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Reply #60 posted 08/17/15 4:34pm

KingSausage

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I believe it's INsufferable, not UNsufferable.


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Reply #61 posted 08/17/15 7:59pm

BobGeorge909

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feeluupp said:



herb4 said:





BartVanHemelen said:



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You love that song so much you made more than one spelling error.


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Plus this is BS. This is your opinion and it makes little sense. Very little.




The fuck is wrong with you?


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"5,784 posts over 13 years is an AWFUL lot of effort just to say "I hate Prince and his fans are idiots." That's 4,475 days. Over one post a day for 13 years just to say the same fucking thing over...and over...and over. Jesus Christ, go outside or something. Get laid. Listen to music you like and go post about it somewhere. Anything. Please. Thanks."



Have to be a little SICK to post the same negative responses for over 13 years... SICK...

[Edited 8/17/15 16:15pm]


This prompted me to check his membership date and its the same as mine. February 18th 2002. Does anyone have a date earlier than that?
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Reply #62 posted 08/18/15 2:17am

darkroman

I love this album. It's great from start to finish!

The video shoot in London was funny for the Come On promo.

There was talk of Wasted Kisses being a single, but by this time Prince had moved on quickly to Rave.

A fuller longer version would have been great.

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Reply #63 posted 08/18/15 4:22am

Funkyalien

darkroman said:

I love this album. It's great from start to finish!

The video shoot in London was funny for the Come On promo.

There was talk of Wasted Kisses being a single, but by this time Prince had moved on quickly to Rave.

A fuller longer version would have been great.

ya, the album has its flaws, but it's enjoyable.

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Reply #64 posted 08/18/15 4:25am

Funkyalien

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BobGeorge909 said:
The One...Freaks On This Side...and Wasted Kisses are the Only things this album is good for. Many hollar for Until..Arms Again but I don't feel that...WAAAAY to schmaltzy fore. The bass on the one and all the ultra subtle touches make me adore it. Seems he had that song and tried to make an album to put it on or something. The horns on Freaks r just outrageously awesome and wild. Love the effects done to them and sounds made from the performance. Wasted kisses...well...nuff said.
I agree Until Ur In My Arms Again is very sugary but the lyrics are quite touching if you keep in mind what he'd just been through. . One good thing that came from NPS was the Come One single - I really like the remix.

An aunt of mine, who is into western classical and stuff, really liked 'Until U're in my arms again'. So I went one step further and made her listen to "arms of orion".... lol lol lol .....she liked that too!! Sometimes we need some prince for family listening, i guess.... lol lol lol

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Reply #65 posted 08/18/15 5:19am

Funkyalien

BobGeorge909 said:

Funkyalien said:

It is about OCD. you know what i'm referring to. everyone else knows what i'm referring to. there's a way to point it out. your impatience with the error points to your being a hardcore fan, and therefore OCD. i like. thanks for pointing it out. i had never noticed it. but don't reduce music to a technicality. you can love music without knowing the title of the album, and in rock and roll's case, without knowing english even.

[Edited 8/17/15 10:40am]

I had a friend who claimed to be a hardcore NIN fan. Yet somehow, I would know about the newest release before he did, and NIN ain't even my scene. Mostly it would be because the NIN fans in this site would make enough of a stink as to me finding out about it sans effort. That's what I LOVE about P. His music is widespread enough to where there's fans of ALL walks of life and with a WIDE spread of interest. It exposes me to stuff I would otherwise have no clue about. [Edited 8/17/15 12:36pm]

Nicely put, but this reminds of another unrelated thing: there is no tidal where I live.

[Edited 8/18/15 5:20am]

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Reply #66 posted 08/18/15 5:29am

Funkyalien

BobGeorge909 said:

feeluupp said:

"5,784 posts over 13 years is an AWFUL lot of effort just to say "I hate Prince and his fans are idiots." That's 4,475 days. Over one post a day for 13 years just to say the same fucking thing over...and over...and over. Jesus Christ, go outside or something. Get laid. Listen to music you like and go post about it somewhere. Anything. Please. Thanks."

