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Thread started 01/18/15 1:13pm

rusty1

Doesn't that WB deal last year seem like a cruel April fool's joke now?

What happened to the PR deluxe and the treasure strove of
Unreleased material. I thought the flood gates were going to open up.
It seems like it was all a cruel joke right now..
It's almost a year later with empty promises..
I'm surprised we even got those 2 new albums last year.
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Reply #1 posted 01/18/15 1:27pm

funksterr

Yep. It played out pretty much exactly as I thought it would at the time when fams were going crazy about the good things to come. I still don't think, in Prince's lifetime, we are ever getting remasters, outtakes, reunions or anything that doesn't strictly conform to JW beliefs.

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Reply #2 posted 01/18/15 1:30pm

Militant

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He just released TWO albums a few months ago.

The new single, "This Could Be Us" from one of those records, is going to radio now.

There's little point starting a campaign for another project now. Not while there's still life in this project.

Patience is a virtue.

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Reply #3 posted 01/18/15 1:52pm

Noodled24

Are there any details on the WB deal? As far as I know the details are very limited.

Has there ever been an official announcement of a Purple Rain reissue?

There has been no mention of outtakes being made available. That is fan invented hype. As are these empty "promises" you've been made.

[Edited 1/18/15 13:53pm]

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Reply #4 posted 01/18/15 1:58pm

Milty2

Why are some of you even remotely expecting Prince to follow thru on anything? Haven't you learned that he walks to the beat of his own drum?

This is so 2002.

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Reply #5 posted 01/18/15 3:34pm

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Militant said:

He just released TWO albums a few months ago.

The new single, "This Could Be Us" from one of those records, is going to radio now.

There's little point starting a campaign for another project now. Not while there's still life in this project.

Patience is a virtue.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
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Reply #6 posted 01/18/15 4:10pm

MIRvmn

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What's interesting is if Wb is goin to distribute also his next album,but I quess it won't happen if Prince refuse to release PR remaster
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Reply #7 posted 01/18/15 4:16pm

blacknote

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bluegangsta said:

Militant said:

He just released TWO albums a few months ago.

The new single, "This Could Be Us" from one of those records, is going to radio now.

There's little point starting a campaign for another project now. Not while there's still life in this project.

Patience is a virtue.

^^^And with this level of pretentiousness, we're supposed to expect something epic out of this "deal" with WB? I would not be offended if P would just stay far away from the reissue projects. Just release new music.

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Reply #8 posted 01/18/15 4:46pm

rusty1

The general public doesn't care about him.
Only us hardcore fans
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Reply #9 posted 01/18/15 4:48pm

funksterr

Militant said:

He just released TWO albums a few months ago.

The new single, "This Could Be Us" from one of those records, is going to radio now.

There's little point starting a campaign for another project now. Not while there's still life in this project.

Patience is a virtue.

Meh...excuses. Prince and WB announced PR and outtakes were coming out last year and didn't deliver. End of story.

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Reply #10 posted 01/18/15 6:39pm

jjam

I guess we'll never know what happened, but it's pretty clear that relations between Prince and WB soured very soon around the time of the release of both albums. Hardly any promo, the non-release of the "Funk'N'Roll" video/single. Who knows from here on...but it doesn't look good...

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Reply #11 posted 01/18/15 7:22pm

SoulAlive

Honestly,I think Prince just signed that deal so that he could get his master recordings.I doubt that we're gonna see too much more from this arrangement.Prince got what he wanted,now he'll try to ease his way out of it,lol

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Reply #12 posted 01/19/15 3:57am

Pentacle

SoulAlive said:

Honestly,I think Prince just signed that deal so that he could get his master recordings.I doubt that we're gonna see too much more from this arrangement.Prince got what he wanted,now he'll try to ease his way out of it,lol

he can't ease out of it.

that's the beauty of a contact. wouldn't it be great if WB ended up with paisley park?

