so.... Madge is a dealer, and that makes Prince a drugs user... wtf.... (how dares she!).... Prince 4Ever. | |
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I can't/don't know Madonna's heart. But her tribute to Prince was pitiful. And sad. It made my head and heart hurt. She was not the right person for this. I'm in the news again
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Like I said, like it or not, none of us can judge her heart. I didn't even watch it, and I'm not going to watch the BET tribute
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She wasn't in an elevator and Madonna was totting that purse since early 2015 people
Known for pushing the boundaries, Madonna's latest luggage comes from East London designer Mawi Keivom, who specialises in bejeweled luxury accessories. Though the bag appears to be a Hermes Kelly
We Found THAT ‘Dealer’ Bag Madonna Just Posted to Instagram
The bag, created by U.K.-based brand Mawi, is called the Elizabeth, with a shape that takes its cues from the classic Hermès Kelly bag. The big difference being that it features the pretty awesome detailing of “dealer” and “thief” in Swarovski crystals. The bag, available in black and bordeaux, is also available in clutch form.
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Anyone with 2 eyes can judge her intent here. The fact that you are trying to jusify it says a great deal. FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent. | |
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^ Hey Oldfriends... you don't believe that yourself do you: Prince 4Ever. | |
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It is people creating something that isn't there. Like the people that are saying she's in an elevator. For real?
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Graycap23? Is she in an elevator?
Come on let's go to the Ice Cream Truck music thread.or Bodies Of Strange Creatures Were Found In The Basement Of An Old House In London. Some people see conspiracies and illuminati stuff everywhere. 2 eyes or the 3rd Eye. Maybe my 3rd Eye is blocked. Remember that thread about the physical third Eye in our brain?
Come on. If she was toting thing bag since 2015 why weren't people having a problem with it before?
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Or Both! | |
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OldFriends4Sale said:
Graycap23? Is she in an elevator?
Come on let's go to the Ice Cream Truck music thread.or Bodies Of Strange Creatures Were Found In The Basement Of An Old House In London. Some people see conspiracies and illuminati stuff everywhere. 2 eyes or the 3rd Eye. Maybe my 3rd Eye is blocked. Remember that thread about the physical third Eye in our brain?
Come on. If she was toting thing bag since 2015 why weren't people having a problem with it before?
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Lol......1+1+1 = 3 yes answers..... FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent. | |
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Nope, but conspiracy jumping at shadows I tend to role my eyes at. Everyone is saying she is in an elevator... o really? and that is because that is how elevators tend to look??
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Graycap23, brother, 1. you believe Bodies Of Strange Creatures Were Found In The Basement Of An Old House In London are real 1. you don't like Madonna 1. you did not know she has been wearing that bag and has explained what Dealer means in connection to her Rebel Heart and no fact at all that she was in an elevator
1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 5
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Nope, but conspiracy jumping at shadows I tend to role my eyes at. Everyone is saying she is an elevator... o really? and that is because that is how elevators tend to look??...
People tend to react without thinking. Sensitivities and emotions (and prejudices) get in the way... Conspiracy? Now that sounds dramatic. I think people are outraged/alleging she is letting the worst elements of her personality run amok for personal gain at the expense of common decency. Not sure how you arrived at "it's a plot to take over the world!" | |
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Agreed! Her sitting on that purple throne instead of standing next to it spoke volumes to me. It's his throne; not hers. She'll never be able to fill that seat the way he did. I was kinda done with this 'tribute' from the moment I saw that. It's like going to someone's house for dinner and just taking the chair at the head of the table without being asked to do so. I still watched it all because I felt that maybe it would get better....yeah, it didn't. Pictures of tombstones and a cemetary for a man who was cremated just seemed soo disrespectful to me. Maybe because I'm a firm believer in respecting people's final wishes and Prince wanted to be cremated so what was up with those images???? I guess she doesn't agree with cremation or didn't know that was his choice. Plus, images of him from the 80s. He had said in many interviews that he wasn't that person anymore. We are supposed to be celebrating his life not mourning his death and this tribute was the funeral he never wanted. Her outfit was amazing and I was in love with that chair but that was about the only good things about this tribute for me. I love Stevie but he just seemed like a save shot in the end. She didn't even showcase her band which was something Prince was known for doing throughout his career. They were just background. When did Madonna stop being a trend setter and start being a trend follower because that's all I took from that tribute in the end. She actually did a song with Prince in her career and she didn't use this platform to showcase it. Hell, she's the queen of controversy and she picked two of the safest songs to sing. If she had busted out with 'Pussy Control' I would have been one of those applauding and defending her. A song about female empowerment sang by Madonna on a awards show that was female dominated. Duh, no brainer! They could have done the edited version and had Prince's voice doing the backing vocals and Madonna dancing her ass off as I know she can do. She could have done Mayte's 'The Most Beautiful Boy In the World' if she wanted a ballad and it would have been exceptional and even more emotional because Mayte wasn't a strong vocalist either. In the end, if she got fullfillment from her tribute to him than awesome sauce for her. It left me uninspired and disappointed.
