And the MUSIC continues...forever...

http://prince.org/msg/7/424678 the Purple Rain era 1983 - 1985

http://prince.org/msg/7/425840 Prince & the Revolution Purple Rain the movie 1984(script)

http://prince.org/msg/7/424681 the Purple Rain tour & performances 1983-1985

Let's Go Crazy, Take Me With U, the Beautiful Ones, Computer Blue, Darling Nikki, When Doves Cry, I Would Die 4 U, Baby I'm A Star, Purple Rain

17 Days, Erotic City, God the Dance Electric, Another Lonely Christmas

God the Love Theme, Possessed, Modernaire, Sugar Walls,

Traffic Jam, Wonderful Ass, Cold Coffee & Coccaine, Lust U Always, Electric Intercourse, G-Spot, Fathers Song, Wednesday, Our Destiny, Roadhouse Garden...

Prince: the music, the Purple Rain album Singles Bsides extended versions & outtakes

the Revolution: Bobby Z Dr Matt Fink Lisa Coleman Brown Mark Brown Wendy Melvoin
Susan Rogers, Jill Jones, Novi Novog, Suzi Katayama

Dez Dickerson & the Modernaires

Albert Magnoli & William Blinn Alan Leeds

Clarence Williams, Olga Karlatos, Kim U

Dig If U Will the Picture...
Erotic City, can't U see?

Come on and touch the place in me
A world of never ending happiness
Bring 2 life a vision in one's mind

He gave us light 2 rule the day

Lookin 4 my sunshine
U are the one that makes my love shout

Is the water warm enough?

Your dirty little Prince wanna grind

Make U happy when U're sad
Tell me do U like what U see?
I only wanted 2 see U bathing in the purple

The Starr ★ Company

http://prince.org/msg/7/422477 Prince & the Time Ice Cream Castles 1983-1984

AND THEN CAME THE RAIN

http://prince.org/msg/7/422517 Prince and Apollonia 6 -1984-1985

http://prince.org/msg/7/422538 Prince Sheila E. & the Glamorous Life 1984-1985

"Would you like to play with my timbales?"

When Doves Cry ~ Prince 1984

Some History

According to the Purple Rain DVD, Prince was asked by the director to write a song to match the theme of a particular segment of the film – one which involved intermingled parental difficulties and a love affair. The next morning, Prince had reportedly composed two songs, one of which was "When Doves Cry". According to Per Nilsen, Prince's biographer, the song was inspired by his relationship with Vanity 6 member, Susan Moonsie.

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Dr (Matt)Fink:

The first time Prince ever played "When Doves Cry" for me was without the bassline. I'll never forget he took me and Bobby Z on a ride in this big white Cadillac in LA. He popped in "When Doves Cry" and of course my immediate reaction was, "Hey, there's no bassline in this song. Are you going to add one?" [Laughs] And Prince just says, "No." And I'm like, "Well, why not?" And he goes, "Because that's how it's going to be." I really questioned him because it sounded funny without a bassline on there. I wasn't ready for it and it tricked the hell out of my ears. But the ridiculous thing is when you listen to "When Doves Cry" today it still sounds groundbreaking and so unique. It never gets old.

I think the Linn drum hit and the wild guitar intro with the weird vocals made people stop and say, "What the hell is this?" It was very weird, creepy, and brilliant. The lyrics are really intense. This is a pop song talking about someone dealing with having a difficult childhood and how it can mess you up. And then you got these slightly de-tuned strings sounds coming out of the Oberheim keyboard. And then there's that thing at the end where Prince does that crazy keyboard solo. I asked him, "How am I going to play that every night?" You almost have to be a virtuoso classical pianist, but I nailed it. The funny part is Prince revealed to me that he took the 24 track two-inch tape machine and slowed it down to the half speed setting. He played the solo half time and sped the tape back up, which made the solo much easier to play. But Prince always handed the football to me when we did "When Doves Cry" live. It was if he was saying, "Here, you play it, dude [laughs]."

There is no bass line, which is very unusual for a dance song; Prince has said that there originally was a bass line, but decided, after a conversation with singer Jill Jones, that the song was too conventional with it intact

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Dig if u will the picture
Of u and I engaged in a kiss
The sweat of your body covers me
Can u my darling
Can u picture this?

