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Printableavajane said: I trust Kirk Johnson, but I don't know what's going on. Prince, I want justice for your death if there was any foul play, but at the same time I want people to leave you alone. If Kirky J did something to Prince, his ass is going to jail. Real friends dont enable real friends if that is the case here. Real friends sure as hell dont give drugs like candy to their friends. It is blantantly obvious that there was some foul play going on here when it comes to Prince's passing or there would not be a big investigation like the one we are seeing right now. Prince never had anybody to deny him of anything or else he would cast out that person in the most childish fashion. If the people in Prince's life really gave a damn about his wellbeing and not just keeping the guy around who signs their paychecks, they would have got him into a long term rehab facility years ago against his wishes. Making that man uncomfortable and not kissing his ass and being a yes man all the fucking time might have saved Prince's life. Everyone in Prince's life failed him starting with not making stay in the hospital in moline. I dont care if somebody would have had to strap him down to a bed and make him get the medical treatment that his stubborn ass did not want. If you have to get a save shot in order to bring you back to this plane of existence, you are not medically okay. You are on the verge of death and you need to stay in the hospital unril a certified medical professional gives you a clean bill of health and discharges you to leave. Fuck not having a private room. Fuck wanting to go do concerts. You need to get some medical help whether you like it or not. If Kirky J was any kind of a friend to Prince, he would have distanced himself from him the moment that he asked for drugs. Fuck being an enabler and wanting to be in Prince's inner circle, love that man from a distance and use common sense if he asks you to do something ignorant and illegal. Prince is dead and if Kirky J had anything to do with it, his ass needs to fry for this mess! | |
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Candice2009 said:[quote]I keep looking at the Princetagram comic...what are you seeing? Kirk over his shoulder.. In blue cap? The "stay out of this"? Please elaborate. Thats what I am seeing like to me it looks like knives to his back and throat... Like the people around him are dangerous. It just seems out of all the things in that comic, why would he chose those and why would he crop them that way? I have that comic there are way better scenes unless he was trying to say something. It just seems odd choices and the cropping of them ... There are several references to him seeing and hearing things in the photos he choose. Surprise, surprise.
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RiotPaisley said: BillieBalloon said: No, but somebody died as a result. Somebody is responsible we don't know who yet but I'm sure we will find out. He could have said no at anytime. I don't buy that "he was doing his job bit" his job was to protect Prince. He was trusted because of his history. If he quit and Prince replaced him, people around him may have been more suspect of a new person around and maybe someone else would have stepped in. If Kirk was "just" a yes man, he's a coward and doesn't have much integrity. Kirk could have also gotten hooked on the idea of being the "drug runner" too ... Who knows how far that aspect could have stretched. We tend to glamorize that occupation in this country. How many as Scarface tshirts have you seen? So you got this guy Prince who thinks he is in control of everything and there Kirk, the guy who has the real control because opioids are the ruler when you get deep into it. Sorry but this hits way too close to home for me and I see it from a whole different angle and I'm just losing my mind right now. I can't believe this shit. I really can't and I hope it is all speculative and there's logical reasons for everything but I'm telling you... The Princetagram comic shots. Prince knew what was going on. If the speculation about drug dependency turns out to be true then yes ìts shocking for us but something we will have to accept sadly.... ....  I haven't even accepted he's gone yet As for kirk, who knows what problems he himself may have. Sometimes a Co-dependant relationship develops because both parties have a common goal and in this case only one of them had the financial means. Baby, you're a star.
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I have a hard time with them not uh ...here in Florida it's called "baker act" anyways baker acting prince in that hospital in moline if he took an overdose. COME ON...who gets to walk out of a hospital after taking an overdose. NOBODY. I know of people who have been baker acted in florida for saying they couldn't take it anymore cause their insurance wouldn't cover cancer treatment. THAT WAS ALL IT TOOK. That means the hospital in Moline should have FORCED prince to go to a psychiatric hospital. Or stay there if they had a place for him to go. You can't just WALK OUT after taking an overdose WHO DOES THAT? | |
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When I was at Paisley in Sept. Kirk was drumming in the practice room where 3EG recorded. He was sweating like crazy. He was definitely around. Also the egg was reported to be in use, some music videos from what I understand were shot in the egg. If someone is found to be an enabler they should pay the price regardless if they were working for a powerful man. But that remaims to be seen. What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet? | |
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Info or intox... Let's applause guys The Ignorant asserts,The learned doubts,The wise thinks.
