Lmao I'm gonna cry this subject about his hair has come up again Prince is a black dude Prince has naturally kinky hair Why is that so hard to understand for some people
Also, on the subject of black lives, the people that are like "But all lives matter!!", I'm a white girl from England and even I can see that police brutality against people of colour is a fucking issue in America. Of course, all lives matter. But in this case this is an awareness campaign that is waking people up to the realities of these things. | |
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JoshuaWho said:
That wouldnt be dismissive and insensitive if the issues around black lives were not completely different than those associated with non black lives. Black men are 21 times more likely to be killed by police than whites. But this isnt the forum - I started the thread because I thought it was cool that Prince and only Prince delivered such impact with only a few words. That is why I said:"in my mind". I was only speaking for myself. What I meant was that to me a person's skin color means nothing because we are all equal. I guess we all agree on that! And yes of course, being from Europe, I don't know much about racial relations in the US except what I see on the news- and the Ferguson riots were just another news item over here. Just like I don't expect everybody in America to talk about the terrorist attacks in Paris. | |
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You insightful observations show how alive racism truly is in this world even though some will try to tell you it doesnt matter anymore. | |
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Angelsoncrack said: Lmao I'm gonna cry this subject about his hair has come up again Prince is a black dude Prince has naturally kinky hair Why is that so hard to understand for some people
Also, on the subject of black lives, the people that are like "But all lives matter!!", I'm a white girl from England and even I can see that police brutality against people of colour is a fucking issue in America. Of course, all lives matter. But in this case this is an awareness campaign that is waking people up to the realities of these things. Well nice to know you're aware. | |
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Lost my job at Mickie D's
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FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent. | |
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I thought Prince would see things in infrared by now. Hundalasiliah! | |
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What is truly sad is that people would think he or any other person of color should NOT see color. We see proof that white people do every day. That is just how the world is and always has been. | |
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SuperSoulFighter said: JoshuaWho said:
That wouldnt be dismissive and insensitive if the issues around black lives were not completely different than those associated with non black lives. Black men are 21 times more likely to be killed by police than whites. But this isnt the forum - I started the thread because I thought it was cool that Prince and only Prince delivered such impact with only a few words. That is why I said:"in my mind". I was only speaking for myself. What I meant was that to me a person's skin color means nothing because we are all equal. I guess we all agree on that! And yes of course, being from Europe, I don't know much about racial relations in the US except what I see on the news- and the Ferguson riots were just another news item over here. Just like I don't expect everybody in America to talk about the terrorist attacks in Paris. Skin color DOES matter because we can't erase history. Everyone should be treated like equals YES but we shouldn't treat "race" as a myth because that thinking attempts to erase their struggle--you are dismissing a group of people and their history and identity when you say we're all the same. I'm white and have no idea what it's like to face that oppression. White is my identity and I know nothing of that struggle and won't dare to say "skin color doesn't matter" because it certainly matters to the people in power. | |
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honestly, i don't believe you have the intellectual capacity to comprehend or interpret even the simplest things that a dynamic thinker like Prince might say. His thoughts and actions are just contrary to your intellectual type. I would recommend that you stick with conformity and structure, i.e, charts and graphs. Trying to understand Prince will make your brain hurt! | |
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Just as the ruling class always wanted. Black/White, Gay/Straight, Women/Men, Rich/Poor, Muslim/Christian. Divide and conquer techniques. The society is too dumbed down to see it. What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet? | |
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LikeAHornyPonyWould69 said: SuperSoulFighter said: That is why I said:"in my mind". I was only speaking for myself. What I meant was that to me a person's skin color means nothing because we are all equal. I guess we all agree on that! And yes of course, being from Europe, I don't know much about racial relations in the US except what I see on the news- and the Ferguson riots were just another news item over here. Just like I don't expect everybody in America to talk about the terrorist attacks in Paris. Skin color DOES matter because we can't erase history. Everyone should be treated like equals YES but we shouldn't treat "race" as a myth because that thinking attempts to erase their struggle--you are dismissing a group of people and their history and identity when you say we're all the same. I'm white and have no idea what it's like to face that oppression. White is my identity and I know nothing of that struggle and won't dare to say "skin color doesn't matter" because it certainly matters to the people in power. Once again, I'm only speaking for myself. I never ever regarded white as my identity. I've been married to a Kenyan wife and never regarded black as her identity. European and African. That's the way I saw it and still see it. And now I've said what I want to say about it. Peace! Be wild! | |
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Well said - the concept is a complex one for which some people lack the capacity or the integrity to acknowledge. Arguing with them has been futile throughout history. But as you so eloquently asserted, history can not be denied or changed and it always matters. [Edited 2/9/15 9:31am] | |
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OldFriends4Sale said:
