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Reply #210 posted 01/27/16 7:05am

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SoulAlive said:


Let's pretend that Vanity never left the group and their second album was released in the summer of '84.This is how I would have liked the tracklist to be....check out the outrageous title I came up with for the album! LOL



'In Search Of The G-Spot'----Vanity 6



Side One---


Sex Shooter (the circulating version with Vanity on lead vocals)


Vibrator (lead vocals: Vanity)


G-Spot (lead vocals: Vanity)



Side Two---


Blue Limousine (lead vocals:Brenda)


*****a song with Susan on lead vocals (not "Ooh She She Wa Wa"....let's have a stronger song)


Some Kind Of Lover (lead vocals: Brenda)


Moral Majority (lead vocals: Vanity)



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I would add


17 Days (w/Brenda & Prince co-lead) replace Some Kind of Lover


Manic Monday would have been a hit for Vanity 6 I can see Vanity's sassiness on this one


since Brenda was backing vocals on Next Time Wipe the Lipstick Off Your Collar, I think that would have been a fitting track.


Lust U Always ( a song with Susan on lead vocals) or Turn It Up



no A Millions Miles(I Love U) ??



I would put Vibrator as a B side to G-Spot


LOL I think the album title 'In Search of the GSpot' might make it harder to sell?



It would have been cool for them to do Head during their live set






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Reply #211 posted 01/27/16 9:21am

paulludvig

Who was the mystery guitar player that pwrformed with V6 in Detroit at the 20 grand club in 82?

[Edited 1/27/16 10:09am]

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #212 posted 01/27/16 9:22am

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Vanity left because she wanted more pay? So did Patricia work for Vanity's money or did they pay Apollonia the money Vanity wanted and she could have stayed and we got that 2nd Vanity 6 album? By the way, I heart Happy Birthday, Mr. Christian, so that has to be included. lol

Denise felt she wasn't compensated fairly during her whole employment with prince. So she felt since he now wanted her to co-star in a movie with her. Her rate should be risen significantly. He refused. So she took the multi million dollar offer from Motown & bolted. Do U blame her.? I don't.

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #213 posted 01/27/16 1:31pm

SoulAlive

iZsaZsa said:

Vanity left because she wanted more pay? So did Patricia work for Vanity's money or did they pay Apollonia the money Vanity wanted and she could have stayed and we got that 2nd Vanity 6 album?

here is an excerpt from an interview that Denise did several years ago:

As for why she left and didn't do Purple Rain, Denise said one of the reasons was money. She was only being paid $250 a week and Prince wasn't paying her for the tour they went on, or the fact that "Nasty Girl" was such a hit. "Prince was taking all that money and I thought 'you know what? This is adding up to nothing. I'm living out of a hotel-I gotta go' ". When asked if she had regrets about not doing Purple Rain, Matthews said she didn't and revealed that Prince wanted to pay her just $5,000 for the whole movie while she was being offered $300,000 to do ' The Last Dragon' movie. "I said,I'm outta here-that's the best you can do? bye". "It was just to hold me so I couldn't go anywhere. You know what I'm saying, so I couldn't do anything with my life ".

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Reply #214 posted 01/27/16 1:32pm

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Reply #215 posted 01/27/16 1:38pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

LOL I think the album title 'In Search of the G-Spot' might make it harder to sell?

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Reply #216 posted 01/27/16 1:42pm

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Manic Monday would have been a hit for Vanity 6

hmmm I'm not so sure about that.

Plus,Brenda revealed that she wasn't crazy about this song...she said it was "too pop" and I agree.It worked well for a band like the Bangles,but I don't think it works well with V6 or A6.

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Reply #217 posted 01/27/16 2:42pm

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SoulAlive said:



iZsaZsa said:


Vanity left because she wanted more pay? So did Patricia work for Vanity's money or did they pay Apollonia the money Vanity wanted and she could have stayed and we got that 2nd Vanity 6 album?

here is an excerpt from an interview that Denise did several years ago:




As for why she left and didn't do Purple Rain, Denise said one of the reasons was money. She was only being paid $250 a week and Prince wasn't paying her for the tour they went on, or the fact that "Nasty Girl" was such a hit. "Prince was taking all that money and I thought 'you know what? This is adding up to nothing. I'm living out of a hotel-I gotta go' ". When asked if she had regrets about not doing Purple Rain, Matthews said she didn't and revealed that Prince wanted to pay her just $5,000 for the whole movie while she was being offered $300,000 to do ' The Last Dragon' movie. "I said,I'm outta here-that's the best you can do? bye". "It was just to hold me so I couldn't go anywhere. You know what I'm saying, so I couldn't do anything with my life ".




