Fury said:

Seems like some of peeps were waiting for sign of the times, part two He'll perform it Sunday and the crowd will love it Sounds like it could be killer live

Yeah..Seems like some folks were waiting for "Fight The Power"...

Not going to listen. Going to wait until I hear it live tomorrow night in B'More! First time he's been to the DMV in over a Decade!!!!

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

EroticDreamer said:

I said the song Mr. Policeman by RJ is so much better than Baltimore.

Mr. Policeman was released in 1981 and is the song that Prince 'lifted' the term 'funk n roll' from.

Rick James never had half the talent that Prince does and that only makes the song Baltimore that much more disappointing.

It stank!

What about the thousands of more songs that has written more than Rick ever wrote.

Don't those count?

Also since your going to bring up "Street Songs" album? That very "Street Songs" album Rick recorded with 's oberhiem synthesizer! That he STOLE from while touring with him. He used it to make "Mr. Policeman" and all the other cuts on that album. Then stole the guitar riff on "Pass The J" from 's "Sexy Dancer".

If U going to use Rick to bring down ? Vice versa!!!

You're mixing up the point.

Are you forgetting where we're at, 'Prince.org'?

If there were a RJ.org I wouldn't be interested enough to go often.

I've never liked Prince's personality but most of his music has been my inspiration and purchase everything he releases.

I think Baltimore is a generic dud (if it goes on sale I'll buy it anyway just because of all the boots I have).

I think Mr. Policeman is infinitely better for the situation both songs address.

I'm always right about these types of things!

Fury said:

Lovvvvve this song!!!! Homeboy kills it on guitar!

"...it's time to hear the guitar play...guitar play!"

he's gonna BLOW THE AUDIENCE AWAY WITH THE LIVE VERSION!!!

ComeHereLetMeCutYourHair said:

clay said:

I guarantee that if this track showed up on Blast From The Past 3.0 with a little in-the-vault audio hiss, everyone would be clammoring for the best quality version around and commenting on how he doesn't make great music like this any more.

Most of the vaulted music that's been released lately is not even close to this song, but hey, those songs came from the 80s so they MUST be great because HE was great in the 80s.

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that's something i often think about, but it's really hard for me to imagine how i'd feel if i heard this song on an 80s bootleg, because he just didn't write music back then that sounded like this. I'm trying to imagine Baltimore with an 80s demo sound and I'm trying to objectively compare it to something that's actually from the 80s. If it turns out that Baltimore is actually similar to an 80s track that I like, then I guess you're right. But the trouble is I can't think of any 80s track that is similar enough to Baltimore for me to make that comparison.

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In the 80s every now and then he'd write something like Adonis and Bathsheba. A&B and Baltimore are so, so different, and I much prefer the sound of A&B. So it makes me think that if I got my hands on a bootleg that had A&B and Baltimore (1988 version), I'd be skipping Baltimore. That's my personal taste, though. I don't really like Prince's "rock" stuff, even from the 80s.

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I also don't think people uniformly love the 80s vault material. There are tons of tracks I've heard that, in my opinion, were locked away with good reason.

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clay said:

This song doesn't have to be the greatest thing he's ever recorded, but it's a song he cares about and according to the non-org critics spanning the web over the past 12 hrs or so have also raved about this song. Wanna know why? They don't start by immediately hating a song before even listening to it like so many ppl here do.

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why do you care so much who does and doesn't like the song?

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Not bad at all. I like the guitar. The guitar sounds dirty. Leave it to Prince to make the guitar sound different every song.

The female's singing parts ARE a bit saccarhine...not to my liking, but they don't destroy the song.

I do like the keyboard part towards the end.

NOW BRING Hit n' Run to Memphis, Tennessee.

That is all. Thanks in advance Prince!

Poor people of Baltimore...first they have police killing people just for kicks, and now this shitty shit shit song, from Prince. They suffered enough. It's obvious, when it comes to Prince, for greatness, you have to look back, because it's definitely not forward. Now having said that, I can respect he's actually speaking out about this. Most celebs get super-silent, shen it comes to black males getting killed by police. But they speak up repeatedly on the killing of people overseas...makes you wonder why?

Askani said:

omg, this song is shit.

exactly, straight from Prince's toilet.

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Is it better than Purple & Gold?

jdcxc said:

BlackandRising said:

here's a thought; Maybe it's not a literal reference to taking guns away; maybe he's commenting on the influx of illegal guns in the AA community, that has to come from somewhere, and how if there wasn't such easy access to weapons, then maybe there wouldn't be so many black men killing other black men in these communities.

Smart comment. It amazes me that after all these years Org fans still dont get P. Prince grew up on 60s-70s political theatre. Some people are too literal for his brand of art. He is more Sly than Public Enemy.

You can't un-invent gun powder. The knowledge of how to make a gun is forever with us. And just how do you take away all the guns? With guns, or more sophisticated weapons? It just sounds fascist to me. I grew up on 60s-70s poiltical theatre, but I just think saying "Let's take away the guns" is simplistic and naive. I don't like guns, but just how do you get rid of them, realistically?

7thday said:

Pentacle said:

What can one say but... Salieri.

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That forgettable, huh?