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Reply #13 posted 01/19/15 5:37am

databank

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My take is Prince is infuriated by WB now having an "exclusive licence" on the old masters. Sure he owns them back and he therefore makes more money with sales, but in the end he's still not free to do whatever he wants with them (i.e. licence them to whomever he pleases and rerelease them the way he wants, or not at all). So he's trying to make the PR remaster release as delayed, difficult and painful as possible for WB, and he'll do that for everything WB will wish to remaster and rerelease, hoping they'll eventually get sick and tired of him and let him go out of the compulsary licence as soon as possible. Just a theory, but when u know P it makes kinda sense doesn't it?

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Reply #14 posted 01/19/15 6:20am

NouveauDance

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Look at the way Prince has treated all his album releases since Musicology. They're bargaining chips and nothing more.

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Reply #15 posted 01/19/15 6:28am

funkaholic1972

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Pentacle said:

SoulAlive said:

Honestly,I think Prince just signed that deal so that he could get his master recordings.I doubt that we're gonna see too much more from this arrangement.Prince got what he wanted,now he'll try to ease his way out of it,lol

he can't ease out of it.

that's the beauty of a contact. wouldn't it be great if WB ended up with paisley park?

Exactly, after their rocky history together I can't imagine WB signing a new deal with Prince without making sure all 'escape routes' are covered. Surely they will have made very clear arrangements about what will be delivered at which moment in time. I am still hopeful for remasters, it might take a bit longer than expected though.

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Reply #16 posted 01/19/15 6:33am

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Look at the way Prince has treated all his album releases since Musicology. They're bargaining chips and nothing more.

In retrospect, it seems strange that he was promoting the fuck out of Purple Rain in 2004 when no remaster was forthcoming. The Grammy performance celebrating 20 years of PR, the Musicology tour, in which he performed almost the entire PR album every night, the 20th Anniversary DVD of the movie. I feel like I'm forgetting something. And of course now that a remaster is (supposedly) forthcoming, he doesn't want to have shit to do with PR. lol

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #17 posted 01/19/15 8:53am

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You ain't lying. And that shit he released a few months ago, he could have kept that bullshit to himself.

Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #18 posted 01/19/15 10:45am

Noodled24

funksterr said:

Militant said:

He just released TWO albums a few months ago.

The new single, "This Could Be Us" from one of those records, is going to radio now.

There's little point starting a campaign for another project now. Not while there's still life in this project.

Patience is a virtue.

Meh...excuses. Prince and WB announced PR and outtakes were coming out last year and didn't deliver. End of story.



Do you have a link to when Prince said he was going to release those outtakes?

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Reply #19 posted 01/19/15 11:26am

Pentacle

Noodled24 said:

funksterr said:

Meh...excuses. Prince and WB announced PR and outtakes were coming out last year and didn't deliver. End of story.



Do you have a link to when Prince said he was going to release those outtakes?


Just check the original press release, on behalf of WB & Prince.

"long-awaited, previously unheard music" - yes, that could be take 6 of Happy Birthday, Mr Christian, or the (terrible) full-length/original versions of The Beautiful Ones and Purple Rain. But I think not.

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Reply #20 posted 01/19/15 12:15pm

Noodled24

Pentacle said:

Noodled24 said:



Do you have a link to when Prince said he was going to release those outtakes?


Just check the original press release, on behalf of WB & Prince.

"long-awaited, previously unheard music" - yes, that could be take 6 of Happy Birthday, Mr Christian, or the (terrible) full-length/original versions of The Beautiful Ones and Purple Rain. But I think not.

"Everyone at Warner Bros. Records is delighted to be working with Prince once again: he is one of the world's biggest stars and a truly unique talent" Warner Bros. Chairman and CEO Cameron Strang said in a statement. "We are also very excited about the release of new and remastered music from one of his greatest masterpieces."


Couldn't find the actual document but I only searched once. I can't find anything "Prince" has said. Other than his quote about looking forward and "It'd be nice for fans I guess" - Paraphrasing but the long and short of it being he sounded wholly unenthusiastic about it. So I just don't get these endless threads about how Prince has broken some imaginary promise?

The quote above is from WB. There hasn't been any official word on a release yet, just a vague announcement that it's planned (or more likely a stipulation in Prince's new contract requiring a PR Remaster in order for him to get his masters back).