Have to be a little SICK to post the same negative responses for over 13 years... SICK...

[Edited 8/17/15 16:15pm]

This prompted me to check his membership date and its the same as mine. February 18th 2002. Does anyone have a date earlier than that?

Dunno...mine is two months later....april 2002.

[Edited 8/18/15 5:48am]

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Reply #67 posted 08/18/15 5:31am

feeluupp

BobGeorge909 said:

feeluupp said:

"5,784 posts over 13 years is an AWFUL lot of effort just to say "I hate Prince and his fans are idiots." That's 4,475 days. Over one post a day for 13 years just to say the same fucking thing over...and over...and over. Jesus Christ, go outside or something. Get laid. Listen to music you like and go post about it somewhere. Anything. Please. Thanks."

Have to be a little SICK to post the same negative responses for over 13 years... SICK...

[Edited 8/17/15 16:15pm]

This prompted me to check his membership date and its the same as mine. February 18th 2002. Does anyone have a date earlier than that?

In the beginning it was a personality established... Now it's just plain sad and a little sick of him to keep going on after all these years... I feel bad for the guy now... I really do.

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Reply #68 posted 08/18/15 8:29am

RedKite

I have mixed feelings about NPS. I only liked half the album: Mad Sex, Until U're in the arms again, When you Love Somebody, Come On, and Wasted Kisses. Freaks on this Side and Push it Up are sort of OK, the rest I never listen to. I do find I can agree with the sentiment that Prince was somewhat depressed at this stage of his life. As much as I try to enjoy the music I would feel sad after listening to it, something somewhat hopeless about the music. I never understood why The One was a single or considered great, it never connected with me.

Historical question: Were all of these songs written specifically for this album? Were some outtakes from other projects?

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Reply #69 posted 08/18/15 8:35am

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BobGeorge909 said:

feeluupp said:



herb4 said:





BartVanHemelen said:



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You love that song so much you made more than one spelling error.


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Plus this is BS. This is your opinion and it makes little sense. Very little.




The fuck is wrong with you?


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"5,784 posts over 13 years is an AWFUL lot of effort just to say "I hate Prince and his fans are idiots." That's 4,475 days. Over one post a day for 13 years just to say the same fucking thing over...and over...and over. Jesus Christ, go outside or something. Get laid. Listen to music you like and go post about it somewhere. Anything. Please. Thanks."



Have to be a little SICK to post the same negative responses for over 13 years... SICK...

[Edited 8/17/15 16:15pm]


This prompted me to check his membership date and its the same as mine. February 18th 2002. Does anyone have a date earlier than that?


Are we really resorting to going through people's post history? What happened to just posting rebuttals or ignoring responses you don't like?
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P.S: it is not OCD:
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Newpower Soul: 1998 song and album
New Power Soul: Track on the NPG's 1995 album Exodus
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Reply #70 posted 08/18/15 9:02am

feeluupp

PurpleMedley122 said:

BobGeorge909 said:
This prompted me to check his membership date and its the same as mine. February 18th 2002. Does anyone have a date earlier than that?
Are we really resorting to going through people's post history? What happened to just posting rebuttals or ignoring responses you don't like? . P.S: it is not OCD: . Newpower Soul: 1998 song and album New Power Soul: Track on the NPG's 1995 album Exodus [Edited 8/18/15 8:36am]

Because it's getting too old now... 13 years... Same stuff... 13 years...

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Reply #71 posted 08/18/15 9:14am

Funkyalien

PurpleMedley122 said:

BobGeorge909 said:
This prompted me to check his membership date and its the same as mine. February 18th 2002. Does anyone have a date earlier than that?
Are we really resorting to going through people's post history? What happened to just posting rebuttals or ignoring responses you don't like? . P.S: it is not OCD: . Newpower Soul: 1998 song and album New Power Soul: Track on the NPG's 1995 album Exodus [Edited 8/18/15 8:36am]

I have no problems about him pointing it out. I have thanked him for it, and these are the kind of particulars (hence OCD) I myself like, and would have pointed it out in conversation if I had known about it, or thought to think about it. But like I posted earlier, there's a way to point it out, instead of being supercilious about the thread, which talks about liking the album's music. hope you understand. cheers.

