AND THEN CAME THE RAIN

The Starr ★ Company

Jamie Starr Morris Day Jessie Johnson Jerome Benton Jellybean Johnson

Jimmy Jam Terry Lewis Monte Moore

St Paul Peterson Jerry Hubbard Mark Cardenas

Novi Novog Sharon Hughes

Proposition #17 Old & Ingnorant

Ice Cream Castles My Drawers Chili Sauce Jungle Love the Bird and If The Kid Can't Make You Come
Tricky

My Summertime Thang Chocolate My Love Belongs To You and Velvet Kitty Cat

Cloreen Baconskin

Prince & the Time(What Time Is It?) 1982-1983*

http://prince.org/msg/7/421121

The sun set in my heart this afternoon
4 2 friends of mine got stuck in the snow
In Uptown when winter's alarmin', oh
Cocaine becomes charmin'
But U talk about things U don't know 'bout
I know, no matter how pleasant your past was
Green and white return 2 blue
U're happy as long as your last buzz
And then U think U want something new, yeah

Ice cream castles (7:32)
recorded January 1984 by [Prince] with [Morris Day] & [Jesse Johnson] at Sunset Sound • performed by [Prince] (all instruments) with [Morris Day] (lead vocals) & [Jesse Johnson] (guitar) • final mixing January 1984 at Sunset Sound
written by [Prince] (uncredited) with [Morris Day] • registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr) with [Morris Day]
finally released 1984 on the Album [Ice Cream Castle] • 1984 on the promo 12"-Single [Ice cream castles] • 1984 on the 12"-Single [Ice cream castles]

We are young, we are free on earth together
Let's fall in love
You are fine, you are white, I am of color
Let's fall in love

Ice cream castles in the summertime
Ice cream castles in the summer

I want you, you want me, we want each other
Is that so wrong?
It's raining mad sisters, why can't they realize
That it won't be long?

We're all ice cream castles in the summertime
Ice cream castles in the summer

Let's do something soon

We are young, we are free let's come together
Before the end
I am blue, you are too, what could be better?
Let's make friends

We're all ice cream castles in the summertime
Ice cream castles in the summertime

We're all ice cream castles in the summer
Ice cream castles in the fall
Ice cream castles in the summertime
Summertime, summertime, summertime

Is that what you need?
White girls, black girls, orientals, jamaican?

Ice cream castles in the summertime
We're all ice cream castles in the sun
Ice cream castles when we fall
Ice cream castles in the summertime, summertime

White girls, black girls, orientals, jamaican
I want you, you want me, we want each other
White girls, black girls
We are young, we are free on earth together

Let's do something, let's do something soon
Let's do something, let's do something soon
Let's do something, let's do something soon
Let's do something, let's do something soon

Let's do something, let's do something soon
Let's do something, let's do something soon
Let's do something, let's do something soon
Let's do something, let's do something soon
We are young, we are free, let's come together

(4) INT. SHOWER, MORRIS' APT. -- NIGHT

MORRIS DAY stands in the shower, steam
whirling about his face. He's 22 years
old, matinee-idol sexy with large, dark,
bedroom eyes. He headlines a slick
techno-funk group called THE TIME which
sports gangster suits and wide-brimmed
hats. He's gifted with a wealth of self-
laudatory humor which he uses like a
knife, moving through life with a calm,
but ruthless grace.

Make no mistake, Morris is nobody's
fool. His seeming out-raceousness, his
charm -- every move he makes is for a
calculated effect. He knows exactly
what the ladies need, and doesn't mind
reminding them should they forget ...


He breaks into a wide grin. Hair
standing up like Don King, he wipes off
a hand mirror, regards himself
unabashedly as he brushes his teeth.

already a cool thread!

listening to Ice Cream Castles right now.

SignOthetimes1987 said:

already a cool thread!

listening to Ice Cream Castles right now.

me tooooo!!! But why the Old Friends For Sale lyrics Old Friends?

