I can't speak for all fans,but I "go crazy" over remasters with bonus tracks.Longtime,hardcore fans live for stuff like this.Bruce Springsteen has just released a 7-disc (!!) remaster of his 1980 the River album.Fleetwood Mac are doing the same with their 1979 'Tusk' album.There is a new remaster of The Beatle's 1 compilation,with videos for every track on a blu-ray that comes with it.Seriously....if you're a fan of an artist and you don't get excited about stuff like this,there is something wrong with you.Prince's problem is that he never looks at things from a fan's perspective.He wants all of his fans to only focus on what he's doing now,but to be honest,his new stuff simply isn't as great as the old stuff.You will say that I'm "living in the past" but I'm OK with that.

Noodled24 said:

Prince doesn't want to celebrate the album. He's happy to play some of the songs on live. I don't see what more is needed. The album doesn't sound terrible. There aren't an awful lot of A-list Purple Rain outtakes.

Every outtake that I have heard from that era is fantastic.And I'm sure that there is some incredible stuff that we don't know about.That's the fun thing about projects like this.Fans get the chance to not only celebrate it,they can hear and enjoy what was left off of it.Can you imagine a Purple Rain 7-disc remastered set (two or three of the discs can be DVDs containing things like Syracuse concert,The legendary 1983 First Avenue performance,etc.).How can you not want something like this??!!

babynoz said:

It's your responsibility to support your allegations with credible sources not somebody else's.

Unless it's a crazy conspiracy theory, of course, in which case everybody else is expected to disprove it. That's how it seems to work around here.

purplethunder3121 said:

murph said:

I'll say it again....The most delusional fan site around....What a miserable fucking place...lol

Yeah, you love it, don't U.

lezama said:

bonatoc said:

Worked up? Who's worked up?

— No, wrong question, sorry —

Who's a celebrity?

When people write page long posts on the org about how Prince doesn't live up to their expectations of how he should conform to their wishes, I'm pretty certain its because they're either mentally unstable, seriously worked up about something, or they're one of his ex's having a breakdown.

Oh, so now we're getting personal. What's wrong with you people?

Can't you have a laugh and accept a vision in one's mind?

Stay with your "pretty certainties", don't U touch nuttin'.

Noodled24 said:

Prince doesn't want to celebrate the album. He's happy to play some of the songs on live. I don't see what more is needed. The album doesn't sound terrible. There aren't an awful lot of A-list Purple Rain outtakes.

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Utter nonsense. They could easily do a ten-disc box sets and still be scratching the surface.

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It's just fans have already convinced themselves that a remaster will be full access to Prince's vaults, followed by a Revolution reunion tour where everything is played exactly as it was in 1984. Not only is it's tragic, and borderline sycophantic, it's never going to happen.

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No, this is BS fams continue to make up.

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If, as was suggested on twitter, he has prepared the Remaster and it's in the hands of WB.

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That was Prince's claim, and he has a long history of lying.

SoulAlive said:

I can't speak for all fans,but I "go crazy" over remasters with bonus tracks.Longtime,hardcore fans live for stuff like this.Bruce Springsteen has just released a 7-disc (!!) remaster of his 1980 the River album.Fleetwood Mac are doing the same with their 1979 'Tusk' album.There is a new remaster of The Beatle's 1 compilation,with videos for every track on a blu-ray that comes with it.Seriously....if you're a fan of an artist and you don't get excited about stuff like this,there is something wrong with you.Prince's problem is that he never looks at things from a fan's perspective.He wants all of his fans to only focus on what he's doing now,but to be honest,his new stuff simply isn't as great as the old stuff.You will say that I'm "living in the past" but I'm OK with that.

The 7-disc remaster of "The River" looks absolutely stunning. I may actually buy this set and I'm not even a Springsteen fan. Just a music lover.

Aerogram said:

bonatoc said:

Before having this kinda useless and evergoing debate, we need to assert what is at stake here, what mattters the most : public recognition, or artistic legacy ?

While not releasing the best of the crop, aforementioned artists release work that sounds a bit freed from the heavy aura their past career carries, a bit liberated from the "responsability" of being Dylan, Springsteen, etc. ...

Skipper looks like he always has to state that he is Prince,
therefore you get the usual sound gimmicks,
the "signature" synth riffs, that goddamn Linn again.
We all know that he is more talented than this. TRC proves it. 3121 and AOA too.
...