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Living out of a hotel? I thought she was keeping his bed warm until she left.
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Reply #218 posted 01/27/16 2:45pm

SoulAlive

iZsaZsa said:

SoulAlive said:

here is an excerpt from an interview that Denise did several years ago:

As for why she left and didn't do Purple Rain, Denise said one of the reasons was money. She was only being paid $250 a week and Prince wasn't paying her for the tour they went on, or the fact that "Nasty Girl" was such a hit. "Prince was taking all that money and I thought 'you know what? This is adding up to nothing. I'm living out of a hotel-I gotta go' ". When asked if she had regrets about not doing Purple Rain, Matthews said she didn't and revealed that Prince wanted to pay her just $5,000 for the whole movie while she was being offered $300,000 to do ' The Last Dragon' movie. "I said,I'm outta here-that's the best you can do? bye". "It was just to hold me so I couldn't go anywhere. You know what I'm saying, so I couldn't do anything with my life ".

Living out of a hotel? I thought she was keeping his bed warm until she left.

smile apparently,around that time,Prince was also involved with Susan.That's most likely another reason why Vanity left.In a People magazine interview from 1984,Vanity said "I needed one person to love me.Prince needed more".

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Reply #219 posted 01/27/16 2:49pm

SoulAlive

Rick James took Vanity to a music awards show,but Prince enticed her away and bascially stole her from Rick....but then Berry Gordy came along,offered her a ton of money and was able to entice her away from Prince,lol

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Reply #220 posted 01/27/16 2:55pm

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SoulAlive said:



iZsaZsa said:


SoulAlive said:


here is an excerpt from an interview that Denise did several years ago:




As for why she left and didn't do Purple Rain, Denise said one of the reasons was money. She was only being paid $250 a week and Prince wasn't paying her for the tour they went on, or the fact that "Nasty Girl" was such a hit. "Prince was taking all that money and I thought 'you know what? This is adding up to nothing. I'm living out of a hotel-I gotta go' ". When asked if she had regrets about not doing Purple Rain, Matthews said she didn't and revealed that Prince wanted to pay her just $5,000 for the whole movie while she was being offered $300,000 to do ' The Last Dragon' movie. "I said,I'm outta here-that's the best you can do? bye". "It was just to hold me so I couldn't go anywhere. You know what I'm saying, so I couldn't do anything with my life ".





Living out of a hotel? I thought she was keeping his bed warm until she left.



smile apparently,around that time,Prince was also involved with Susan.That's most likely another reason why Vanity left.In a People magazine interview from 1984,Vanity said "I needed one person to love me.Prince needed more".


Susan is badass. lol
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Reply #221 posted 01/27/16 2:57pm

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Rick James took Vanity to a music awards show,but Prince enticed her away and bascially stole her from Rick....but then Berry Gordy came along,offered her a ton of money and was able to entice her away from Prince,lol


It's her life, but do you think maybe Prince kept her broke to keep her off drugs?
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Reply #222 posted 01/27/16 3:18pm

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Vanity & Morris was both using together..

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #223 posted 01/27/16 3:26pm

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Vanity & Morris was both using together..


Then she outgrew them and was gone. dove
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Reply #224 posted 01/27/16 4:49pm

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SoulAlive said:



OldFriends4Sale said:


LOL I think the album title 'In Search of the G-Spot' might make it harder to sell?





biggrin biggrin biggrin falloff



I envision it being a "concept album".Around that time,there was a lot of talk about the elusive G-spot and how so many women were trying to find it,lol.The first three songs on the album ("Sex Shooter","Vibrator" and "G-Spot") are thematically linked.I think it would have been an interesting concept,built around the search for something that was,apparently,so hard to find.
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Reply #225 posted 01/27/16 6:19pm

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SoulAlive said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Manic Monday would have been a hit for Vanity 6

hmmm I'm not so sure about that.

Plus,Brenda revealed that she wasn't crazy about this song...she said it was "too pop" and I agree.It worked well for a band like the Bangles,but I don't think it works well with V6 or A6.