SignOthetimes1987 said:

already a cool thread!

yes.

ComeHereLetMeCutYourHair said:

ComeHereLetMeCutYourHair said:

SignOthetimes1987 said:

already a cool thread!

listening to Ice Cream Castles right now.

me tooooo!!! But why the Old Friends For Sale lyrics Old Friends?

the connection to Morris Day around this time

like Movie Star
I'm going to add more to that post in connection

4. Ice Cream Castle pt 1

On 26th and 27th March 1983, during the 2nd leg of [Prince]'s "1999"-Tour, [Prince] spends two days at Hollywood Sunset Sound to work with [Morris Day] and [Jesse Johnson] on tracks for THE TIME's third album. This was the first time, that some members of band were involved in the production process. They cut Jungle love, My summertime thang and an impromptu jam entitled Cloreen bacon skin, which was only released by [Prince] on his 1998 [Crystal Ball] album. My summertime thang finally didn't make it on this release, but a re-recorded version surfaced on THE TIME's 1990 reunion album [Pandemonium].

From 14th to 22nd April 1983, the "1999"-Tour ends 4 only days before, [Prince] works with [Morris Day] and [Jesse Johnson] at Hollywood Sunset Sound again. Amongst other tracks they recorded Chili sauce, If the kid can't make you come and Chocolate. The last song didn't make it to this album too, but like My summertime thang, a reworked version turned up on the 1990 reunion album [Pandemonium].

On 19th April 1983, a song called Velvet kitty kat (sometimes also entitled as "Mink kitty kat") and on 20th April 1983, a ballad entitled My love belongs to you were recorded too. Both were previously unreleased until now.

On 18th April 1983, [Prince] called [Jimmy Jam] and [Terry Lewis] into Hollywood Sunset Sound, and told them, that they were both let go from THE TIME. The duo stays in Los Angeles at the same time and working on the S.O.S. Band project at Larrabee Studios in West Hollywood. On 16th May 1983 [Prince] appears at the 3rd annual Minnesota Music Awards at the Charlton Celebrity Room in Bloomington and was finally honored with six awards. He thanked Minneapolis for its support and ended the night with a 10-minute jam of "D.M.S.R." on borrowed equipment with a mix of members of his own band, [Morris Day], [Jesse Johnson] and Vanity 6. Later this night they performed a jam session at First Avenue in Minneapolis with [Jesse Johnson] on drums and Sue Ann Carwell singing the lead vocals. Also in May 1983 [Prince], THE TIME and Vanity 6 starts preparations for the "Purple Rain" motion picture project. A warehouse in St. Louis Park, a Minneapolis suburb, was rented for band rehearsals and dancing and acting classes. [Prince] also installed most of his recording equipment and this warehouse becomes his new home studio for about 12 months. The line-up of THE TIME finally underwent some more changes. [Monte Moir] made the decision to leave the band when he heard, that [Jimmy Jam] and [Terry Lewis] had been let go by Prince. [Terry Lewis] was replaced on bass by [Rocky Harris], a local musician who knew [Jesse Johnson]. The replacements for [Jimmy Jam] and [Monte Moir] on keyboards were found in [Paul Peterson], a member of Twin-Cities first family in jazz and [Mark Cardenas], a Los Angeles native, who had been working in jazz-rock fusion circles in Minneapolis a few years before. On 4th October 1983, the new THE TIME line-up premiered live at First Avenue in Minneapolis. [Jerome Benton] introduced the show, enlisting the help of several bikini-clad models. He also did a soul-preacher routine, begging the audience for donations and passing a plate through the audience for their contributions to a charity fund. THE TIME played an 8-song set that includes two at this time previously unknown tracks - Jungle love and The bird. The concert was taped professional with a mobile recording unit and the live-version of The bird finally ended up on THE TIME's third album [Ice Cream Castle]. Despite a wildly receptive audience, this concert was filled with tension and it was obvious, that [Morris Day] was beginning to loose interest in the band. At the end of the show he stormed off the stage, bypassed the dressing room, and charged out the stagedoor to his Porsche. The confused band members remained behind for a somewhat tainted celebration. [Morris Day] was very dissatisfied with [Prince]'s firm control of THE TIME and the hand-picked additions to the band. Despite achieving a big commercial success with the previously two albums of THE TIME, he was also still seeing very little money for his work. The shooting to the "Purple Rain" motion picture starts on 1st November 1983. The new bass player [Rocky Harris] showed up late for the first day of filming and was replaced by [Prince] with [Jerry Hubbard], from a noted Twin-Cities musical family, immediately. [Morris Day] was very uncooperative and chronically late to all rehearsals and filmings. He and [Prince] hardly talked with each other during the whole shooting of the movie. At one day of filming both ended up in a real fistfight and [Jellybean Johnson] had to break it up. It was evident, that they both would soon be going their separate ways without each other.

