Sadly, the URBAN AC CHARTS has no influence at all on the BB 200. Remember when TCBU was released on radio. AOA was already out of the BB 200, but stayed on the rnb charts. When TCBU REACHED THE TOP 40 urban AC, AOA disappeared from the rnb charts.

When TCBU reached his peak (something like #27 IIRC for weeks) AOA didn't enter the rnb charts again.

It's as if listening to TCBU discouraged people from buying AOA.

The more the people will heard 1000 Xs and Qs, the less they will buy HITNRUN.

RODSERLING said:

laurarichardson said:

RODSERLING said:

Sadly, the URBAN AC CHARTS has no influence at all on the BB 200. Remember when TCBU was released on radio. AOA was already out of the BB 200, but stayed on the rnb charts. When TCBU REACHED THE TOP 40 urban AC, AOA disappeared from the rnb charts.

When TCBU reached his peak (something like #27 IIRC for weeks) AOA didn't enter the rnb charts again.

It's as if listening to TCBU discouraged people from buying AOA.

The more the people will heard 1000 Xs and Qs, the less they will buy HITNRUN.

/// Hit and Run is an RnB cd and so is 1000 X and O's. Why should anyone be concerned about this recording making it on the pop charts when it is not a pop record and how many 50 something black men are on the pop charts?

I'm sorry I don't understand your point. My point is that, ranking in the bottom or in the middle of the UAC charts, has no influence on sales, at least concerning Prince. TCBU is the recent proof of that.

Look at the actual UAC charts below :

http://mediabase.com/mmrw...format=U2R

These artists doesn't sell anymore. So they are heard on the radio for a small portion of the population, but this population doesn't buy nor their albums, neither their singles. So, no positive effect on the charts at all, safe maybe for the top 5.

JANET is still #1 with a track that was a flop on the HOT 100 last summer, she will have hard time to sell his new album.

dodger said:

RODSERLING said:

laurarichardson said:

RODSERLING said: /// Hit and Run is an RnB cd and so is 1000 X and O's. Why should anyone be concerned about this recording making it on the pop charts when it is not a pop record and how many 50 something black men are on the pop charts?

I'm sorry I don't understand your point. My point is that, ranking in the bottom or in the middle of the UAC charts, has no influence on sales, at least concerning Prince. TCBU is the recent proof of that.

Look at the actual UAC charts below :

http://mediabase.com/mmrw...format=U2R

These artists doesn't sell anymore. So they are heard on the radio for a small portion of the population, but this population doesn't buy nor their albums, neither their singles. So, no positive effect on the charts at all, safe maybe for the top 5.

JANET is still #1 with a track that was a flop on the HOT 100 last summer, she will have hard time to sell his new album.

who gives a fuck..i've never listened to a song and cared about what itr sold...You arent in his pockets,

dodger said:

BobGeorge909 said:

Genesia said: Shut up with your stupid romantic foolishness...and NO! I'm NOT jealous! J/k..., that's sweet. [Edited 9/29/15 13:53pm]

My guess is Bob is married (I feel your pain) and Genesia is loved up in a new relationship

After 24 years, it's still (and always) new.



Now, be jealous.

BobGeorge909 said:

Genesia said:

Aerogram said:

lezama said:

You're thinking of RNRLA..

So are we just going by "everyone playolas, so Prince most certainly playolaed" assumption or you guys know for a fact?

I always thought there was a bit of a hole in all this since I guess Lady Gaga could have bought herself a couple of decent hits the last time she released something EDM.

[Edited 9/29/15 20:07pm]

I'm talking about the deal with ClearChannel. It wasn't payola.

dodger said:

lwr001 said:

RODSERLING said:

I'm sorry I don't understand your point. My point is that, ranking in the bottom or in the middle of the UAC charts, has no influence on sales, at least concerning Prince. TCBU is the recent proof of that.

Look at the actual UAC charts below :

http://mediabase.com/mmrw...format=U2R

These artists doesn't sell anymore. So they are heard on the radio for a small portion of the population, but this population doesn't buy nor their albums, neither their singles. So, no positive effect on the charts at all, safe maybe for the top 5.

JANET is still #1 with a track that was a flop on the HOT 100 last summer, she will have hard time to sell his new album.

who gives a fuck..i've never listened to a song and cared about what itr sold...You arent in his pockets,

RODSERLING said:

1000 X`s and O`s is moving up the urban ac charts...

From # 66 to # 32

http://fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=255619

[Edited 10/4/15 2:41am]

laurarichardson said:

RODSERLING said:

I'm sorry I don't understand your point. My point is that, ranking in the bottom or in the middle of the UAC charts, has no influence on sales, at least concerning Prince. TCBU is the recent proof of that.

Look at the actual UAC charts below :

http://mediabase.com/mmrw...format=U2R

These artists doesn't sell anymore. So they are heard on the radio for a small portion of the population, but this population doesn't buy nor their albums, neither their singles. So, no positive effect on the charts at all, safe maybe for the top 5.

JANET is still #1 with a track that was a flop on the HOT 100 last summer, she will have hard time to sell his new album.

////One sale is a sale so stop saying no one is buying these CDs. Next more people in these so called populations would buy if urban radio would play legacy artist. These artist do well on the concert circuit so their is a population that is interested. I also would like to point out that sales are lousy for all genres of music and I am not sure why you keep hammering on how bad P is doing when loads of other acts are struggling with sales. Maybe P is done on all the charts but he had a hell of ride and he is still making into the RnB Top Ten and that counts to RnB fans.

