls y'all. We got a long way to go. Thank you! We love y'all!" | |
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should have gone to a hospital as soon as it landed in Minnieapolis. But pride told him he had it all under control went home and had a party instead. Put on the make-up and put on the act until it's too late. We can't be hard on him, most people with addictions are afraid people will think they're weak. No More Haters on the Internet. | |
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I agree. I'm more of a lifelong casual fan that kept up with the music on and off and my best memories are playing the albums and tracks I love best on repeat or catching Prince specials/concerts that happened to be on over the years, plus he's classy, humourous and I'm so thankful I saw him, but I didn't really keep up with day-to-day news with him, but this really hurts. I definitely don't see him as an addict either, but feel this is too close to home cause of the fentanyl and knowing someone who takes it too but was struggling with pain regardless, it makes too much sense why one would want more to stop the pain. [Edited 6/4/16 8:20am] | |
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TonyVanDam: I totally feel your pain, but we're talking about an artist who chose not to have an easily accessible Last Will and Testament. How can any of us fight a battle without armor??? Welcome home class. We've come a long way. - RIP Prince | |
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littlemissG said:
should have gone to a hospital as soon as it landed in Minnieapolis. But pride told him he had it all under control went home and had a party instead. Put on the make-up and put on the act until it's too late. We can't be hard on him, most people with addictions are afraid people will think they're weak. It wasn't pride, there was no private room, and he did not want gossip from whomever was in the room to go around the internet. The hospital should have found a way to give him privacy and treat him. So sad, that his death could have been prevented. Unless the pain was so great, he had no choice but to take these strong meds. His doctor going in hiding makes me wonder if he prescribed fentyl. No trace of him. fan for life | |
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He could have gone to another hospital the following day, or even better upon arrival in Minneapolis that same night. | |
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Don't believe everything you read. | |
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littlemissG said: SquirrelMeat said: I was never in any doubt it was a simple overdose, so to some degree, there is no new news. It still doesn't shed any light on an underline problem and to be honest, I'm not one of those fans scambling or demanding answers. It won't bring him back. True. Let's hope his death will start to change how these very addict drugs are prescribed by shining a light on the growing problem of pain killer dependency and abuse. Yes it may help a handful of people make some changes in their life. But I'm afraid in this case with no supporting information that says differently this is all going to be shined over and chucked up to another over indulgent rockstar who overdosed like so many others before him. The possible whys won't amount to anything worth anything. In the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter if they were legal or illegal, necessary or not, there's no concrete supporting info here and that's depressing, one has to make up their own based on the minimal knowledge they have. | |
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Yes Morningsong. Still trying to figure out if "self administered" means you take a pill or apply a patch that has been prescribed for you or what? Guess the outcome is the same but when something overwhelming like this happens you focus on the crumbs. Brand new boogie without the hero. | |
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This minutia of info does nothing to start any kind of healing. I can't get out of my head his dying alone, just lying there for hours with no one holding him. It is so wrong. admission is easy, just say U believe, then come 2 this place in your heart. | |
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purplepoppy said: Yes Morningsong. Still trying to figure out if "self administered" means you take a pill or apply a patch that has been prescribed for you or what? Guess the outcome is the same but when something overwhelming like this happens you focus on the crumbs. That is what self administered means. A patch or pill that a patient takes himself, rather than an injection or other form of administration that is performed and then monitored by a doctor. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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Exactly. If Prince cared about any of that he would have seen that it was protected, he didn't. Prince was a very smart man, and I'm sure he knew the ins and outs of the music world. He was alive when Michael died, and if he thought for a second that Michael was murdered for his publishings, then I'm sure he would have thought about himself and his. | |
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littlemissG said:
should have gone to a hospital as soon as it landed in Minnieapolis. But pride told him he had it all under control went home and had a party instead. Put on the make-up and put on the act until it's too late. We can't be hard on him, most people with addictions are afraid people will think they're weak. I completely agree with this. ^^^. Yes, pride and image. What a burden to bear. But there's also denial and refusal to listen to others. Those of us who love someone who's afflicted with addiction have the frustration of trying to reason with someone who won't listen to solid advice. | |
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purplethunder3121 said: Looks like the real curators of his music were the bootlegging fans... Yeah, isn't that a paradox..... RIP Prince. We will NEVER forget you. Thank you so much.
