ThirdStrike said:

Exactly. My question is why hadn't the DEA flagged it? It's possible he only very recently began this nosedive of over-prescription and thus they didn't have time to catch on, but why the sudden abuse?
[Edited 5/11/16 11:30am]

ThirdStrike said:

True....the doctor certainly could have written different scrips with different dosages or different types of pain meds allowing the scrips to be filled.

headtripparade said:

ThirdStrike said:

Not sure that just because he didn't have aliases and that there weren't multiple doctors prescribing these meds means that they were in fact "legit". Not sure having (4) prescriptions filled ina week's time would classify as "legit". Think the investigation at this point is around the OVER PRESCRIBING of these medicines. And if that's the case, there'll be nothing "legit" about them IMO...

Exactly. My question is why hadn't the DEA flagged it? It's possible he only very recently began this nosedive of over-prescription and thus they didn't have time to catch on, but why the sudden abuse? [Edited 5/11/16 11:30am]

Thinking about that myself. Easy, most logical answer is that the spike in use was too recent to be flagged. Again, seems like the working theory. But what about the possibility of him previously procuring meds illegally? Maybe that supply dried up? I don't know...thinking out loud here.

At the end of the day, none of this is going to matter to any of his true followers. We've always loved the music first and foremost. For me personally, I need to know what exactly happened. That would help give me closure. But I also understand and acknowledge that we may nevere fully, truly know. And I've been preparing myself for that possibility as well. But being a realist, I know it's a very distinct possibility that what's considered worst case scenerio may trun out to be the ultimate truth. As unfortunate as it may be...

I truly am hoping the sudden disappearance of this Dr in question is to give tine for the results to come out and prove no wrong doing. We all know he would be crucified and harassed every day and every minute almost until we hear for sure he didn't contribute to Prince's death. Here to is to hoping!!!

babynoz said:

I think it's odd to have an elevator installed in his house, considering if that's how he felt about it.

ThirdStrike said:

Well said.

Mkilpatrick74 said:

terrig said:

thinking of him in this kind of debilitating pain, and dying from an avoidable combo of meds just as he was actively seeking care for himself just rips my heart out.

no matter what we find out, i still love him. i hope it was quick and painless

I pray to God he felt nothing. I will love him no matter what as well.

Me three.

Rest In Peace, Prince. We will NEVER forget you. Thank you so much.

Mkilpatrick74 said:

The Doctor might not have disappeared. TMZ is stating he disappeared because he's not on the hospital roster anymore. The hospital might have removed his name to avoid publicity, or he could've been suspended, fired or quit.
Just because he's not on the roster, doesn't mean he's disappeared or ran away.
The doctor might just be keeping a low profile, that all. TMZ is usually correct on what they report, but I think they're drawing conclusions because the Doctor isn't on the roster anymore.

keenly said:

mailaccount63 said:

Thank you for saying this. I think there are some people out there that are not aware of this: Heterosexuals get infected with HIV and die of AIDS too.

HIV has never been isolated.

It continues to go on in the background.

Rest In Peace, Prince. We will NEVER forget you. Thank you so very much.

Speaking only for myself I know this is all going to end sadly (the whole truth). He obviously did care about himself, having gone to the Doctor the day before he passed on etc. I prematurely faulted him for not trying and I won't be judging again, no matter the outcome.

I am going back into lurker mode....wait for definate reports and find a way to deal with it.

Thanks to the great people here for being so receptive of new posters. Everyone must find their own way to deal with his death and hope each and every one of you does.

setfire2the3rdbar said:

Many blessings to you! I'm a new poster and am thankful for such a loving reception as well. Please do whatever is needed to allow you to heal in your own way. Hugggsss!!!

Selena4641 said:

Sorry shouldn't have used the word disappeared. That's kinda what I was getting at, that he simply is laying low be of all the assumptions and scrutiny that's coming his way right now. Thanks for putting into words better than I did lol.