A sale is a sale, but look a the facts : in 3 weeks, HNR sold only 20.000 ex in the USA. You can call that"nobody". That is very low, even for an independant release. Prince is supposed to be a huge brand. Even here on the org, most of the orgers didn't buy the album. Nobody cares much.

Sales are not lousy for every kind of music, there are thousands album this year that sold better than HNR, with even no promotion at all.

Once again look at the facts : next week HNR will be out of the BB 200, while 1000Xs and X's will climb higher in the UAC. That's why I say that UAC has no effect at all on the BB 200, because it's true. I don't care about rnb or rock fans, even Prince's fans didn't buy the album.

1000X's and X's entered the weekly UAC at #29 this week. Currently, it is at #26 on the daily chart, its peak.

RODSERLING said:

laurarichardson said:

RODSERLING said: ////One sale is a sale so stop saying no one is buying these CDs. Next more people in these so called populations would buy if urban radio would play legacy artist. These artist do well on the concert circuit so their is a population that is interested. I also would like to point out that sales are lousy for all genres of music and I am not sure why you keep hammering on how bad P is doing when loads of other acts are struggling with sales. Maybe P is done on all the charts but he had a hell of ride and he is still making into the RnB Top Ten and that counts to RnB fans.

A sale is a sale, but look a the facts : in 3 weeks, HNR sold only 20.000 ex in the USA. You can call that"nobody". That is very low, even for an independant release. Prince is supposed to be a huge brand. Even here on the org, most of the orgers didn't buy the album. Nobody cares much.

Sales are not lousy for every kind of music, there are thousands album this year that sold better than HNR, with even no promotion at all.

Once again look at the facts : next week HNR will be out of the BB 200, while 1000Xs and X's will climb higher in the UAC. That's why I say that UAC has no effect at all on the BB 200, because it's true. I don't care about rnb or rock fans, even Prince's fans didn't buy the album.

of course #25 on Urban AC has minimal impact on album sales, that's 164 spins in the entire country and a total audience of just over 1 million people, contrast that with #1 pop song that has 17377 spins and an audiance of veor 100 million people. That doesn't mean there isn't any impact or wouldn't be more impact if he can somehow climb into the top 5 or 10 and even more impact if he could cross over to either the Urban chart or the Pop chart. That's not going to happen without some real promotion.

Also, the song has only been on the daily Urban AC chart for 11 days. This is a slow moving chart, the least amount of time any song ahead of it has been on the chart is 21 days.

[Edited 10/8/15 8:33am]

I just heard it on 101.1 in Savannah! I pulled over and called my wife because I had to tell someone.

alandail said:

RODSERLING said:

A sale is a sale, but look a the facts : in 3 weeks, HNR sold only 20.000 ex in the USA. You can call that"nobody". That is very low, even for an independant release. Prince is supposed to be a huge brand. Even here on the org, most of the orgers didn't buy the album. Nobody cares much.

Sales are not lousy for every kind of music, there are thousands album this year that sold better than HNR, with even no promotion at all.

Once again look at the facts : next week HNR will be out of the BB 200, while 1000Xs and X's will climb higher in the UAC. That's why I say that UAC has no effect at all on the BB 200, because it's true. I don't care about rnb or rock fans, even Prince's fans didn't buy the album.

of course #25 on Urban AC has minimal impact on album sales, that's 164 spins in the entire country and a total audience of just over 1 million people, contrast that with #1 pop song that has 17377 spins and an audiance of veor 100 million people. That doesn't mean there isn't any impact or wouldn't be more impact if he can somehow climb into the top 5 or 10 and even more impact if he could cross over to either the Urban chart or the Pop chart. That's not going to happen without some real promotion.

Also, the song has only been on the daily Urban AC chart for 11 days. This is a slow moving chart, the least amount of time any song ahead of it has been on the chart is 21 days.

[Edited 10/8/15 8:33am]

You said exactly what I said. It's so logical.

Militant said:

Prince moves up to #24 on the urban AC airplay chart today with 193 spins (+15 from yesterday).

lezama said:

Askani said:

I think someone paid ClearChannel to play it a whole bunch, so it managed to chart on some airplay chart, didn't it?

You're thinking of RNRLA..

didn't it debut on the iheartradio app... or something like that?

dodger said:

Doesn't matter if it's released to the radio... HitnRun officially died on the charts in it's 3rd week... Just like Plectrum.

HitnRun and Plectrum were his lowest sales to date on the same amount as N.E.W.S. He doesn't care about promotion he gets his check up front now a days.

moved up a spot today to #23 with +18 spins.

funkomatic said:

BobGeorge909 said:

Alexandernvrmind said:

feeluupp said:

Doesn't matter if it's released to the radio... HitnRun officially died on the charts in it's 3rd week... Just like Plectrum.

HitnRun and Plectrum were his lowest sales to date on the same amount as N.E.W.S. He doesn't care about promotion he gets his check up front now a days.

Not really, it was #70 on Billboard Album Sales.

TKO said:

feeluupp said:

Doesn't matter if it's released to the radio... HitnRun officially died on the charts in it's 3rd week... Just like Plectrum.

HitnRun and Plectrum were his lowest sales to date on the same amount as N.E.W.S. He doesn't care about promotion he gets his check up front now a days.

Not really, it was #70 on Billboard Album Sales.

That was the first week DEBUT... It's off the charts now in the 4th week...

1000x's and X's peaked at #23 in the urban AC, interestingly the same rank as TCBU last spring.

I highly doubt it will get higher.