JudasLChrist said:

bashraka said:

It's almost as if certain people want to speak into existence that Prince is gay to satisfy their delusional fantasies. Some people just aren't happy until they can smudge someone's character.

Excuse me, but everything I said is true, and none of it 'smudges' Prince's character. That's your own prejudice.

Riiiight. And me and Prince were running drugs from Paisley Park to keep Paisley Park from going bankrupt. I love how folks scream "homophobia" when their conjecture gets challenged and put into question. If someone yelled "this guy killed so-and-so" in front of police officers and because the guy might fit the description and gets arrested, then later tell the cops that he was only joking. Even if he's cleared, the guy will never be seen the same way again. It's cowardly and unethical but hey anything for the sake of a laugh, right?

bashraka said:

JudasLChrist said:

MotownSubdivision said:

JudasLChrist said:

MotownSubdivision said:

Are homosexuals these perfect deities who are above criticism or something? Gays make mistakes and do stupid things just like the rest of us humans. Calling out someone who happens to be homosexual for doing something wrong isn't homophobia.

Calling out someone who has done something wrong is fine. But Boy told an off the cuff joke in a setting where he was expected to improvise. He really didn't do anything 'wrong', and it's actually difficult to come up with a scenario from this where he DID do something wrong. The homophobia part comes when people make the angry denunciations, complaining that the merest inference that Prince is anything other than 100% heterosexual is 'slander', and more. It's all very telling.

"Boy told an off the cuff joke in a setting where he was expected to improvise". If he was expected to improvise a joke then Boy George is also dim witted. What's interesting is that if Prince was in the same position he would have found a way to retort with a joke that was witty without name-dropping and casting aspersions on someone's orientation for the sake of a laugh at someone's expense. I guess Boy George figured since I can't get Prince in the same room as me, I'll make Prince's name appear in the same headline as me, since that's the only way, Boy George would ever make headlines nowadays.

JediMaster said:

I'm hardly a fan of Boy George, but he really just made a goofy joke. It's the paper that really is in the wrong here, since they deliberately made a headline that was designed to be provocative and misleading. As anyone who knows more than a couple of gay men can tell you, this kind of comment is just meant to be silly and get a reaction. I'm not saying ALL gay men make jokes like this, but it's not uncommon in their culture. He was obviously joking, and the newspaper decided to make it into a salacious headline

I agree completely, Boy George was just having a bit of fun with a salacious joke, it's the fucking Daily Mail which is deliberately misleading people with the headline. I guess you could argue that they're merely replicating the manner in which the joke was told by first giving us the "I slept with Prince" shock comment before qualifying it later with "it was just a poster", but given that many people don't read past the headline, as others have pointed out here, this is irresponsible journalism at best.

Oh, and yeah, this is silly, let's move on everyone

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RJOrion said:

The word "phobia" implies fear of...the people that speak against homosexuality arent scared of it...they just dont condone it for one reason or another...the word "homophobia" doesnt even apply to most people who disapprove of the lifestyle

I agree.

i need to borrow kcool's super eye roll for the homophobes in this thread. You guys need to listen to what JudasLChrist is saying and adjust your views on homosexuality. It's definitely on you to be more accepting of gays and not on Boy George to stop "casting aspersions".

RJOrion said:

The word "phobia" implies fear of...the people that speak against homosexuality arent scared of it...they just dont condone it for one reason or another...the word "homophobia" doesnt even apply to most people who disapprove of the lifestyle

Stop using the word lifestyle. Out of all the homophobic remarks that is the most insulting: you cannot refer to the nature of people as their 'lifestyle'.

fusk said:

i need to borrow kcool's super eye roll for the homophobes in this thread. You guys need to listen to what JudasLChrist is saying and adjust your views on homosexuality. It's definitely on you to be more accepting of gays and not on Boy George to stop "casting aspersions".

When people can stop hiding behind terms like "homophobic" for crass remarks the world will be better for it. At this point, "homophobic" has become the new "Only God Can Judge Me". Whenever someone says or does something they have no business doing, the first thing that I will sometimes is "who are you to judge me", "only God can judge me" etc. Personal responsiblity is not a hetero or gay thing-it's a human thing.

babynoz said:

babynoz said:

So if I'm a female and I corrected someone who publically stated that I was really a male, would that make me sexist?

Dumb logic.

what are you blabbig about? If Prince wants to make a statement 'correcting' this claim that Boy George didn't make, he can go ahead.