Mkilpatrick74 said:

Dr. Sanjay Gupta just said it's not uncommon for a doctor to lay low during a DEA investigation and that it's likely the hospital encouraged him to take a breather. He also went on to say that just because the DEA investigates does not mean that this doctor necessarily did anything wrong and we should refrain from indicting him until the official reports come out. It's quite possible they will find this doctor operated under the law and he will be back to work next week.

Mkilpatrick74 said:

As a retired Mortician, I've worked with the Medical Examiner's office in my city hundreds of times. It doesn't matter that Prince was a celebrity. Everyone is the same on the autopsy table. And a 4 hour autopsy isn't short. I don't know what talking head on tv decided that 4 hours is short. It's not. I'm going to guess that the Medical examiner didn't find a COD (Cause of Death) by visual/physical means, and is waiting on the Tox reports.

Another thing is this DEA flagging business everyone is talking about.
Most Pharmacists will internally flag you before the DEA does. And all Walgreens are linked together. A Walgreens in one city can pull up your profile in another city. I've had to go to a different city to get a medication and Walgreens looked me up by my name and Date of birth. If Prince went to different Walgreens to get his script it's probably because they were out of the meds prescribed, or he just choose another pharmacy location. Most pharmacies make you wait until the 30th day to get your refill, if your Doctor changes your dosage, then it counts as a new script and you can get it. I know about some Pharmacy stuff because my ex is a pharmacist for CVS. when I met him I asked him all about people passing fake scripts and stuff like that.

Mkilpatrick74 said:

You don't need to apologize. TMZ is trying to imply the Doctor has run away or disappeared.

Selena4641 said:

Since Walgreens didn't flag him is it possible the four visits were for different medications that weren't Percocet?

Selena4641 said:[quote]

Mkilpatrick74 said:

As a retired Mortician, I've worked with the Medical Examiner's office in my city hundreds of times. It doesn't matter that Prince was a celebrity. Everyone is the same on the autopsy table. And a 4 hour autopsy isn't short. I don't know what talking head on tv decided that 4 hours is short. It's not. I'm going to guess that the Medical examiner didn't find a COD (Cause of Death) by visual/physical means, and is waiting on the Tox reports.

Thanks for clarifying that, I feel dumb now for falling for that one. Glad to know that the physical exam portion wasn't rushed as I was led to believe.

Beautifulstarr123 said:

babynoz said:

Nah, Prince compared the elevator to the devil. Why would he choose to take his last breath enclosed by an elevator/devil?

I think it's odd to have an elevator installed in his house, considering if that's how he felt about it.

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Prince loved elevators. If you're using 'Let's Go Crazy' as the source, he says "Are we gonna let the de-elevator bring us down?!". I'm aware of the recent interview with someone who said Prince told him that elevators were the Devil... he meant in the song, the "de-elevator" was the devil.

Giovanni777 said:

Beautifulstarr123 said:

babynoz said: I think it's odd to have an elevator installed in his house, considering if that's how he felt about it.

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Prince loved elevators. If you're using 'Let's Go Crazy' as the source, he says "Are we gonna let the de-elevator bring us down?!". I'm aware of the recent interview with someone who said Prince told him that elevators were the Devil... he meant in the song, the "de-elevator" was the devil.

Thanks for clearning that up. That makes more sense

Im wondering if the prescriptions were written out to multiple people in Prince's "inner circle". That would protect his privacy. Also its very easy to get prescription pain meds on the street as long as you have tons of cash which of course Prince did and some one willing to do the "transaction " for him.

Suzee said:

Im wondering if the prescriptions were written out to multiple people in Prince's "inner circle". That would protect his privacy. Also its very easy to get prescription pain meds on the street as long as you have tons of cash which of course Prince did and some one willing to do the "transaction " for him.

