KingSausage said:

Identity said:

People are still in shock, others are struggling with extreme sadness and some with anger. I have to remind myself each day that he actually died. After losing Bowie, I never at any point thought I'd see headlines in 2016 announcing " Prince Found Dead".

I'm in the same boat with the Bowie thing. 2016 has been very cruel. I guess I'm just shocked by the people arguing about some of these nitpicky points and some of the meanness. Lashing out at Prince and calling him an addict? Even by Org standards, this shit is fucked up.

I'm right there with you. Bowie's death was a huge shock to me and Prince's death just seemed kind of unreal for a few days there. Really took it hard. It's still very hard to grasp, whether he was in pain, had a terminal ilness, had an addiction, whatever. I don't care at this point, I just hope he passed on peacefully. I just miss the man and knowing there will be no more music, no more shows is terrible...

This site has always been fucked up honestly. But I think not respecting Prince after his death is just crossing the line. I have recently been seeing Prince get hated on other sites that I go to including Youtube and a freaking game app but the fact that this is Prince.org, a "fan community", is just complete bullshit. I get that a lot of "fans" don't want Prince to be viewed as a druggie or whatever the fuck but how does this change the music? How does this affect all the good memories you've had regarding Prince?

I don't even know what to say in regards to the actual topic. I'm just... speechless. And teary-eyed.

KingSausage said:

Identity said:

People are still in shock, others are struggling with extreme sadness and some with anger. I have to remind myself each day that he actually died. After losing Bowie, I never at any point thought I'd see headlines in 2016 announcing " Prince Found Dead".

I'm in the same boat with the Bowie thing. 2016 has been very cruel. I guess I'm just shocked by the people arguing about some of these nitpicky points and some of the meanness. Lashing out at Prince and calling him an addict? Even by Org standards, this shit is fucked up.

Those that weren't fans are going to call him an addict among other things, worse than that, because of the report of him dying of an accidental drug overdose, don't you think? Hell, they already are! So imagine how shocked some are that are fans, and didn't think that Prince would even go near a drug, to know that he died by them? People are only trying to express what they feel, and some of it may come across as nitpicky or mean, even cruel, but they are just trying to find closure and understand.....let them.

KingSausage said:

This site is so fucked up sometimes.

It really is.

That's why after I finally registered as a member almost 12 years ago I hardly ever posted in the P:M&M forum. My posts in this section pretty much only tended to be made out of frustration over what I was seeing the fanatics write.

But I really need to remind myself that no matter what you say, those that are not fully with it will never see things in any other way than their way.

The only thing that I can say, is that if you don't like some of the comments, then don't read them. We live in a land where free speech is expressed, and like it or not, some will undoubtedly say something you like or don't like. So, like I suggest, if it bugs you that much, don't read it, but we can't stop others from voicing their opinions.

DoItAllNight4U said:

This site has always been fucked up honestly. But I think not respecting Prince after his death is just crossing the line. I have recently been seeing Prince get hated on other sites that I go to including Youtube and a freaking game app but the fact that this is Prince.org, a "fan community", is just complete bullshit. I get that a lot of "fans" don't want Prince to be viewed as a druggie or whatever the fuck but how does this change the music? How does this affect all the good memories you've had regarding Prince?

I don't even know what to say in regards to the actual topic. I'm just... speechless. And teary-eyed.

I agree, unless you walk in someone else's shoes you have no idea what their life was....we should be grateful of howmuch he gave so many so generously....he gave a lot of love and joy to the world despite his own pain and he also did a tremendous amount of aninymous charity work...he by all accounts was a kind and good hearted person who shared his gift with all of us....we are no one to judge....may his spirit finally be at rest and without pain~

people can be so self centered...he gave us so much yet we think we have a right to comment on his actions and issues after his death? He gave us more than enough, leave his personal life personal and without judgment...worry about your own life and how you live it...he left the world a better place bc of what he contributed

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Oh yes, the "land of free speech" and "everyone has an opinion" card...right on time.

This place is predictable, I'll give you that.

JustErin said:

lwr001 said:

LavenderSky said:

Fentanyl overdose? That is NOT a common narcotic readily available to the public. If it was indeed his physician who prescribed Fentanyl injection for Prince, he or she better have a VERY good lawyer. Moreover, if it is found the physician wasn't directly responsible for Prince obtaining the Fentanyl, whoever the gulity party is, I hope this person is located and held accountable STAT! That said, my heart is so heavy from the autopsy news. My poor Prince. My heart is broke once again

[Edited 6/3/16 6:57am]

Pleasee,, oncve again teh person responsible for Prince's death is dead case closed..no one is getting charged here

Policing posts now? Pleazzzeee lol.