Prince would have made it work. A cool video with him in it play guitar (Brenda played guitar too) would have been cool with them both on guitar

I just think A6 Sex Shooter (tame) and V6 Sex Shooter ... Vanity can make anything steamy

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Reply #226 posted 01/27/16 6:20pm

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SoulAlive said:

SoulAlive said:

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I envision it being a "concept album".Around that time,there was a lot of talk about the elusive G-spot and how so many women were trying to find it,lol.The first three songs on the album ("Sex Shooter","Vibrator" and "G-Spot") are thematically linked.I think it would have been an interesting concept,built around the search for something that was,apparently,so hard to find.

lol Yeah I got the flow, that was pretty cool.

Added Sugar Walls too

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Reply #227 posted 01/27/16 6:22pm

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iZsaZsa said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Vanity & Morris was both using together..

Then she outgrew them and was gone. dove

U mean Vanity and not the 'White Girl' right? lol

Actually Morris & Vanity stayed in touch, and I think they both did a song on each others albums.

It is so funny, the support group effect: All of them were friens and supported each other Brenda Susan Vanity Morris the Time Jerome Jill

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Reply #228 posted 01/27/16 6:24pm

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iZsaZsa said:

SoulAlive said:

Rick James took Vanity to a music awards show,but Prince enticed her away and bascially stole her from Rick....but then Berry Gordy came along,offered her a ton of money and was able to entice her away from Prince,lol

It's her life, but do you think maybe Prince kept her broke to keep her off drugs?

hehehehe

When U R hot and the IT girl you don't have to pay 4 drugs

I don't think Prince knew her abused background, the mindgames her dad played etc Prince did play mindgames

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Reply #229 posted 01/27/16 6:42pm

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SoulAlive said:

iZsaZsa said:

SoulAlive said: Living out of a hotel? I thought she was keeping his bed warm until she left.

smile apparently,around that time,Prince was also involved with Susan.That's most likely another reason why Vanity left.In a People magazine interview from 1984,Vanity said "I needed one person to love me.Prince needed more".

I'll post the story tomorrow. But Susan didn't want to be apart of what Prince was doing, she cut him off from her, and became friends with Vanity

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Reply #230 posted 01/27/16 6:49pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

iZsaZsa said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said: Then she outgrew them and was gone. dove

U mean Vanity and not the 'White Girl' right? lol

Actually Morris & Vanity stayed in touch, and I think they both did a song on each others albums.

It is so funny, the support group effect: All of them were friens and supported each other Brenda Susan Vanity Morris the Time Jerome Jill

I'm familiar with Mechanical Emotion on Vanity's album but what song did Vanity perform on Morris' album?

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Reply #231 posted 01/27/16 7:11pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:



iZsaZsa said:


KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Vanity & Morris was both using together..



Then she outgrew them and was gone. dove


U mean Vanity and not the 'White Girl' right? lol



Actually Morris & Vanity stayed in touch, and I think they both did a song on each others albums.



It is so funny, the support group effect: All of them were friens and supported each other Brenda Susan Vanity Morris the Time Jerome Jill


Which white girl? Brenda? She's clear, but no, Vanity.
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Reply #232 posted 01/27/16 7:49pm

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iZsaZsa said:

SoulAlive said:

Rick James took Vanity to a music awards show,but Prince enticed her away and bascially stole her from Rick....but then Berry Gordy came along,offered her a ton of money and was able to entice her away from Prince,lol


It's her life, but do you think maybe Prince kept her broke to keep her off drugs?


LMFAO!!! "I paid her the least because I loved her the most."
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Reply #233 posted 01/27/16 8:00pm

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tongueinthecrease said:

iZsaZsa said:


It's her life, but do you think maybe Prince kept her broke to keep her off drugs?


LMFAO!!! "I paid her the least because I loved her the most."

lol She said he didn't want her to go anywhere, it was to hold her back from doing anything with her life. But now OF4S has got me thinking Prince must have been trying to run her off.
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Reply #234 posted 01/27/16 9:58pm

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iZsaZsa said:


Vanity left because she wanted more pay? So did Patricia work for Vanity's money or did they pay Apollonia the money Vanity wanted and she could have stayed and we got that 2nd Vanity 6 album?

here is an excerpt from an interview that Denise did several years ago:




As for why she left and didn't do Purple Rain, Denise said one of the reasons was money. She was only being paid $250 a week and Prince wasn't paying her for the tour they went on, or the fact that "Nasty Girl" was such a hit. "Prince was taking all that money and I thought 'you know what? This is adding up to nothing. I'm living out of a hotel-I gotta go' ". When asked if she had regrets about not doing Purple Rain, Matthews said she didn't and revealed that Prince wanted to pay her just $5,000 for the whole movie while she was being offered $300,000 to do ' The Last Dragon' movie. "I said,I'm outta here-that's the best you can do? bye". "It was just to hold me so I couldn't go anywhere. You know what I'm saying, so I couldn't do anything with my life ".