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Reply #72 posted 08/18/15 9:18am

Funkyalien

RedKite said:

Historical question: Were all of these songs written specifically for this album? Were some outtakes from other projects?

Ya, I'd love to know too. I guess looking up each song on princevault will provide the answers.

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Reply #73 posted 08/18/15 10:51pm

BobGeorge909

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PurpleMedley122 said:

BobGeorge909 said:


This prompted me to check his membership date and its the same as mine. February 18th 2002. Does anyone have a date earlier than that?


Are we really resorting to going through people's post history? What happened to just posting rebuttals or ignoring responses you don't like?
.
P.S: it is not OCD:
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Newpower Soul: 1998 song and album
New Power Soul: Track on the NPG's 1995 album Exodus
[Edited 8/18/15 8:36am]

Seriously...i was only curious as to the date...I dint go through his history of posts. I think it must be the date the site started this incarnation cuz I clicked like 100 handles and didn't see a date earlier.
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Reply #74 posted 08/19/15 12:35am

KingSausage

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That is in fact the date when the Org was recreated in its current form. Bart, me, many others were here before that, back in the good old purple and black days.




BobGeorge909 said:

PurpleMedley122 said:



Are we really resorting to going through people's post history? What happened to just posting rebuttals or ignoring responses you don't like?
.
P.S: it is not OCD:
.
Newpower Soul: 1998 song and album
New Power Soul: Track on the NPG's 1995 album Exodus
[Edited 8/18/15 8:36am]

Seriously...i was only curious as to the date...I dint go through his history of posts. I think it must be the date the site started this incarnation cuz I clicked like 100 handles and didn't see a date earlier.
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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Reply #75 posted 08/19/15 1:27am

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I remember when I went in Record Store, thinking "I will not buy this album if someone is singing and this "someone" is not prince". No more Tora Tora background vocals.

I enter the store and the seller was playing "Mad Sex" in all the place. I thinked, "oh" and I buy it.

To be honest I was too busy listening Crystal Ball & The Truth & Kamasutra so the love for "n ewp owe rsou l" (sorry Bart) was quite low. But I changed opinion on it some year after. The sound was better than Emancipation, more experimental in many ways.

I do not love it. There are some low-moment, too low for me: Until You Are On My Arms Again is too saccarine and generic; When You Love Somebody has got a long and heavy chorus line; the synth on Come On is very cheap; the rap on I Like Funky Music killed it.

But the other songs are quite interesting.

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Reply #76 posted 08/19/15 1:58am

Funkyalien

fabriziovenerandi said:

I remember when I went in Record Store, thinking "I will not buy this album if someone is singing and this "someone" is not prince". No more Tora Tora background vocals.

I enter the store and the seller was playing "Mad Sex" in all the place. I thinked, "oh" and I buy it.

To be honest I was too busy listening Crystal Ball & The Truth & Kamasutra so the love for "n ewp owe rsou l" (sorry Bart) was quite low. But I changed opinion on it some year after. The sound was better than Emancipation, more experimental in many ways.

I do not love it. There are some low-moment, too low for me: Until You Are On My Arms Again is too saccarine and generic; When You Love Somebody has got a long and heavy chorus line; the synth on Come On is very cheap; the rap on I Like Funky Music killed it.

But the other songs are quite interesting.

the 'cheap' synth is what makes it oh-so delicious and funky. it's intentional.

Funky alien
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Reply #77 posted 08/19/15 4:54am

herb4

PurpleMedley122 said:

BobGeorge909 said:
This prompted me to check his membership date and its the same as mine. February 18th 2002. Does anyone have a date earlier than that?
Are we really resorting to going through people's post history? What happened to just posting rebuttals or ignoring responses you don't like? . P.S: it is not OCD: . Newpower Soul: 1998 song and album New Power Soul: Track on the NPG's 1995 album Exodus [Edited 8/18/15 8:36am]

It's listed right there on your profile page. "Number of Posts". I didn't go through and count them one by one. I was really just curious how deep the obsession ran.

