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Thread started 01/16/16 2:48pm

bigbrother

Should Prince have fronted The Time?

Considering Prince's control issues and ego, do you think he should have been the frontman/lead singer for The Time? As he's admitted they were the only band he's ever feared and by doing this he could have reinforced the fact that he wrote many of their songs and showed off his multi-faceted skills with both The Time and The Revolution, expressing himself differently with each band. I believe he did this a few years ago with 3rd Eye Girl and The NPG so why not then? He could have relegated Morris to the drums as he was/is a pretty good on the skins but could Prince have pulled off Morris' 'pimp' act with Jerome to such comic effect? Would he have had to change his clothes as well, since the purple trenchcoat of the 1999 wouldn't really have matched The Time's style?

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Reply #1 posted 01/16/16 2:58pm

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I don't have an answer for you, other than I would love to have seen it. Also, what a fab question! Better than all the bullshit about the fro has to go or is he past it.
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Reply #2 posted 01/16/16 3:16pm

bigbrother

Thanks! If I remember correctly, didn't P promise Morris that he could lead The Time in exchange for Morris' song 'Partyup'? So maybe there was some loyalty there or possibly Warner Brothers wouldn't allow it as they wanted him to develop in a more singular way as an artist.

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Reply #3 posted 01/16/16 3:25pm

bonnie184

great question.

i think Morris played the role better then Prince would have.

With that said, hearing The Time songs with Prince vocals is a wet dream of mine. Primarily these 3 tracks. Gigolos get lonely too, I don't want to leave and Donald Trump(black version).

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Reply #4 posted 01/16/16 3:40pm

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I feel like Prince answered that question for us when he attempted to sing The Bird during his Welcome2America Tour. His vocals just aren't as powerful as Morris's. Add to that, Prince is kind of feminine in his mannerisms and fashion choices and, well, The Time is a totally different band with Prince as the lead. I don't think it works out well.

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Reply #5 posted 01/16/16 3:59pm

bigbrother

I agree for the most part, Funksterr, but I would say Prince is a much better singer than Morris
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Reply #6 posted 01/16/16 5:31pm

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no

if he did we would not have had the wonderful era of 1982-1983 Prince & the noituloveR the Time & Vanity 6

that is where things failed in 1987 Prince(SOTT) & Madhouse, Madhouse could not succeed because Prince (Dr Fink Eric Leeds Levi Seacer jr) were in 2 bands at the same time, Dale Alexander on the drums was a step in the right direction

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Reply #7 posted 01/16/16 6:20pm

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Oh Baby would be even more bomb with P on lead as well music. Even tho Mo-is is the man nod.
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Reply #8 posted 01/16/16 8:46pm

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No, over saturation is the word. He was already super prolific during this era, so fronting The Time would've been too much, better vocals notwithstanding. Besides, the mystique, the swag, and overall cool dude band legacy would be diminished IMO. For example some of my male friends during the early days (when they were trying to make sense of P's sexual schtick), would say they were going to The Time concert, and they were just the opening act. P fronting the band doesn't create the SEPARATION needed for them to flourish
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Reply #9 posted 01/16/16 9:00pm

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No. As good as Prince is he is not as cool as Morris Day. Only Morris can pull that persona off between the two. With Prince it just would not be the same . Morris is the coolest persona and pulls it off like no one else. Prince tries at times but it seems fake to me when he tries. Morris was the perfect frontman for The Time at least in my opinion.

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Reply #10 posted 01/16/16 9:21pm

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trax said:

No. As good as Prince is he is not as cool as Morris Day. Only Morris can pull that persona off between the two. With Prince it just would not be the same . Morris is the coolest persona and pulls it off like no one else. Prince tries at times but it seems fake to me when he tries. Morris was the perfect frontman for The Time at least in my opinion.

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Agreed. Morris was/is perfect for that role.

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Reply #11 posted 01/16/16 10:57pm

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homesquid said:



trax said:


No. As good as Prince is he is not as cool as Morris Day. Only Morris can pull that persona off between the two. With Prince it just would not be the same . Morris is the coolest persona and pulls it off like no one else. Prince tries at times but it seems fake to me when he tries. Morris was the perfect frontman for The Time at least in my opinion.


