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Reply #30 posted 04/24/16 2:22pm

mikeyaddict

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EddieC said:

Exetergirl said:

I've been with both parents when they died and it is indeed a special moment. But when my sister and I sat (and even slept) by my Dad for days waiting for him to die, the medical staff told us that some people prefer to be alone when they die. Yes, it can actually be their own choice. It is not unusual for some to wait until all their visitors have gone and then slip off themselves.

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This may or may not have anything to do with Prince's death, but it certainly is true that some people choose to die alone, even when family and friends are present. I worked for years in geriatric care, and many people near death seemed to choose their moments--waiting for an arrival of a particular person, or, contrastingly, waiting for a collection of people to leave. In my own family experience, it's happened at least twice. I didn't find this out until after the fact, but my mother was dying of cancer and my brother, my sister, my aunt, and I were all with her. When my mom was alone with my aunt during the course of the day, she told my aunt to go home and that she didn't want us there when she died. My aunt didn't tell us, but she went home for the night. Mom sent me home (a 6 hour drive away) telling me that it would be okay but I needed to be with my family, and then she waited until my brother was sleeping on a cot they pulled in and my sister had left the room to get a drink. She was out of the room for just a couple of minutes, and Mom was dead when she got back.

Then, when my wife's grandfather was dying (just a few weeks later), the whole family was staying at his bedside. My wife and I (she also worked in geriatrics) suspected that he was holding on until he was alone, so we got my father-in-law away from the group and told him what we thought was happening. A little later (after we left to drive back home), he convinced the others to go get some food while my wife's grandfather was sleeping--they hadn't even gotten out of the hospital parking lot before they got the call from the nurse that he'd died.

I don't think this applies to Prince. But it's a real phenomenon.

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Thank you for sharing. What a beautiful and touching account. Love you everyone!

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Reply #31 posted 04/24/16 2:29pm

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dodger said:

JellyJam said:

I find this heartbreaking. I'm often accused of being a loner, but no-one should die alone.

Totally. Of course it's not unusual for someone to have alone time or live alone but the thought of someone dying alone is terrible, speaking from experience. . I am surprised though he was alone at PP over-night with it being such a big complex. You can imagine him sending staff or friends home insisting he was OK but you'd expect him to have at least a security guard there.

That's what I find quite disturbing. The idea he was completely alone in such a vast place - like you say you'd expect at least some security guy there. But particularly when he was seemingly recuperating from a health scare, which by all accounts was pretty damn serious.

Where were his friends and family? I'm pretty sure we'd have got a bunch of people from the org to sit by him, and make him pancakes, until he was better.

[Edited 4/24/16 14:30pm]

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Reply #32 posted 04/24/16 2:42pm

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dodger said:

JellyJam said:

I find this heartbreaking. I'm often accused of being a loner, but no-one should die alone.

Totally. Of course it's not unusual for someone to have alone time or live alone but the thought of someone dying alone is terrible, speaking from experience. . I am surprised though he was alone at PP over-night with it being such a big complex. You can imagine him sending staff or friends home insisting he was OK but you'd expect him to have at least a security guard there.

Especially when he wrote songs like "There are others here with us" and "Undertaker"! eek

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Reply #33 posted 04/24/16 2:55pm

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JellyJam said:

dodger said:

JellyJam said: Totally. Of course it's not unusual for someone to have alone time or live alone but the thought of someone dying alone is terrible, speaking from experience. . I am surprised though he was alone at PP over-night with it being such a big complex. You can imagine him sending staff or friends home insisting he was OK but you'd expect him to have at least a security guard there.

That's what I find quite disturbing. The idea he was completely alone in such a vast place - like you say you'd expect at least some security guy there. But particularly when he was seemingly recuperating from a health scare, which by all accounts was pretty damn serious.

Where were his friends and family? I'm pretty sure we'd have got a bunch of people from the org to sit by him, and make him pancakes, until he was better.

[Edited 4/24/16 14:30pm]

We just have to think or just stay positive...It wasn't vast for him. This was his 'home' and he was very comfortable with the living area and the studio. Maybe this is how it always was...He was there alone most times.

