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Thread started 05/04/16 9:53am

Cloreen

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I Have Prince Albums That I Have Never Listened To

Alright, this is a morbid way of doing things, but it's what I do.

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I have every single Clint Eastwood film he starred in. Two I have never watched ("The Beguiled" and "The Gauntlet"). The logic is that one day Clint will no longer be making films but I will have two Clint Eastwood films that I have never seen. It is untapped material from someone who is no longer putting out material.

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I have done this with Akira Kurosawa films and Steven Spielberg films and a Pearl Jam album. I set aside a DVD or CD from those artists to save for that rainy day when those artists no longer are producing work.

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As for Prince, over the years I have set aside some Prince albums that I never took the proper time to listen to and get into. They are not any of his major works from his formative years. The albums I never listened to are "Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic" and "The Vault..Old Friends For Sale." "Rave" I gave one listen the day I bought it and "Vault" I have never played at all. I know they are lesser works. Just imagine if I did this with "Sign O The Times"? Today would be the first time I would be listening to that brilliance. That would be something. As it stands now, I have "Rave" and "Vault" -- two Prince albums I have never listened to that are now wonderful treasures that will be opened for the first time.

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Reply #1 posted 05/04/16 10:28am

berlinas2k

That's actually an interesting and rather clever plan. I applaud your willpower because it's a plan that could require a lot of patience!
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Reply #2 posted 05/04/16 10:31am

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Sheer brilliance. The coolest story of the past few days/weeks.

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Reply #3 posted 05/04/16 10:35am

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Cloreen said:

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I know they are lesser works.

If you claim to have never listened to The Vault at all, how do you know it is a lesser work? Because of the opinions you read on here?

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Reply #4 posted 05/04/16 10:41am

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I was thinking about posting about this. I haven't listened to LoveSexy and Graffitti Bridge all the way through and I'm so glad now because I can listen to them and feel like it's new music. Plus there's all the music I haven't aquired yet and will once everything calms down and people stop trying to gouge us fans.

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Reply #5 posted 05/04/16 10:42am

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You got to see "The Beguiled"... before you see the rmake they are about to drop.

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Reply #6 posted 05/04/16 10:54am

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ufoclub said:

You got to see "The Beguiled"... before you see the rmake they are about to drop.

That movie sucks. Bottom of the barrel Clint Eastwood film. I haven't seen it since the 1980s and never want to again.

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Reply #7 posted 05/04/16 11:00am

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TheDigitalGardener said:

Cloreen said:

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I know they are lesser works.

If you claim to have never listened to The Vault at all, how do you know it is a lesser work? Because of the opinions you read on here?


No kidding. The Vault has some wonderful tracks.

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Reply #8 posted 05/04/16 11:07am

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Genesia said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

If you claim to have never listened to The Vault at all, how do you know it is a lesser work? Because of the opinions you read on here?


No kidding. The Vault has some wonderful tracks.

Yeah, Rave too, for that matter! I love both quite a bit.

Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you!
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Reply #9 posted 05/04/16 11:11am

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The Vault - Old Friends For Sale on the other hand.. it's the period where he sounds best. Good drums, amazing horns... most of his work (even the amazingly good stuff) sounds bad. I listened to it in spite of the sound, not because of it. (he tried to recreate the 1999 sound on MPLSound (I think that was it), but it had simply average songs, it fell flat, imo)

The Vault is a hit. Not all songs are the greatest, and the Old Friends 4 Sale version has the bad vocal version, but it's still a wonderful song. The sound is great. It's a great companion to Come (well, the good half of that album), which also has that great funk sound.

With the vault series that are most likely in our future, you might want to give them a listen.

Although Rave....

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Reply #10 posted 05/04/16 11:19am

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purplethunder3121 said:

ufoclub said:

You got to see "The Beguiled"... before you see the rmake they are about to drop.

That movie sucks. Bottom of the barrel Clint Eastwood film. I haven't seen it since the 1980s and never want to again.


To each his own. I LOVE The Beguiled. Clint's character is such a loathesome bastard in it. razz

Very dark film...