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Yes those lyrics reference more of an inner issue within the Black community, but I find that part of what Prince said about 'Black Lives Matter', last night, reflects part of the lyrics to his song 'Dreamer', which pretty much is saying how race is still an issue even years past the civil rights/MLK Jr. days, and today's current state of policing/police brutality and racial profiling, experience by many within the Black community. I think the reason why some may not be able to comprehend or relate to Prince's comments stated in the Grammys, is either because they are not aware of the state of race relations in this country or may be uncomfortable with Prince expressing his views on such topics. Dreamer Lyrics by Prince "I was born, raised on the same plantation In the United States, of the red, white and blue Never knew that I was different, till Dr. King was on a balcony Lyin' in a bloody pool I expected so much more from a loving A loving, loving society A truthful explanation, you know what I got another, another conspiracy If it was just a dream, listen, call me, call me a dreamer too With more rewards and accolades, then anyone before or after 21st century, oh what a shame, what a shame Race, race still matters A race to what, and where we going We in the same boat, but I'm the only one rowing Last time I checked, you were sleeping, but you can call me a dreamer too Peanut butter logic, served on a bed of lies Don't go down too easy, when you've seen your father cry Have you ever clutched the steering wheel in your car too tight Praying that police sirens just pass you by that night While the helicopter circles us, this theory's getting deep Think they're spraying chemicals over the city While we sleep Come on, I'm staying awake you can call me a dreamer too (Ahhh, I got one eye open for these devils)[/b] (Wake up, wake up) (I pledge allegiance, to..)" [Edited 2/9/15 10:04am] | |
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SuperFurryAnimal said:
Just as the ruling class always wanted. Black/White, Gay/Straight, Women/Men, Rich/Poor, Muslim/Christian. Divide and conquer techniques. The society is too dumbed down to see it. You can dream of your own Utopia but I will work towards a world where we can embrace our differences and not erase them | |
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plenty of members on the org like to be dismissive of his cultural relevance etc etc etc..in many circles, he is like EF Hutton, for him say that meant something to a lot of people..if you dont get it then you wont..when my 15 year old daughter and her frends got memes of the statement on their phones this morning it mattered..
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Yes, 'race' identity, ethnic situations are different depending on what part of the world we live | |
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Well the ruling class does not care about individuals, likely in the grand scheme what we think means nothing. As long as they can control the herd. Creating division has historically been used by the ruling class to control. When 1% control 99% of the wealth and they push division (Black/White, Gay/Straight, Women/Men, Rich/Poor, Muslim/Christian) and want more control I think we have big problems. [Edited 2/9/15 10:19am] What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet? | |
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I'm more curious whether he's read a book in the last 15 years other than the Bible. | |
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THANK U 1contessa..... I could not have said it better. | |
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My question is why did he have to wait until the Grammys (2015) to make the comment. Certainly a few months ago when the shit was really hitting the fan would have been more timely...
He certainly could have made the statement during his most recent SNL performance... A robin sings a masterpiece that lives and dies unheard... | |
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Becasue black lives dont just matter a few weeks after one has been snuffed out by police without recourse. SNL was not a spekaing engagement, it was a performance - one which didnt hardly garner the audience that the Grammys did. At some point, people get tired of being bombarded with social messages. Sound public relations and communications revovles around choosing the timing and delivery of messages; not just flying off the handle screaming or whining every time you get behind a mic or in front of a camera. Repeated ad nauseam, this approach can dilute the messages and compromise the image of the mesenger. Prince understands this. | |
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Averett said: My question is why did he have to wait until the Grammys (2015) to make the comment. Certainly a few months ago when the shit was really hitting the fan would have been more timely...
He certainly could have made the statement during his most recent SNL performance... The Grammys was centered around raising social consciousness about societal issues, according to ETOnline: http://m.etonline.com/awa..._violence/ | |
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I knew those three words would start a shitstorm here! "Never let nasty stalkers disrespect you. They start shit, you finish it. Go down to their level, that's the only way they'll understand. You have to handle things yourself." | |
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Speaking to the issue when its actually happening versus 2 to 3 months later seems like a more appropriate time. Prolonged silence with a comment only way after the fact seems pretty weak to me. And artist have used their musical performances on SNL to make social statements... as Sinead proved, you don't need to come onto SNL to speak in order to have a voice.
[Edited 2/9/15 11:27am] A robin sings a masterpiece that lives and dies unheard... | |
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I have no idea..... why you all are so upset... Prince 4Ever. | |
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Why rule book indicats what the "more appropriate time" is? How has the authority to dictate what is the most appropriate time to spekaon an issue that involves human lives and the impact on a race of Americans? Sinead proved how stupid and negative making a political point during a performance on SNL can be. People didnt want to hear that there adn she never recovered from it. It is the only thing she is remembered for despite a classic Prince hit. Again, Prince is entirely too smart to do something like this. All of his SNL performances were epic ad helped his career - which is what they are for. There is no comparison between that debacle and how Prince handles himself. | |
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What does it say about people who deny that Prince IS black and that he has a right to say so in public? | |
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why do you care so much? Seriously. | |
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