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Reply #78 posted 08/19/15 5:05am

darkroman

Come On is oustanding!

This album is great played loud!

Without doubt one of the best Prince albums.

I really don't understand why people don't get it. But I guess not everyone has the ability to see and hear geat things. I suppose that makes us different.

It's a shame Prince moved on to Rave so quickly as we had many more plans in mind. Oh well.

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Reply #79 posted 08/19/15 6:33am

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NPS is one of Prince's greatest albums? People just don't "get it" and lack the ability to "hear great things"?

Thanks for the laughs.
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Reply #80 posted 08/19/15 6:58am

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I have been a Prince fan since Day 1 back in 1978 with Soft and Wet and followed his music religiously ever since. And I like NPS. There is a good dose of enjoyable funk on this album and to me Emancipation and Rave around NPS were much bigger disappointments. The first half of the album is a really tough slog, I ain't gonna lie. I really cannot tolerate Until U're In My Arms Again and When U Love Somebody. But the run of Push It Up, Freaks On This Side, Come On and The One is really strong IMO. In fact, I think Come On and The One stand up against any of his uptempo or ballad efforts of the 1990s. I agree with the other post that these tunes sound especially good turned up really LOUD. Overall, I give this album a 6 on the Prince scale, with (for reference) 10s being SOTT, Parade, Lovesexy, 1999 and 9s being Purple Rain, Rainbow Children, The Gold Experience and Symbol.

If you've got funk, you've got style.
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Reply #81 posted 08/19/15 7:23am

augustwinters

I enjoyed the album too but maybe more so because he was playing some of the songs at Paisley a lot during that time.

He liked to open the jams in the small room with the sirens blaring with Come on. Mad Sex was another one that sounded great live. And the killer of them all was Shoo-Bed-Ooh. The piano is kick ass on that song live the song was haunting with those strong lyrics that made you say hmm. What message is he trying to say. Sadly you'll never hear that song again.

A nice funky little party album. Compared to the stuff coming out now...sorry I have to say, that was classic old school Prince. I'd take another album like that right about now.

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Reply #82 posted 08/19/15 9:31am

darkroman

augustwinters said:

I enjoyed the album too but maybe more so because he was playing some of the songs at Paisley a lot during that time.

He liked to open the jams in the small room with the sirens blaring with Come on. Mad Sex was another one that sounded great live. And the killer of them all was Shoo-Bed-Ooh. The piano is kick ass on that song live the song was haunting with those strong lyrics that made you say hmm. What message is he trying to say. Sadly you'll never hear that song again.

A nice funky little party album. Compared to the stuff coming out now...sorry I have to say, that was classic old school Prince. I'd take another album like that right about now.

Totally agree! This was a great era and a seriously funky album!

It's a real shame he didn't continue down this route.

Come On is seriously cool and the whole album is just great from start to finish.

If only this was released as 'Prince', it would have received greater recognition.

Sometimes I do prefer albums that don't sound commercial as they tend to last the test of time - as this one has.

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Reply #83 posted 08/19/15 10:43am

herb4

I like this album. Always have and never got the hate for it, really. The production is a little on the "tinny" side but I'll take this one over Rave, 20Ten, PLanet Earth or NEWS any day. It's kind of fun in its own way and has some truly great songs on it (The One, Come On, Wasted Kisses, Mad Sex). The only real clunker on it for me "(I Like) Funky Music).

I spliced it together with "Come" and got a really great record out of it. I call it NewPowerCome.

Also, a "guilty pleasure" is something that most people hate and that you're almost ashamed to admit that you like, like New Kids on the Block, trashy romance novels, gossip magazines, Kardashian shows, etc. My own guilty pleasure is KC and the Sunshine Band because it's not "cool" to like them but those boys were funky as hell.

