Aerogram said:

Graycap23 said:

KingSausage said:

TASKAE said: Nah. It's best if we all just admit that Prince got outPrinced here. Bad.

No such thing...............

And while I'm on the subject, the sounds that are trademark Prince sounds aren't even his sounds. Like the sitar-sounding series of notes in track #3, "The Charade." Those sounds never originated with Prince, but rather can be heard in some of the songs made famous by The Stylistics (You Make Me Feel Brand new, for example). Also, I'm listening to the Jill Scott track called "Sweet Justice," and it has the same sound. So how bout we keep it real for once on the org and get off this "he out-Princed Prince" mishugas.

daingermouz2020 said:

ohYeeeeeah said:

Can't you admit people have different tastes simply?

I know many people who love mlusic but connot stand Prince and D'Angelo or only like one of the two.

Personally I am a fan of The Rainbow Children, One nite alone, The Truth, LotusFlower and AOA.

yep, I suppose you're right It could be as simple as a matter of taste. But also for some I feel there is some hating going on. D isn't the first dude to come along to be compared to Prince. I too enjoyed some of the songs off TRC,Lotusflower, Come,Planet Earth,Chaos & Disorder but I would have to select songs from all these album to even come close to Brown Sugar,Voodoo or Black Messiah. But One Nite Alone is great.

That is not a matter of fact, it is a matter of opinion. Mine (opinion) is that The Rainbow Children, NEWS and Plectrumelectrum are MILES AND MILES above any D'Angelo album.

KingSausage said:

TASKAE said:

This is why the org exasperated me enough to leave a few years ago--you know NOTHING of what you speak, it's all just more of the ego pissing contest. NO, Prince did not get out-Princed! Let me repeat that--NO, PRINCE DID NOT GET OUTPRINCED! (I'd type it at about 100 point if the option was available). Just throw out that stinking bag of opinion out with the trash right now before it stinks up the whole house. D'Angelo does what every other person who tries to do Prince does--puts his own spin on what are now cliched "Prince sounds," which never harken to any other time period but the "classic period." Did Prince get lost in a world of troubles that made 15 years go by between albums (and no, I don't approve of Erykah Badu's "he records his own thing" comment)? No. Don't get me wrong, I am warming to the sounds of the album and heard my first latching on point in "Get It Done," but I expected to hear something greater than Voodoo, especially after all this time. I expected more than this being D'Angelo's Dirty Mind/Black Album period.

Nah. It's best if we all just admit that Prince got outPrinced here. Bad.

Dude. It's best you just stop speaking. You will never hear me saying this, because you're disguising fact as opinion, and it really works my last good gay nerve to hear people go there. Time out for you.

TASKAE said:

pureTsexy said:

Until Prince delivers an album equal to Purple Rain or Sign O the Times, you haters will continue to hate. Once you've stooped to giving more praise to D'angelo for an album that you openly admit sounds like a Prince album...there's pretty much no hope. I mean, do you not hear the absurd logic in this? Prince is not gonna put out another worldwide smash hit album, that everybody loves. Prince put out a good album with AOA, in my opinion. If it had gotten proper, strategic promotion..it would have been a bigger hit. Is it equal to Purple Rain? Absolutely not. Is it Prince at his best? Yes...it's Prince at his 2014 best. It's Prince at his best in his current state of creativity. It's Prince at his best is his current state of mind. It's Prince at his best, 36 years into his career, well over 30 commercial released albums into his career and Prince at his best at 56 years old. Dangelo isn't worthy of sweeping the floors at Paisley Park. He delivers one good "prince inspired" album, and suddenly Prince should be taking notes from him?! Sounds like Dangelo took the notes, and hence the reason he delivered a good album.

There's only about 3 songs that are Prince-ish. Most of it sounds more like Sly, but he put his own spin on it. Doesn't sound derivative. I will say that D out-Princed him on "The Charade". That song is so Prince, but it's better than anything on AOA and PE. "1000 Deaths" and "Ain't That Easy" sound like Controversy era mixed with ATWIAD era.

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Ego101 said:

**THIS**

Is interesting to me..

Because ive been hearing Andy go on about Shit Hop and Plastic toy drums & fake Bass

for a DECADE!!!!

But this is Totally Computer Produced Music using Digital tools..

I thought you were a Lover of Only Live Bass & Drums?

Its interesting to find out that its less the way a 'Sound' is acheived & more the end result.

Cool!

vainandy said:

Hell, that's pure orgasm right there. Exactly the type of stuff I want.