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Reply #11 posted 05/04/16 11:25am

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Sounds like you were just a kinda Prince fan that might be a hoarder in training. Kidding.

I cant imagine being a big fan and not listening to everything in great detail. I have never been a fan of TRC, but I know its ins and outs....in great detail. Either way, enjoy discovering more Prince albums.

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Reply #12 posted 05/04/16 11:29am

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Well since the first time I got into Prince, I could never get into Lovesexy, Around The World In A Day, and half of Parade.

I saw Under The Cherry Moon the other day and have begun to dig the rest of the tracks I could never get into.

Before Prince died I gave ATWIAD a chance and I began to like other songs other than Pop Life which is one of my favorite songs.

And I saw a full Lovesexy concert on Youtube yesterday and I'm warming up to the album now.

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Reply #13 posted 05/04/16 11:52am

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I've heard all the released material many times, but, I've been listening to live shows I've never heard...

Not dead, not in prison, still funkin'...
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Reply #14 posted 05/04/16 11:53am

Cloreen

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DarkKnight1 said:

I cant imagine being a big fan and not listening to everything in great detail.

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That's easy. I have been saving material (albums or movies) for that rainy day with various artists my whole life. The knowing that I have something special awaiting me is a great feeling.

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When "Rave Un2" came out I gave it a once over and set it aside. Didn't hear anything on it that instantly made me want to hit the replay button so I just never played it again. Over the years I ignored it and now it is an unheard Prince album. That's cool to have. Just imagine in the '60s if you were a huge Beatles fan and you decided to skip over their album "Revolver." Now, 2016 you get to hear it for the very first time. That's a pretty special treat. An entire unheard Beatles album for a Beatles fan. Well, I have that with Prince.

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And other artists: Clint Eastwood, Steven Spielberg, Akira Kurosawa, Pearl Jam. I know those artists' work inside and out. I know every single shot Spielberg has ever set up and filmed. Except his film 1989 film ALWAYS. That film I set aside and will watch when Spielberg passes or retires from filmmaking. I will have an entire unseen Spileberg film to enjoy. That's a pretty cool treasure to have.

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Reply #15 posted 05/04/16 12:02pm

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Cloreen said:

DarkKnight1 said:

I cant imagine being a big fan and not listening to everything in great detail.

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That's easy. I have been saving material (albums or movies) for that rainy day with various artists my whole life. The knowing that I have something special awaiting me is a great feeling.

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When "Rave Un2" came out I gave it a once over and set it aside. Didn't hear anything on it that instantly made me want to hit the replay button so I just never played it again. Over the years I ignored it and now it is an unheard Prince album. That's cool to have. Just imagine in the '60s if you were a huge Beatles fan and you decided to skip over their album "Revolver." Now, 2016 you get to hear it for the very first time. That's a pretty special treat. An entire unheard Beatles album for a Beatles fan. Well, I have that with Prince.

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And other artists: Clint Eastwood, Steven Spielberg, Akira Kurosawa, Pearl Jam. I know those artists' work inside and out. I know every single shot Spielberg has ever set up and filmed. Except his film 1989 film ALWAYS. That film I set aside and will watch when Spielberg passes or retires from filmmaking. I will have an entire unseen Spileberg film to enjoy. That's a pretty cool treasure to have.

I totally get what you are saying; I've actually done that,too, without consciously realizing it. I watched Under The Cherry Moon for the first time last Christmas with others who had never seen it despite having had the DVD for years. I still haven't seen Graffiti Bridge... Maybe next Christmas...

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Reply #16 posted 05/04/16 12:10pm

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Cloreen, as another has said, The Vault is great.

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And to the person that hasn't listened to Lovesexy all the way through, I can understand if you have the "one long track" CD version. But keep on trying -- it's a trip.

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Reply #17 posted 05/04/16 12:10pm

Cloreen

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purplethunder3121 said:

I totally get what you are saying; I've actually done that,too, without consciously realizing it.

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Yeah, it's actually pretty common human behavior. Kind of like setting aside something on your dinner plate for that final bite. Many people do that.

