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Onthe1jb

Who was Prince living with at Paisley Park?

I just need to know who would've been around him in that wonderful place for him.His essence.

But who would've been staying there with him. I can't imagine him being alone? That is why it hurts me to know he was found in the elevator. I can't imagine him ever being alone for some reason.

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Reply #1 posted 04/22/16 2:57pm

Marco81

Onthe1jb said:

I just need to know who would've been around him in that wonderful place for him.His essence.



But who would've been staying there with him. I can't imagine him being alone? That is why it hurts me to know he was found in the elevator. I can't imagine him ever being alone for some reason.


Sadly, he was all alone in Paisley Park, according to the press conference. He could have died anytime between 8pm and 9am. Incredibly sad...all alone.
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Reply #2 posted 04/22/16 3:09pm

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the sad part was that he was alone... If he was battling the flu and was hospitalized i would imagine that someone would be looking after him or at least checking on him constantly.. i dont know, but thats the fishy part about this

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Reply #3 posted 04/22/16 3:11pm

Arunas

If he was alone, who reported then?

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Reply #4 posted 04/22/16 3:14pm

steakfinger

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If he was alone, who reported then?



Perhaps the PP employees showing up for work that morning?
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Reply #5 posted 04/22/16 3:16pm

antonb

A member of staff tried to contact him, but not until the next morning. Its heart breaking to think that maybe if he hadnt been on his own he could have been saved. Or at least checked on later in the evening. So sad.

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Reply #6 posted 04/22/16 3:24pm

BanishedBrian

dolphinkiing23 said:

the sad part was that he was alone... If he was battling the flu and was hospitalized i would imagine that someone would be looking after him or at least checking on him constantly.. i dont know, but thats the fishy part about this

He and they probably underappreciated his condition - or perhaps the illness triggered something unexpected, like a coronary event. We'll find out eventually.

Going back many years, I think Prince worked alone a lot, especially at night. And he also wasn't one to take direction from his staff, so if he decided that he felt fine and wanted to work alone that evening, I doubt it's something his staff would overrule or question.

Of course it is tragic that this event occured at a time when there was nobody there to help, but I don't think we should feel sad that he was alone. If Prince hadn't spent so much time alone over the last 40 years, he would never have been "Prince" or made all his output. It was just a part of who he was as an artist.

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Reply #7 posted 04/22/16 3:38pm

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...for me, rightly or wrongly, I always think it sound worse when someone dies alone. I hope I'm wrong...

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Reply #8 posted 04/22/16 3:49pm

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BanishedBrian said:

dolphinkiing23 said:

the sad part was that he was alone... If he was battling the flu and was hospitalized i would imagine that someone would be looking after him or at least checking on him constantly.. i dont know, but thats the fishy part about this

He and they probably underappreciated his condition - or perhaps the illness triggered something unexpected, like a coronary event. We'll find out eventually.

Going back many years, I think Prince worked alone a lot, especially at night. And he also wasn't one to take direction from his staff, so if he decided that he felt fine and wanted to work alone that evening, I doubt it's something his staff would overrule or question.

Of course it is tragic that this event occured at a time when there was nobody there to help, but I don't think we should feel sad that he was alone. If Prince hadn't spent so much time alone over the last 40 years, he would never have been "Prince" or made all his output. It was just a part of who he was as an artist.

this, for me is the saddest part. was it because of his fear of paparazzis and public exposure that he chose not to stay in hospital after his plane landed? his fear of being handled by strangers in some anonymous medical facility where he knew and trusted no one that preventd him from seeking health care? i wish he'd had someone in his life, someone right there with him to turn to, someone strong enough to order him to bed and stay there until you're better.

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but i doubt that anyone, including prince, thought he would die. he rode his bike, gave a party, went to the electric fetus and the Dakota jazz club. to me it seemed he was fine, maybe exhausted a bit.

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as far as dying alone, the angel of death escorts us all rose

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Reply #9 posted 04/22/16 4:34pm

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XxAxX said:



BanishedBrian said:




dolphinkiing23 said:


the sad part was that he was alone... If he was battling the flu and was hospitalized i would imagine that someone would be looking after him or at least checking on him constantly.. i dont know, but thats the fishy part about this




He and they probably underappreciated his condition - or perhaps the illness triggered something unexpected, like a coronary event. We'll find out eventually.