I've always loved the Linn drum machine if it's used in the right kind of way. I like plenty of other stuff with drum machines such as house music which is mostly drum machines. I love some Donna Summer type disco such as "I Feel Love", "Sunset People", "Our Love", etc. which is drum machines. I love some Gary Numan "Cars", very furutistic sounding. Hell, there's even loads of rap I love also such as Soul Sonic Force, Twilight 22, Egyptian Lover, etc. If it's gonna be drum machines though, it's gotta be strong sounding drum machines with some punch to them. It's the shit hop sounding drum machines that I hate which just barely tap and sound like some sort of Fisher Price toy. If something even resembles the type of drum machines these shit hoppers have been using since the 90s, I can't tolerate it in the least.

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Hell, I was listening to this last night and it absolutely had my ears having an orgasm....

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https://soundcloud.com/al...soundcheck

murph said:

vainandy said:

I haven't heard it, but if he's the same D'Angelo I used to hear on the radio in the 1990s and early 2000s, there's probably not a fast ass shaker on the entire album and just some "smooth" midtempo neo stool. As horrible as "Fart Official Age" is, at least it has one ass shaker, "The Gold Standard". But if there are some ass shakers on D'Angelo's latest, let me know so I can check them out because ass shakers are rare these days.

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Nah....Black Messiah is far removed from those tired "neo soul" tags...The funk is strong on this one....

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I went to youtube last night and listened to several tracks from the album just to see what all the fuss was about. If there was a funk track on the album, I most have overlooked it. What I heard was a snoozefest of slow to midtempo that sounded like something a bunch of stuffy folks would sit around a lounge and listen to while sipping wine and trying to act all "cultured" while simply bobbing their heads.

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I didn't hear one single song that had a feel of folks coming down the Soul Train line and shaking the hell out of some asses while everyone hollers....."Aww hell yeah. You better work bitch! Work! Work! Work dammitt!"....Now, something that's got a feel like that is some funky shit. Some uptempo, get down, party, and shake ass till you drop type stuff, not some smooth lounge lizzards sitting around trying to be all saddity. Hell, that dull stuff wore the buzz off my drunk ass.

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vainandy said:

murph said:

Nah....Black Messiah is far removed from those tired "neo soul" tags...The funk is strong on this one....

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I went to youtube last night and listened to several tracks from the album just to see what all the fuss was about. If there was a funk track on the album, I most have overlooked it. What I heard was a snoozefest of slow to midtempo that sounded like something a bunch of stuffy folks would sit around a lounge and listen to while sipping wine and trying to act all "cultured" while simply bobbing their heads.

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I didn't hear one single song that had a feel of folks coming down the Soul Train line and shaking the hell out of some asses while everyone hollers....."Aww hell yeah. You better work bitch! Work! Work! Work dammitt!"....Now, something that's got a feel like that is some funky shit. Some uptempo, get down, party, and shake ass till you drop type stuff, not some smooth lounge lizzards sitting around trying to be all saddity. Hell, that dull stuff wore the buzz off my drunk ass.

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Oh my damn....

I think that's one of the issues I'm having too though. Gimmie a lil sumpthin, sumpthin up tempo please.

Don't tell Gray but I have the same issue with Mint...one of the finest bands ever, but way too many ballads for me.

vainandy said:

murph said:

Nah....Black Messiah is far removed from those tired "neo soul" tags...The funk is strong on this one....

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I went to youtube last night and listened to several tracks from the album just to see what all the fuss was about. If there was a funk track on the album, I most have overlooked it. What I heard was a snoozefest of slow to midtempo that sounded like something a bunch of stuffy folks would sit around a lounge and listen to while sipping wine and trying to act all "cultured" while simply bobbing their heads.

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I didn't hear one single song that had a feel of folks coming down the Soul Train line and shaking the hell out of some asses while everyone hollers....."Aww hell yeah. You better work bitch! Work! Work! Work dammitt!"....Now, something that's got a feel like that is some funky shit. Some uptempo, get down, party, and shake ass till you drop type stuff, not some smooth lounge lizzards sitting around trying to be all saddity. Hell, that dull stuff wore the buzz off my drunk ass.

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The blues, jazz, rnb, soul, funk, rock & roll, and hip hop all started off as dance music. All these genres were taken away from their roots to be taken more "seriously." Now all dance music has been concetrated into the EDM category and other genres don't even try to compete for the dance flloor. In fact, r nb and pop singles are remixed to an edm sounds so they can get club play. Hell, do artists even make their own club remixes anymore?