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Agreed. Morris was/is perfect for that role.



Yeah, it's like asking "what if Prince fronted Vanity 6?"
It just wouldn't have worked. Morris played that role, although Prince was the director.
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Reply #12 posted 01/17/16 12:43am

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I like Morris, and it has never crossed my mind to replace Morris with anyone else ever, so no.
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Reply #13 posted 01/17/16 1:15am

sovembol

Don't forget... Originally Alexander O'Neal was to be the lead singer.
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Reply #14 posted 01/17/16 1:22am

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I wouldn't want to change what was but I'd love to have the first two albums with Prince doing the lead vocals.
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Reply #15 posted 01/17/16 1:35am

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Prince was Morris in Under The Cherry Moon!
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Reply #16 posted 01/17/16 1:36am

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sovembol said:

Don't forget... Originally Alexander O'Neal was to be the lead singer.

He belongs with Cherrelle. music
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Reply #17 posted 01/17/16 1:54am

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No! We wouldn't have had the Purple Rain film!
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Reply #18 posted 01/17/16 1:56am

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I would love to hear Prince do lead vocals on "get it up" and "jungle love"
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Reply #19 posted 01/17/16 6:56am

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Nope. I love The Time just how they were thank you. P's vers of Databank is slammin tho...
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Reply #20 posted 01/17/16 7:00am

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sovembol said:

Don't forget... Originally Alexander O'Neal was to be the lead singer.

He did not look like Prince, so he had 2 go

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Reply #21 posted 01/17/16 7:17am

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OldFriends4Sale said:



sovembol said:


Don't forget... Originally Alexander O'Neal was to be the lead singer.


He did not look like Prince, so he had 2 go


Morris and Vanity. Now I get it. smile
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Reply #22 posted 01/17/16 7:22am

TrevorAyer

hell no

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Reply #23 posted 01/17/16 7:27am

CharismaDove

kenkamken said:

homesquid said:

Agreed. Morris was/is perfect for that role.

Yeah, it's like asking "what if Prince fronted Vanity 6?" It just wouldn't have worked. Morris played that role, although Prince was the director.

Perfect reply. It would be too hard for Prince to play so many roles, so it makes sense that he became Director and hired people specifically tailored for certain roles/images/fantasies of his.

And he wouldn't have time anyway, as Morris' role was supposed to be loud/cool/confident, whereas Prince's image at the time was dark, mysterious, that shy brooding type. Cool in completely different ways.

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Reply #24 posted 01/17/16 7:28am

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funksterr said:

I feel like Prince answered that question for us when he attempted to sing The Bird during his Welcome2America Tour. His vocals just aren't as powerful as Morris's. Add to that, Prince is kind of feminine in his mannerisms and fashion choices and, well, The Time is a totally different band with Prince as the lead. I don't think it works out well.

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Reply #25 posted 01/17/16 7:57am

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does it ever occur to anyone that the time would not exist without morris? .. the songs the music the image

y'all give prince way too much credit .. like he envisioned all this time swagger and just hired morris to fit the part ..

no .. p played off of what morris already brought to the table, embellished it, produced it, polished it, drove it, but morris was the spark .. the inspiration, his personality, his way of talking shit or goofing off .. p copied that, as well as the music morris and friends came up with .. p lifted that and molded it .. but in no fucking way in hell did p just come up with this shit all by himself .. and no fucking way he can ever recreate without those people present and participating

same with other band members .. p lifted the basis of those songs and added his own thing but he was not the spark .. the people around him were

prince is an excellent mimic ... p can play anything he hears ... and did so when coming up with many of his songs including his work on the time albums .. that doesn't mean he wrote it all .. that doesn't mean prince could have had a hit with Jungle Love had he sung it .. he would not have .. just look at nothing compares to you .. prince version blows chunks .. sinead knocked that shit out of the park ..