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Reply #34 posted 04/24/16 2:58pm

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vandeluca said:

JellyJam said:

That's what I find quite disturbing. The idea he was completely alone in such a vast place - like you say you'd expect at least some security guy there. But particularly when he was seemingly recuperating from a health scare, which by all accounts was pretty damn serious.

Where were his friends and family? I'm pretty sure we'd have got a bunch of people from the org to sit by him, and make him pancakes, until he was better.

[Edited 4/24/16 14:30pm]

We just have to think or just stay positive...It wasn't vast for him. This was his 'home' and he was very comfortable with the living area and the studio. Maybe this is how it always was...He was there alone most times.

i really hope so. I just find any and all accounts (sketchy I know) of him, alone, dying in an elevator shaft so profoundly sad and shocking. More than anything, I'm not sure that thought will ever leave me.

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Reply #35 posted 04/24/16 3:18pm

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I'm sure there's security guard at the gate if there are visitors coming. Plus, Prince usually has a personal security guard (forgot the wrestler's name back in the '80s and read that Prince was paranoid about people breaking in). Never been there myself so I wouldn't know. Perhaps some here who have been there would know.
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Reply #36 posted 04/24/16 3:20pm

destinyc1

The word (alone) in itself is sad.I think we're all upset at the thought of him laying on the floor unable to get up or call for help.The most beloved person in the world that surrounded himself with people and was there for everyone.Was alone i mean darn was he crying out for help?Its the not knowing that has us all sad as well.The good thing is-is that they said he had video's everywhere so im sure they went all through those.And if it was anything other then what they said we would of known by now.And with him being alone that means if he was taking a combo of meds or what have you no yes men had time to throw it away.And they released the body very quick.They prob have his phone computer and as i said the video's.The girl that videotaped him riding his bike said he was waiting for his gfriend she went shopping.Its very quiet on that front.They said the cops we're questioning body guards.

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Reply #37 posted 04/25/16 11:01am

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"Waiting on his girlfriend, who went shopping"

And Who was she???

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Reply #38 posted 04/25/16 11:02am

Superfan1984

THAT's what I want to know!!!!
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Reply #39 posted 04/25/16 11:06am

nursev

Astasheiks said:

"Waiting on his girlfriend, who went shopping"

And Who was she???

best for her to stay anonymous maybe for awhile and it hurts too bad knowing he was left alone.

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Reply #40 posted 04/25/16 11:07am

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FUNKYNESS said:

Marco81 said:

Onthe1jb said: Sadly, he was all alone in Paisley Park, according to the press conference. He could have died anytime between 8pm and 9am. Incredibly sad...all alone.

Some people want to make it incredibly sad. Prince was hardly alone on the world. An elevator ride alone doesn't make him alone. He probably needed to be alone in the studio. He had as many people around him as he wanted. His independence is one of the traits that made him great. What would have been sad is waatching him laid up in a hospital with tubes in him clinging to life or watching him deteriorate and whither away slowly from some lingering sickness - unable to be Prince. At least he didnt have to suffer through something. THat would have been the worst for everyone.

[Edited 4/22/16 17:05pm]

Well thats true. You make some good points.

I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #41 posted 04/25/16 11:12am

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Damaras. The doves. God.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #42 posted 04/25/16 11:12am

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CJ peeking in his window.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #43 posted 04/25/16 11:19am

nursev

2freaky4church1 said:

CJ peeking in his window.

Where is the heffa at? All the years she spent talking bad about him disbelief How bad is that to have your low down dirty ways immoratalized on song...God.

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Reply #44 posted 04/25/16 11:41am

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I don't find it odd at all that he was alone. Even being Paisley Park, there's a fence and a gate and security cameras. That, and it's located in a nice suburb with nice neighbors. I don't think anything of being home alone, not sure why it would be different for him.

I do find it just plain awful to think that if someone had been there maybe he would have gotten help in time, but I would guess no one understood the gravity of his health issues.

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Reply #45 posted 04/25/16 11:50am

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nursev said:

Astasheiks said:

"Waiting on his girlfriend, who went shopping"

And Who was she???

best for her to stay anonymous maybe for awhile and it hurts too bad knowing he was left alone.

jill jones ?off and on so who knows.