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They did that for BB King at some awards show after he died. Just a photo of him on the monitor with his music playing and a chair with his guitar, Lucille, being highlighted by a spotlight. Beautiful! Sometimes less is more. I just needed the chair for this tribute with a nice instrumental band and his pictures on the monitors but Billboards isn't known for being deep. Prince Rogers Nelson
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well my reply was to someone who believes in conspiracy's and Illuminati cults . Yes, outrage tends to be fueled by emotions and sensitivities, not facts or logic in these cases. Most are not thinking. Like many other here have indicated, that isn't an elevator. What do you think would be the driving force being people seeing something that isn't there? Sensitivities. . I'm in a space of limbo with a coworker/friend, who accused me of having 'control issues' and being disrespectful to her. ... because I moved a potted plant that I gave her from a dark spot into the sun. She lashed out behind my back about it, and then to my face. Emotions bubbling. I felt I was in the twilight zone. Yet she is the one whose daughter is currently seeing a psychiatrist because of her mothers control issues(which everyone knows she has) Her emotional outburst (this isn't the first time) has me in a place of decision, of whether or not I should severe this relationship. Not the first time she attacked my character over nothing. "I know(fact) that your intentions were right and good, but I feel(emotions) you are disrespectful" Now she is trying to inch her way back saying she was in a mean mood for a while. I can't even look at her. She was outraged though that I move a plant that I gave her from the dark into the sunlight. . And I don't know why you put in quotes as if I said "it's a plot to take over the world!" I'm not the one seeing a planned conspiracy to diss Prince by standing in the corner of a room holding a bag she has been carrying since early 2015.
. I did not even watch the show whether on tv or any clips. So I'm 'listening without prejudice' about this whole thing
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A tribute is about the artist who has passed on not the person how is performing the tribute...something that seems to be forgotten during a lot of tributes. There are lots of tributes that I thought were exceptional. Bonnie Raitt and Chris Stapleton's tribute to BB King at this year's Grammys. Lorde's tribute to David Bowie on this year's Brit Awards. All stunningly done because they weren't about them; they were about those artists that had been promoted to the next life. Personally, even though I think Madonna's tribute could (and should) have been a lot better, I think it's waaay better than that Bowie tribute GaGa did on the Grammy's. She turned him into a caricature and a commerical. I'm not even a David Bowie fan and I was pissed off after watching that. Narcissism at its finest. If a tribute performer is re-using imagery or performance ideas that they have done during their own shows than that tribute is already an epic fail. Just my [Edited 5/26/16 21:22pm] Prince Rogers Nelson
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Graycap23, brother, 1. you believe Bodies Of Strange Creatures Were Found In The Basement Of An Old House In London are real 1. you don't like Madonna 1. you did not know she has been wearing that bag and has explained what Dealer means in connection to her Rebel Heart and no fact at all that she was in an elevator
1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 5
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The next day my co-worker, who is also a big Prince fan, said something that made me see Stevie's addition in a totally different light. She said, 'When Stevie came out and Madonna took his hand and led him to the center of the stage, it just reeked of a crooked politician kissing a sleeping infant to get more votes and praise.' I watched it back and totally understood how she could see that. I really hope that's not why he was added last minute because it definitely seemed like he was added last minute for some underhanded reason. Prince Rogers Nelson
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I'm sure she has tons of handbags that she could have picked to use in this photo that don't have the word 'Dealer' on them. I don't think she's in an elevator because most elevators have reflective walls and who takes pictures in elevators ? If it does turn out to be in an elevator, than she's an evil soul and karma is a bitch. The handbag is tacky and disrespectful for the subject matter stated in the text under the photo and she should know better because she's not hurting Prince with that symbolism she's hurting his family and his fans. Respect is earned; not given and can easily be taken away. Prince Rogers Nelson
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Graycap23, we are bedmates in P&R come on
http://prince.org/msg/100/420171?pr
Believe what you believe and stand by it, just respond unemotionally.
what in those 1 points did I say that wasn't real? Is it a simple concept that she was most likely not in an elevator? maybe she was, I've never seen one like that...