Going back many years, I think Prince worked alone a lot, especially at night. And he also wasn't one to take direction from his staff, so if he decided that he felt fine and wanted to work alone that evening, I doubt it's something his staff would overrule or question.



Of course it is tragic that this event occured at a time when there was nobody there to help, but I don't think we should feel sad that he was alone. If Prince hadn't spent so much time alone over the last 40 years, he would never have been "Prince" or made all his output. It was just a part of who he was as an artist.



this, for me is the saddest part. was it because of his fear of paparazzis and public exposure that he chose not to stay in hospital after his plane landed? his fear of being handled by strangers in some anonymous medical facility where he knew and trusted no one that preventd him from seeking health care? i wish he'd had someone in his life, someone right there with him to turn to, someone strong enough to order him to bed and stay there until you're better.


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but i doubt that anyone, including prince, thought he would die. he rode his bike, gave a party, went to the electric fetus and the Dakota jazz club. to me it seemed he was fine, maybe exhausted a bit.


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as far as dying alone, the angel of death escorts us all rose



I can't believe he didn't have a better grasp on his own health. It's one thing for a plane to divert to an unfamiliar town and not feel comfortable but sheesh why didn't he follow up when he got back to Minneapolis?
You throw a party instead? I'm beyond f**king confused
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Reply #10 posted 04/22/16 4:41pm

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BanishedBrian said:

dolphinkiing23 said:

the sad part was that he was alone... If he was battling the flu and was hospitalized i would imagine that someone would be looking after him or at least checking on him constantly.. i dont know, but thats the fishy part about this

He and they probably underappreciated his condition - or perhaps the illness triggered something unexpected, like a coronary event. We'll find out eventually.

Going back many years, I think Prince worked alone a lot, especially at night. And he also wasn't one to take direction from his staff, so if he decided that he felt fine and wanted to work alone that evening, I doubt it's something his staff would overrule or question.

Of course it is tragic that this event occured at a time when there was nobody there to help, but I don't think we should feel sad that he was alone. If Prince hadn't spent so much time alone over the last 40 years, he would never have been "Prince" or made all his output. It was just a part of who he was as an artist.

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Reply #11 posted 04/22/16 4:50pm

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In Jan at the 1st Piano & Microhphone show at Pialsey, he commented how nice it was to share with us because at times he often plays alone. SO happy we got to witness this show one last time'

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Reply #12 posted 04/22/16 5:01pm

FUNKYNESS

Marco81 said:

Onthe1jb said:

I just need to know who would've been around him in that wonderful place for him.His essence.

But who would've been staying there with him. I can't imagine him being alone? That is why it hurts me to know he was found in the elevator. I can't imagine him ever being alone for some reason.

Sadly, he was all alone in Paisley Park, according to the press conference. He could have died anytime between 8pm and 9am. Incredibly sad...all alone.

Some people want to make it incredibly sad. Prince was hardly alone on the world. An elevator ride alone doesn't make him alone. He probably needed to be alone in the studio. He had as many people around him as he wanted. His independence is one of the traits that made him great. What would have been sad is waatching him laid up in a hospital with tubes in him clinging to life or watching him deteriorate and whither away slowly from some lingering sickness - unable to be Prince. At least he didnt have to suffer through something. THat would have been the worst for everyone.

[Edited 4/22/16 17:05pm]

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mynameisnotsusan said:

XxAxX said:

this, for me is the saddest part. was it because of his fear of paparazzis and public exposure that he chose not to stay in hospital after his plane landed? his fear of being handled by strangers in some anonymous medical facility where he knew and trusted no one that preventd him from seeking health care? i wish he'd had someone in his life, someone right there with him to turn to, someone strong enough to order him to bed and stay there until you're better.

.

but i doubt that anyone, including prince, thought he would die. he rode his bike, gave a party, went to the electric fetus and the Dakota jazz club. to me it seemed he was fine, maybe exhausted a bit.

.

as far as dying alone, the angel of death escorts us all rose

I can't believe he didn't have a better grasp on his own health. It's one thing for a plane to divert to an unfamiliar town and not feel comfortable but sheesh why didn't he follow up when he got back to Minneapolis? You throw a party instead? I'm beyond f**king confused

i know. me too. it doesn't make sense. i'm devastated to think he had no one close enough to be taking real care of him when he needed it.