I would hope that he wasnt that stupid to get pills like that off the street.

headtripparade said:

I have no idea. For example, I'm on 4 different medications for various reasons. I take a Beta blocker for my heart, Xanax for sleep, a Butrans patch for pain, and a muscle relaxer. Only 2 meds ( the Xanax and the Butrans patch are schedule drugs).
I get my medicines at 4 different times in the month, so I'm at my drugstore 4 different times of the month. ( if the drugstore is out of my medicine, I have to go to a different location)
Let's just pretend that Prince had one doctor who had him on Percocet 7.5 for a while. If the Doctor changes it to Percocet 10 before the 7.5 milligrams script was out, the Pharmacist should fill it. it also depends on the Pharmacist, some like to think that they are the doctor, and other Pharmacists couldn't care less as long as they are not violating the law. For all we know, Prince could've had one script for Percocet, and the other times he went to the pharmacy were for non schedule drugs, like a antibiotic or blood pressure medicine.

Selena4641 said:

Thank you.

I really detest speculating before the official ruling but I want closure so it's hard to wait. However the reports from today really have me backtracking my theory and going back to my original gut feeling--that he was ill.

Selena4641 said:

gosh i hadn't even considered blood pressure....many many people over 50 are on pressure meds, and if other stuff was added in for pain, etc., he certainly could have had a bad combo stop his heart.

"do i have a friend tonight?" --prince at his last concert in atlanta

cardinal said:

Paul Stanley is a class act . I have a friend who lives in Vegas and edits a rock magazine so she meets a lot of musicians . She holds him in very high regard, and that saying a lot, cause she don't like nobody !

cardinal said:

Oh wow ! Just remembered that detoxing can cause a dangerous spike in ones blood pressure, even if you are already on blood pressure meds they will sometimes up them temporarily. He may not have been on any at all .
[Edited 5/11/16 17:17pm]

Today I kept wondering about all these leaks from the investigation. Who is feeding the rumor mill and why? Why is such a big deal being made out of Prince's death due to a possible overdose when over 20,000 people die each year from opiate drug related deaths? Who wants this investigation? And why?

For all of us know that Prince never professed to be a saint but tried hard all his life to live pure. And since childhood apparently (according to his childhood friends). It was quite clear that he was no Steve Tyler -in and out of rehab, oozy Osborne or even Michael Jackson or Whitney Houston. So why the drama?

Somebody apparently wants the drama and may be trying to build up a court case. Why? Because they have no other source of income since there was no will and the possibility of heirs popping up is apparently quite real.

Everyone now is scrambling to cover their butts and so more units/DEA are being called to spread responsibility. I don't really think anyone is at fault per se...I think it was a negative reaction to his meds which may not have been anticipated due to Prince's own confidence that he was fine. Perhaps his pain was really aggravating him and the doctor thought he was exaggerating the pain which is why he called the addiction specialist. Doctors here in MN are really quick to consider you addicted if you are black and in pain -and there are published studies to prove I'm not exaggerating.

Bottom line though is this investigation is not proceeding in a linear fashion per se but is rather haphazard -2 plus weeks after death the home is raided? Something is not right.

jesme1999 said:

Wouldn't it be something if the report came back saying yes It showed some percocet but not dangerously high levels and it turns out to be something like maybe w blood clot or something? I'll be the first to laugh my tooshy off and be like DANG YOU PRINCE LOL, MESS W THE HATERS not us that love you. As he sits he sits in Heaven shaking his head at these vultures giving then that famous side eye. LMBO
[Edited 5/11/16 18:51pm]
[Edited 5/11/16 18:52pm]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PRINCE_DEATH_THE_LATEST?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

The Associated Press is reporting the criminal investigation includes Prince's computer hard drives to examine whether doctors, if any, prescribed online without first having given a physical, and/or to determine whether any doctors, if any, overprescribed.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PRINCE_DEATH_MINNESOTA_DOCTOR?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

The Associated Press has recapped the questions surrounding Prince's choice of doctors.