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Reply #18 posted 05/04/16 12:21pm

Cloreen

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thx185 said:

Cloreen, as another has said, The Vault is great.

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And to the person that hasn't listened to Lovesexy all the way through, I can understand if you have the "one long track" CD version. But keep on trying -- it's a trip.

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See, this goofy plan that I have been doing works. I now have an entire great Prince album I have yet to hear! That's a cool feeling to have.

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And as for LOVESEXY, yeah, that is a top, top Prince album. I have been playing all his albums in order since Prince has passsed and after LOVESEXY finished I said to myself, "Man, this album is better than SIGN O THE TIMES." Really a great album. Always loved it and now I discovered that I love it even more.

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Reply #19 posted 05/04/16 12:27pm

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Cloreen said:

Alright, this is a morbid way of doing things, but it's what I do.

.

I have every single Clint Eastwood film he starred in. Two I have never watched ("The Beguiled" and "The Gauntlet"). The logic is that one day Clint will no longer be making films but I will have two Clint Eastwood films that I have never seen. It is untapped material from someone who is no longer putting out material.

'

I have done this with Akira Kurosawa films and Steven Spielberg films and a Pearl Jam album. I set aside a DVD or CD from those artists to save for that rainy day when those artists no longer are producing work.

.

As for Prince, over the years I have set aside some Prince albums that I never took the proper time to listen to and get into. They are not any of his major works from his formative years. The albums I never listened to are "Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic" and "The Vault..Old Friends For Sale." "Rave" I gave one listen the day I bought it and "Vault" I have never played at all. I know they are lesser works. Just imagine if I did this with "Sign O The Times"? Today would be the first time I would be listening to that brilliance. That would be something. As it stands now, I have "Rave" and "Vault" -- two Prince albums I have never listened to that are now wonderful treasures that will be opened for the first time.

I love Clint Eastwood as well and I marvel at his heartiness and productivity even as an octogenarian. Was really hoping Prince would be like that, and honestly, I think he would have without a few things going wrong. His father lived to 85. With Clint, he is so prolific that as big a fan as I am, I haven't even watched all his films, I saw a quadruple feature last night on dvd for sale at target, it was some baseball movie and Hoover movie and couple others,semi recent and all practically unknown. I didn't buy them, but probably should have. Guys like he and Prince seem to just keep moving and not worry about results/hits/flops, that's the way an artist should be.

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Reply #20 posted 05/04/16 12:27pm

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Cloreen said:

Alright, this is a morbid way of doing things, but it's what I do.

.

I have every single Clint Eastwood film he starred in. Two I have never watched ("The Beguiled" and "The Gauntlet"). The logic is that one day Clint will no longer be making films but I will have two Clint Eastwood films that I have never seen. It is untapped material from someone who is no longer putting out material.

'

I have done this with Akira Kurosawa films and Steven Spielberg films and a Pearl Jam album. I set aside a DVD or CD from those artists to save for that rainy day when those artists no longer are producing work.

.

As for Prince, over the years I have set aside some Prince albums that I never took the proper time to listen to and get into. They are not any of his major works from his formative years. The albums I never listened to are "Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic" and "The Vault..Old Friends For Sale." "Rave" I gave one listen the day I bought it and "Vault" I have never played at all. I know they are lesser works. Just imagine if I did this with "Sign O The Times"? Today would be the first time I would be listening to that brilliance. That would be something. As it stands now, I have "Rave" and "Vault" -- two Prince albums I have never listened to that are now wonderful treasures that will be opened for the first time.

I love Clint Eastwood as well and I marvel at his heartiness and productivity even as an octogenarian. Was really hoping Prince would be like that, and honestly, I think he would have without a few things going wrong. His father lived to 85. With Clint, he is so prolific that as big a fan as I am, I haven't even watched all his films, I saw a quadruple feature last night on dvd for sale at target, it was some baseball movie and Hoover movie and couple others,semi recent and all practically unknown. I didn't buy them, but probably should have. Guys like he and Prince seem to just keep moving and not worry about results/hits/flops, that's the way an artist should be.

