Damn Here come the tears again.

It wasnt quick at all In pain and alone...such a terrible way to go for him. For Prince not to stay at the hospital and get help is now a big eye opener for me. Was he that ashamed and thought we wouldnt understand? We still wouldve been his fans

IstenSzek said:

antonb said:

It's very maddning knowing his death most likely , could have been avoided. Where was all these close friends? Even if someone is as stubborn as prince, there is always away around it. You think up an excuse to call or still be with them.

why would you even need an excuse? if he really was in such bad shape and considering what
happened just 6 days prior, i would have been like 'i'm staying, no matter what you say, there
will be help tomorrow, so i'm staying put tonight. if you need me i'll be in the lobby with a pot

of coffee and a crossword, i won't be in your hair, but i'll be here.'

if he'd said 'i'll fire you' or i'll kick you out or whatever i'd have said 'call the cops, i'll explain to
them why i'm here'. he might have been pissed off and very angry and fired me, but at least he
would not have been alone.

anyway, that's easy for me to say, i wasn't there and didn't work for him. his crew are people
just like us and no one willingly left prince alone to die, i'm sure. so we'll have to wait for the
rest of the story. but it's extremely sad to think help was on the way and he was alone those
last few crucial hours.

I agree, on so many levels.

Suboxone is very effective. I have given it to many of my detox patients and in just a few hours you see a great change from major detox symptoms to being in less pain, being able to eat and VS being stable. Im so saddened that this Dr. didnt wipe his schedule clean the previous day to see Prince. One day was the difference in him being alive or not

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

rightbluecheek said:

I wonder who these "representative" were. And at what time did they call? In the evening, when? Still missing information. I have a bad feeling about this...

More than likely this was an intervention. The reason I say that is because if Prince himself wanted the help he could have flown to California and gotten the help. But no, he left the hospital after only a couple of hours, continued to work, continued to throw parties, continued to ride his bicycle around Chanhassen. This seems more like someone close to Prince trying to get help for him, having the doctor (or initially his son) fly to Minnesota. This article really explains all of the questions I had, especially how could the person calling 911 not know where they were. Well, because they had never been there before and had JUST gotten into town!

This may be the case and may be why he was left alone, because he may always have been left alone and they didnt want to raise suspicion from him... and i said elsewhere here it explains the guy on the 911 call not knowing the address.

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nursev said:

Suboxone is very effective. I have given it to many of my detox patients and in just a few hours you see a great change from major detox symptoms to being in less pain, being able to eat and VS being stable. Im so saddened that this Dr. didnt wipe his schedule clean the previous day to see Prince. One day was the difference in him being alive or not

What's he supposed to do, leave other patients to die?

TheEnglishGent said:

nursev said:

Suboxone is very effective. I have given it to many of my detox patients and in just a few hours you see a great change from major detox symptoms to being in less pain, being able to eat and VS being stable. Im so saddened that this Dr. didnt wipe his schedule clean the previous day to see Prince. One day was the difference in him being alive or not

What's he supposed to do, leave other patients to die?

You know I did not say that....we do prioritize patients in healthcare and unless he had somebody just coding at the time, bleeding or having a heart attack then Im pretty sure he knew the grave circumstance that Prince was facing.

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

terrig said:

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

More than likely this was an intervention. The reason I say that is because if Prince himself wanted the help he could have flown to California and gotten the help. But no, he left the hospital after only a couple of hours, continued to work, continued to throw parties, continued to ride his bicycle around Chanhassen. This seems more like someone close to Prince trying to get help for him, having the doctor (or initially his son) fly to Minnesota. This article really explains all of the questions I had, especially how could the person calling 911 not know where they were. Well, because they had never been there before and had JUST gotten into town!

This may be the case and may be why he was left alone... and i said elsewhere here it explains the guy on the 911 call not knowing the address.

It's very likely that the closest circle of friends were told to go home - to leave him alone.
This is a private man, and one who basically left the hospital a week prior AMA...against medical advice.

Thinking about his "typical day" - constant recording, staying up at all hours, having complete control of his diet and schedule - isn't it possible that the thought of having to travel to a facility out of state, away from all that he loves, without the recording abilities would create anxiety for him?

Either he had NO idea that help had been called (which I tend to believe), or he DID know, and was panicked about the prospect.

However - are there not ANY specialists of this nature any closer than California? Seriously, the actual doctor couldn't come, but sent his SON - on a RED EYE across the country?? So, there was urgency, enough that the son left ASAP - so that SOMEONE would be there? Why wasn't someone in Chicago, Dallas, New York contacted as a back up??

we're just never going to get satisfying answers. they will be like what we have learned here this morning. just frustration, anger, and sorrow. its obviously going to hurt for some time.