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Reply #21 posted 01/19/15 12:39pm

Pentacle


It contained a quote that he was happy with the deal.

But you're right: no actual date was mentioned.

If it turns out he's not co-operating the he has indeed broken a promise. Luckily for us this was written down in a contract, so they can sue his purple forward-looking ass.

Unless he moves to Marz, that deluxe PR package is coming one way or the other.

amen.

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Reply #22 posted 01/19/15 12:45pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

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Militant said:

He just released TWO albums a few months ago.

The new single, "This Could Be Us" from one of those records, is going to radio now.

There's little point starting a campaign for another project now. Not while there's still life in this project.

Patience is a virtue.

giggle

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #23 posted 01/19/15 1:16pm

Adorecream

What about that superstar platinum mega hit release of the greatest Prince song since Purple Rain and Kiss - Boytrouble. That song is going to annihilate the charts and change the way people think about music. The generous single package includes the 2 minute 37 second edit of the track on Side A and a 1 minute message telling people to buy Plectrum electrum.

.

Included in this premium package is a deluxe single that also includes the smash hit high quality track Affirmation I and II from AOA. If this does not make you forget about Nicki Minaj or any other shit hopper and douche bag white frat boy band, we don't know what will.

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The singles will be printed on the cheapest possible CD's made in Laos by 4 year old girls chained to the floor and covers will say Prince - Boytrouble, with no other details. The singles will be shipped to stores and sold at a special price of $29.99 each. You can also order the single on line at Artofficialagejehovaripoff.com for $2.00 each + $19.95 Postage and Packaging + $8 Convenience of format fee + $50 compulsory donation to Jehovahs temple.

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The Deluxe edition showing a picture of Prince doing the fingers to you will cost $10 more. The song is guaranteed to spend 1 week at #999 on the Top 1000 Crap songs chart.

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Honestly this is why Prince does not have hits any more, he would actually do this shit if he could.

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Reply #24 posted 01/19/15 1:25pm

Pentacle


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Reply #25 posted 01/19/15 2:08pm

SoulAlive

Pentacle said:

SoulAlive said:

Honestly,I think Prince just signed that deal so that he could get his master recordings.I doubt that we're gonna see too much more from this arrangement.Prince got what he wanted,now he'll try to ease his way out of it,lol

he can't ease out of it.

that's the beauty of a contact. wouldn't it be great if WB ended up with paisley park?

All he has to do is change his name to an unpronouncable symbol and argue that "Prince" signed that contract,not him evillol

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Reply #26 posted 01/23/15 11:34am

rusty1

Still no unreleased material in our hands.
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Reply #27 posted 01/23/15 3:27pm

luvsexy4all

no release date mentioned..

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Reply #28 posted 01/23/15 5:18pm

KingSausage

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Adorecream said:

What about that superstar platinum mega hit release of the greatest Prince song since Purple Rain and Kiss - Boytrouble. That song is going to annihilate the charts and change the way people think about music. The generous single package includes the 2 minute 37 second edit of the track on Side A and a 1 minute message telling people to buy Plectrum electrum.


.


Included in this premium package is a deluxe single that also includes the smash hit high quality track Affirmation I and II from AOA. If this does not make you forget about Nicki Minaj or any other shit hopper and douche bag white frat boy band, we don't know what will.


.


The singles will be printed on the cheapest possible CD's made in Laos by 4 year old girls chained to the floor and covers will say Prince - Boytrouble, with no other details. The singles will be shipped to stores and sold at a special price of $29.99 each. You can also order the single on line at Artofficialagejehovaripoff.com for $2.00 each + $19.95 Postage and Packaging + $8 Convenience of format fee + $50 compulsory donation to Jehovahs temple.


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The Deluxe edition showing a picture of Prince doing the fingers to you will cost $10 more. The song is guaranteed to spend 1 week at #999 on the Top 1000 Crap songs chart.


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Honestly this is why Prince does not have hits any more, he would actually do this shit if he could.




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Reply #29 posted 01/23/15 10:17pm

SoulAlive

NouveauDance said:

Look at the way Prince has treated all his album releases since Musicology. They're bargaining chips and nothing more.

that's true

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