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babynoz said:

vainandy said:

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I went to youtube last night and listened to several tracks from the album just to see what all the fuss was about. If there was a funk track on the album, I most have overlooked it. What I heard was a snoozefest of slow to midtempo that sounded like something a bunch of stuffy folks would sit around a lounge and listen to while sipping wine and trying to act all "cultured" while simply bobbing their heads.

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I didn't hear one single song that had a feel of folks coming down the Soul Train line and shaking the hell out of some asses while everyone hollers....."Aww hell yeah. You better work bitch! Work! Work! Work dammitt!"....Now, something that's got a feel like that is some funky shit. Some uptempo, get down, party, and shake ass till you drop type stuff, not some smooth lounge lizzards sitting around trying to be all saddity. Hell, that dull stuff wore the buzz off my drunk ass.

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Oh my damn....

I think that's one of the issues I'm having too though. Gimmie a lil sumpthin, sumpthin up tempo please.

Don't tell Gray but I have the same issue with Mint...one of the finest bands ever, but way too many ballads for me.

Agreed. All of Mint's dance joints are on 12' remixes which they stopped doing when the digital age took over music.

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Graycap23 said:

babynoz said:

Oh my damn....

I think that's one of the issues I'm having too though. Gimmie a lil sumpthin, sumpthin up tempo please.

Don't tell Gray but I have the same issue with Mint...one of the finest bands ever, but way too many ballads for me.

Agreed. All of Mint's dance joints are on 12' remixes which they stopped doing when the digital age took pver music.

I don't know any Mint. I feel like I'm missing out.

KingSausage said:

Graycap23 said:

Agreed. All of Mint's dance joints are on 12' remixes which they stopped doing when the digital age took pver music.

I don't know any Mint. I feel like I'm missing out.

U know what u need 2 do.

KingSausage said:

Graycap23 said:

Agreed. All of Mint's dance joints are on 12' remixes which they stopped doing when the digital age took pver music.

I don't know any Mint. I feel like I'm missing out.

U know what u need 2 do.

1725topp said:

If this is the best that Allen Leeds can do for D'Angelo, I'm glad the he's no longer with Prince.

you realize Alan is a tour manager right? And Chris Rock. Both who are doing pretty well right now.
What does he have to do with the music? Or the comedy?

D definitely outmumbles Prince.

KingSausage said:

Graycap23 said:

Agreed. All of Mint's dance joints are on 12' remixes which they stopped doing when the digital age took pver music.

I don't know any Mint. I feel like I'm missing out.

I think their most diverse cd is Livin The Luxury Brown, (do you agree, Gray?)....you might wanna start with that one and go from there if you like it.

This is Very nice to know! & it even helps me w/my own work.. thank you Andy!

vainandy said:

Ego101 said:

**THIS**

Is interesting to me..

Because ive been hearing Andy go on about Shit Hop and Plastic toy drums & fake Bass

for a DECADE!!!!

But this is Totally Computer Produced Music using Digital tools..

I thought you were a Lover of Only Live Bass & Drums?

Its interesting to find out that its less the way a 'Sound' is acheived & more the end result.

Cool!

I've always loved the Linn drum machine if it's used in the right kind of way. I like plenty of other stuff with drum machines such as house music which is mostly drum machines. I love some Donna Summer type disco such as "I Feel Love", "Sunset People", "Our Love", etc. which is drum machines. I love some Gary Numan "Cars", very furutistic sounding. Hell, there's even loads of rap I love also such as Soul Sonic Force, Twilight 22, Egyptian Lover, etc. If it's gonna be drum machines though, it's gotta be strong sounding drum machines with some punch to them. It's the shit hop sounding drum machines that I hate which just barely tap and sound like some sort of Fisher Price toy. If something even resembles the type of drum machines these shit hoppers have been using since the 90s, I can't tolerate it in the least.

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Hell, I was listening to this last night and it absolutely had my ears having an orgasm....

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https://soundcloud.com/al...soundcheck

babynoz said:

lwr001 said:

Graycap23 said:

This Prince bashing is played out.

At the end of the day, Prince is seriously taken 4 granted by his fans.

It is the main reason why u see silly threads like "what u would do 2 save his career" and the like.

Prince at this point in his career will only be appreciated when he is gone.

awww for fucks sake,,you know whats played out, not promoting albums that you put out..starting and stoppng projects, tweet and deletes..etc i can go on and on...thats played out and the fans are the ones taken for granted my friend

awww for fuck's sake, you know what's played out even more than that? Whining about not promoting albums and starting/stopping projects, tweets and deletes. You can go on, and so can I. You're played out and you're the ones who are taking not only Prince for granted, but the people here at the org. You and the rest of the MJ hologram fan club need to STAAAAAHP! Whanny whanny whaaaaaaaaaaaa!