Magnificent response, I get that you have exquisite taste, but I argue that the whole concept of taste is shaped by class and race and that extends to the way we view Bowie as cool and Prince has not so cool.

There are so many forces that condition this, only some of them are purely musical. If you look at the pantheon of greatest artists, those that regularly make up the top 100 albums/singles of all time, it's a largely white world. Sure, everyone acknowledges Jimi, JB, MJ, Sly, Marvin, Stevie, Otis, Aretha, Etta. etc.but history and privilege has meant that our construct of what is tasteful and important is a good 80% from people from European ancestry.

The aesthetic we built around taste means that people like David Bowie, Lou Reed, Bob Dylan, The Beatles, the Rolling Stones, the Beach Boys, Joni Mitchell, Neil Young, Willy Nelson, Johnny Cash and others have set most of the standard by which we judge tasteful artistry.

The afro-american tradition of music making for the masses was different. When Gaye tackled social issues in What's Going On, it was after years of (wonderful) but far less ambitious lyrics -- it did not negate his previous catalog but I often think about THE CONDITIONS under which this music was made.

Prince can do Tighten Up, he can do Superstition, Sex Machine, Flashlight, some Zapp and Rogers, then he can switch and sound like the Stones, Jimi, Santana... Then right next he can reference Joni and even evoke the Velvet Underground, but he still wants to make music that make you dance more than it makes you think.

And that, my friend, is the reason why Prince is under appreciated.

I think that in the United States, Prince is seen as cooler than Bowie, be it for PR alone.
He's part of the popular culture, even if the extraordinary burst of creativity that followed PR was left ignored.

If we're talking artistic legacy still, I would have to disagree about bringing racial issues to the table. Most of the white artists you're listing are the first to claim that they learn everything from Little Richard, Chuck Berry, Robert Johnson just to mention the obvious.

I'm not sure Gaye was talking about the state of the industry, but who knows with such a rich record as "What's Going On". I think that on the contrary, his statement was aimed to be universal. "Brother, brother, brother", OK, it can be interpreted as a black thang, but to me it sounds very "unracial".

I know that Prince is a very singular talent (and that's an understatement).

Note that in my rants, you will very rarely read me complaining about his live performances.
Fact is, I'd prefer to have him embarked on a never-ending tour à la Dylan.
He's in the position where he has absolutely nothing to prove anymore, especially on record.
He's one of the very few artists that can claim to have released 4-5 masterpieces in a row.
I know that live, he can do anything.

Underappreciated to the public, that is.
Prince is a musician's musician. A great deal of the musical creativity that surged in the 90's is, in my opinion, directly related to Prince, his work ethic, his home-studio methodology, his risk taking mantra.

Anyone who really cares about music loves or like Prince. I have yet to meet someone who doesn't. In the worst cases, he still gets lots of respect.

bonatoc said:

lezama said:

When people write page long posts on the org about how Prince doesn't live up to their expectations of how he should conform to their wishes, I'm pretty certain its because they're either mentally unstable, seriously worked up about something, or they're one of his ex's having a breakdown.

Oh, so now we're getting personal. What's wrong with you people?

Can't you have a laugh and accept a vision in one's mind?

Stay with your "pretty certainties", don't U touch nuttin'.

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I love those famz who proclaim that writing about Prince in less-than-complimentary ways is deranged, fully ignoring that they're upset at what people they don't know write on the internet about a celebrity. They project their own hurt feelings onto others, and have ridiculous assumptions that are solely based on their own inadequacies. They cannot fathom that others aren't obsessed 24/7 with Prince yet can produce well-considered advice or theories. They demand fealty towards their musical god, and cannot stand opposition. They continue to produce feeble excuses. And the underlying mantra is always the same: Prince cannot fail, he only can be failed. Insulting posts on Prince's official website? "He doesn't control it." His records fail to sell? "Nobody is selling well." Prince does something idiotic? "He's a maverick."

pdiddy2011 said:

bonatoc said:

Before having this kinda useless and evergoing debate, we need to assert what is at stake here, what mattters the most : public recognition, or artistic legacy ?

While not releasing the best of the crop, aforementioned artists release work that sounds a bit freed from the heavy aura their past career carries, a bit liberated from the "responsability" of being Dylan, Springsteen, etc. ...

Skipper looks like he always has to state that he is Prince,
therefore you get the usual sound gimmicks,
the "signature" synth riffs, that goddamn Linn again.
We all know that he is more talented than this. TRC proves it. 3121 and AOA too.
...