.





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I think,from a business standpoint,she probably made the right decision by leaving.But for my own selfish reasons,I wish she had stayed,done the Purple Rain movie and a second V6 album.If she had done that and then went solo in 1985,she would have been in a much stronger position to launch her solo career.Morris Day wisely stayed and was able to launch his solo career from the hype that the movie generated.His first solo album was very successful while Vanity's 'Wild Animal' album was a flop.
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Reply #235 posted 01/27/16 10:04pm

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Vanity was gorgeous but had no talent! After 5 mins. on stage even the GUYS lost interest in Vanity 6 and were anxious for The Time and of course Prince...

I heard that Prince left Vanity because he suspected she was using drugs again and also over an argument about a movie that she was willing to go topless for.

Do any of us REALLY know? Relationships are complicated

Irresistible bitch - I love the way U walk
Irresistible bitch - I love the way U talk
Irresistible bitch - I really dig the way U kiss
Irresistible - Oh mama, I wish I could resist
Hurt me, hurt me!
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Reply #236 posted 01/28/16 1:18am

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IrresistibleB77 said:

Vanity was gorgeous but had no talent! After 5 mins. on stage even the GUYS lost interest in Vanity 6 and were anxious for The Time and of course Prince...


I heard that Prince left Vanity because he suspected she was using drugs again and also over an argument about a movie that she was willing to go topless for.



Do any of us REALLY know? Relationships are complicated


Maybe, but she's the most favored Prince girl.
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Reply #237 posted 01/28/16 1:20am

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SoulAlive said:

SoulAlive said:



iZsaZsa said:


Vanity left because she wanted more pay? So did Patricia work for Vanity's money or did they pay Apollonia the money Vanity wanted and she could have stayed and we got that 2nd Vanity 6 album?

here is an excerpt from an interview that Denise did several years ago:




As for why she left and didn't do Purple Rain, Denise said one of the reasons was money. She was only being paid $250 a week and Prince wasn't paying her for the tour they went on, or the fact that "Nasty Girl" was such a hit. "Prince was taking all that money and I thought 'you know what? This is adding up to nothing. I'm living out of a hotel-I gotta go' ". When asked if she had regrets about not doing Purple Rain, Matthews said she didn't and revealed that Prince wanted to pay her just $5,000 for the whole movie while she was being offered $300,000 to do ' The Last Dragon' movie. "I said,I'm outta here-that's the best you can do? bye". "It was just to hold me so I couldn't go anywhere. You know what I'm saying, so I couldn't do anything with my life ".




.





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I think,from a business standpoint,she probably made the right decision by leaving.But for my own selfish reasons,I wish she had stayed,done the Purple Rain movie and a second V6 album.If she had done that and then went solo in 1985,she would have been in a much stronger position to launch her solo career.Morris Day wisely stayed and was able to launch his solo career from the hype that the movie generated.His first solo album was very successful while Vanity's 'Wild Animal' album was a flop.

I have to check out her albums.
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Reply #238 posted 01/28/16 1:24am

SoulAlive

let's be honest,though....most of the female Prince proteges don't have amazing voices smile Jill Jones was one of the few who could actually sing.

IrresistibleB77 said:

Vanity was gorgeous but had no talent!

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Reply #239 posted 01/28/16 1:32am

SoulAlive

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I have to check out her albums.

She recorded two solo albums: 'Wild Animal' (1984) and 'Skin On Skin' (1986).

'Wild Animal' is a disappointing album.The production is sterile and her vocals throughout are lousy.The only really good song is "Mechanical Emotion",which is also the only track that has "the Minneapolis sound".It also features Morris Day on the chorus.Songs like "Flippin Out" and "Crazy Maybe" suffer from terrible lyrics (all written by Vanity) and bad vocals.

'Skin On Skin' is a much better album.Motown brought in some songwriters this time and as a result,it's a "real" album this time.The first single,"Under The Influence",is sexy,lush and inviting.....arguably her finest single.On this album,she sounds better vocally.

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