Prince has sounded like every other R&B artist since Emancipation.

callimnate said:

Prince has sounded like every other R&B artist since Emancipation.

For the record, this wasn't a bash post, it simply posed the ? if he heard an advance copy considering Jesse and John B play with D, I am sure he did.. Once again, I like AOA, however, I am not the one who bailed, he did. Moreover, he bailed on what can arguably be the best reviewed music by fan and critics alike for many years..He is the one who issued these discs DOA,not the org, twitter, WB etc..He did the stupid Yahoo thing, he did the stupid Q&A..and ultimately, he bailed and flacked on his material because he didnt have faith in it.

..better than having 14 years of crap songs...

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Scarfo said:

..better than having 14 years of crap songs...

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Yet...............u are still here.

Come to think of it, I would feel better if they said he was addicted to pain killers, crack etc, then we have a viable reason for the behavior..

lwr001 said:

Come to think of it, I would feel better if they said he was addicted to pain killers, crack etc, then we have a viable reason for the behavior..

Nah, even that won't be a good excuse. I have alcoholic and drug-addicted relatives, that don't behave in such an asshole manner, as Prince. We're seeing why Prince can't maintain relationships with people. Look at his relationships. Look at how he goes through band members. Look at how he goes through record labels. Dude is just an asshole, plain and simple. Hell, folks might overlook his obvious personality flaws if he was putting out good music, but he don't even do that anymore.

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Scarfo said:

lwr001 said:

Come to think of it, I would feel better if they said he was addicted to pain killers, crack etc, then we have a viable reason for the behavior..

Nah, even that won't be a good excuse. I have alcoholic and drug-addicted relatives, that don't behave in such an asshole manner, as Prince. We're seeing why Prince can't maintain relationships with people. Look at his relationships. Look at how he goes through band members. Look at how he goes through record labels. Dude is just an asshole, plain and simple. Hell, folks might overlook his obvious personality flaws if he was putting out good music, but he don't even do that anymore.

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Ok....let's take your comments at face value.

Why are u still on a site of an artist that u don't care for?

Graycap23 said:

Scarfo said:

Nah, even that won't be a good excuse. I have alcoholic and drug-addicted relatives, that don't behave in such an asshole manner, as Prince. We're seeing why Prince can't maintain relationships with people. Look at his relationships. Look at how he goes through band members. Look at how he goes through record labels. Dude is just an asshole, plain and simple. Hell, folks might overlook his obvious personality flaws if he was putting out good music, but he don't even do that anymore.

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Ok....let's take your comments at face value.

Why are u still on a site of an artist that u don't care for?

because I can. It's as simple as that.

Scarfo said:

Graycap23 said:

Ok....let's take your comments at face value.

Why are u still on a site of an artist that u don't care for?

because I can. It's as simple as that.

Ok.

If that makes sense 2 u....more power.

It seems counter productive.

1725topp said:

Okay, after giving Black Messiah a good listen, I am now convinced that you people are either drunk on Hater-Aid or actually strung out on Crack if y'all think that Black Messiah deserves even to be mentioned with Prince's lesser work. While I think that D'Angelo is very talented, the ultimate problem is that every time I hear a "new" D'Angelo song I always have the feeling that I've heard this before. Or, to put it another way, I keep waiting for D'Angelo to do something that he hasn't done before, and, as of yet, he hasn't done it. Black Messiah sounds like Voodoo outtakes or Brown Sugar outtakes. I literally cannot distinguish one song from another. I know that some of y'all are just being "tongue and cheek" with the whole "this should challenge Prince to return to his form," but all Black Messiah did was made me sleepy. The thing that I love most about Prince is that just about every song on an album is somehow different than the other songs on the album, and that may make Prince too eclectic for some, but it keeps my interest. After about five songs of Black Messiah I had to remind myself that I wasn't listening to Voodoo, and after two more songs I wasn't sure if I still wasn't listening to one long song. Y'all may fault Prince for "chasing" current sounds, but Black Messiah sounds like all D'Angelo did was reheat some old grooves. The problem is that fourteen year old food should not be reheated, simply discarded. If this is the best that Allen Leeds can do for D'Angelo, I'm glad the he's no longer with Prince.

Most rationale opinion I've read regarding D'Angelo's new release. On point!

Taurus said:

1725topp said:

Okay, after giving Black Messiah a good listen, I am now convinced that you people are either drunk on Hater-Aid or actually strung out on Crack if y'all think that Black Messiah deserves even to be mentioned with Prince's lesser work. While I think that D'Angelo is very talented, the ultimate problem is that every time I hear a "new" D'Angelo song I always have the feeling that I've heard this before. Or, to put it another way, I keep waiting for D'Angelo to do something that he hasn't done before, and, as of yet, he hasn't done it. Black Messiah sounds like Voodoo outtakes or Brown Sugar outtakes. I literally cannot distinguish one song from another. I know that some of y'all are just being "tongue and cheek" with the whole "this should challenge Prince to return to his form," but all Black Messiah did was made me sleepy. The thing that I love most about Prince is that just about every song on an album is somehow different than the other songs on the album, and that may make Prince too eclectic for some, but it keeps my interest. After about five songs of Black Messiah I had to remind myself that I wasn't listening to Voodoo, and after two more songs I wasn't sure if I still wasn't listening to one long song. Y'all may fault Prince for "chasing" current sounds, but Black Messiah sounds like all D'Angelo did was reheat some old grooves. The problem is that fourteen year old food should not be reheated, simply discarded. If this is the best that Allen Leeds can do for D'Angelo, I'm glad the he's no longer with Prince.