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7thday said:

jdcxc said:

BlackandRising said: Smart comment. It amazes me that after all these years Org fans still dont get P. Prince grew up on 60s-70s political theatre. Some people are too literal for his brand of art. He is more Sly than Public Enemy.

You can't un-invent gun powder. The knowledge of how to make a gun is forever with us. And just how do you take away all the guns? With guns, or more sophisticated weapons? It just sounds fascist to me. I grew up on 60s-70s poiltical theatre, but I just think saying "Let's take away the guns" is simplistic and naive. I don't like guns, but just how do you get rid of them, realistically?

wtf...really? is this really how people these days interpret things? Why do people think so literally these days? can't un-invent gunpowder?

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Pentacle said:

therat said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

lezama said:

How do you get that from his lyrics? i thought it was common knowledge he doesnt like guns.

Because they only call for it when they tried to kill Reagan. Another line is calling for the electric chair.

He's simply saying: they killed Lennon AND now they tried to kill Reagan, it's time for gun control.

Prince is living his life in taxi cabs till all the nasty scary things symbolized by the Anti-Christ are gone.

And it's perfectly possible to be anti-gun and in favor of the death penalty. I am.

jdcxc said:

BlackandRising said:

here's a thought; Maybe it's not a literal reference to taking guns away; maybe he's commenting on the influx of illegal guns in the AA community, that has to come from somewhere, and how if there wasn't such easy access to weapons, then maybe there wouldn't be so many black men killing other black men in these communities.

Smart comment. It amazes me that after all these years Org fans still dont get P. Prince grew up on 60s-70s political theatre. Some people are too literal for his brand of art. He is more Sly than Public Enemy.

Yeah, we still don't get P. because his comments in the media and his lyrics have shown him to be such a visionary and intellectual. The case was definitely closed with The Rainbow Children. Please stop it.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

What about the thousands of more songs that has written more than Rick ever wrote.

Don't those count?

Sure do.

Song: meh. 2nd part: ok.

clay said:

I guarantee that if this track showed up on Blast From The Past 3.0 with a little in-the-vault audio hiss, everyone would be clammoring for the best quality version around and commenting on how he doesn't make great music like this any more.

Most of the vaulted music that's been released lately is not even close to this song, but hey, those songs came from the 80s so they MUST be great because HE was great in the 80s. It's a terrible bias that exists on this pathetic little org.

This song doesn't have to be the greatest thing he's ever recorded, but it's a song he cares about and according to the non-org critics spanning the web over the past 12 hrs or so have also raved about this song. Wanna know why? They don't start by immediately hating a song before even listening to it like so many ppl here do.

So on point -- it's almost like Prince should become a fake bootlegger and pretend all his news songs are old ones that just surfaced. "OMG, Wendy and Lisa totally KILL on Wow -- this is the shit he should be doing now! Even when they clearly need a throat lozange, the gals just sound so much better than anything I've heard recently."

MinorG said:

I like it and think it is a deliberate attempt to craft a chilled counterpoint to the anger and volatility of the situation. The guitar is very Alexa de Paris and not the flashy aggressive solo I was expecting. It reminds me of sst as well, maybe that's a place that he goes to now in times of distress, a soothing melodic vibe? A dollop of honey to soothe rather than pouring further fuel on the fire. [Edited 5/9/15 15:47pm]

Yes, that seems to be his thing. SST seemed to have a similar message.

Interestingly, though, as well as that main aspect of it, there's also things in there around the edges like the "no justice, no peace" chant, which perhaps pulls in a different direction; almost as if he worried he'd made the message too sedate. I also wish he'd developed the point (which I think he probably got from King) that peace is not just the absence of war. He mentions that but doesn't really go anywhere with it - even though it's an interesting one to think through, as it also runs counter to the idea that things should or could simply 'get back to normal'.

udo said:

Is it better than Purple & Gold?

Because the excuses I've read for it include, "it doesn't have to be the greatest song he's ever done" and the "if it was from the '80's y'all would like it" and the "for its intended puposes, the song is good enough" and the obligatory "it'll be better LIVE", I'd say it's worse.

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Aerogram said:

clay said:

I guarantee that if this track showed up on Blast From The Past 3.0 with a little in-the-vault audio hiss, everyone would be clammoring for the best quality version around and commenting on how he doesn't make great music like this any more.

Most of the vaulted music that's been released lately is not even close to this song, but hey, those songs came from the 80s so they MUST be great because HE was great in the 80s. It's a terrible bias that exists on this pathetic little org.

This song doesn't have to be the greatest thing he's ever recorded, but it's a song he cares about and according to the non-org critics spanning the web over the past 12 hrs or so have also raved about this song. Wanna know why? They don't start by immediately hating a song before even listening to it like so many ppl here do.

So on point -- it's almost like Prince should become a fake bootlegger and pretend all his news songs are old ones that just surfaced. "OMG, Wendy and Lisa totally KILL on Wow -- this is the shit he should be doing now! Even when they clearly need a throat lozange, the gals just sound so much better than anything I've heard recently."

Nonsense. I don't like Adonis & Bathseba either.

Recently, someone pointed out that 319 on The Gold Experience might have originated in 1989/Batman. Makes a lot sense, for that would explain why it's such a mediocre (though fairly catchy) song. Not all blasts from the past are good.