sonshine said:

I'm devastated and bawling my eyes out! How could this have happened??!! How could they have left him alone like that??!! It's not right. He was so close to getting help. He deserved a chance to get better. We would have all been cheering for him to get better. We would have still adored him. This just hurts too much. Help was only moments away. The pain is as bad again right now perhaps even worse than that sickening moment I heard the news on thurs apr 21. He didn't deserve this ending. 😢

babynoz said:

tiggerlane said:

morningsong said:

babynoz said:

Exactly. I have had to do this with my hard head husband when he had an infection and my son when his asthma got out of control. They tried to make me leave them alone and I went to war with them, called the police, fire rescue, all the relatives, you name it.

That's what you have to do no matter how mad they get.

I'm scared to find out who actually drove him. These people that supposedly moved there because of him couldn't have been called? His pastor or whatever couldn't have been called?

I tell ya, it is gut wrenching to think that he was that close to help, if only......


Only a few days earlier the situation was so crucial that the plane had to descend at almost 5000ft a damn minute to save him. He put up a good front and probaby got pretty testy with folks but still.

babynoz said:

sonshine said:

This is the worst possible outcome. I don't want to know anymore. I've learned enough already. The fact that the guy sent urgently across the country in the middle of the night is the one who has to alert prince's people to a problem is incomprehensible to me. They were concerned enough to summon these professionals like it was an emergency they should have been there awaiting his arrival. Instead they went home??!! Wtf he should be in calif getting better right now that's the bottom line. I don't care anymore about any of the other b.s. about memorials or vaults or wills. We shouldn't even be here. This shouldn't be happening. It's like a really bad movie that never gets over.

Exactly. I am devastated all over again.

I was holding back until we had some credible details and now I'm ready to ask some tough questions.

morningsong said:

babynoz said:

I tell ya, it is gut wrenching to think that he was that close to help, if only......


Only a few days earlier the situation was so crucial that the plane had to descend at almost 5000ft a damn minute to save him. He put up a good front and probaby got pretty testy with folks but still.

[bTesty? pfft I got another word for it.[/b] Ain't saying it here. Time for me to go and curse the heavens out.

Girl, you know.

Exerpt from....

http://prescription-drug....cet-to-od/



"The vast majority of drug poisoning deaths are unintentional. There are a lot of different reasons why someone might accidentally overdose on Percocet. First, the oxycodone in Percocet creates a physical tolerance over time. After taking Percocet for an extended period, you may no longer be getting adequate pain relief from your prescribed dose and need more to achieve analgesic effect. But it only takes one or two extra pills to overdose on the acetaminophen in Percocet, even thought the amount of oxycodone is likely to still be safe. So, increasing the frequency or amount of medication each day is an easy way to unintentionally overdose on Percocet."

Oxycodone overdose – It’s also possible to overdose on the oxycodone found in Percocet, but this requires taking enough Percocet that you’d be having issues with the acetaminophen already. It takes about 40 mg of oxycodone to overdose if you haven’t taken the medication before. At the lowest strength of Percocet, you’d need over 16 pills for the oxycodone to be dangerous, but you’d be well over the daily limit for acetaminophen poisoning and would need immediate medical attention.

I don't think we're allowed to reprint the whole article but it begs the question why didnt somebody insist on staying with him?

[Edited 5/3/16 23:22pm]

SteelPulse1 said:

Good job inner circle, way to look out, they cared more about status then the man even when the man obviously wasnt thinking straight.. Sure lets leave him alone knowing hes a train wreck.

Agreed. And fear of being fired is no excuse either, because you're out of a job anyway when he dies.

babynoz said:

babynoz said:

morningsong said:

babynoz said:

Exerpt from....

http://prescription-drug....cet-to-od/



"The vast majority of drug poisoning deaths are unintentional. There are a lot of different reasons why someone might accidentally overdose on Percocet. First, the oxycodone in Percocet creates a physical tolerance over time. After taking Percocet for an extended period, you may no longer be getting adequate pain relief from your prescribed dose and need more to achieve analgesic effect. But it only takes one or two extra pills to overdose on the acetaminophen in Percocet, even thought the amount of oxycodone is likely to still be safe. So, increasing the frequency or amount of medication each day is an easy way to unintentionally overdose on Percocet."

