Pentacle said:

Aerogram said:

So on point -- it's almost like Prince should become a fake bootlegger and pretend all his news songs are old ones that just surfaced. "OMG, Wendy and Lisa totally KILL on Wow -- this is the shit he should be doing now! Even when they clearly need a throat lozange, the gals just sound so much better than anything I've heard recently."

Nonsense. I don't like Adonis & Bathseba either.

Recently, someone pointed out that 319 on The Gold Experience might have originated in 1989/Batman. Makes a lot sense, for that would explain why it's such a mediocre (though fairly catchy) song. Not all blasts from the past are good.

It's not nonsense at all. Old tracks are not all considered good but you have to admit they benefit from a positive predisposition toward that era. For instance, Prince hardly employed great singers during that era but you don't hear as much complaining about the obvious vocal shortcomings of his protégés then you do today.

They have done a lot of testing on people who consider they have refined tastes in food, wine and music and they are easily fooled by how it's all presented to them. Put a cheap wine in a fine bottle and legions of foodies swear they detect subtle "notes" only a fine wine could possess. Chop a happy meal into little morsels, stick some toothpicks, olives, some cheap cheese and voilà: you've conquered the refined audience at an organic food festival. They can even fool classical music experts into thinking they are listening to a real orchestra. So I think it's obvious that people are pre-influenced by the perceived origin or provenance, Baltimore was pre-destined to be judged harshly, 'twas all foretold by y'all a week ago.

Aerogram said:

Pentacle said:

Nonsense. I don't like Adonis & Bathseba either.

Recently, someone pointed out that 319 on The Gold Experience might have originated in 1989/Batman. Makes a lot sense, for that would explain why it's such a mediocre (though fairly catchy) song. Not all blasts from the past are good.

It's not nonsense at all. Old tracks are not all considered good but you have to admit they benefit from a positive predisposition toward that era. For instance, Prince hardly employed great singers during that era but you don't hear as much complaining about the obvious vocal shortcomings of his protégés then you do today.

They have done a lot of testing on people who consider they have refined tastes in food, wine and music and they are easily fooled by how it's all presented to them. Put a cheap wine in a fine bottle and legions of foodies swear they detect subtle "notes" only a fine wine could possess. Chop a happy meal into little morsels, stick some toothpicks, olives, some cheap cheese and voilà: you've conquered the refined audience at an organic food festival. They can even fool classical music experts into thinking they are listening to a real orchestra. So I think it's obvious that people are pre-influenced by the perceived origin or provenance, Baltimore was pre-destined to be judged harshly, 'twas all foretold by y'all a week ago.

Oh sure, I hear you.

But 'Baltimore' still isn't very good

[Edited 5/10/15 4:11am]

Yikes.

Fury said:

By midnight, when the concert reviews roll in people that say they hate it and it's shit will wanna hear the kick ass live version sang passionately with 14,000 Fans.

It's still going to be streaming Live on Tidal for free. We'll hear what happens, when it happens.

Pentacle said:

He could have built a real corker of a song around that guitar ... esepcially if it broke into a long extended solo at the end.

But he didn't, which is a shame because the gutiar absolutely kills. I hear the Cinnamon Girl comparisons, but I love Cinnamon Girl (plus the lyrics of Cinnaom Girl are about 1000 times stronger). However, whatever the quality of Baltimore, it's a nice sentiment.

leecaldon said:

Which Prince song is the guitar riff reminiscent of? It's really bugging that I can't remember.

Alexa De Paris?

coolice227 said:

I really don't understand why prince is saying take away guns in his Baltimore song! Guns didn't kill Freddie Gray! If guns should be taken away then so should everything killing people should be taken away like the " the police, knifes, cars, drugs, bad foods, sugar, liquor, wars, greed, and so on!" There are numerous things people are using to kill people! Guns is just one of them! It's not the material objects it's people killing people with their weapon of choice and guns is not always the weapon of choice but these other weapons are rarely promoted in the media like guns are! So what needs to be taken away is people that will take the life of another person without a second thought! They know who they are!!!!!!!

Yes, but I doubt your call for mass-suicide will be answered.