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Reply #14 posted 04/22/16 6:34pm

214

Perhaps he needed to just left alone.

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Reply #15 posted 04/22/16 6:38pm

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214 said:

Perhaps he needed to just left alone.

"all i ever wanted was to be left alone"

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Reply #16 posted 04/22/16 6:39pm

214

Perhaps he needed to just left alone.

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Reply #17 posted 04/22/16 10:14pm

Exetergirl

214 said:

Perhaps he needed to just left alone.

Prince was an introvert and indeed a brilliant advert for the power of introversion in a country/world which rates extroversion. As 214 said he lived most of his life alone and as he was a really private person it wouldn't be surprising if he wanted to die alone.

I've been with both parents when they died and it is indeed a special moment. But when my sister and I sat (and even slept) by my Dad for days waiting for him to die, the medical staff told us that some people prefer to be alone when they die. Yes, it can actually be their own choice. It is not unusual for some to wait until all their visitors have gone and then slip off themselves.

[Edited 4/22/16 22:15pm]

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Reply #18 posted 04/22/16 10:19pm

Exetergirl

FUNKYNESS said:

Marco81 said:

Onthe1jb said: Sadly, he was all alone in Paisley Park, according to the press conference. He could have died anytime between 8pm and 9am. Incredibly sad...all alone.

Some people want to make it incredibly sad. Prince was hardly alone on the world. An elevator ride alone doesn't make him alone. He probably needed to be alone in the studio. He had as many people around him as he wanted. His independence is one of the traits that made him great. What would have been sad is waatching him laid up in a hospital with tubes in him clinging to life or watching him deteriorate and whither away slowly from some lingering sickness - unable to be Prince. At least he didnt have to suffer through something. THat would have been the worst for everyone.

[Edited 4/22/16 17:05pm]

Completely agree. Although it's a horrible shock for everyone around when someone dies suddenly, it's actually a blessing to know that they didn't suffer for ages.

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Reply #19 posted 04/22/16 10:40pm

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214 said:

Perhaps he needed to just left alone.

This.

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #20 posted 04/23/16 2:17am

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FUNKYNESS said:



Marco81 said:


Onthe1jb said:

I just need to know who would've been around him in that wonderful place for him.His essence.



But who would've been staying there with him. I can't imagine him being alone? That is why it hurts me to know he was found in the elevator. I can't imagine him ever being alone for some reason.



Sadly, he was all alone in Paisley Park, according to the press conference. He could have died anytime between 8pm and 9am. Incredibly sad...all alone.

Some people want to make it incredibly sad. Prince was hardly alone on the world. An elevator ride alone doesn't make him alone. He probably needed to be alone in the studio. He had as many people around him as he wanted. His independence is one of the traits that made him great. What would have been sad is waatching him laid up in a hospital with tubes in him clinging to life or watching him deteriorate and whither away slowly from some lingering sickness - unable to be Prince. At least he didnt have to suffer through something. THat would have been the worst for everyone.

[Edited 4/22/16 17:05pm]



Well said my friend.
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Reply #21 posted 04/23/16 2:28am

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Alot of people have some alone time. Isn't that normal?

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Reply #22 posted 04/24/16 1:17pm

214

FUNKYNESS said:

Marco81 said:

Onthe1jb said: Sadly, he was all alone in Paisley Park, according to the press conference. He could have died anytime between 8pm and 9am. Incredibly sad...all alone.

Some people want to make it incredibly sad. Prince was hardly alone on the world. An elevator ride alone doesn't make him alone. He probably needed to be alone in the studio. He had as many people around him as he wanted. His independence is one of the traits that made him great. What would have been sad is waatching him laid up in a hospital with tubes in him clinging to life or watching him deteriorate and whither away slowly from some lingering sickness - unable to be Prince. At least he didnt have to suffer through something. THat would have been the worst for everyone.

[Edited 4/22/16 17:05pm]

You're right.

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Reply #23 posted 04/24/16 1:48pm

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Exetergirl said:

214 said:

Perhaps he needed to just left alone.

Prince was an introvert and indeed a brilliant advert for the power of introversion in a country/world which rates extroversion. As 214 said he lived most of his life alone and as he was a really private person it wouldn't be surprising if he wanted to die alone.

