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Thread started 03/01/15 12:10pm

Averett

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No Call U

I've only heard the Prince on vocals version. My question is whether or not the Vanity 6 and Jill Jones versions ever made it into circulation?

If they're out there, I suspect it is a mighty small circle of fans who have heard them?

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Reply #1 posted 03/02/15 9:04am

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No feedback? sad

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Reply #2 posted 03/02/15 11:12am

imprimis

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It's not been demonstrated or fleshed out whether or not any of these rumors is correct about 'No Call U'.

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It's possible that it was tracked with The Hookers / V****a 6 / Vanity 6 in mind, and it is possible that there is a Vanity-vocal version (possibly not used for the original album, and/or revisited in early/mid-1983 when working on a prospective second album).

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The same may be true of its kissing-cousin 'Turn It Up'.

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And both of these tracks, and perhaps some other similar ones that may have also been tried out on his proteges, were probably also considered for the album that became '1999'. 'Delirious' in its final production took this little late 1981-mid 1982 synth-rockabilly preoccupation of P's to a whole new level, and beat them all out, obviously.

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That Jill Jones may have recorded a version seems highly plausible, likely even, as some of the material designated for and reworked (in late-80s fashion) for her second album (tracks that are circulating in the mainstream bootleg community) comes from this very era and set of recording sessions. And some of that material is further revisited material that was likely worked on but not included on her 1987 album release. She seems to have been tried out on a lot of 1981-1985 (late Controversy/Vanity 6/1999/early post-1999 primarily) 'throwaways' when they worked on her album (primarily 1985, but continuing throughout 1986).

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I think that when the long-promised and long-deferred recording Jill Jones sessions began in 1985 (it is said that P promised an album project for her back as far as early 1983), the idea was simply to have her do a straight replacement of the vocals on these tracks; but in 1985 at the time of the recording sessions this type of material was at the absolute end of its life (or perhaps past its expiration) in terms of production values.

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David Z et al. seem to have been tasked with dressing up this ageing or aged production throughout 1986 (and the final products of this particular effort are largely Euro-friendly/post-Parade high-art-pretension favorites of many fans), and at that time with the falling apart of the Revolution, it seems some tracks worked on as late as 1985/1986 themselves for P's own projects became available ('All Day, All Night', 'Baby, You're a Trip', obviously, and probably also 'For Love', and tracks not making the final cut on this album), and accordingly repurposed for JJ.

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If there is a proper Jill Jones 'version', it has probably received more than one miscellaneous 1986-1989 era 'makeover', and overdubs (probably like 'Boom, Boom').

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The truly elite collectors should have more information to yield. For instance, 'Vibrator' seems to segue into the beginning moments of a 'very high sound quality' 'G-Spot', and that this was a song tried out with a second Vanity 6 project in mind with Vanity vocals is a rumor that has floated around since the late 1980s (as has the commonly circulated leak of the source tapes), which to me at least gives some credence to these claims.

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[Edited 3/2/15 12:29pm]

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Reply #3 posted 03/02/15 1:09pm

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imprimis said:

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It's not been demonstrated or fleshed out whether or not any of these rumors is correct about 'No Call U'.

.

It's possible that it was tracked with The Hookers / V****a 6 / Vanity 6 in mind, and it is possible that there is a Vanity-vocal version (possibly not used for the original album, and/or revisited in early/mid-1983 when working on a prospective second album).

.

The same may be true of its kissing-cousin 'Turn It Up'.

.

And both of these tracks, and perhaps some other similar ones that may have also been tried out on his proteges, were probably also considered for the album that became '1999'. 'Delirious' in its final production took this little late 1981-mid 1982 synth-rockabilly preoccupation of P's to a whole new level, and beat them all out, obviously.

.

That Jill Jones may have recorded a version seems highly plausible, likely even, as some of the material designated for and reworked (in late-80s fashion) for her second album (tracks that are circulating in the mainstream bootleg community) comes from this very era and set of recording sessions. And some of that material is further revisited material that was likely worked on but not included on her 1987 album release. She seems to have been tried out on a lot of 1981-1985 (late Controversy/Vanity 6/1999/early post-1999 primarily) 'throwaways' when they worked on her album (primarily 1985, but continuing throughout 1986).

.

I think that when the long-promised and long-deferred recording Jill Jones sessions began in 1985 (it is said that P promised an album project for her back as far as early 1983), the idea was simply to have her do a straight replacement of the vocals on these tracks; but in 1985 at the time of the recording sessions this type of material was at the absolute end of its life (or perhaps past its expiration) in terms of production values.

.

David Z et al. seem to have been tasked with dressing up this ageing or aged production throughout 1986 (and the final products of this particular effort are largely Euro-friendly/post-Parade high-art-pretension favorites of many fans), and at that time with the falling apart of the Revolution, it seems some tracks worked on as late as 1985/1986 themselves for P's own projects became available ('All Day, All Night', 'Baby, You're a Trip', obviously, and probably also 'For Love', and tracks not making the final cut on this album), and accordingly repurposed for JJ.

.

If there is a proper Jill Jones 'version', it has probably received more than one miscellaneous 1986-1989 era 'makeover', and overdubs (probably like 'Boom, Boom').

.

The truly elite collectors should have more information to yield. For instance, 'Vibrator' seems to segue into the beginning moments of a 'very high sound quality' 'G-Spot', and that this was a song tried out with a second Vanity 6 project in mind with Vanity vocals is a rumor that has floated around since the late 1980s (as has the commonly circulated leak of the source tapes), which to me at least gives some credence to these claims.

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[Edited 3/2/15 12:29pm]

Thanks for your thoughts on this topic. I'm also intrigued by the segue between Vibrator and G-Spot and what it may hint at cool

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