Pentacle said:

SLATE

Prince Shared a Gorgeous New Song in Tribute to Baltimore and Freddie Gray

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2015/05/09/prince_shares_baltimore_a_tribute_song_for_the_city_of_freddie_gray_to_be.html

By Sharan Shetty

On Sunday, Prince and his band 3rdEyeGirl will perform a “Rally 4 Peace” concert in Baltimore, which Jay Z’s much-mocked Tidal service will stream for free. In advance of the event, Prince has shared “Baltimore,” a new, groovy number that honors and mourns lost lives like Freddie Gray.

Fury said:

By midnight, when the concert reviews roll in people that say they hate it and it's shit will wanna hear the kick ass live version sang passionately with 14,000 Fans.

Oh yeah -- it's a post that writes itself:

Last week, I was delighted/amused/shocked/disgusted to learn Prince decided to write a song about Baltimore. After checking out the lyrics of the still unheard song, I took to the Org to praise/declare myself unimpressed/disappointed/appalled/nauseous.

So when the song came out yesterday, I was pleasantly pleased/sufficiently impressed/absolutely disgusted/completely devastated/almost suicidal.

Now that I've heard it live, you know what? It is SOOOO much better. I still love the studio version/vomit just thinking about the released track.

herb4 said:

coolice227 said:

coolice227 said:

Pentacle said:

Yes, but I doubt your call for mass-suicide will be answered.

If you are saying that I am calling for mass suicide then you can't read and you need to go back to school so you can learn to understand and comprehend what your reading or are you just looking for a fight on the org because your bored?

"What needs to be taken away is people that will take the life of another person without a second thought".

How do you think we'll get rid of these people? Especially since you also want to take guns away from the police (which you define as 'something killing people').

murph said:

SLATE

Prince Shared a Gorgeous New Song in Tribute to Baltimore and Freddie Gray

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2015/05/09/prince_shares_baltimore_a_tribute_song_for_the_city_of_freddie_gray_to_be.html

By Sharan Shetty

On Sunday, Prince and his band 3rdEyeGirl will perform a “Rally 4 Peace” concert in Baltimore, which Jay Z’s much-mocked Tidal service will stream for free. In advance of the event, Prince has shared “Baltimore,” a new, groovy number that honors and mourns lost lives like Freddie Gray.

The song, which Prince debuted last week at Paisley Park, is a raw and spontaneous expression of all the singer “needed to get out” after the unrest in Baltimore. The sound is Prince at his playful best—a funky bass line, a wailing guitar solo—but the words (“Peace is more than the absence of war/ Are we gonna see another bloody day?”) strike a more somber, almost pleading note.

I just cannot take these "reviews" seriously at all.

This song is growing on me...

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

murph said:

SLATE

Prince Shared a Gorgeous New Song in Tribute to Baltimore and Freddie Gray

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2015/05/09/prince_shares_baltimore_a_tribute_song_for_the_city_of_freddie_gray_to_be.html

By Sharan Shetty

On Sunday, Prince and his band 3rdEyeGirl will perform a “Rally 4 Peace” concert in Baltimore, which Jay Z’s much-mocked Tidal service will stream for free. In advance of the event, Prince has shared “Baltimore,” a new, groovy number that honors and mourns lost lives like Freddie Gray.

The song, which Prince debuted last week at Paisley Park, is a raw and spontaneous expression of all the singer “needed to get out” after the unrest in Baltimore. The sound is Prince at his playful best—a funky bass line, a wailing guitar solo—but the words (“Peace is more than the absence of war/ Are we gonna see another bloody day?”) strike a more somber, almost pleading note.

I just cannot take these "reviews" seriously at all.

Hey...it's OK. Just because folks outside the Org bubble r not savaging a non-threatening protest song that wears its earnestness on its sleeve doesn't mean the world is ending....Do I think it's the second coming of "Sign O The Times" or Marvin's "What's Going On"? Hell no. Do I think it's a little breezy pop number that doesn't sound that much different from past "breezy pop" Prince numbers? Yep.