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I do have trouble seeing this autopsy report. Okay, this the digital age but something like this on the internet? No. What about privacy? I know this was posted somewhere else initially, but my God: would we want to have our autopsy report or death certificate spread around for everyone to see? I don't think so. I don't know Prince personally, I've never talked to the man but one thing is for certain: if he could see this, he would've been pissed as hell. 'Liberate My Mind' | |
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Yes, 'pissed' BUT grateful it was not as telling as Michael Jackson's and Whitney Houston's. Somebody up there cares about The Purple One!! Welcome home class. We've come a long way. - RIP Prince | |
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Well in that case I hope they end up releasing that deluxe version of Purple Rain! [Edited 6/4/16 17:31pm] | |
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And on my wish list The Time, Vanity 6 and Sheila E unleased albums [Edited 6/4/16 17:57pm] Keep Calm & Listen To Prince | |
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I want the studio versions of Purple Rain and Baby I'm A Star. and the high quality version of the original Extraloveable from '83 "I was here in the beginning and I'll be here forever more" | |
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musicfan77 said: littlemissG said:
should have gone to a hospital as soon as it landed in Minnieapolis. But pride told him he had it all under control went home and had a party instead. Put on the make-up and put on the act until it's too late. We can't be hard on him, most people with addictions are afraid people will think they're weak. It wasn't pride, there was no private room, and he did not want gossip from whomever was in the room to go around the internet. The hospital should have found a way to give him privacy and treat him. So sad, that his death could have been prevented. Unless the pain was so great, he had no choice but to take these strong meds. His doctor going in hiding makes me wonder if he prescribed fentyl. No trace of him. He has to surface sometime - somewhere. RIP Prince. We will NEVER forget you. Thank you so much.
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sorry if posted already but this is what Dez Dickerson wrote on his FBpage today.
Dez Dickerson with Matt Fink and 8 others.I was contacted by a major news organization Thursday and asked for a response regarding the coroner's report on Prince-my response was "I have nothing to say, other than the fact that the Prince I knew would never be mentioned in the same sentence with the word 'drugs'". That quote was mischaracterized in headlines by that organization and a number of other news services, who picked up my quote, with the use of the words "Shocked" and "Stunned"-words I DID NOT, and would not, use. The Prince that I, and others, knew, would not be associated with drugs-period. Now, my brothers and sisters, SHARE THAT quote please...
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no. it was accidental death. so addicted he gave himself way to much. he mush of been in amazing ammounts of pain. Prince Fan~Natic 32 Years & Counting | |
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mailaccount63 said: musicfan77 said: It wasn't pride, there was no private room, and he did not want gossip from whomever was in the room to go around the internet. The hospital should have found a way to give him privacy and treat him. So sad, that his death could have been prevented. Unless the pain was so great, he had no choice but to take these strong meds. His doctor going in hiding makes me wonder if he prescribed fentyl. No trace of him. He has to surface sometime - somewhere. Purple Army: Keep your eyes and ears open! He has to surface sometime - somewhere! We want answers! [Edited 6/5/16 2:51am] RIP Prince. We will NEVER forget you. Thank you so much.
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^^This. 1). The ME's office was obviously holding the report and only released because info was getting leaked. Had it not gotten leaked, how long would they have held it?? 2). What respectable entity releases autopsy reports via TWITTER?? I know we live in a social media driven society but really? They could have just uploaded to their database and not said a word, just let people request it..but instead, Prince's cause of death became a Twitter post. Unfathomable. | |
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What in the... I didn't know that!
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https://twitter.com/midwestmedexam
I mean, I KNOW his passing is news and all but really, who would want their autopsy plastered on Twitter? It's dehumanizing IMO | |
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