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Reply #46 posted 04/25/16 11:52am

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Reply #47 posted 04/25/16 12:01pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Damaras. The doves. God.

Surely not Damaras, I didn't see any tears from her after the Memorial Saturday... cry eye hmm

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Reply #48 posted 06/02/16 3:55pm

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I totally agree with this thread.. I personally think that Prince may have had some form of cancer probably pancreatic cancer and knew he was dying hence the taking of the fentanyl. He then wanted to be alone, as was his custom, to go peacefully into the arms of the person he loved most - His Lord and saviour. I wish that he had been confined to the hospital but working in healthcare I know that he couldn't be and I realize that I am being selfish in wanting to keep him alive for MY purposes but he was a man who lived a million lifetimes in the time that he was here. he was born "alive" and with a purpose so he lived his purpose.. He, like myself, in the numerology world has the life path of 9.. a humanitarian http://seventhlifepath.co...-number-9/ and usually this life path experiences a LOT of pain and trauma in life.. but remain giving and compassionate... i think because 9s can empathize and sympathize with others who feel pain because they've also experienced it. Enough of that talk.. I find the autopsy results have brought a measure of peace to me. I know he's on his next journey. He did as he stated years ago with that Mel B interview.. he threw a party to celebrate his life's end... everytime i am sad about his passing I sit back and think to myself.. just remember that you have lived at the same time as Prince to have witnessed his greatness... something that will be spoken about for years to come like Mozart and Bach and all the other great musicians....

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Reply #49 posted 06/02/16 4:42pm

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dodger said:

JellyJam said:

I find this heartbreaking. I'm often accused of being a loner, but no-one should die alone.

Totally. Of course it's not unusual for someone to have alone time or live alone but the thought of someone dying alone is terrible, speaking from experience. . I am surprised though he was alone at PP over-night with it being such a big complex. You can imagine him sending staff or friends home insisting he was OK but you'd expect him to have at least a security guard there.

Exactly....It ain't like he was just the neighbor down the street! disbelief disbelief disbelief

Welcome home class. We've come a long way. - RIP Prince
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Reply #50 posted 06/02/16 6:51pm

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FUNKYNESS said:

Some people want to make it incredibly sad. Prince was hardly alone on the world. An elevator ride alone doesn't make him alone. He probably needed to be alone in the studio. He had as many people around him as he wanted. His independence is one of the traits that made him great. What would have been sad is waatching him laid up in a hospital with tubes in him clinging to life or watching him deteriorate and whither away slowly from some lingering sickness - unable to be Prince. At least he didnt have to suffer through something. THat would have been the worst for everyone.

[Edited 4/22/16 17:05pm]

Well said my friend.

for christs sake...he was doing what he normally does....thats not "being alone" .....he shouldve taken the OD more seriously....

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Reply #51 posted 06/02/16 7:14pm

luvsexy4all

still wondering why NO RESPONSE from Kirky? he lived 2 minutes from him , supposed to be so close and wont give anything of himself???

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Reply #52 posted 06/02/16 7:33pm

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nursev said:



Astasheiks said:


"Waiting on his girlfriend, who went shopping"



And Who was she???



best for her to stay anonymous maybe for awhile and it hurts too bad knowing he was left alone.




He had a partner leading up to his death?
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Reply #53 posted 06/02/16 8:24pm

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luvsexy4all said:

still wondering why NO RESPONSE from Kirky? he lived 2 minutes from him , supposed to be so close and wont give anything of himself???

Kirky has retained an attorney and released a statement couple weeks ago that he was still "heartbroken" and offering no comment at this time. I read somewhere that the attorney has a practice in criminal defense.

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Reply #54 posted 06/02/16 11:58pm

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As much as I love Prince, I bet he was difficult to live with, not because of his personality but because of the pressure he put on himself. His expectations were immesurably high. When someone has laser point focus, they tend to favor routines that might be tough for anyone but them to follow. I think Prince thrived in privacy, he could have carte blanche where creativity was concerned, so I don't find his desire to be alone at all unusual (however the lack of a security guard on the premises is odd). I am quite the lone wolf myself, despite being a wife, there are times my husband knows to respect my space for our sanity, I assume Prince inspired the same. & if he was anything like me when I am sick, I avoid others at all cost so not to burden them, yes I know how stubborn this is. If his friends understood the severity of the situation it would still have been hard to make that call to intervene & risk going against Prince's wishes, he could be unforgiving. But in all honesty I don't think Prince was forthcoming with information in terms of personal health, I doubt he ever let on how he struggled or how pained he was. It is terrible to think that the prior hospital incident was what exposed him... maybe friends chalked it up to an isolated incident, unaware of past issues?