Most rationale opinion I've read regarding D'Angelo's new release. On point!

Co-sign.

callimnate said:

Prince has sounded like every other R&B artist since Emancipation.

Please...........let me know where I can find another artist that sounds like The Rainbow Children, or Lotus Flower, or AOA, or NEWS or EXodus, or 3121.............PLEASE.

I'll wait.

Graycap23 said:

callimnate said:

Prince has sounded like every other R&B artist since Emancipation.

Please...........let me know where I can find another artist that sounds like The Rainbow Children, or Lotus Flower, or AOA, or NEWS or EXodus, or 3121.............PLEASE.

I'll wait.

yep, inaccurate statement

Graycap23 said:

Scarfo said:

because I can. It's as simple as that.

Ok.

If that makes sense 2 u....more power.

It seems counter productive.

It's funny this poster having all these issues with prince. Supposedly Prince is an asshole who makes bad music yet this poster is addicted to talking about him.

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Obviously the person with real issues is the poster themselves. It so plain to see. Trolls in general are people with serious emotional/mental issues.

Graycap23 said:

callimnate said:

Prince has sounded like every other R&B artist since Emancipation.

Please...........let me know where I can find another artist that sounds like The Rainbow Children, or Lotus Flower, or AOA, or NEWS or EXodus, or 3121.............PLEASE.

I'll wait.

Exactly. That statement has absolutely no basis in reality.

tricky99 said:

Graycap23 said:

Ok.

If that makes sense 2 u....more power.

It seems counter productive.

It's funny this poster having all these issues with prince. Supposedly Prince is an asshole who makes bad music yet this poster is addicted to talking about him.

*

Obviously the person with real issues is the poster themselves. It so plain to see. Trolls in general are people with serious emotional/mental issues.

I think what we mean when we say 'out princing prince' is that Black Messiah a whole album of meaningful lyrics that are slipped into your ears like honey in hot tea that make ya wanna wanna wanna ...arent we waiting for Prince to seduce us again?


D'Angelos music is never sleepy, its sexy as hell. D'Angelo has influences, but he has his own sound, and the songs work together, but imo that makes for a cohesive record that works well with the other two, and thats art....imo.

terrig said:

I think what we mean when we say 'out princing prince' is that Black Messiah a whole album of meaningful lyrics that are slipped into your ears like honey in hot tea that make ya wanna wanna wanna ...arent we waiting for Prince to seduce us again?


D'Angelos music is never sleepy, its sexy as hell. D'Angelo has influences, but he has his own sound, and the songs work together, but imo that makes for a cohesive record that works well with the other two, and thats art....imo.

There is another thread mentionning D'Angelo's cd.

I'm quite disappointed by BM. I really dig D'Angelo but there is no real evolution since Brown Sugar. He is groove writer but not a proper song writer. After all these years, he is using the same recipe with drums, percussions, bass and vocal layers. By the way, it is nearly impossible to hear what he sings about. Mumbling.

I'm happy to listen to his new stuff and I really like this guy but he does not have the range and the diversity Sly, Stevie and P have.

Still a great talent though.

joyinrepetition said:

Nobody can out Prince Prince! Everybody does there best impression of what they think is Prince. Now some artist do a good job at trying to sound like Prince like D'Angelo but end the end they're all playing catch up. Prince changes his sound and plays whatever he pleases in any style/genre of music. He's done the Prince/Minneapolis funk sound, jazz, R and B, Rock, pop etc. When I see other artist do that, then maybe, maybe we can have a discussion about somebody out Princing Prince.

Interesting point of view. To me the only one who has managed to approach that is Andre 3000 with The Love Below. Fantastic album with great skills, very diverse and all. But D'Angelo is very repetitive in his way of building his grooves (sorry but to me they are grooves and rarely proper songs) and he is using the same tricks over and over again. But his music is still very enjoyable.

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Graycap23 said:

tricky99 said:

We could do a straight-up poll on here to settle this once and for all.

For me:

AOA=B

PE=C+

BM=A

iZsaZsa said:

tricky99 said:

It's funny this poster having all these issues with prince. Supposedly Prince is an asshole who makes bad music yet this poster is addicted to talking about him.

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Obviously the person with real issues is the poster themselves. It so plain to see. Trolls in general are people with serious emotional/mental issues.

It's for the attention orgers provide. So don't.

Yep.

Graycap23 said:

iZsaZsa said:

tricky99 said: It's for the attention orgers provide. So don't.

Yep.

if by mental illness, you mean i started this thread with the sole purpose of rousing the masses as i sit here at work eating popcorn, drinking soda, then yes, i am a sick mfer

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tun me loose is betta than anything on Mess-iah

m33kn3ss said:

No one will ever be as great as Prince, and even Prince knows it:

Ask ur mother ur sister ur brotha
There'll never b another
Never b another like me

...And it's songs like the one you reference that turn Prince into a laughing stock and allow historical albums like Black Messiah make him look silly.

iZsaZsa said:

It's like the time Chaka Khan said some fool told her to sing like Ashanti or Faith or somebody. It's like that.