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it's not just the kirk guy, it's the authorities, the drs., and that hospital. the reason you "baker act" or whatever it's called there is so somebody CAN't hurt themselves by going out and getting another overdose or pill or gun for that matter. It takes NOTHING to get baker acted. Just the wrong words. So why.....do I even need to ask. | |
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In Sept - Josh said during the studio tour is he said something to the effect Paisley Park would not be open to outsiders until after....then he paused. Never set well with me. So I wonder now how bad Prince's health was but can't say with certain exactly what he meant. [Edited 5/12/16 18:11pm] What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet? | |
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The witch hunt going on in here is disturbing as hell. Why is that so many of you need someone to blame? | |
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cindyt said:
it's not just the kirk guy, it's the authorities, the drs., and that hospital. the reason you "baker act" or whatever it's called there is so somebody CAN't hurt themselves by going out and getting another overdose or pill or gun for that matter. It takes NOTHING to get baker acted. Just the wrong words. So why.....do I even need to ask. Imagine this will end up being two separate incidents? You think? What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet? | |
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This whole fuckin' thing  | |
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all we have so far is rumors and innuendos. nothing concrete. i say we assume the best about mr kirk as he seems to have been prince's close friend and associate. i sincerely doubt he would have deliberately led prince to his death, right? i mean, we don't even know the autopsy results yet so.. | |
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indeed | |
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nursev said:
Yes he reappeared in photos labeled as his bodyguard. Then was listed as drummer after 3rdEyeGirl disbanded. Maybe not in that order? | |
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morningsong said: I'm Googling away and I'm not finding any of this. --- I do not see any of this and I am sure we will all know soon enough. | |
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well Im sorry for the language, but thats how I feel | |
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if it's true i'll be pissed off too. but, the thing is people can ignore interventions and helpful hints. ultimately, prince was prince. he likely did what he wanted to do, no matter what folks told him.
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honestly i kind of want to punch them all. the associates who didn't save him, the doctors who made money and didn't help, the pharma companies for making this shit then selling the cure save shot, the world for putting demands and stress on prince, and even us fans who are the ones who made TMZ powered up and prince who hated them enough to flee treatment becauase he knew they were circling like sharks.. | |
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you know what? upon reflection just.. nope. | |
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i refuse to believe any of it happened. he's alive and well in his underground bunker XxAxX said: all we have so far is rumors and innuendos. nothing concrete. i say we assume the best about mr kirk as he seems to have been prince's close friend and associate. i sincerely doubt he would have deliberately led prince to his death, right? i mean, we don't even know the autopsy results yet so.. I respect that you have faith this will all turn out to be nothing and he died from some freak accident or whatever- but the underlying thing is that this story has become all too common situation in America. Were his people trapped in the egg when MJ died? Did they see that and just think oh Prince, he's SO in control- we don't have to worry about this. I don't even know the Artist and even I said (I've said this on other threads) right when MJ passed there had been a story that Prince needed a hip replacement but was refusing on religious grounds, using meds to push thru. The FIRST thing I thought was damn Prince, I hope this is a wake up call to get the surgery. Unfortunately, I wasn't his right hand man so how could I do anything but pray for him. And I did... And damn it if my worst nightmare didn't happen. So in my mind there is one big glaring issue to blame... And then there are the enablers. Interesting that Kirk apparently has a LinkedIn profile?!? What the hell for? Why on Earth does Kirk Johnson, right hand man to Prince need a LinkedIn? One that says he's the Paisley Park Estate Manager --- RED FLAG? Is he the "dr" as Prince referred to him at PP the weekend after the plane, is he the trainer, the bodyguard, estate manager, enabler, drug runner, drummer, close "friend" and associate. All of the above? I don't want to believe none of it either. I especially don't want to believe he really had no one around Keeping an eye on him with his best interests in mind. This whole thing has me tore up. I've lost a whole lot of people to this shit and I've had to walk away from people I adore. I guess it was easier for me though because I wasn't on nobody's payroll. You walk away for love, you stay for the money. Surprise, surprise.
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Can the OP fix the title of this thread so there aren't 50 more like it posted on this site? | |
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and to think for years certain folks came on the Org and talked about Prince badly on a daily basis
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nursev said:
Apparently his LinkedIn says he's Paisley Park estate manager... Why would he need a LinkedIn in the first place? Was he looking for a new job or trying to establish himself as something he may or may not have been? It's weird. Surprise, surprise.
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Seems like a lot of people cannot comprehend chronic pain, don't understand addiction, cannot distinguish between recreational & medicinal drugs, and are willing to condemn people they do not know without evidence or direct knowledge of the situations at hand... Don't hate your neighbors. Hate the media that tells you to hate your neighbors. |
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I'm still not seeing a word of this on CNN news site, nor Dr. Drew's news site. Soooo...I ain't got nothing to say on none of this.