I am baffled too, & would like to think I would have risked inducing his wrath if it meant being there for him, but as much as I want to put the onus on others, or see them at fault I don't think it's entirely fair. I don't think this is the time for shame or ridicule, but rather mindfulness... at the end of the day , no one could stop Prince but himself, that is what has always made his story so ironically beautiful...
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Reply #55 posted 06/03/16 12:32am

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Even if a friend wanted to be there and check on him, it's not like they can probably walk up to Prince's beside while he's sleeping and make sure he's ok. It would have to be someone he was dating most likely and doesn't sound anyone fit that bill and also he felt like crap and probably didn't want anyone around.

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Reply #56 posted 06/03/16 12:45am

EloiseEloise

I know that an Aussie female was living with Prince as his personal photographer. But I don't know if shw was there right up until his death. She did come to Australa to photograph him on the P & M tour this year though.

If you google words like Australian photographer and Prince you ma find it - I read an article on her and her boyfriends' experience living with Prince in an Australan newsoaper online.
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Reply #57 posted 06/03/16 4:43am

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I live alone and have done so always. I'm 51, female. Yes, I do sometimes wish I had someone "be somebody's somebody", but basically I'm happy like this. I can't even sleep with others in the room.

I fully expect to die alone some day and it is fine. I think I'd probably prefer it that way. Like Prince I am not the least bit afraid of death and expect good things. I have at times had the feeling that this could be it. My health isn't fantastic. And I am alright with it and actually have preferred being alone as I don't want anyone to go through the trauma of seeing me die.

Like Prince I hide it if I feel bad, physically or otherwise. Not always possible of course, but when I can. I have actually felt like I was having a heart attack with my mum sitting next to me and she never noticed. I haven't told her. My only thought was "not now" because she still has the trauma of how her mother died.

So I totally get him as far as this is concerned and I don't think dying alone was a bad thing for him. He was always close to God and if he had time to notice what was happening, he would have talked to him and felt at peace with that. Personally I would prefer to be alone with God to be able to concentrate on that and not on the needs of those around me.

If any of this makes any sense to others. smile
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Reply #58 posted 06/03/16 4:49am

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Bunsterdk said:

I live alone and have done so always. I'm 51, female. Yes, I do sometimes wish I had someone "be somebody's somebody", but basically I'm happy like this. I can't even sleep with others in the room. I fully expect to die alone some day and it is fine. I think I'd probably prefer it that way. Like Prince I am not the least bit afraid of death and expect good things. I have at times had the feeling that this could be it. My health isn't fantastic. And I am alright with it and actually have preferred being alone as I don't want anyone to go through the trauma of seeing me die. Like Prince I hide it if I feel bad, physically or otherwise. Not always possible of course, but when I can. I have actually felt like I was having a heart attack with my mum sitting next to me and she never noticed. I haven't told her. My only thought was "not now" because she still has the trauma of how her mother died. So I totally get him as far as this is concerned and I don't think dying alone was a bad thing for him. He was always close to God and if he had time to notice what was happening, he would have talked to him and felt at peace with that. Personally I would prefer to be alone with God to be able to concentrate on that and not on the needs of those around me. If any of this makes any sense to others. smile

There is NOTHING worse than being in a personal health crisis and having others around you, behaving frustrated like you are letting them down, being a burden. You're trapped in your body and making the world miserable. A hellish prison.

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Who wouldn't choose to be 'alone'?




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Reply #59 posted 06/03/16 9:03am

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Even if he had 10 people living with him he could've still died alone. Prince had no children and no wife or girlfriend (that we knew of) so if he had people in his home after working hours that would've been quite odd. I know I don't go home with my boss after work has finished.
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