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Reply #60 posted 06/03/16 9:20am

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Arunas said:

If he was alone, who reported then?

Apparently it was two of his staffers who, on being unable to reach him on the phone, went to PP to check. The addiction doctor's son was there as well, and made the 911 call.

"Everything that's in your heart, come what may
Even though his might get broken" RIP Prince
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Reply #61 posted 06/03/16 9:22am

EloiseEloise

Exetergirl said:



214 said:


Perhaps he needed to just left alone.



Prince was an introvert and indeed a brilliant advert for the power of introversion in a country/world which rates extroversion. As 214 said he lived most of his life alone and as he was a really private person it wouldn't be surprising if he wanted to die alone.



I've been with both parents when they died and it is indeed a special moment. But when my sister and I sat (and even slept) by my Dad for days waiting for him to die, the medical staff told us that some people prefer to be alone when they die. Yes, it can actually be their own choice. It is not unusual for some to wait until all their visitors have gone and then slip off themselves.



[Edited 4/22/16 22:15pm]



I have read of this too. I think the idea was that people want to be able to release themselves without feeling burdened to stay.

Another potential clue that he did have some terminal illness and did not see the point in prolonging suffering or dragging any death he might face out.
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Reply #62 posted 06/03/16 9:29am

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I agree with you 100% EloiseEloise. Didn't he once say "LIFE AIN'T ALWAYS THE WAY." ?

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Reply #63 posted 06/03/16 9:41am

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Sorry to disturb you, good people of earth, who find it sad that Prince has died "alone". For one thing, we all die alone, no matter how many people we are having at our bedsides. They're not joining us on our final passages. And also, what are people supposed to do when they're being with someone dying? I've learned that it is supposed to be hard on those dying, when they're being surrounded by people crying, sobbing and losing their minds. Let's face it, the ones leaving, know that there'll be no tomorrow for them. Why not make it easier for them to leave by assuring them that they are free to go whenever they feel like doing so? It can be easier for the dying to leave, when they're being assured that the ones being close to them will be okay. Know what I mean? Most people at PP were on Prince's payroll. Do any of you honstely think that they would've let him go? Maybe it was his wish to die alone. Maybe he didn't know he was dying, maybe he did. Maybe he wasn't even conscious anymore when he passed away.

I never got to know Prince personally, but I doubt that he would have appreciated people being around him in that very moment. I doubt that he would've even being open about being sick or addicted. The Gestalt he presented to us was never going to get older, nor was it ever going to die. And it didn't. That persona is still very much alive in his music. And that's what he wished to share with us.

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Reply #64 posted 06/03/16 9:52am

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In Jan at the 1st Piano & Microhphone show at Pialsey, he commented how nice it was to share with us because at times he often plays alone. SO happy we got to witness this show one last time'

You're so lucky to have been there -- smile God Rest his Soul!

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Reply #65 posted 06/03/16 10:04am

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FUNKYNESS said:




Marco81 said:


Onthe1jb said: Sadly, he was all alone in Paisley Park, according to the press conference. He could have died anytime between 8pm and 9am. Incredibly sad...all alone.

Some people want to make it incredibly sad. Prince was hardly alone on the world. An elevator ride alone doesn't make him alone. He probably needed to be alone in the studio. He had as many people around him as he wanted. His independence is one of the traits that made him great. What would have been sad is waatching him laid up in a hospital with tubes in him clinging to life or watching him deteriorate and whither away slowly from some lingering sickness - unable to be Prince. At least he didnt have to suffer through something. THat would have been the worst for everyone.


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Disagree, Either way is bad.



Maybe. But perhaps still the lesser of two evils.

Want to refer to a quote in an interview with Prince where he was said to orefer being awake to being asleep as his reality was far better than any dream he ever had.

That should put to rest any idea that he suffered a lot dying alone or whatever.
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Reply #66 posted 06/03/16 10:08am

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nonesuch said:

Sorry to disturb you, good people of earth, who find it sad that Prince has died "alone". For one thing, we all die alone, no matter how many people we are having at our bedsides. They're not joining us on our final passages. And also, what are people supposed to do when they're being with someone dying? I've learned that it is supposed to be hard on those dying, when they're being surrounded by people crying, sobbing and losing their minds. Let's face it, the ones leaving, know that there'll be no tomorrow for them. Why not make it easier for them to leave by assuring them that they are free to go whenever they feel like doing so? It can be easier for the dying to leave, when they're being assured that the ones being close to them will be okay. Know what I mean? Most people at PP were on Prince's payroll. Do any of you honstely think that they would've let him go? Maybe it was his wish to die alone. Maybe he didn't know he was dying, maybe he did. Maybe he wasn't even conscious anymore when he passed away.