I think you're just a rabble-rouser. (Along with BartVanHemelen)

I'm not sure any of your rant is based in anything other than well-worn cliches and personal preference. "He always has to state he's Prince. He could have had a new and exciting career as a jazz club performer. He's an egomaniac. He has a fear of aging."

Please send me a link to your music. I'd love to hear it. What have you done for 40 years that is internationally known or recognized? You want to kick someone else in the nuts because his music doesn't meet your aristocratic standards? Please. You seem to be the one with the ego problem.

You're just another bully trying to tell people what they shouldn't like. All those words and you've only convinced me that you think too highly of your own opinion. What a blowhard!

You're comparing me to Bart? That's a compliment, my friend!

What's my music got to do with it? Did Lester Bangs (keep calm, I'm mentioning him) have to practice his guitar for two hours before writing about Lou Reed?

I'm sorry I'm too verbose for you. But you have a mousewheel my friend.
Feel free to skip my Skipper's bashings.

People like shit, my friend, and that's a problem going back to the caves.
People lack culture and feel entitled to talk about music, without the sufficent knowledge to appreciate or disappreciate it. But I wouldn't trade the popular aspect of music for nothing in the world. Art is meant to be democratic.

And since this is a democratic site, I feel entitled to praise or rant about Skipper as long as I like, and as the moderators allow me to.

If you think your opinion doesn't count, that's your problem, not mine. Yes, I like to think that when I press "Post response", I leave food for thought. With you, it's more like "Pearls Be4 The Swine", my friend.

Aerogram said:

bonatoc said:

Before having this kinda useless and evergoing debate, we need to assert what is at stake here, what mattters the most : public recognition, or artistic legacy ?

While not releasing the best of the crop, aforementioned artists release work that sounds a bit freed from the heavy aura their past career carries, a bit liberated from the "responsability" of being Dylan, Springsteen, etc. ...

Skipper looks like he always has to state that he is Prince,
therefore you get the usual sound gimmicks,
the "signature" synth riffs, that goddamn Linn again.
We all know that he is more talented than this. TRC proves it. 3121 and AOA too.


TRC was a real hope to see the beginning of a new and exciting career as a Jazz club performer.
Most of his compositions could stand intellectual treatments, sophisticated arrangements.
OK, he does small clubs. But not with a purpose.
It feels like he still needs to show off to be happy. A real egomaniac.

The "Slowed down" LRC version that surfaced ca. Montreux is alright,
but you've got to admit that once the surprise has passed,
it just sounds like he overdoes it.
I mean this new arrangement isn't great to the point where one feels entitled
to make the crowd chant "slow down!" for 4 or 5 minutes.
It's not Jeff Buckley singing Hallelujah.
The exchange with the public would have been perfect for one minute.
When you listen to these looong ad-lib minutes again,
it's embarassing, both for Prince and the crowd.
It's just a layered synth pad over 3 basic chords,
there's no reason for Skipper to sound so affected.
It sounds like a pose.
And that's the whole problem with this self-referencing habit he's grown accustomed to.
One just cringes.


That's an ego problem, or fear of ageing,
I don't know what's wrong.
But going to The Vault, and coming back with "If I Could Get Your Attention"...
Something does not compute.
Trust me, I'm very far of being a naysayer when it comes to this song.
This one I find myself periodically humming to myself for the last 20 years, so...

What is absurd, is that a chord structure so simple (C, F, C, F, etc.) is just perfect
for the raw enthusiasm of the 3rd Eye Girl Band.
We've been waiting almost 30 years for the killer Guitar Solo
the Taja version was trying to aim.
But no, we get 2001 Daft Punk autotuned vocoder, and since Skipper
does not listen to records but his own, Josh' photocopied production idea
sounds as an innovation to his untrained ears (if Vocoder was something new, that is).
Get back to your Joni and Kate records, Skipper, you need a brainwash.

Utlimately I think, but it has been stated many times before,
that someone who based, willingly or unwillingly, most of his work on provocation,
social disruption if you will, needs friction to give his best.

That is why the WB Wars era is so interesting.
It put him in the same situation of Dirty Mind, where there was a radical urge
to be anti-establishement, be it in the songs or in the attitude
(and Skipper seldom makes a distinction).


But hey, we had yawning periods before.
There's no indication that he won't quit that self-referencing, self-quoting habit.

