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Is this Kirky J we are talking about? |
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I'm Googling away and I'm not finding any of this. | |
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PurpleDiamonds1 said: Poor Prince....he really needed a friend damn thats what gets me, too. mj lived for his kids and was close to at least some of his sibs. but it is looking more and more that prince had no one he completely trusted to give him unconditional love and support and bore whatever this was, alone and as we know, died alone. i kept wondering why my grief over prince has been so much worse than michael, and i think this is part of the reason why. "do i have a friend tonight?" --prince at his last concert in atlanta  "If u love somebody, your life won't be in vain
And there's always a rainbow, at the end of every rain."--peace and love, dear prince..... | |
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not a single word, me either
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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0 | |
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yop | |
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well , wai to the replay of Dr drew | |
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Why, do you know him?? | |
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RiotPaisley said: FUNKNROLL said: He wasn't a long time user or recently hooked. Per TMZ - he "recently suddenly spiked" his dosage. Sounds like code for deliberate OD to me. What do you call it if there's no note? How does suicide affect insurance? Well the thing with addiction / dependency what have you is this- say I'm an alcoholic and when I finally get help its after I've been drinking 2 pints of whiskey a day. I get sober for a few years and then Decide one day I'm cool and can have a drink. You slip then and it takes a very short time to get to two pints agai . Like one day it's 1 drink. Next day 2. Next day 4 ... Then 8. It's kinda the same with opioids. So if he's been dealing with the pain for awhile, maybe had periods of no meds, cuz he certainly never appeared to use anything... I could see how things could double than triple etc. I've seen it first hand and it doesn't look pretty when it spirals. There's way more to this though. [Edited 5/12/16 16:48pm] Is that why they say that when you relapse you don't start out at square one, but pretty much right back where you left off ? | |
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rap said:
Why, do you know him?? No, I don't. What I really meant to say is that I want to trust him. [Edited 5/12/16 17:26pm] Love is God,
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This all sucks. | |
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cardinal said: PurpleDiamonds1 said: Poor Prince....he really needed a friend
damn thats what gets me, too. mj lived for his kids and was close to at least some of his sibs. but it is looking more and more that prince had no one he completely trusted to give him unconditional love and support and bore whatever this was, alone and as we know, died alone. i kept wondering why my grief over prince has been so much worse than michael, and i think this is part of the reason why. "do i have a friend tonight?" --prince at his last concert in atlanta My opinion...Prince seemed to have a way of touching your soul like no one else could. Plus he gave off such a positive feeling when around, even if it was seeing him perform live at a concert. Shady stuff is going on... [Edited 5/12/16 17:28pm] | |
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In the billboard article it says he took painkillers for his hip pain for ten years. If this is true then they would be on prescription..then why the investigation? Baby, you're a star.
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So if Kirk was an enabler and all these past associates and ex wives knew that why did none of them try to step in and help Prince? I mean this shit is so sad...here they all are at memorials talking about how much they loved him, but this man died alone in a fucking elevator. This is beyond sad. | |
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BillieBalloon said: McD said: Folks, if -- IF -- Kirky J is guilty of everything being suggested, all it means is he did what Prince asked of him. He's hardly Jack The Ripper. No, but somebody died as a result. Somebody is responsible we don't know who yet but I'm sure we will find out. He could have said no at anytime. I don't buy that "he was doing his job bit" his job was to protect Prince. He was trusted because of his history. If he quit and Prince replaced him, people around him may have been more suspect of a new person around and maybe someone else would have stepped in. If Kirk was "just" a yes man, he's a coward and doesn't have much integrity. Kirk could have also gotten hooked on the idea of being the "drug runner" too ... Who knows how far that aspect could have stretched. We tend to glamorize that occupation in this country. How many as Scarface tshirts have you seen? So you got this guy Prince who thinks he is in control of everything and there Kirk, the guy who has the real control because opioids are the ruler when you get deep into it. Sorry but this hits way too close to home for me and I see it from a whole different angle and I'm just losing my mind right now. I can't believe this shit. I really can't and I hope it is all speculative and there's logical reasons for everything but I'm telling you... The Princetagram comic shots. Prince knew what was going on. Surprise, surprise.
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they may not be ...you can -obtain illegally..He may not have wanted his name on a script like that | |
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All I've seen from CNN so far is there were no presciptions for Percocet issued for Prince. That's it for me, so far. [Edited 5/12/16 17:31pm] | |
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morningsong said: I'm Googling away and I'm not finding any of this. Me either... It's bizarre. Surprise, surprise.