I never got to know Prince personally, but I doubt that he would have appreciated people being around him in that very moment. I doubt that he would've even being open about being sick or addicted. The Gestalt he presented to us was never going to get older, nor was it ever going to die. And it didn't. That persona is still very much alive in his music. And that's what he wished to share with us.



Wow...
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Reply #67 posted 06/03/16 10:15am

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EloiseEloise said:

nonesuch said:

Sorry to disturb you, good people of earth, who find it sad that Prince has died "alone". For one thing, we all die alone, no matter how many people we are having at our bedsides. They're not joining us on our final passages. And also, what are people supposed to do when they're being with someone dying? I've learned that it is supposed to be hard on those dying, when they're being surrounded by people crying, sobbing and losing their minds. Let's face it, the ones leaving, know that there'll be no tomorrow for them. Why not make it easier for them to leave by assuring them that they are free to go whenever they feel like doing so? It can be easier for the dying to leave, when they're being assured that the ones being close to them will be okay. Know what I mean? Most people at PP were on Prince's payroll. Do any of you honstely think that they would've let him go? Maybe it was his wish to die alone. Maybe he didn't know he was dying, maybe he did. Maybe he wasn't even conscious anymore when he passed away.


I never got to know Prince personally, but I doubt that he would have appreciated people being around him in that very moment. I doubt that he would've even being open about being sick or addicted. The Gestalt he presented to us was never going to get older, nor was it ever going to die. And it didn't. That persona is still very much alive in his music. And that's what he wished to share with us.



Wow...



P.S. Weren't a lot of 911 calls made from Paisley Park towards the end? Maybe he did know that death was imminent for him and felt that being alone would make the transition simpler. Like how a pet dog or cat will go off on its own and hide so as to die in peace. Maybe on an unconscious level he was readying himself to accept death and this was why no body guard was around.
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Reply #68 posted 06/03/16 10:27am

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Also it is quite possible to enjoy being with others as he often expressed, and yet also enjoy being on your own and even needing it. Especially when sick or indeed dying.

I love being with others and will be quite the party animal, but they won't see me tired if I can help it and that means I have to have alone time for that.

Spent time night and day with a group last week and I was exhausted, but they said outright that I seemed to never slow down and never appeared tired. I was actually dizzy with fatigue.

It is not on purpose, and I can't even imagine what it would be like to have the eyes of the world on me like Prince had. I noticed he said once how he had been walking around town in old clothes because he was helping a friend move. Two girls passed him. One said "That's Prince!" The other replied with disdain "THAT's not Prince.."

He said he never stepped outside without dressing the part ever again.

So being with others can be wonderful and yet a burden at the same time if you can't be alone too. I think we need to see him in that light, not as a poor lonely soul. He probably was at times. Most of us are.
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Reply #69 posted 06/03/16 10:35am

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Exetergirl said:

214 said:

Perhaps he needed to just left alone.

Prince was an introvert and indeed a brilliant advert for the power of introversion in a country/world which rates extroversion. As 214 said he lived most of his life alone and as he was a really private person it wouldn't be surprising if he wanted to die alone.

I've been with both parents when they died and it is indeed a special moment. But when my sister and I sat (and even slept) by my Dad for days waiting for him to die, the medical staff told us that some people prefer to be alone when they die. Yes, it can actually be their own choice. It is not unusual for some to wait until all their visitors have gone and then slip off themselves.

[Edited 4/22/16 22:15pm]

Thank you for sharing. Were you with your daddy when he finally left?

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Reply #70 posted 06/03/16 10:57am

Tami3121

The hospital that let him leave when he OD'd on the plane is exactly when he could have gotten help. Help came to late when the intervention specialist's son showed up. I'd really like to know if that was even legal to let him leave? Can't believe no one was with him after such a serious incident. rolleyes

[Edited 6/3/16 11:03am]

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Reply #71 posted 06/03/16 11:22am

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FUNKYNESS said:

Marco81 said:

Onthe1jb said: Sadly, he was all alone in Paisley Park, according to the press conference. He could have died anytime between 8pm and 9am. Incredibly sad...all alone.

Some people want to make it incredibly sad. Prince was hardly alone on the world. An elevator ride alone doesn't make him alone. He probably needed to be alone in the studio. He had as many people around him as he wanted. His independence is one of the traits that made him great. What would have been sad is waatching him laid up in a hospital with tubes in him clinging to life or watching him deteriorate and whither away slowly from some lingering sickness - unable to be Prince. At least he didnt have to suffer through something. THat would have been the worst for everyone.

[Edited 4/22/16 17:05pm]

I have to agree. Would have been awful otherwise.

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Reply #72 posted 06/03/16 11:59am

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