Dream if u can a courtyard
An ocean of violets in bloom
Animals strike curious poses
They feel the heat
The heat between me and u

How can u just leave me standing?
Alone in a world that's so cold? (so cold)
Maybe Im just 2 demanding
Maybe Im just like my father 2 bold
Maybe you're just like my mother
Shes never satisfied (shes never satisfied)
Why do we scream at each other
This is what it sounds like
When doves cry

Touch if u will my stomach
Feel how it trembles inside
Youve got the butterflies all tied up
Don't make me chase u
Even doves have pride

How can u just leave me standing?
Alone in a world so cold? (world so cold)
Maybe Im just 2 demanding
Maybe Im just like my father 2 bold
Maybe you're just like my mother
Shes never satisfied (shes never satisfied)
Why do we scream at each other
This is what it sounds like
When doves cry

How can u just leave me standing?
Alone in a world that's so cold? (a world that's so cold)
Maybe Im just 2 demanding (maybe, maybe Im like my father)
Maybe Im just like my father 2 bold (ya know he's 2 bold)
Maybe you're just like my mother (maybe you're just like my mother)
Shes never satisfied (shes never, never satisfied)
Why do we scream at each other (why do we scream, why)
This is what it sounds like

When doves cry
When doves cry (doves cry, doves cry)
When doves cry (doves cry, doves cry)

Don't cry (don't cry)

When doves cry
When doves cry
When doves cry

When doves cry (doves cry, doves cry, doves cry
Don't cry
Darling don't cry
Don't cry
Don't cry
Don't don't cry

The music video (directed by Prince himself) was released on MTV in June 1984. It opens with white doves emerging from double doors to reveal Prince in a bathtub. It also includes scenes from the Purple Rain film interspersed with shots of The Revolution performing and dancing in a white room. The final portion of the video incorporates a mirrored frame of the left half of the picture, creating a doubling effect. The video was nominated for Best Choreography at 1985's MTV Video Music Awards.

Touch if U will my stomach
Feel how it trembles inside
U've got the butterflies all tied up
Don't make me chase U
Even doves have pride

How could U just leave me standing
Alone in a world so cold? (World so cold)

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Dig if U will the picture
Of U and I engaged in a kiss
The sweat of your body covers me
Can U my darling
Can U picture this?

Dream if U can a courtyard
An ocean of violets in bloom
Animals strike curious poses
They feel the heat
The heat between me and U

How can U just leave me standing
Alone in a world that's so cold? (So cold)

When doves cry

When doves cry

When doves cry

Don't cry

Don't cry

PURPLE RAIN
PRINCE AND THE REVOLUTION
Warner Bros.

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The spirit of Jimi Hendrix must surely smile down on Prince Rogers Nelson. Like Hendrix, Prince seems to have tapped into some extraterrestrial musical dimension where black and white styles are merely different aspects of the same funky thing. Prince's rock & roll is as authentic and compelling as his soul and his extremism is endearing in a era of play-it-safe record production and formulaic hit mongering.

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The Hendrix connection is made overt here... with the manic burst that opens When Doves Cry

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Anyone partial to great creators should own this record. Like Jimi and Sly, Prince is an original; but apart from that, he's like no one else.

-- KURT LODER

OldFriends4Sale said:

The music video (directed by Prince himself) was released on MTV in June 1984. It opens with white doves emerging from double doors to reveal Prince in a bathtub. It also includes scenes from the Purple Rain film interspersed with shots of The Revolution performing and dancing in a white room. The final portion of the video incorporates a mirrored frame of the left half of the picture, creating a doubling effect. The video was nominated for Best Choreography at 1985's MTV Video Music Awards.

Luckiest bath tub in the world too cool

When Doves Cry for a video at the time really was ahead of its time

PHILADELPHIA DAILY NEWS

Tuesday, July 31, 1984
Section: FEATURES
Page: 43

THE FLAMBOYANT PRINCE OF POP

By JONATHAN TAKIFF, Daily News Pop Music Writer

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And now, with his debut in "Purple Rain," Prince proves his commanding presence and artistic vision can cut it in feature-length films, as well.

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Inspired by the MTV music video revolution, the music and dramatic plot are treated as equal partners in this cinematic saga - a semi-autobiographical show-biz yarn. Powerful performance footage both opens and closes the film. Prince's original score - second-best-selling album in the nation this week, which contains the number one single, "When Doves Cry" - effectively comments on every dramatic turn of events.