Another treat. Another trick. | |
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CNN's waiting for a white Bronco... "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Medical Examiner has already issued a statement that they have not released any information of what was in his system. So nobody right now "knows" that. | |
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lwr001 said:
they may not be ...you can -obtain illegally..He may not have wanted his name on a script like that But he saw doctors, he may have been xrayed..he was diagnosed with hip problems so any drugs could have been obtained legitimately Maybe the issue started when doctors refused to prescribe because they could see a dependency had developed. Baby, you're a star.
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jesme1999 said: RiotPaisley said: Well the thing with addiction / dependency what have you is this- say I'm an alcoholic and when I finally get help its after I've been drinking 2 pints of whiskey a day. I get sober for a few years and then Decide one day I'm cool and can have a drink. You slip then and it takes a very short time to get to two pints agai . Like one day it's 1 drink. Next day 2. Next day 4 ... Then 8. It's kinda the same with opioids. So if he's been dealing with the pain for awhile, maybe had periods of no meds, cuz he certainly never appeared to use anything... I could see how things could double than triple etc. I've seen it first hand and it doesn't look pretty when it spirals. There's way more to this though. [Edited 5/12/16 16:48pm] Is that why they say that when you relapse you don't start out at square one, but pretty much right back where you left off ? That is exactly why. I used to be a heavy drinker, never to the point where it was too impactful on my life but enough and not so bad that when I quit it was too hard, it was just like ok grow up stop. I was a whiskey drinker and could drink beer or whatever once I quit drinking heavy with no problem but then Some shit went down and I had a glass of bourbon. Within two weeks I was finishing a bottle without even realizing it. Scared the crap out of me. Surprise, surprise.
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nursev said: So if Kirk was an enabler and all these past associates and ex wives knew that why did none of them try to step in and help Prince? I mean this shit is so sad...here they all are at memorials talking about how much they loved him, but this man died alone in a fucking elevator. This is beyond sad. this right here. "do i have a friend tonight?" --prince at his last concert in atlanta "If u love somebody, your life won't be in vain
And there's always a rainbow, at the end of every rain."--peace and love, dear prince..... | |
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RiotPaisley said: RachB65 said: I dont believe he was dirty, i believe he took them for pain and got hooked. I know he took them for legit reasons but to obtain them illegally... I just don't know what to think... I feel sick and so sad for him. This looks awful. --- If the doctor cut him off he would have to get them illegally nobody takes Percocet to get high. Those shit are downers they are for pain. | |
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RachB65 said: Seems his associates are saying hes been taking tbem for a decade http://www.billboard.com/...ce=twitter -- Two people one of whom is some dancer we never heard of. | |
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PurpleDiamonds1 said: cardinal said: damn thats what gets me, too. mj lived for his kids and was close to at least some of his sibs. but it is looking more and more that prince had no one he completely trusted to give him unconditional love and support and bore whatever this was, alone and as we know, died alone. i kept wondering why my grief over prince has been so much worse than michael, and i think this is part of the reason why. "do i have a friend tonight?" --prince at his last concert in atlanta My opinion...Prince seemed to have a way of touching your soul like no one else could. Plus he gave off such a positive feeling when around, even if it was seeing him perform live at a concert. Shady stuff is going on... [Edited 5/12/16 17:28pm] yes he did. and he seemed to be a genuinely decent guy who emptied himself for his craft and ended up alone. which makes all the possibilities of his death even more heartbreaking, as if that were possible. "If u love somebody, your life won't be in vain
And there's always a rainbow, at the end of every rain."--peace and love, dear prince..... | |
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did kirk johnson drive prince to walgreens that nite to pick up prescriptions. I saw him referred to as the "building manager" in an old post on prince.org...i guess at paisley park. Any way you look at it, he's in trouble. Did Prince start to reassociate with this guy say the end of 2014 2015 somewhere? | |
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I keep looking at the Princetagram comic...what are you seeing? Kirk over his shoulder.. In blue cap? The "stay out of this"? Please elaborate. RiotPaisley said: BillieBalloon said: No, but somebody died as a result. Somebody is responsible we don't know who yet but I'm sure we will find out. He could have said no at anytime. I don't buy that "he was doing his job bit" his job was to protect Prince. He was trusted because of his history. If he quit and Prince replaced him, people around him may have been more suspect of a new person around and maybe someone else would have stepped in. If Kirk was "just" a yes man, he's a coward and doesn't have much integrity. Kirk could have also gotten hooked on the idea of being the "drug runner" too ... Who knows how far that aspect could have stretched. We tend to glamorize that occupation in this country. How many as Scarface tshirts have you seen? So you got this guy Prince who thinks he is in control of everything and there Kirk, the guy who has the real control because opioids are the ruler when you get deep into it. Sorry but this hits way too close to home for me and I see it from a whole different angle and I'm just losing my mind right now. I can't believe this shit. I really can't and I hope it is all speculative and there's logical reasons for everything but I'm telling you... The Princetagram comic shots. Prince knew what was going on. | |
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