Starting on 27th December 1983, [Prince] relocates for four months to Los Angeles for some additional shootings to the "Purple Rain" motion picture and extensive recording sessions for his own "Purple Rain" album, and a new project called Apollonia 6 at Hollywood Sunset Sound. In January 1984 he also finished the work for THE TIME's third album by recording Ice cream castles and My drawers. Tricky, that appeared as the 7inch b-side of Ice cream castles, was recorded with [Morris Day] shortly thereafter in February 1984.

On 8th June 1984, THE TIME, led by [Jesse Johnson], performed Jungle love live on the 3rd annual Minnesota Black Music Awards at the Prom Center in St. Paul. [Morris Day] wasn't present at this event and his conspicuous absence sparked rumors, that THE TIME had broken up. In late June 1984 [Morris Day] was definitely no longer interested to continuing his work with THE TIME, has moved to Santa Monica in Los Angeles (CA) and severed ties with [Prince]'s camp and his management team. Their departures weren't announced officially until after the premiere of the "Purple Rain" motion picture. Without [Morris Day], it was basically [Jesse Johnson] who leads the band. [Prince] initially wanted continue THE TIME by installing [Paul Peterson] as new frontman and lead-singer, but [Jesse Johnson] rejected this idea. After failed attempts to convince [Morris Day] to return to Minneapolis, all come to the conclusion, that THE TIME was history. [Jerry Hubbard] and [Mark Cardenas] decided to continue working solo with [Jesse Johnson]. The remaining members [Jellybean Johnson], [Jerome Benton] and [Paul Peterson] were invited by [Prince] to a meeting at his house, where he offered [Paul Peterson] to front a new band called The Family as the lead-singer. This project was later joined by [Prince]'s girlfriend Susannah Melvoin on co-lead vocals.

1. Ice Cream Castles
2. My Drawers
3. Chili Sauce
4. Jungle Love
5. If The Kid Can't Make You Come
6. The Bird

God: 4 the rainbow

William Blinn: the story,

Alan Leeds: the expert.

Thanks 2 Don Thorin and all the cast & crew of Purple Rain

Clarence Williams, Olga Karlatos, Kim: hi,

Morris & Jerome, Katy, Billy Sparks: what up ‘tho? Richard Arrington,

Am I the only one who wasn't totally thrilled with the 'Ice Cream Castles' album? It's OK,but I think it lacks the fun party vibe of What Time Is It?.

"Jungle Love" is a good song but it's kinda repetitive."Chili Sauce" can rightfully be called filler.The slow jam "If The Kid Can't Make You Come" isn't very good....kinda silly

The album's best song is "My Drawers"

(7) INT. MORRIS' BEDROOM -- NIGHT

Morris moves lasciviously into the
BEDROOM wearing a red muscle T-shirt,
orange baggy shorts, and green knee-hi
socks fastened to garters. A yellow
bandanna holds up his hair.