What is babbig?

a typo, thanks for picking up on it

Don't try to move the goalpost now. You are implying that anybody who criticized Boy George's irresponsible statement is doing so because he's gay and I gave an example of how dumb that logic is....GTFOOHWTBS.

Your example made no sense both because Prince hasn't publicly corrected Boy George and because questioning someones sexuality and questioning someones gender are different things.

I never said that Prince was correcting Boy George. I'm talking about the people on this thread correcting him for his irresponsible so called jokes.

I'm correcting you for automatically slapping an anti gay label on anybody who's criticizing Boy George's assholery. And the example stands.

Back in the 80's people started rumors that Donna Summer was really a man. Does objecting to that rumor make someone sexist?

You must have missed the thread last year when some d-list chick called Lil' Mo made an untrue statement about Prince at the Essence Festival and got dragged to within an inch of her life on her instagram. Did that happen because she was gay?

A person is either telling the truth or they are not, regardless of their orientation....period, end of.

Don't pretend to be ignorant of the multitude of threads about the many females that Prince may or may not have slept with....stop acting brand new.

Hey listen, i'm as sure as anyone else that Boy George wasn't telling the truth. If this is just about being factually correct then lets leave it be, we're in agreement.

Cut out the knee-jerk labeling of everybody as homophobic then.


You also did a helluva job screwing up the quoting.

bashraka said:

fusk said:

i need to borrow kcool's super eye roll for the homophobes in this thread. You guys need to listen to what JudasLChrist is saying and adjust your views on homosexuality. It's definitely on you to be more accepting of gays and not on Boy George to stop "casting aspersions".

When people can stop hiding behind terms like "homophobic" for crass remarks the world will be better for it. At this point, "homophobic" has become the new "Only God Can Judge Me". Whenever someone says or does something they have no business doing, the first thing that I will sometimes is "who are you to judge me", "only God can judge me" etc. Personal responsiblity is not a hetero or gay thing-it's a human thing.

It seems like you're the one doing the hiding by trying to say it's not about homosexuality when it's clear you think being gay is bad and it's clear that's why you're upset. You've never outright said that you think being gay is bad, but it really seems like that's what you think. THAT is hiding.

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bashraka said:

JudasLChrist said:

bashraka said: Excuse me, but everything I said is true, and none of it 'smudges' Prince's character. That's your own prejudice.

Riiiight. And me and Prince were running drugs from Paisley Park to keep Paisley Park from going bankrupt. I love how folks scream "homophobia" when their conjecture gets challenged and put into question. If someone yelled "this guy killed so-and-so" in front of police officers and because the guy might fit the description and gets arrested, then later tell the cops that he was only joking. Even if he's cleared, the guy will never be seen the same way again. It's cowardly and unethical but hey anything for the sake of a laugh, right?

LMAO!

Not only that, Prince is really Batman and the Vault is really a bat-cave.

Honest....I saw with my own eyes in back in the 80s.

jtfolden said:

fusk said:

If an attractive woman made the same joke I'm sure nobody would care. This issue clearly has SOMETHING to do with the fact that Boy George is talking about GAY sex.

EXACTLY. Nobody would be saying they hope Prince sues if it had been a woman making the joke...

Like I already said, last year Lil' Mo got her ass handed to her for her comments and she's a woman, so there's goes that theory.


I guess Imma have to show y'all....smh.


http://prince.org/msg/7/408874

fusk said:

bashraka said:

When people can stop hiding behind terms like "homophobic" for crass remarks the world will be better for it. At this point, "homophobic" has become the new "Only God Can Judge Me". Whenever someone says or does something they have no business doing, the first thing that I will sometimes is "who are you to judge me", "only God can judge me" etc. Personal responsiblity is not a hetero or gay thing-it's a human thing.

It seems like you're the one doing the hiding by trying to say it's not about homosexuality when it's clear you think being gay is bad and it's clear that's why you're upset. You've never outright said that you think being gay is bad, but it really seems like that's what you think. THAT is hiding.

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You have only proven my point. If a man regardless of orientation said something that wasn't true in the guise of a joke about another man, much worse would happen than caping for the man that said the joke. No point of arguing with you because regardless of what I say, you will turn your response into a GLAAD crusade for a guy who is a celebrity troll for press no matter how dishonorable it is.

NorthC said:

Y'all are taking this waaaaay too seriously.

I think the situation was escalated by the people who started making knee jerk ASSumptions and accusations. Apparently Boy George is above reproach.