If he really manages to stick to the improvisation plan,
if it's not a lie and he does not have the band enter after a short acoustic medley,
if he really gets into an hour of just him and an acoustic instrument,
show after show, then I think it's going to do him good.

It's going to get him back to his roots.

It's a disservice you do to the man by praising him no matter what.
That's the problem with fame. Even if the forthcoming acoustic sets turn out to be mediocre,
You'll always have the zealots applauding like crazy,
and dumb Ol' Skipper will think he's doing great,
and as a result we'll get no invention, no risk taking.

An artist NEEDS a kick in the nuts.
Especially when he is a natural.

Magnificent response, I get that you have exquisite taste, but I argue that the whole concept of taste is shaped by class and race and that extends to the way we view Bowie as cool and Prince has not so cool.

There are so many forces that condition this, only some of them are purely musical. If you look at the pantheon of greatest artists, those that regularly make up the top 100 albums/singles of all time, it's a largely white world. Sure, everyone acknowledges Jimi, JB, MJ, Sly, Marvin, Stevie, Otis, Aretha, Etta. etc.but history and privilege has meant that our construct of what is tasteful and important is a good 80% from people from European ancestry.

The aesthetic we built around taste means that people like David Bowie, Lou Reed, Bob Dylan, The Beatles, the Rolling Stones, the Beach Boys, Joni Mitchell, Neil Young, Willy Nelson, Johnny Cash and others have set most of the standard by which we judge tasteful artistry.

The afro-american tradition of music making for the masses was different. When Gaye tackled social issues in What's Going On, it was after years of (wonderful) but far less ambitious lyrics -- it did not negate his previous catalog but I often think about THE CONDITIONS under which this music was made.

Prince can do Tighten Up, he can do Superstition, Sex Machine, Flashlight, some Zapp and Rogers, then he can switch and sound like the Stones, Jimi, Santana... Then right next he can reference Joni and even evoke the Velvet Underground, but he still wants to make music that make you dance more than it makes you think.

And that, my friend, is the reason why Prince is under appreciated.

i would love to sit in a room and hear you all have this discussion. interesting

BartVanHemelen said:

bonatoc said:

BartVanHemelen said:

bonatoc said:

Oh, so now we're getting personal. What's wrong with you people?

Can't you have a laugh and accept a vision in one's mind?

Stay with your "pretty certainties", don't U touch nuttin'.

.

I love those famz who proclaim that writing about Prince in less-than-complimentary ways is deranged, fully ignoring that they're upset at what people they don't know write on the internet about a celebrity. They project their own hurt feelings onto others, and have ridiculous assumptions that are solely based on their own inadequacies. They cannot fathom that others aren't obsessed 24/7 with Prince yet can produce well-considered advice or theories. They demand fealty towards their musical god, and cannot stand opposition. They continue to produce feeble excuses. And the underlying mantra is always the same: Prince cannot fail, he only can be failed. Insulting posts on Prince's official website? "He doesn't control it." His records fail to sell? "Nobody is selling well." Prince does something idiotic? "He's a maverick."

Prince is certainly not above criticism....Hell, I've criticized him....But when u find yourself on a Prince fan site and 99 percent of your posts are of the "let's rip on the Midget" session while the remaining 1 percent is "LET ME SHOW U HOW BRILLIANT I AM, AND HOW DUMB U SILLY FAMS ARE..." then yeah, people are going to feel some type of way...

Trust me Bart...People are not getting on you because u r offering up some sobering, life changing truth about Prince that hardcore Prince believers DON'T want to hear....They are getting at you because you do so with a mean spirited, elitist, at times flagrant, assholish attitude...

U've been able to gain a few backers on this site because the Org, for all intents and purposes, is no longer a place where Prince fans can well....just be Prince fans and debate, enjoy and critique his music....Those people have left in droves....

It is now a place where folks bitch and moan incessantly when Prince announces that he going to do an acoustic Euro piano gig--complete with a running down of how Prince will undoubtedly fuck up the set list, even without hitting the first note....

You should be happy with the miserable state of the Org....Congrats....This is your baby....

[Edited 11/11/15 5:36am]

murph said:

iZsaZsa said:

murph said:

You should be happy with the miserable state of the Org....Congrats....This is your baby....

Yeah. Not me though. I don't like Bart.

Bart's sycophants on this site r growing...