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I guess we should conclude now that this is over. Bottom line, Madonna should not have been the one to do any national awards show tribute of Prince, especially not at this time, or at all really- whatsoever. People can come up with whatever tomfoolery they'd like about why she was "qualified" to take part in debauchery and paying "homage" to Prince. Reality is this, completely wrong choice and unnecessary. Yes, Stevie gets a pass because he was thrown into the crossfire for saving grace and saving momentum amongst his true supporters and musicians who were upset among the world. (Also, it's Stevie, a living legend who inspired Prince) Questlove, was arguably the best portion of the tribute. End.
She got the attention she and her team wanted and in-turn did in fact get people speaking of her, yet again. She has little and sometimes little to no musical ability whatsoever so this was not tasteful at all. All that matters is that she got her point across, "her dear friend Prince (in her own head clearly) is who she was paying tribute to" and if that makes her feel like she's contributed good merit and service, then fortunately for her, that's all that matters because while we can judge the slackness/disgraceful tactics of the performance, we can't judge her heart because it may not have been in the right place, but it wasn't in the wrong. She just had no business up there, that's all, and for me personally, she lost a lot of points for even trying to do that and extremely distasteful of the billboards. Tori Kelly, my age, could have rinsed Purple Rain if that's what they wanted, just with vocals and a guitar. [Edited 5/26/16 22:22pm] [Edited 5/26/16 22:23pm] | |
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Dude u can keep the Gay stuff to yourself.
Having a discusson on a topic does not have to reflect your belief in a topic. People with the capcity to think can understand this simple concept. This a discussion forum....NOT a belief forum.
The mere fact that you are making your comment on a personal level is a direct violation of the rules. It's time to reflect rather you should even remain a Mod here.
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comprehension bro:bedmates ie acquaintance familiar associate fyi the word married is used to describe two unique ideals or concepts that are brought together to build or create something new ie a business or such. Nothing sexual about these terms. It's not personal. I'm saying just be straight up. A person who tends to see conspiracy will look at that Madonna image and see things that are not there. Like the elevator. Or the strange creatures in London. I'm not saying anything personal -those are your ideals. . you want to talk about getting personal? Graycap23 said: Some people simply don't understand sybolism. Anyone with 2 eyes can judge her intent here. The fact that you are trying to jusify it says a great deal. U can't comprehend simple concepts how are in going to understand someone who has the capacity to think? Dude u can keep the Gay stuff to yourself. . I'm not violating a rule, I'm not attacking you. I've been asking you how do you know that she is in an elevator? What elevators have you been in that looked like that? And figure into the equation that she has had that Dealer purse since early 2015 in connection with her Rebel Heart thingy. | |
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Save your justification of Madonna's disrespect of Prince. You constanly break the rules and you are supposed to be a "mod". Save you nonsense for someone else.
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comprehension bro:bedmates ie acquaintance familiar associate fyi the word married is used to describe two unique ideals or concepts that are brought together to build or create something new ie a business or such. Nothing sexual about these terms. It's not personal. I'm saying just be straight up. A person who tends to see conspiracy will look at that Madonna image and see things that are not there. Like the elevator. Or the strange creatures in London. I'm not saying anything personal -those are your ideals. . you want to talk about getting personal? Graycap23 said: Some people simply don't understand sybolism. Anyone with 2 eyes can judge her intent here. The fact that you are trying to jusify it says a great deal. U can't comprehend simple concepts how are in going to understand someone who has the capacity to think? Dude u can keep the Gay stuff to yourself. . I'm not violating a rule, I'm not attacking you. I've been asking you how do you know that she is in an elevator? What elevators have you been in that looked like that? And figure into the equation that she has had that Dealer purse since early 2015 in connection with her Rebel Heart thingy. | |
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Ignore button: ENGAGE FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent. | |
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just answer the questions brochowski, in your own spare time.
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Bottom line, terrible tribute and Madonna shouldn't have felt so entitled to advocate her do it in the first place. Done. | |
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