KingSausage said:

Identity said:

People are still in shock, others are struggling with extreme sadness and some with anger. I have to remind myself each day that he actually died. After losing Bowie, I never at any point thought I'd see headlines in 2016 announcing " Prince Found Dead".

I'm in the same boat with the Bowie thing. 2016 has been very cruel. I guess I'm just shocked by the people arguing about some of these nitpicky points and some of the meanness. Lashing out at Prince and calling him an addict? Even by Org standards, this shit is fucked up.

Yep, well said. Everyone is entiled to an opinion, but DAMN! The negative angry tone in this thread is down right embarrassing and pathetic. Sign of the times. I'm out of this thread. Peace.

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[Edited 6/3/16 11:10am]

A couple of days ago the Org had gotten back to discussing Prince's life and music in depth... Now it is focused on unending debate and speculation on his death. In a way, I wish the ME's report had never been released. It doesn't change anything. And just makes the loss harder to deal with.

Was the autopsy thread shut down?

roxy831 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

KingSausage said:

purplethunder3121 said:

A couple of days ago the Org had gotten back to discussing Prince's life and music in depth... Now it is focused on unending debate and speculation on his death. In a way, I wish the ME's report had never been released. It doesn't change anything. And just makes the loss harder to deal with.

Come discuss his music on a recent thread I started. People have been giving some great input so far and it's stunningly positive! http://prince.org/msg/7/426965

Thanks, I need some positivity.

SexFiendNikki said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I Second That Emoji

Andrew Kornfeld wrote an article that's on CNN sort of hinting at what may have caused Prince to die. He does not come out and say that he is talking about Prince, but he mentions that when someone tries to kick their addiction cold turkey and then relapses, if they take the same dosage that they took before attempting to quit, that it can be fatal.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/0...index.html

Selena4641 said:

SexFiendNikki said:

I wonder if anyone can say with any degree of certainty if Prince was overusing Opiods because he was in extreme pain or did he get addicted to the way the drugs made him feel? He just didn’t seem like the kind of person who would use drugs as an escape. But what do I know…

You've brought up an excellent question. As a recovering addict myself, I had back issues and was prescribed Percocet. The pills took away my pain and made me feel great, kind of high, not high like I couldn't function, bit high like having a ton of energy. I think with Prince, he built up his tolerance level and Percocet didn't give him energy anymore, so that's why he started using Fentanyl. The reason I think this is because as of now, it seems like his doctors weren't willing to give him anything stronger that Percocet. The doctors must have thought his pain wasn't bad enough to warrant stronger narcotics, like Fentanyl. I'm guessing he bought the Fentanyl from a dealer, because the report mentions that the investigation is ongoing. If he was getting fentanyl from a doctor, I don't see why the investigation would be ongoing. They would easily be able to find what doctor and drugstore he got the Fentanyl from. As a retired Mortician, (funeral director and embalmer) when I read the report and saw "self administered Fentanyl" and that the investigation is ongoing, that led me to believe he got the Fentanyl from a dealer. It's the "self administered" that sticks out like a sore thumb to me. Every death certificate or report I've seen from an OD states overdose of (insert drug here), not self administered. I could be wrong, maybe they state self administered in Minnesota, but I've never seen it written that way in my state.

People must have different reactions to medications. I was prescribed Percocet after major surgery several years ago and it didn't make me feel great at all--the opposite, as a matter of fact. The experience was so negative that I stopped taking the pills after a few days and flushed them down the toilet.

purplethunder3121 said:

KingSausage said:

purplethunder3121 said:

People must have different reactions to medications. I was prescribed Percocet after major surgery several years ago and it didn't make me feel great at all--the opposite, as a matter of fact. The experience was so negative that I stopped taking the pills after a few days and flushed them down the toilet.

Totally. My wife and I have both been prescribed Percocet after surgeries. It made her so sick she couldn't take more than one pill. She threw the rest out. I, however, LOVED it. The pills not only managed my pain but they made me feel glorious. The only better feeling I've ever experienced is when I've had morphine a few times in the hospital. If I close my eyes and concentrate, it's like my body can still feel what that was like. Both the Percocet and the morphine. I'm glad my doctors only prescribed me a very small number of pills after my surgeries, because I know damn well I could get hooked. The feeling of euphoria is intense.