But the truth is this is not about disliking or liking Bart or anyone else...I don't know the man other than what he posts on the Org...So I can't say that I like or dislike him....

What I will say is I find his act to be at times brazenly disrespectful to posters and tiring....

Other than that, there is no beef. I just want people to chill with talking down to folks like they got the cure for cancer....

[Edited 11/11/15 6:01am]

murph said:

iZsaZsa said:

murph said: Yeah. Not me though. I don't like Bart.

Bart's sycophants on this site r growing...

But the truth is this not about disliking or liking Bart or anyone else...I don't know the man other than what he posts on the Org...So I can't say that I like or dislike him....

What I will say is I find his act to be at times brazenly disrespectful to posters and tiring....

Other than that, there is no beef. I just want people to chill with talking down to folks like they got the cure for cancer....

If bart gets on your nerves so much, why don't you just ignore and dont reply. Peace.

Guitarhero said:

murph said:

Bart's sycophants on this site r growing...

But the truth is this not about disliking or liking Bart or anyone else...I don't know the man other than what he posts on the Org...So I can't say that I like or dislike him....

What I will say is I find his act to be at times brazenly disrespectful to posters and tiring....

Other than that, there is no beef. I just want people to chill with talking down to folks like they got the cure for cancer....

If bart gets on your nerves so much, why don't you just ignore and dont reply. Peace.

Getting on my nerves? Bart is not my spouse...lol

It's bigger than Bart...It's about how people r being treated on this site....The Org has become a haven for lil Barts...There seems to be little respect..It's no longer enjoyable when real criticism has transformed into making Prince fans feel like they are idiots for supproting Prince on a Prince fansite....

How crazy is that?

[Edited 11/11/15 6:10am]

BartVanHemelen said:

bonatoc said:

Oh, so now we're getting personal. What's wrong with you people?

Can't you have a laugh and accept a vision in one's mind?

Stay with your "pretty certainties", don't U touch nuttin'.

.

I love those famz who proclaim that writing about Prince in less-than-complimentary ways is deranged, fully ignoring that they're upset at what people they don't know write on the internet about a celebrity. They project their own hurt feelings onto others, and have ridiculous assumptions that are solely based on their own inadequacies. They cannot fathom that others aren't obsessed 24/7 with Prince yet can produce well-considered advice or theories. They demand fealty towards their musical god, and cannot stand opposition. They continue to produce feeble excuses. And the underlying mantra is always the same: Prince cannot fail, he only can be failed. Insulting posts on Prince's official website? "He doesn't control it." His records fail to sell? "Nobody is selling well." Prince does something idiotic? "He's a maverick."

I guess this is as good a time as any to remind you that you have only ONE (1) opinion on all things Prince post 1995: it's terrible.

So whoever you're criticizing, their views are more complex than yours with perhaps the exception of Kcool.

iZsaZsa said:

bonatoc said:

You're comparing me to Bart? That's a compliment, my friend!

I figured that that's only what some of you want. To be Bart.

Bonatoc is an entirely different animal, he's a Swiss Army knife compared to Bart's dull butter knife.

I don't agree with him half the time, but he's very eloquent and a pleasure to read.

Bart brings up interesting information but his opinions couldn't be more predictable. He's like that uncle who is always ranting about how all politicians are crooks:

- Uncle Bartie, can you pass the salt?

- Damn those politicians, the price of salt is so high.

- I just want the salt.... and the pepper.

- Pepper's expensive too -- those damn politicians!

- Pass them please!

- There you go... don't blame me if you clog your arteries and end up needing state-sponsored health care designed to kill you quicker so the politicians can fill their pockets.

- Thank you Uncle Bartie!

murph said:

Aerogram said:

BartVanHemelen said:

bonatoc said:

Oh, so now we're getting personal. What's wrong with you people?

Can't you have a laugh and accept a vision in one's mind?

Stay with your "pretty certainties", don't U touch nuttin'.

.

I love those famz who proclaim that writing about Prince in less-than-complimentary ways is deranged, fully ignoring that they're upset at what people they don't know write on the internet about a celebrity. They project their own hurt feelings onto others, and have ridiculous assumptions that are solely based on their own inadequacies. They cannot fathom that others aren't obsessed 24/7 with Prince yet can produce well-considered advice or theories. They demand fealty towards their musical god, and cannot stand opposition. They continue to produce feeble excuses. And the underlying mantra is always the same: Prince cannot fail, he only can be failed. Insulting posts on Prince's official website? "He doesn't control it." His records fail to sell? "Nobody is selling well." Prince does something idiotic? "He's a maverick."