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Reply #26 posted 01/17/16 8:22am

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TrevorAyer said:

does it ever occur to anyone that the time would not exist without morris? .. the songs the music the image

y'all give prince way too much credit .. like he envisioned all this time swagger and just hired morris to fit the part ..

no .. p played off of what morris already brought to the table, embellished it, produced it, polished it, drove it, but morris was the spark .. the inspiration, his personality, his way of talking shit or goofing off .. p copied that, as well as the music morris and friends came up with .. p lifted that and molded it .. but in no fucking way in hell did p just come up with this shit all by himself .. and no fucking way he can ever recreate without those people present and participating

same with other band members .. p lifted the basis of those songs and added his own thing but he was not the spark .. the people around him were

prince is an excellent mimic ... p can play anything he hears ... and did so when coming up with many of his songs including his work on the time albums .. that doesn't mean he wrote it all .. that doesn't mean prince could have had a hit with Jungle Love had he sung it .. he would not have .. just look at nothing compares to you .. prince version blows chunks .. sinead knocked that shit out of the park ..

Good point. Many people (including myself) tend to give Prince associates less credit than they deserve

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Reply #27 posted 01/17/16 8:29am

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TrevorAyer said:

does it ever occur to anyone that the time would not exist without morris? .. the songs the music the image



y'all give prince way too much credit .. like he envisioned all this time swagger and just hired morris to fit the part ..



no .. p played off of what morris already brought to the table, embellished it, produced it, polished it, drove it, but morris was the spark .. the inspiration, his personality, his way of talking shit or goofing off .. p copied that, as well as the music morris and friends came up with .. p lifted that and molded it .. but in no fucking way in hell did p just come up with this shit all by himself .. and no fucking way he can ever recreate without those people present and participating



same with other band members .. p lifted the basis of those songs and added his own thing but he was not the spark .. the people around him were



prince is an excellent mimic ... p can play anything he hears ... and did so when coming up with many of his songs including his work on the time albums .. that doesn't mean he wrote it all .. that doesn't mean prince could have had a hit with Jungle Love had he sung it .. he would not have .. just look at nothing compares to you .. prince version blows chunks .. sinead knocked that shit out of the park ..





As usual you go way to far. To suggest he lifted all of his songs from band members and associates is ridiculous.
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Reply #28 posted 01/17/16 8:41am

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paulludvig said:

TrevorAyer said:

does it ever occur to anyone that the time would not exist without morris? .. the songs the music the image



y'all give prince way too much credit .. like he envisioned all this time swagger and just hired morris to fit the part ..



no .. p played off of what morris already brought to the table, embellished it, produced it, polished it, drove it, but morris was the spark .. the inspiration, his personality, his way of talking shit or goofing off .. p copied that, as well as the music morris and friends came up with .. p lifted that and molded it .. but in no fucking way in hell did p just come up with this shit all by himself .. and no fucking way he can ever recreate without those people present and participating



same with other band members .. p lifted the basis of those songs and added his own thing but he was not the spark .. the people around him were



prince is an excellent mimic ... p can play anything he hears ... and did so when coming up with many of his songs including his work on the time albums .. that doesn't mean he wrote it all .. that doesn't mean prince could have had a hit with Jungle Love had he sung it .. he would not have .. just look at nothing compares to you .. prince version blows chunks .. sinead knocked that shit out of the park ..





As usual you go way to far. To suggest he lifted all of his songs from band members and associates is ridiculous.


But i did not suggest that. I said MANY not All. So what is your point again?
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Reply #29 posted 01/17/16 8:44am

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i'm assuming you know all these people personally or is this just your opinion? you people give the associates too much credit

TrevorAyer said:

does it ever occur to anyone that the time would not exist without morris? .. the songs the music the image

y'all give prince way too much credit .. like he envisioned all this time swagger and just hired morris to fit the part ..

no .. p played off of what morris already brought to the table, embellished it, produced it, polished it, drove it, but morris was the spark .. the inspiration, his personality, his way of talking shit or goofing off .. p copied that, as well as the music morris and friends came up with .. p lifted that and molded it .. but in no fucking way in hell did p just come up with this shit all by himself .. and no fucking way he can ever recreate without those people present and participating

same with other band members .. p lifted the basis of those songs and added his own thing but he was not the spark .. the people around him were

prince is an excellent mimic ... p can play anything he hears ... and did so when coming up with many of his songs including his work on the time albums .. that doesn't mean he wrote it all .. that doesn't mean prince could have had a hit with Jungle Love had he sung it .. he would not have .. just look at nothing compares to you .. prince version blows chunks .. sinead knocked that shit out of the park ..

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