I had morphine only once after surgery on an IV and felt great. But they would only give it too me for one day and I was not a happy camper when they switched me over to Ibuprofen.

KingSausage said:

Identity said:

People are still in shock, others are struggling with extreme sadness and some with anger. I have to remind myself each day that he actually died. After losing Bowie, I never at any point thought I'd see headlines in 2016 announcing " Prince Found Dead".

I'm in the same boat with the Bowie thing. 2016 has been very cruel. I guess I'm just shocked by the people arguing about some of these nitpicky points and some of the meanness. Lashing out at Prince and calling him an addict? Even by Org standards, this shit is fucked up.

both of these posts x1,000 . the man did his best, as i hope we all do. rest in peace sweet man.

Selena4641 said:

roxy831 said:

Cindyt: I was thinking the same thing. Was there anything legally those around him could have done! Why didn't they immediately take him to a Minneapolis hospital to get a private room! This makes absolutely no sense! As far as I'm concerned, if you see a loved one overdose in front of your eyes, they are going and STAYING in a hospital!

You can't force someone to go to a Hospital. Most hospitals don't have a rehab floor to begin with. Doctors that prescribe Suboxone have to be licensed to prescribe it. That's why most doctors that prescribe it are private practice, or have their own clinic. And this whole private room thing is bullshit. Yes, I understand he was Prince, but you can't expect a hospital to just shuffle patients around because Prince is there. Just because he was Prince doesn't mean his life was more valuable than anyone else's. How would you feel if your loved one was denied help or a room because of Prince wanting a private room? I'd be pissed. I'm sorry but Prince's vanity stopped him from getting help when his plane made the emergency landing and he left the hospital because he couldn't get a private room. Sadly, Pride cometh before a fall. [Edited 6/3/16 11:25am]

That!^^ BUT money does talk. He could have found a room between Iowa, Illinois and Minnesota. Come on... But yes, your point is valid.

Guitarhero said:

Some harsh comments still about Prince here can't some of you just let the guy rest in peace. He made mistakes like we all do

[Edited 6/3/16 4:50am]

Obviously there's some perfect people on this site.

roxy831 said:

Selena4641 said:

roxy831 said: You can't force someone to go to a Hospital. Most hospitals don't have a rehab floor to begin with. Doctors that prescribe Suboxone have to be licensed to prescribe it. That's why most doctors that prescribe it are private practice, or have their own clinic. And this whole private room thing is bullshit. Yes, I understand he was Prince, but you can't expect a hospital to just shuffle patients around because Prince is there. Just because he was Prince doesn't mean his life was more valuable than anyone else's. How would you feel if your loved one was denied help or a room because of Prince wanting a private room? I'd be pissed. I'm sorry but Prince's vanity stopped him from getting help when his plane made the emergency landing and he left the hospital because he couldn't get a private room. Sadly, Pride cometh before a fall. [Edited 6/3/16 11:25am]

That!^^ BUT money does talk. He could have found a room between Iowa, Illinois and Minnesota. Come on... But yes, your point is valid.

could have done a lot of things but I think it's true, he feared his image taking a hit. we woulda understood, well, I would have. then we have those meanies on here that would have raked him over the coals but they do that with everything he did.

Rebeljuice said:

purplethunder3121 said:

KingSausage said:

purplethunder3121 said: Totally. My wife and I have both been prescribed Percocet after surgeries. It made her so sick she couldn't take more than one pill. She threw the rest out. I, however, LOVED it. The pills not only managed my pain but they made me feel glorious. The only better feeling I've ever experienced is when I've had morphine a few times in the hospital. If I close my eyes and concentrate, it's like my body can still feel what that was like. Both the Percocet and the morphine. I'm glad my doctors only prescribed me a very small number of pills after my surgeries, because I know damn well I could get hooked. The feeling of euphoria is intense.

I had morphine only once after surgery on an IV and felt great. But they would only give it too me for one day and I was not a happy camper when they switched me over to Ibuprofen.

i've been on morphine once and remember thinking at the time "i see how people could get hooked to this" and I've been high on fumes, just from some of the work i've done and those are really as close as I want to get to any kind of addiction, I'll just suffer, die from pain if I have to.

tmo1965 said:

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