Are you describing yourself?

Arent you just as obsessed with Prince? Are you really going to act like you're not obsessed? and can't stand it when people post positive opinions.

You say somethings that make sense, but you also say things that are not entirely true and try to pass it off as fact.

How long have you been posting negative things non-stop about Prince. Just think about if you knew someone who spents over a decade talking about someone negatively. that sound normal to you?

I'm not attacking you personally, just saying that when you post things in bold you should look at yourself first.

iZsaZsa said:

murph said:

Bart's sycophants on this site r growing...

But the truth is this is not about disliking or liking Bart or anyone else...I don't know the man other than what he posts on the Org...So I can't say that I like or dislike him....

What I will say is I find his act to be at times brazenly disrespectful to posters and tiring....

Other than that, there is no beef. I just want people to chill with talking down to folks like they got the cure for cancer....

[Edited 11/11/15 6:01am]

Don't defend him to me!

lol.....

Aerogram said:

iZsaZsa said:

bonatoc said: I figured that that's only what some of you want. To be Bart.

Bonatoc is an entirely different animal, he's a Swiss Army knife compared to Bart's dull butter knife.

I don't agree with him half the time, but he's very eloquent and a pleasure to read.

Bart brings up interesting information but his opinions couldn't be more predictable. He's like that uncle who is always ranting about how all politicians are crooks:

- Uncle Bartie, can you pass the salt?

- Damn those politicians, the price of salt is so high.

- I just want the salt.... and the pepper.

- Pepper's expensive too -- those damn politicians!

- Pass them please!

- There you go... don't blame me if you clog your arteries and end up needing state-sponsored health care designed to kill you quicker so the politicians can fill their pockets.

- Thank you Uncle Bartie!

Basically.....

So off topic now.. isn't it?

I believe its time now for that.....

I will ask the mods for a lock.. peace & positivity.. 2 all of u sexxy motherfuckers...

Don't hate on me because of this socalled "critical" thread...

thedance said:

So off topic now.. isn't it?

I believe its time now for that.....

I will ask the mods for a lock.. peace & positivity.. 2 all of u sexxy motherfuckers...

Don't hate on me because of this socalled "critical" thread...

it's funny u were giving me a hard time in my threads whenever i talked about prince album sales, yet u base this whole thread about how his recent albums sold nothing...

BartVanHemelen said:

bonatoc said:

Oh, so now we're getting personal. What's wrong with you people?

Can't you have a laugh and accept a vision in one's mind?

Stay with your "pretty certainties", don't U touch nuttin'.

.

I love those famz who proclaim that writing about Prince in less-than-complimentary ways is deranged, fully ignoring that they're upset at what people they don't know write on the internet about a celebrity. They project their own hurt feelings onto others, and have ridiculous assumptions that are solely based on their own inadequacies. They cannot fathom that others aren't obsessed 24/7 with Prince yet can produce well-considered advice or theories. They demand fealty towards their musical god, and cannot stand opposition. They continue to produce feeble excuses. And the underlying mantra is always the same: Prince cannot fail, he only can be failed. Insulting posts on Prince's official website? "He doesn't control it." His records fail to sell? "Nobody is selling well." Prince does something idiotic? "He's a maverick."

You misread. There's a quote I really like by Theodore Roosevelt about "critics who are not in the arena themselves" that you should look up. Critique is fine, as long as it's not accompanied with self-righteousness of someone who doesn't create, who isn't themselves in the spotlight risking the reputation, their money, they fanbase with every action, acting as if, from the sidelines they're somehow better than this person in the spotlight who very often fucks up.. The question is NEVER whether someone is perfect or ideal, because no one is. The question is who the hell are you? Im not perfect enough to stand from the sidelines and critique people doing 1000x more than I am. I'm not a fam, I just try my best to be rational.. and humble.

thedance said:

Well Prince can fill a stadium and play live no problem...


Talking albums though... Prince's career is running badly.

I don't have the figures for Art Official Age and Hit N Run.



But..... Prince is selling zero copies, afaik...


Can it get "any worse"?

Is he desperate, or does he have a plan.....?


Take a guess, what do you think will happen in the near future, has he given up..

[Edited 11/8/15 4:36am]

This anti-Corbyn histeria is getting out of hand