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Reply #84 posted 08/19/15 11:08am

NorthC

I remember very well that back then on Dutch radio it was promoted as the new Prince album. Nobody was fooled by the NPG name. Or by the "The Artist" pseudonym. It's a Prince album.
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Reply #85 posted 08/19/15 11:12am

thedoorkeeper

NewPowerCome.
That's good.
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Reply #86 posted 08/19/15 11:54am

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I always was and always will be madly in love with this record and its 2 twin albums (C2MH and GCS2000). people can say what they want they can't change the fact that it's given me thousands of hours of listening pleasure, and I dig the lyrics a lot, too.

Back in 2000-2002 I was working and hanging out a lot with a bunch of professional musicians and hardcore funk fans who knew little about Prince (they were more into George and Herbie, that kinda stuff, mostly 70's funk and jazz fusion), and I remember playing NPS at a party at home and they came to me and asked "is that Prince? Fuck, this ROCKS!", and I gave them copies of the album on cassettes and they started to ask for more Prince from that point on, but they didn't stop praising NPS when they got Parade and TBA: to them NPS was the definitive Prince funk album and I tend to agree.

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Reply #87 posted 08/19/15 1:07pm

Noodled24

So we're all agreed then?

NPS is an ok opener, Mad Sex never quite finds it's momentum, "Arms again", "Love Somebody", "Snore-be-doo" are filler, "Push it up" & "Freaks" would have been better on "Exodus", "Come On" is a keeper, "The One" is good but the lyrics are about as vapid as any rap mentioning money, "Funky Music" is an unmemorable closer. "Wasted Kisses" is a spectacular gem.

There are only 3 songs I always skip these days, but if I was being super-critical, I could reduce the album down to "Come On" and "Wasted Kisses". Some of the tracks might fair much better live, or with a more organic production. Releasing it as an NPG album was utterly meaningless. It's an RnB album holding a sign that says "funk".

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Reply #88 posted 08/19/15 1:27pm

Funkyalien

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Some of the tracks might fair much better live, or with a more organic production.

True, but that's the problem with Prince. There are no organic productions. the little organic productions he has released, like old friends for sale or the rainbow children, are not liked by his fans, unfortunately. would we have liked an organic production on doves, or something in the water? no matter which versions we listen to, the album versions are gospel. prince follows that formula to keep us happy, or so he thinks. dirty mind was all demo-tasting, but it wasn't a live sound. lately, on another note, i think prince has stopped being hybrid too: the earlier prince would never have segregated styles like he tends to do these days with lotus/mpls, AOA/Plec-elec, musicology/3121....he would have meshed it all with a unique production style which would have showcased the tunes and fostered no complaints about production, like he managed once with the prince album.

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Reply #89 posted 08/19/15 3:13pm

Noodled24

Funkyalien said:

Noodled24 said:


Some of the tracks might fair much better live, or with a more organic production.

True, but that's the problem with Prince. There are no organic productions. the little organic productions he has released, like old friends for sale or the rainbow children, are not liked by his fans, unfortunately. would we have liked an organic production on doves, or something in the water? no matter which versions we listen to, the album versions are gospel. prince follows that formula to keep us happy, or so he thinks. dirty mind was all demo-tasting, but it wasn't a live sound. lately, on another note, i think prince has stopped being hybrid too: the earlier prince would never have segregated styles like he tends to do these days with lotus/mpls, AOA/Plec-elec, musicology/3121....he would have meshed it all with a unique production style which would have showcased the tunes and fostered no complaints about production, like he managed once with the prince album.

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^ I don't know, DM, Controversy, PR, ARTWIAD... the '91-'94 period. Very different sounding albums but each organic in it's own way. Even TGE/Exodus. Have an underlying organic sound to them. Which isn't there on NPS.

I'm not sure about the hybrid thing... His recent rock album is half RnB and even has a rap song. It just seems to be part of his obsession for releasing multiple albums at a time. The only time he's ever "conformed" to a genre was when he accidentally thought he was a Jazz artist.


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