I dont think Prince knew this doctor was coming in. Some associate DID in fact do the right thing. But Prince might have refused to see him. We will probably never know.

So where were all these so called religious brothers he had Im sure they knew he had a problem, but they turned a blind eye

just read in RS that exactly 20 years ago to the date of his death, Mayte found hin umcounscious on studio floor and once again left hispital against medical advice

Milty2 said:

Laydown said:

Still cant deal

Still can't deal.

You are not alone.....

He wasn't out of the woods and should not have been having parties if the reports are true because Narcan/naxalone has its own risks.



http://abcnews.go.com/Ent...e-38868168

Aks has revived many patients with a naloxone shot. "Too many to count," he said. It's an almost daily occurrence in the Chicago ER.

"They will come into the emergency department not breathing, with small pupils. They're out of it. You can't wake them up. If you give an injection of naloxone, they start breathing better. They will sit up," Aks said. "If you give them too much they can go into withdrawal and feel sick. They'll feel nauseated, start having stomach cramps and pain throughout their muscles."

After naloxone, it's a good idea to keep a patient under observation for about four hours, Aks said. When naloxone wears off, a patient can stop breathing again from opiates still flooding their system.

"If you need multiple doses of naloxone (to revive a patient) they should stay overnight," he said.

Aks also said more hospitals are educating overdose patients about naloxone and sending them home with kits, so friends and family can be ready with the life-saving antidote.

nursev said:

So where were all these so called religious brothers he had Im sure they knew he had a problem, but they turned a blind eye

Yeah, all of these "religious brothers" that brainwashed Prince into believing that he couldn't have hip replacement surgery - which could of greatly reduced his physical pain.

Rest In Peace, Prince. We will NEVER forget you.

mailaccount63 said:

nursev said:

So where were all these so called religious brothers he had Im sure they knew he had a problem, but they turned a blind eye

Yeah, all of these "religious brothers" that brainwashed Prince into believing that he couldn't have hip replacement surgery - which could of greatly reduced his physical pain.

Rest In Peace, Prince. We will NEVER forget you.

Come on guys, we don't know about that.

I am certainly not a fan of religious associations, but we can't blame everyone.

All this anger is not doing you any good.

So looking at this Prince left the hospital AMA, had probably been taking pain killers for years, he said he had the flu which was more likely withdrawal symtoms, goes ahead with the Atlanta shows and says what seemed like some parting things to his fans, He was given Narcan, then he still went ahead with the Paisley Park function. He told his employees to leave him alone when he knew his circumstances were grave He knew his time was short

the idea of there being an intervention the next morning is the only thing that makes sense in Prince being left alone. early reports said he had an appt with a 'holistic dr'....and maybe thats what they told him, too.

and it gives new meaning to the "wait a few days before wasting your prayers on me"..damnnnnnnnn

lwr001 said:

and it gives new meaning to the "wait a few days before wasting your prayers on me"..damnnnnnnnn

IstenSzek said:

I agree with so many of you that this brings back all of the emotions...so sad.

You know, I was at Paisley that Saturday night and I found it a little odd. Prince took about a minute or so to thank "Dr Kirk"...went on to say how great of a man and a friend and human Kirk was. Not that I doubt that at all, Kirk was (or seemed to be) Prince's best friend for many, many years. But it just seemed a little out of character for Prince to be so deeply thankful, publicly. Makes me wonder if Kirk was the one that forced the emergency plane landing in Moline, and Pince realized that he literally saved his life then.

One more dam day....heck, 12 more hours....and we would likely still have him here.

RiotPaisley said:

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'm not believing an ounce of any of these reports until the full autopsy report is revealed.

repeating myself:

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it gives me a small amount of comfort to believe, most likely, he was medicated up and felt pretty good at the time. since not one single thing can be done to change the past, i choose to believe he felt amazing.

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what a dam shame.... so many ways to be there for him, without making it about his condition.... I am furious. Especially after the overdose on the plane. If there was an intervention in the works, this makes no sense he was alone. Like wth REALLY happened... None of this makes sense.

norsknurse said:

Suzanne said:

Why was he alone? How do you leave him alone?

http://www.startribune.co...378051471/

I would have slept on the kitchen floor until the specialist arrived. I was angry before, but now I am livid.

terrig said:

the idea of there being an intervention the next morning is the only thing that makes sense in Prince being left alone. early reports said he had an appt with a 'holistic dr'....and maybe thats what they told him, too.

I think you may be right. Those poor PP staffers probably went home that night thinking that everything was gonna be okay in the morning.

missfee said:

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'm not believing an ounce of any of these reports until the full autopsy report is revealed.

I agree.