The bedroom is a MESS. A VACUUM CLEANER
stands like a sentry in the middle of
the floor. He turns it on, blazes a
path to his closet. He yanks out a well-
pressed suit, holds it against him,
strikes a sexy, half-lidded pose only a
mother could love--

MORRIS
(awed)
Oh, Lord ...

OldFriends4Sale said:

(7) INT. MORRIS' BEDROOM -- NIGHT

Morris moves lasciviously into the
BEDROOM wearing a red muscle T-shirt,
orange baggy shorts, and green knee-hi
socks fastened to garters. A yellow
bandanna holds up his hair.

The bedroom is a MESS. A VACUUM CLEANER
stands like a sentry in the middle of
the floor. He turns it on, blazes a
path to his closet. He yanks out a well-
pressed suit, holds it against him,
strikes a sexy, half-lidded pose only a
mother could love--

MORRIS
(awed)
Oh, Lord ...

SoulAlive said:

SoulAlive said:

Am I the only one who wasn't totally thrilled with the 'Ice Cream Castles' album? It's OK,but I think it lacks the fun party vibe of What Time Is It?.

"Jungle Love" is a good song but it's kinda repetitive."Chili Sauce" can rightfully be called filler.The slow jam "If The Kid Can't Make You Come" isn't very good....kinda silly

The album's best song is "My Drawers"

No, it did not flow like The Time & What Time Is It?
I wished like Purple Rain, it told a story that you could look at the movie or just listen to the album and see a journey ...

I love Ice Cream Castles the song all day long, and the bside Tricky

Most of the album feels like B sides

My Summer Time Thang might have been a nice addition.

the Apollonia 6 album has a similar feel, there is no journey, but some good songs on that one.

I'll talk about that in another thread...

Guitarhero said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

(7) INT. MORRIS' BEDROOM -- NIGHT

Morris moves lasciviously into the
BEDROOM wearing a red muscle T-shirt,
orange baggy shorts, and green knee-hi
socks fastened to garters. A yellow
bandanna holds up his hair.

The bedroom is a MESS. A VACUUM CLEANER
stands like a sentry in the middle of
the floor. He turns it on, blazes a
path to his closet. He yanks out a well-
pressed suit, holds it against him,
strikes a sexy, half-lidded pose only a
mother could love--

MORRIS
(awed)
Oh, Lord ...

I see images like this and the Kids bedroom, the Revolutions dressing room and I want to explore...random photos of Prince and the bands? Maxwell tapes laying around with music?

OldFriends4Sale said:

iZsaZsa said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Guitarhero said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

(7) INT. MORRIS' BEDROOM -- NIGHT

Morris moves lasciviously into the
BEDROOM wearing a red muscle T-shirt,
orange baggy shorts, and green knee-hi
socks fastened to garters. A yellow
bandanna holds up his hair.

The bedroom is a MESS. A VACUUM CLEANER
stands like a sentry in the middle of
the floor. He turns it on, blazes a
path to his closet. He yanks out a well-
pressed suit, holds it against him,
strikes a sexy, half-lidded pose only a
mother could love--

MORRIS
(awed)
Oh, Lord ...

I see images like this and the Kids bedroom, the Revolutions dressing room and I want to explore...random photos of Prince and the bands? Maxwell tapes laying around with music?

Yeah.

jdcxc said:

iZsaZsa said:

Yeah.

The Polaroids of women in the mirror is a nice touch.