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The shot-from-the-hip camera angles, smoky atmospheric lighting and rapid- fire, cut-to-the-beat editing employed by directing newcomer Albert Magnoli are likewise drawn from music video motifs.

MIAMI HERALD

PRINCE PACKS A PUNCH

Prince and the Revolution
Music from the Motion Picture "Purple Rain"
(Warner Bros.)

While his previous albums established Prince's musical creativity, driving sense of syncopation and passion for sexual lyrics, Purple Rain serves as an affirmation of his versatility and substance as a performer and composer. This finely produced album, which doubles as a soundtrack for the film Purple Rain, pulses with rhythm and sizzles with steamy sensuousness.

From the hot licks and throbbing rhythms of the erotic When Doves Cry and the compelling rockers Let's Go Crazy and I Would Die, to the heartrending beauty of the dreamy, soulful The Beautiful Ones and the title cut Purple Rain, this album delves beneath Prince's flashy sex-symbol image and shows us the heart and soul underneath.

Purple Rain is much more than just a dance album or a soundtrack, though it does possess the best of both styles. There's no fluffy filler here; every song stands strongly on its own as another majestic offering from the Prince. PICK

-- LINDA R. THORNTON

NEW MUSICAL EXPRESS
August 04, 1984

4-Star Dirt

The problem with major league soul is nog a lack of 'good' music. What has been lost is the ability, possibly the desire, to make records that relate to the aspirations and needs of community. In the past Mayfiels, Wonder and JB fulfilled a purpose by communicating on a social as wel as an emotional level. Nowadays Michael Jackson and Prince set themselves in a select firmament and nurture the cult of celebrity for its own sake, lighting our lives with a blessed gift to entertain.

That's not to say their entertainment is not often brilliant and enthralling, to these ears 'When Doves Cry' is One Of The Greatest Records Ever Made...

That said I can't help but be washed away by the bulk of the goods on display on this the fifth LP by the boy. The beauteous mix of guitar snarls, synth stabs and melodic elegy that make up "When Doves Cry" could have come from no-one but him and this uncanny knack for mix matching dynamic raunch and epic balladry is brone out elsewhere on the record. Compared to the inferior tracks from "1999", too many small ideas stretched into brittle dirges, these songs are full bodied and deep enough to show off the Prince's treasures to best advantage.

-- Gavin Martin

Thanks for this pick me up thread Oldfriends.

Guitarhero said:

Thanks for this pick me up thread Oldfriends.

U R Welcome
I need it 2, 2 celebrate Prince in the midst of all this crazy speculation

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You literally make the *best* threads.

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Especially at this time, when they are needed. Thank you so much for your thought and time.

He was right in saying "They'll Never B Another Like Me"... Oh how true that is.

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Album Credits
Lisa Coleman: Keyboards and Voice
Wendy: Guitar and Voice
Bobby Z: Percussion
Brown Mark: Bass and Voice
Matt Fink: Keyboards and Voice
All thanks 2 God: the light,

Lisa & Wendy, Bobby, Mark & Matt: The Revolution,

Big Chick: the protector,

Steve, Bob & Joe: the producers,

Albert Magnoli: the director,

Peggy Mac: the patience,

Fred Moultrie: the money,

Lee Phillips: the brains

Warner Bros. Records & Film: belief,

God 4 the "rain",

Sandy: the case,

The Time: “chicken grease”,

Apollonia 6: Susan, Brenda & Apollonia: patience, wisdom & beauty,

Jill: love,

Roy Bennett: loyalty,

David Leonard: the blade,

Susan Rogers: energy, C

arol McGovney: devotion,

God: 4 the rainbow

William Blinn: the story,

Alan Leeds: the expert.

Thanks 2 Don Thorin and all the cast & crew of Purple Rain

Clarence Williams, Olga Karlatos, Kim: hi,

Morris & Jerome, Katy, Billy Sparks: what up ‘tho? Richard Arrington,

God: 4 the sun,

Wally, Gator, Dez Dickerson & the Modernaires,

Steve & everybody at 1st Avenue,

all the extras & anybody else we foolhardedly forgot 2 mention.

Thanks 2 all, may u live 2 see the Dawn.

PURPLE RAIN
PRINCE AND THE REVOLUTION
Warner Bros.