I don't think we're allowed to reprint the whole article but it begs the question why didnt somebody insist on staying with him?

Errrrrrrrr Sounds like they called after the perscription pick up. Dropped him off called the rehab doctor. Made arrangements for an intervention. A m,,,,,,,,,,,, day too late.

They may have called before that. It would explain the appointment he reportedly kept the day before.

My head is spinning.....

"After he was first contacted by Prince’s representatives, Howard Kornfeld requested that a Twin Cities physician check on Prince and stabilize him, sources said."

morningsong said:

jtfolden said:

Well, the reason he was alone seems obvious to me... Prince wanted it that way. It's incredibly frustrating and infuriating and beyond tragic but I think it really is as simple as that. He was a grown man used to having complete control over his life. No one was going to be babysitting him unless he wanted them to do so...

Sorry no disrespect. But I want to hear it from those that were involved. Because I'm sorry I'd of gotten the roledex, and called somebody in his circle. Fire me. But somebody's staying. There's been one scare in less than a week and now somebody drove him to pick up more.

Hey, I'd like to hear all the details and excuses myself but whether we get it or not is another matter.

However, we've heard for years and years that Prince has surrounded himself with "yes men" more and more... People who stand up to him get sent packing, etc... We, also, don't know Prince's frame of mind on the issue. He might have been in denial and his reps were acting on his best interests in spite of him - just way too damn late.

I am hurt that the family knew that an addiction specialist found him in the elevator and they never mentioned it. It's their perrogative, but everyone was mourning and wondering what happened. They pretended to know as much as we did.

babynoz said:

jtfolden said:

We, also, don't know Prince's frame of mind on the issue. He might have been in denial and his reps were acting on his best interests in spite of him - just way too damn late.

Well if he was fighting drug addiction, we know for sure that he wasn't in a healthy, rational frame of mind. Those pills are chemicals that affect your brain chemistry.

EnDoRpHn said:

There's no way a physician or someone with medical training made that call. The first line of the transcript reads "We have someone who is unconscious." Seriously? That is someone in shock or denial, or just clueless. No way it was someone with medical training -- they'd be busy assessing ABCs (basic life support) and, unless it was apparent the person had been dead for awhile, would have been administering CPR while someone else made the phone call.

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Good point there.

morningsong said:

babynoz said:

They may have called before that. It would explain the appointment he reportedly kept the day before.

My head is spinning.....

"After he was first contacted by Prince’s representatives, Howard Kornfeld requested that a Twin Cities physician check on Prince and stabilize him, sources said."

I was going by what they said the night of the 20th. But if they could get him to go see a doctor to stabilize him, whatever that means, earlier that day and him not know what's going on. Huh? Though I'm sure he was quite the adorable human being that day, nobody could play him to get a sleepover?

I was under the impression that they were doing it with his knowledge but maybe not.

Prince must have been in so much pain for so long. It's so sad.

Eveb if he reduced his intake of painkillers, he still would've been living with chronic pain.

FunkiestOne said:

jtfolden said:

Well if he was fighting drug addiction, we know for sure that he wasn't in a healthy, rational frame of mind. Those pills are chemicals that affect your brain chemistry.

Yes, I'm very much aware. My BF works in a rehab clinic and pretty much called this correctly last week, sadly. Either way though, we don't know yet if he was willingly going along with treatment or his reps/the dr's would have had to convince him.

EnDoRpHn said:

There's no way a physician or someone with medical training made that call. The first line of the transcript reads "We have someone who is unconscious." Seriously? That is someone in shock or denial, or just clueless. No way it was someone with medical training -- they'd be busy assessing ABCs (basic life support) and, unless it was apparent the person had been dead for awhile, would have been administering CPR while someone else made the phone call.

It says that Andrew Kornfield is Dr. Kornfield's son. It doesn't say that his son is a doctor.

jtfolden said:

He never should have left the hospital in Moline in the first place.