Ice Cream Castles outtake

My summertime thang #1
originally recorded 26th-27th March 1983 by [Prince] with [Morris Day] & [Jesse Johnson] at Sunset Sound [7] during the [Ice Cream Castle] Album sessions • performed by

[Prince] (all instruments & vocals)

[Morris Day] (lead vocals) &

[Jesse Johnson] (guitar)
written by [Prince]
previously unreleased

My summertime thang
Make me feel alright
I feel good every night, yeah
Treat me like a lover would
And it feel so good (Ooh)

My summertime thang (Summertime)
Dancin' on the floor
Don't stop, let's do some more (Ahhh)
We could have a total ball
I'm happy once and 4 all
My summertime thang

Oooh ahhho
I think about U when I'm sleeping
I think about U when I'm at the mall
I think about the summer I first met U (Ooh)
Most of all I think about the time U met me (Oww!)

My summertime thang (Never lets me down)
Never lets met down
Keeps working all year round (Round and round)
This thang is my one desire (and round and round) (Ooh)
It takes me higher
I said it takes me higher, higher, higher

Ohhhh
Summertime
Ohhhh
Ohhhh
Summertime

I never noticed all the bras and panties in Morris' room while he was vacuuming.

I know it's not the case, but imagine how cool this scenario would be: Morris just got done doing someone's hot wife, and the yellow suit jacket that he's holding up (and later wears to First Ave.) belongs to the husband. That would be pretty ballsy!

iZsaZsa said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I see images like this and the Kids bedroom, the Revolutions dressing room and I want to explore...random photos of Prince and the bands? Maxwell tapes laying around with music?

Yeah.

It would be interesting to know is those photos mean something. Obviously they're real people, but are they Prince's family? The director's wife and kids? Fan mail that just randomly got used?

Se7en said:

iZsaZsa said:

OldFriends4Sale said: Yeah.

It would be interesting to know is those photos mean something. Obviously they're real people, but are they Prince's family? The director's wife and kids? Fan mail that just randomly got used?

I noticed too all the bras laying around lol

I've thought the same, who are in the photos, are they Vanity 6, the Time, Jill Jones, the Revolution etc or just random photos of people they had and used.

I think it is stuff like this(absent from Graffiti Bridge -present in UTCM) that help give Purple Rain depth and background story. I wish the album and what we see of Morris Day & the Time had a more cohesive flow

Mark Cardenas

The Starr ★ Company

My drawers (4:08)
recorded January 1984 by [Prince] with [Morris Day] & [Jesse Johnson] at Sunset Sound [7] • performed by [Prince] (all instruments) with [Morris Day] (lead vocals) & [Jesse Johnson] (guitar) • final mixing January 1984 at Sunset Sound [7]
written by [Prince] (uncredited) • registered to [Prince] (as Jamie Starr)
finally released 1984 on the Album [Ice Cream Castle] • 1984 on the 12"-Single [The bird] • 1990 on the 7"-Single [Chocolate] • 1990 on the 12"-Single / CD-Single [Chocolate]

My drawers (edit) (3:42)
finally released 1984 on the promo 7"-Single [The bird] • 1984 on the 7"-Single [The bird] • 1984 on the promo 12"-Single [The bird]

Baby, when we go out, I got clout, cuz I'm your number one body rocker.
Fellas? - Yeah!
She'll make you scream, your insides shout, but let me tell you what it's all about.

(chorus)
She's mine, all mine. I'm her number one body rocker all of the time.
She's mine, all mine. You better find a brand new bag, cuz these is my drawers.

Baby, I'm so ashamed, cuz I'm all aflame. I mean you've got my body hot.
Fellas? - Yeah!
She's so fast, you'd never last, you couldn't deal with the funk she's got.

(repeat chorus)

Oh baby, this is your number one. Yes, I know you're young.
But we could have so much fun.
Jesse, if you could play guitar, I'll warm up the car.
And me and this girl can see the sun rise.

Whose drawers? - My drawers!

(repeat chorus)

Take it home!

I think The Time had done all they were going to do, musically, once Ice Cream Castles came out. Their growth and appeal was not going to skyrocket the way Prince's did after Purple Rain.

And yes, I know this is all tongue-in-cheek because it was almost all Prince anyway. I just feel that his side project "The Time" had run its course.