The spirit of Jimi Hendrix must surely smile down on Prince Rogers Nelson. Like Hendrix, Prince seems to have tapped into some extraterrestrial musical dimension where black and white styles are merely different aspects of the same funky thing. Prince's rock & roll is as authentic and compelling as his soul and his extremism is endearing in a era of play-it-safe record production and formulaic hit mongering. "Purple Rain" may not yield another smash like last year's "Little Red Corvette," but it's so loaded with life and invention and pure rock & roll thunder that such commercial considerations become moot. When Prince sings "Baby I'm a Star," it's a simple statement of fact.

The Hendrix connection is made overt here with the screaming guitar coda that ends "Let's Go Crazy," with the manic burst that opens "When Doves Cry" and in the title song, a space ballad that recalls "Angel" with its soaring guitar leads and a very Hendrixian lyrical tinge ("It's time we all reach out for something new -- that means you, too"). There are also constant reminders of Sly Stone in the ferocious bass lines and the hot, dance-conscious mix. But like Jimi and Sly, Prince writes his own rules. Some of his effects are singularly striking - note that eerie, atonal synthesizer touches that creep in at the end of "The Beautiful Ones" and the otherworldly backward-vocal montage in the frankly salacious "Darling Nikki" -- and his vocals continue to be among the most adventurous and accomplished on the current scene. Prince also does wonderful things with string-section sounds, and his band -- if it's not actually him playing all the parts -- burns throughout.

Anyone partial to great creators should own this record. Like Jimi and Sly, Prince is an original; but apart from that, he's like no one else.

-- KURT LODER

The Purple Rain era:

What can you tell us about the overall vibe of Prince and the whole band on, the night you debuted the Purple Rain tracks at First Ave in Minneapolis? What do you remember of that day before the show and that night after this legendary performance? How nervous do you remember Wendy being before her first gig with the band that night?

We were so well rehearsed that any opening night jitters melted away after the first song was played. I think Wendy was more excited than nervous.

Tell us about your experience the day that Purple Rain premiered at Hollywood's Mann's Chinese Theater in California. What was going through your head seeing yourself on the big screen?

The whole thing was so surreal that day that the memory of it still seems like a dream. Seeing oneself on the big screen for the first time is also a dream come true. Of course, you hope that your complexion is looking OK on a close up.

Dr Fink w/Taja Sevelle

Dig if u will the picture - of u and I engaged in a kiss.

The sweat of your body covers me.

Can u picture this, my darling?

An ocean of violets engulf our persons.

A bird screams.

At 1st, I think it's u and u thought it was me.

Oh, if only violets could talk.

Insecurities.

Do u know who u are?

Then it doesn't matter who screamed 1st.

Did it matter who ate of the apple 1st?

The end result was negative.

Can u pass me the pepper?

Why, because u told me salt was bad 4 me.

I thought u liked eggs.

I thought u liked me.

Well, eggs are the only thing I can make besides a baby.

Why do u look at me like that?

What are u thinking?

I know u better than u think I do.

There's this purple suspicion that lurks in the anals of my mind that u and I are alike in more ways than 6.

Can u relate?

oh yeah?

Then what's the difference between a beautiful man and an ugly man with money?

Nothing - as far as you're concerned.

Do u still want 2 spend the night?

Good.

Come on.

U said u would wash my hair.

Shall we go swimming 1st?

U can't swim.

Wonderful.

"I'll teach u 2 swim, I'll teach u 2 try, I'll teach u 2 laugh, but not 2 cry. I'll teach u 2 trust me when u think I lie, I'll teach u 2 love me until we die."

It's from a song I wrote.

Do u believe that?

U do?

Well, I lied.

I just made it up.

Pretty good, huh.

It's not nice 2 lie.

I think we're on the right track.

Shall I wash u 1st or shall u wash me?

GirlBrother said:

I just read this crazy essay, which states that Purple Rain is a feminist film. https://nextwaving.wordpr...rple-rain/ She obviously took a toilet break at the point when Morris throws a woman in a dumpster. I can sort of see where she's coming from but... The Kid is shitty to everybody until the finale, not just women!

the Morris E. Day character never got his hands dirty lol

OldFriends4Sale said:

When doves cry

When doves cry

When doves cry

Don't cry

Don't cry

I never get tired of seeing this video This is Prince's best music video