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Reply #21 posted 05/04/16 12:39pm

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That is a plan... however, one lesson that we can take from sudden deaths are that we, for whatever reason, might not be around to do tomorrow what we could have done today (or yesterday). Food for thought...

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Reply #22 posted 05/04/16 12:40pm

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Clint = Prince

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You know there is a great deal of similarity in their careers. Both had tremendous critical and public success. Both also had a moment in their career of extraordinary success where they were the biggest thing in the world of entertainment. And at that point they both seemed to pull back and do projects that they wanted to do. Both clearly did things their way. You could never tell what the next Prince album was going to sound like and you can never tell what the next Clint film will be like. A World War II film from the perspective of the Japanese? Man, that's as out there as "N.E.W.S."

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Reply #23 posted 05/04/16 12:48pm

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pdiddy2011 said:

That is a plan... however, one lesson that we can take from sudden deaths are that we, for whatever reason, might not be around to do tomorrow what we could have done today (or yesterday). Food for thought...

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Yeah, but if I go (which is what you are getting at), I'm not going to be saying, "Damn, I should have listened to "Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic."

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Whatever heaven is I think I'll have other interests than a Clint Eastwood movie I never saw or some Prince songs I never heard. I mean, yeah, I love Prince...but that's here on Earth. Up there there are new frontiers to discover and love. I don't see Prince fitting into it. Besides, God's going to be very angry if I start playing "Jack U Off" and "Sexy MF."

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Reply #24 posted 05/04/16 12:48pm

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Just listen to the albums. lol Avoid Undisputed. ick.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #25 posted 05/04/16 12:49pm

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Cloreen said:

Clint = Prince

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You know there is a great deal of similarity in their careers. Both had tremendous critical and public success. Both also had a moment in their career of extraordinary success where they were the biggest thing in the world of entertainment. And at that point they both seemed to pull back and do projects that they wanted to do. Both clearly did things their way. You could never tell what the next Prince album was going to sound like and you can never tell what the next Clint film will be like. A World War II film from the perspective of the Japanese? Man, that's as out there as "N.E.W.S."

ya, just amazing, he never stopped growing and changing as a man. From Dirty Harry all the way to the more circumspect work of later years. You know what else is odd? I used to see him and think "this guy just cannot act" but after watching so much, it's the subtelties that kill me. The little smile and nod at the woman in High Plains Drifter, the way he says "home?" in The outlaw Josey Wales. I still say he's far superior an artist and filmaker than an actor though. as a filmaker he's truly great, as an actor? Well, he sure had a strong presence.

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Reply #26 posted 05/04/16 12:53pm

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also, even us fanatics have albums we're not familiar with. Albums I maybe half-listened to one time. The Rainbow Children never got me, some of the odds and ends albums that were released I've never listened to that closely (crystal ball, the vault). And I still say that the triple release with lotusflower/minneapolis sound was one of his weakest and least compelling. Like a champ, he came back last year with Artificial Age which maybe was up there with anything he did. I'd have to say, Prince was still capable of making me feel the same way I did when I was a 13 year old kid and he'd mesmerize me with the Controversy album, he never lost his magic to me.

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2freaky4church1 said:

Just listen to the albums. lol Avoid Undisputed. ick.

what you got against chuck d

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Reply #28 posted 05/04/16 12:58pm

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PeteSilas said:

I used to see him and think "this guy just cannot act"

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Yeah, not known as an actor, but that's because his two main characters - Man With No Name and Dirty Harry - are so iconic that no one ever really takes the time to acknowledge the performance behind those characters which made them iconic. Kind of like Sean Connery with James Bond. Had a lesser actor gotten that role in 1962, the character would never have become what it is today. Same with Clint. Had a poor actor gotten those roles, those characters would have disappeared after one film.

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Reply #29 posted 05/04/16 1:08pm

PeteSilas

he just seems so flat in his delivery. Part of it's his temperament, he's introverted, softspoken by nature I think. I love to hear his interviews that show what's going on in his head. He also seems pretty humble for a major star too. As a leader, it's interesting how he can get performances out of people (even though he hires b talent to save money sometimes) and still be a nice guy. You watch him direct and there is no ego there, just direction.

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