I've been with both parents when they died and it is indeed a special moment. But when my sister and I sat (and even slept) by my Dad for days waiting for him to die, the medical staff told us that some people prefer to be alone when they die. Yes, it can actually be their own choice. It is not unusual for some to wait until all their visitors have gone and then slip off themselves.

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So true. My dad for example did not die alone (he was surrounded by his brother and sister) but at the moment my mom finally tried to sleep for a couple of hours and when I went home for a short break.

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But this implies that P knew he was dying, we still don't know if that's true.

PP is a large building, who knows there were others elsewhere that did not check every minute where he was. I can imagine there was security somewhere.

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Reply #24 posted 04/24/16 1:57pm

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slvrhrt7 said:

In Jan at the 1st Piano & Microhphone show at Pialsey, he commented how nice it was to share with us because at times he often plays alone. SO happy we got to witness this show one last time'

I find this heartbreaking. I'm often accused of being a loner, but no-one should die alone.

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Reply #25 posted 04/24/16 2:09pm

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dolphinkiing23 said:

the sad part was that he was alone... If he was battling the flu and was hospitalized i would imagine that someone would be looking after him or at least checking on him constantly.. i dont know, but thats the fishy part about this

Yes Sir!

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Reply #26 posted 04/24/16 2:12pm

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FUNKYNESS said:

Marco81 said:

Onthe1jb said: Sadly, he was all alone in Paisley Park, according to the press conference. He could have died anytime between 8pm and 9am. Incredibly sad...all alone.

Some people want to make it incredibly sad. Prince was hardly alone on the world. An elevator ride alone doesn't make him alone. He probably needed to be alone in the studio. He had as many people around him as he wanted. His independence is one of the traits that made him great. What would have been sad is waatching him laid up in a hospital with tubes in him clinging to life or watching him deteriorate and whither away slowly from some lingering sickness - unable to be Prince. At least he didnt have to suffer through something. THat would have been the worst for everyone.

[Edited 4/22/16 17:05pm]

Disagree, Either way is bad.

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Reply #27 posted 04/24/16 2:14pm

EddieC

Exetergirl said:

I've been with both parents when they died and it is indeed a special moment. But when my sister and I sat (and even slept) by my Dad for days waiting for him to die, the medical staff told us that some people prefer to be alone when they die. Yes, it can actually be their own choice. It is not unusual for some to wait until all their visitors have gone and then slip off themselves.

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This may or may not have anything to do with Prince's death, but it certainly is true that some people choose to die alone, even when family and friends are present. I worked for years in geriatric care, and many people near death seemed to choose their moments--waiting for an arrival of a particular person, or, contrastingly, waiting for a collection of people to leave. In my own family experience, it's happened at least twice. I didn't find this out until after the fact, but my mother was dying of cancer and my brother, my sister, my aunt, and I were all with her. When my mom was alone with my aunt during the course of the day, she told my aunt to go home and that she didn't want us there when she died. My aunt didn't tell us, but she went home for the night. Mom sent me home (a 6 hour drive away) telling me that it would be okay but I needed to be with my family, and then she waited until my brother was sleeping on a cot they pulled in and my sister had left the room to get a drink. She was out of the room for just a couple of minutes, and Mom was dead when she got back.

Then, when my wife's grandfather was dying (just a few weeks later), the whole family was staying at his bedside. My wife and I (she also worked in geriatrics) suspected that he was holding on until he was alone, so we got my father-in-law away from the group and told him what we thought was happening. A little later (after we left to drive back home), he convinced the others to go get some food while my wife's grandfather was sleeping--they hadn't even gotten out of the hospital parking lot before they got the call from the nurse that he'd died.

I don't think this applies to Prince. But it's a real phenomenon.

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Reply #29 posted 04/24/16 2:21pm

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JellyJam said:



slvrhrt7 said:


In Jan at the 1st Piano & Microhphone show at Pialsey, he commented how nice it was to share with us because at times he often plays alone. SO happy we got to witness this show one last time'







I find this heartbreaking. I'm often accused of being a loner, but no-one should die alone.



Totally. Of course it's not unusual for someone to have alone time or live alone but the thought of someone dying alone is terrible, speaking from experience.
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I am surprised though he was alone at PP over-night with it being such a big complex. You can imagine him sending staff or friends home insisting he was OK but you'd expect him to have at least a security guard there.
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