It's stupid because I like Boy George just as much as I did yesterday and I will tomorrow, even though he said something dumb for shock value. I'm just a person who happens to be sick and tired of that particular trend.

WOULDNT SURPRISE ME in fact i believe it [snip - seriously inflammatory - M]

vainandy said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

would NEVER sleep with such an effeminate man like that...

You got that right. Prince is fish. He wants a real man.

LOL...well, he damn sure wouldn't want one who was butt-ugly like Boy George. Prince likes exotic looking ladies and if he were going the other way it would be no different.

babynoz said:

vainandy said:

You got that right. Prince is fish. He wants a real man.

LOL...well, he damn sure wouldn't want one who was butt-ugly like Boy George. Prince likes exotic looking ladies and if he were going the other way it would be no different.

purplethunder3121 said:

babynoz said:

LOL...well, he damn sure wouldn't want one who was butt-ugly like Boy George. Prince likes exotic looking ladies and if he were going the other way it would be no different.

Exactly...Prince wouldn't touch that with somebody else's,

babynoz said:

RJOrion said:

The word "phobia" implies fear of...the people that speak against homosexuality arent scared of it...they just dont condone it for one reason or another...the word "homophobia" doesnt even apply to most people who disapprove of the lifestyle

I think condemnation happens becasue of fear. You see that in the rhetoric that people use talking about how much 'damage' this 'slander' will do, etc... One doesn't get a pass on bigotry merely because they think they are being rational or ethical. Alternately, we could use the word heterosexism to talk about the same stuff.

Graycap23 said:

babynoz said:

It's an increasingly popular tactic amongst D-listers these days. Everything is staged and scripted to manufacture drama. Only chumps still fall for it.

When Prince did his Pfunk song to the PFU collective he said "The only reason you say my name is to get your 15 seconds of fame."

It's not a scandal....it's a stunt, period, end of.

No doubt. The same weak ass tactic is even used here on the org. U can't get any responses to your post so what is the best thing 2 do? Drop someone's name seeking a response 2 get attention.

LOL....I long for the days when entertainers mostly relied on their actual talents to get noticed.

JudasLChrist said:

RJOrion said:

The word "phobia" implies fear of...the people that speak against homosexuality arent scared of it...they just dont condone it for one reason or another...the word "homophobia" doesnt even apply to most people who disapprove of the lifestyle

I think condemnation happens becasue of fear. You see that in the rhetoric that people use talking about how much 'damage' this 'slander' will do, etc... One doesn't get a pass on bigotry merely because they think they are being rational or ethical. Alternately, we could use the word heterosexism to talk about the same stuff.

To say condemnation happens because of fear is to have a very vague understanding of condemnation and shows that someone can't see beyond their own convictions

Thizz said:

JudasLChrist said:

I think condemnation happens becasue of fear. You see that in the rhetoric that people use talking about how much 'damage' this 'slander' will do, etc... One doesn't get a pass on bigotry merely because they think they are being rational or ethical. Alternately, we could use the word heterosexism to talk about the same stuff.

To say condemnation happens because of fear is to have a very vague understanding of condemnation and shows that someone can't see beyond their own convictions

Again, you don't get a pass for your bigotry.

JudasLChrist said:

Thizz said:

To say condemnation happens because of fear is to have a very vague understanding of condemnation and shows that someone can't see beyond their own convictions

Again, you don't get a pass for your bigotry.

How come Prince got a pass for his?

bashraka said:

fusk said:

It seems like you're the one doing the hiding by trying to say it's not about homosexuality when it's clear you think being gay is bad and it's clear that's why you're upset. You've never outright said that you think being gay is bad, but it really seems like that's what you think. THAT is hiding.

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You have only proven my point. If a man regardless of orientation said something that wasn't true in the guise of a joke about another man, much worse would happen than caping for the man that said the joke. No point of arguing with you because regardless of what I say, you will turn your response into a GLAAD crusade for a guy who is a celebrity troll for press no matter how dishonorable it is.

If read literally, this statement is just false. People make jokes that aren't true all the time, and no feelings get hurt. I think you know this and I think you meant to write something else. Say what you mean.

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babynoz said:

Graycap23 said:

No doubt. The same weak ass tactic is even used here on the org. U can't get any responses to your post so what is the best thing 2 do? Drop someone's name seeking a response 2 get attention.

LOL....I long for the days when entertainers mostly relied on their actual talents to get noticed.

Wouldn't that be nice......