Only on a site dedicated to Prince will u read Prince fans lambasting positive reviews for a Prince song as if their lives depended on it. I mean, we've heard TERRIBLE Prince songs before, people. "Purple And Gold" is out there. That joint still gives me nightmares. Some horrific shit....lol. "Baltimore"? Yeah, it's heavy on the everybody-hold-hands cheesiness. But it's far from terrible. But this is the Org....

coolice227 said:

murph said:

Askani said:

Aerogram said:

NouveauDance said:

Fury said:

murph said:

Hey...it's OK. Just because folks outside the Org bubble r not savaging a non-threatening protest song that wears its earnestness on its sleeve doesn't mean the world is ending....Do I think it's the second coming of "Sign O The Times" or Marvin's "What's Going On"? Hell no. Do I think it's a little breezy pop number that doesn't sound that much different from past "breezy pop" Prince numbers? Yep.

Only on a site dedicated to Prince will u read Prince fans lambasting positive reviews for a Prince song as if their lives depended on it. I mean, we've heard TERRIBLE Prince songs before, people. "Purple And Gold" is out there. That joint still gives me nightmares. Some horrific shit....lol. "Baltimore"? Yeah, it's heavy on the everybody-hold-hands cheesiness. But it's far from terrible. But this is the Org....

What were folks expecting , Avalanche ? Something Moody and brooding ? Family name ? There's a time and place for everything. Maybe another song will come out later, but this one needed to be upbeat a nf positive.

Hopefully, no one will have a fit when the concert turns out not to be as memorable as Woodstock.

Aerogram said:

Fury said:

murph said: What were folks expecting , Avalanche ? Something Moody and brooding ? Family name ? There's a time and place for everything. Maybe another song will come out later, but this one needed to be upbeat a nf positive.

Hopefully, no one will have a fit when the concert turns out not to be as memorable as Woodstock.

Just say the word and we'll open the org crisis hotline. The usual garment rending, weeping and knashing of teeth has reached crisis proportions.

Fury said:

murph said:

Hey...it's OK. But this is the Org....

What were folks expecting , Avalanche ? Something Moody and brooding ? Family name ? There's a time and place for everything. Maybe another song will come out later, but this one needed to be upbeat a nf positive.

Read it again: "It is a raw and spontaneous expression of all the singer needed to get out."

Do any of these words apply to the song 'Baltimore'? No, they dno not.

Aerogram said:

It's not nonsense at all. Old tracks are not all considered good but you have to admit they benefit from a positive predisposition toward that era. For instance, Prince hardly employed great singers during that era but you don't hear as much complaining about the obvious vocal shortcomings of his protégés then you do today.

They have done a lot of testing on people who consider they have refined tastes in food, wine and music and they are easily fooled by how it's all presented to them. Put a cheap wine in a fine bottle and legions of foodies swear they detect subtle "notes" only a fine wine could possess. Chop a happy meal into little morsels, stick some toothpicks, olives, some cheap cheese and voilà: you've conquered the refined audience at an organic food festival. They can even fool classical music experts into thinking they are listening to a real orchestra. So I think it's obvious that people are pre-influenced by the perceived origin or provenance, Baltimore was pre-destined to be judged harshly, 'twas all foretold by y'all a week ago.

EroticDreamer said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

What about the thousands of more songs that has written more than Rick ever wrote.

Don't those count?

Also since your going to bring up "Street Songs" album? That very "Street Songs" album Rick recorded with 's oberhiem synthesizer! That he STOLE from while touring with him. He used it to make "Mr. Policeman" and all the other cuts on that album. Then stole the guitar riff on "Pass The J" from 's "Sexy Dancer".

If U going to use Rick to bring down ? Vice versa!!!

You're mixing up the point.

Are you forgetting where we're at, 'Prince.org'?

If there were a RJ.org I wouldn't be interested enough to go often.

I've never liked Prince's personality but most of his music has been my inspiration and purchase everything he releases.

I think Baltimore is a generic dud (if it goes on sale I'll buy it anyway just because of all the boots I have).

I think Mr. Policeman is infinitely better for the situation both songs address.

I'm always right about these types of things!

U need 2 turn in your purple # Army card. A real fan would NEVER compare a song from his arch rival, from over 35 years ago! That is just like comparing Mj's "Beat It". It's useless & doesn't make sense or a good point at all.