TASKAE said:

lwr001 said:

awww for fucks sake,,you know whats played out, not promoting albums that you put out..starting and stoppng projects, tweet and deletes..etc i can go on and on...thats played out and the fans are the ones taken for granted my friend

awww for fuck's sake, you know what's played out even more than that? Whining about not promoting albums and starting/stopping projects, tweets and deletes. You can go on, and so can I. You're played out and you're the ones who are taking not only Prince for granted, but the people here at the org. You and the rest of the MJ hologram fan club need to STAAAAAHP! Whanny whanny whaaaaaaaaaaaa!

i dont give a fuck what he does..it his life..get a hold of yourself fucking cheerleader.. I think its funny that he ran away; there..it is.. secondly , even funnier is a quote from a reporter to Donna saying during an interview, you know he crazy and you will find out you've been fired on twitter... Really, we taking Prince for granted,,there is a movie with Anthony Hopkins, Al;ec Baldwin etc..they are in Alaska and the bears are tryng to eat them..Alec goes to Anthony that he feels sorry for him and Anthony goes never feel sorry for a man with his own airplane..

vainandy said:

murph said:

Nah....Black Messiah is far removed from those tired "neo soul" tags...The funk is strong on this one....

.

I went to youtube last night and listened to several tracks from the album just to see what all the fuss was about. If there was a funk track on the album, I most have overlooked it. What I heard was a snoozefest of slow to midtempo that sounded like something a bunch of stuffy folks would sit around a lounge and listen to while sipping wine and trying to act all "cultured" while simply bobbing their heads.

.

I didn't hear one single song that had a feel of folks coming down the Soul Train line and shaking the hell out of some asses while everyone hollers....."Aww hell yeah. You better work bitch! Work! Work! Work dammitt!"....Now, something that's got a feel like that is some funky shit. Some uptempo, get down, party, and shake ass till you drop type stuff, not some smooth lounge lizzards sitting around trying to be all saddity. Hell, that dull stuff wore the buzz off my drunk ass.

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lwr001 said:

TASKAE said:

awww for fuck's sake, you know what's played out even more than that? Whining about not promoting albums and starting/stopping projects, tweets and deletes. You can go on, and so can I. You're played out and you're the ones who are taking not only Prince for granted, but the people here at the org. You and the rest of the MJ hologram fan club need to STAAAAAHP! Whanny whanny whaaaaaaaaaaaa!

i dont give a fuck what he does..it his life..get a hold of yourself fucking cheerleader.. I think its funny that he ran away; there..it is.. secondly , even funnier is a quote from a reporter to Donna saying during an interview, you know he crazy and you will find out you've been fired on twitter... Really, we taking Prince for granted,,there is a movie with Anthony Hopkins, Al;ec Baldwin etc..they are in Alaska and the bears are tryng to eat them..Alec goes to Anthony that he feels sorry for him and Anthony goes never feel sorry for a man with his own airplane..

I am not being a cheerleader and I'm not upset (I don't get upset at this stuff, it's all a fun game at me), I am just throwing you shade for being a jeerleader. Just have a drink or smoke something and RELAX!

TASKAE said:

Graycap23 said:

No such thing...............

And while I'm on the subject, the sounds that are trademark Prince sounds aren't even his sounds. Like the sitar-sounding series of notes in track #3, "The Charade." Those sounds never originated with Prince, but rather can be heard in some of the songs made famous by The Stylistics (You Make Me Feel Brand new, for example). Also, I'm listening to the Jill Scott track called "Sweet Justice," and it has the same sound. So how bout we keep it real for once on the org and get off this "he out-Princed Prince" mishugas.

I posted this earlier about the Another Love version on PE...

From the baseline reference to D'Angelo's Brown Sugar album it is hard for me to imagine that Prince's version of Another Love is the standard finger in the air commentary. I could be grasping at straws but the base as played by ? Prince, Donna or Ida ? does allude to the creeping base of D'Angelo's earlier work. Since the PE cd was stamped with the same baseline, Another Love could merely be a promotion of that artist's work (Vanguard BM)... So, I am of the opinion that someone at least knew the Vanguard BM album was ready for a release.

Prince's influence on D'Angelo is blown waaay out of proportion at the Org.

D'angelo Clearly wishes he were Prince!

duccichucka said:

Prince's influence on D'Angelo is blown waaay out of proportion at the Org.

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Ego101 said:

duccichucka said:

Prince's influence on D'Angelo is blown waaay out of proportion at the Org.

How unlike them, huh? <sarcasm>