lwr001 said:

vinaysfunk said:

Finally a voice of reason. Skywalker to the rescue. Rarely do I disagree with you. Now do me favor and take out your light saber and cut down a few P haters around here. These guys just bring down the whole vibe of this "fan community site!" I wont name names. I don't have to.

not a hater at all.. he ran from his current projects for a reason..had nothing to do with any of us on here..

lol, awesome rebuttal! So much truth in this comment!

lwr001 said:

Graycap23 said:

I'm talking strickly about the music.

Prince has burned and created many bridges over the years. I understand that very well.

thats what i am saying ...he bought the scorn on himself..

indeed. yes he did.

We say this every time D'Angelo releases an album. It's just that he doesn't do it very often.

I've been hearing that so and so outPrinces Prince since Ready For the World. I don't think D'Angelo would particularly care to be a mere Prince regurgitator who does it better, he's far more than that except he seriously needs to catch up on output. Just imagine the record Prince would put out if he waited 14 years...

If TRC (one of my favourite albums ever) was in response to Voodoo, then by all means I hope Prince is busy locked up inside Paisley Park, recording his response to Black Messiah. On that note, 'Prayer' is the sort of song I wish Prince was making. Murky, experimental, sort of eerie guitar soaked funk


For me, the synth sound at the start of 'The Charade' reminded me of the end of 'Positivity'. And, 'Till It's Done (Tutu)' reminded me a lot of 'The Balad of Dorothy Parker', (one of my favourite songs ever).

Black Messiah is a brilliant album that I'm very excited by, but D'Angelo hasn't out-Princed Prince.

D'Angelo only really references one aspect of Prince's musical range. Besides, D'Angelo has his own distinctive stamp all over Black Messiah. He's not merely a Prince impersonator, though the influence is obvious.

Prince probably sees D'angelo as a son that he's proud of.

At the end of the day his big influence on amazing artists is part of his legacy

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The thing is D'Angelo is doing stuff now that Prince has done before several times over. People complain when Prince dabbles in his own past, but praise other artists who try to emulate his sound. When Prince goes for a more modern sound, he is accused of pandering to a young audience.

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Scarfo said:

If Prince did, then he will hear how great he used to be. He should be rewinding every track and take notes.

But Prince has never released an album that sounds like Black Messiah (Or Voodoo), so why would we expect him to now?

I listened to it and no, Prince doesn't have anythng to worry about and I don't think its the greatest thing in music this year. It's good but not great. I hear a lot of the usual D'Angelo stuff on it and some quirky stuff - i just hope its not quirky just for the sake of being quirky.

Anyway...

few things.

d'angelo's new record is great but it's more sly than prince.

the thing is prince has become too polished for murky, experimental recordings.

It's not so much about him making D's album but making something good and from his soul. AOA and PE are good but they are not better than Black Messiah. Also, why the hell bitch and moan for 2 years about a project, drop 2 albums on the same day then disappear? these games are getting old...we're talking 30 years old. no tour. no tv or radio. no promo at all really. wtf?

at least d'angelo is going on tour to support his record.

lrn36 said:

Unfortunatley new threads like this just give the P and AOA haters another reason to bitch and bitch bitch

boring...boring...borrriiing

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You are all dissing Prince. I'm defending him.

I think if anything Prince is very happy I mean songs like The Charade sound like Prince wrote it! Questlove and D'angelo made a record influenced by their musical hero's and Prince is certainly borrowed from and acknowledge just like Sly, Stevie, James Brown, etc. As far as the record influencing Prince himself, I don't think so, it will only make him veer more away from it because they did so well. It doesn't need to be expounded on if guys are doing well at it already. What is interesting is that Prince fans see this as a negative reflection on Prince but in reality it was Prince that oddly challenged D'angelo to play better and learn other instruments. When your hero challenges you and you produce great work to either spite him or thank him then so be it. We, the fans, have the art to listen to and that is all that matters.

You guys must be seriously bored...

I'm digging Black Messiah. I'm sure this will get more spins than AOA. I think it already has in one day. Welcome back, D'Angelo. Prince, it's time to get serious again. Fuck all the bitches and the bullshit.

lwr001 said:

Okay, after giving Black Messiah a good listen, I am now convinced that you people are either drunk on Hater-Aid or actually strung out on Crack if y'all think that Black Messiah deserves even to be mentioned with Prince's lesser work. While I think that D'Angelo is very talented, the ultimate problem is that every time I hear a "new" D'Angelo song I always have the feeling that I've heard this before. Or, to put it another way, I keep waiting for D'Angelo to do something that he hasn't done before, and, as of yet, he hasn't done it. Black Messiah sounds like Voodoo outtakes or Brown Sugar outtakes. I literally cannot distinguish one song from another. I know that some of y'all are just being "tongue and cheek" with the whole "this should challenge Prince to return to his form," but all Black Messiah did was made me sleepy. The thing that I love most about Prince is that just about every song on an album is somehow different than the other songs on the album, and that may make Prince too eclectic for some, but it keeps my interest. After about five songs of Black Messiah I had to remind myself that I wasn't listening to Voodoo, and after two more songs I wasn't sure if I still wasn't listening to one long song. Y'all may fault Prince for "chasing" current sounds, but Black Messiah sounds like all D'Angelo did was reheat some old grooves. The problem is that fourteen year old food should not be reheated, simply discarded. If this is the best that Allen Leeds can do for D'Angelo, I'm glad the he's no longer with Prince.

dannyd5050 said:

I'm digging Black Messiah. I'm sure this will get more spins than AOA. I think it already has in one day. Welcome back, D'Angelo. Prince, it's time to get serious again. Fuck all the bitches and the bullshit.

I haven't heard the new D'Angelo CD yet,but I agree with this point.I said this in another thread: the gimmicks,the games,the young female bandmembers....all these distractions sometimes get in the way.I like parts of AOA,but I know that Prince can do better.

Just downloaded and listed to Black Messiah in full a few times. If you like D'Angelo's other albums, you'll like this.

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If you like it better than what Prince is doing, you probably like D'Angelo better than Prince. I mean, Black Messiah is nice. It's just kinda the same ol' same ol' D'Angelo.

1725topp said:

Okay, after giving Black Messiah a good listen, I am now convinced that you people are either drunk on Hater-Aid or actually strung out on Crack if y'all think that Black Messiah deserves even to be mentioned with Prince's lesser work. While I think that D'Angelo is very talented, the ultimate problem is that every time I hear a "new" D'Angelo song I always have the feeling that I've heard this before. Or, to put it another way, I keep waiting for D'Angelo to do something that he hasn't done before, and, as of yet, he hasn't done it. Black Messiah sounds like Voodoo outtakes or Brown Sugar outtakes. I literally cannot distinguish one song from another. I know that some of y'all are just being "tongue and cheek" with the whole "this should challenge Prince to return to his form," but all Black Messiah did was made me sleepy. The thing that I love most about Prince is that just about every song on an album is somehow different than the other songs on the album, and that may make Prince too eclectic for some, but it keeps my interest. After about five songs of Black Messiah I had to remind myself that I wasn't listening to Voodoo, and after two more songs I wasn't sure if I still wasn't listening to one long song. Y'all may fault Prince for "chasing" current sounds, but Black Messiah sounds like all D'Angelo did was reheat some old grooves. The problem is that fourteen year old food should not be reheated, simply discarded. If this is the best that Allen Leeds can do for D'Angelo, I'm glad the he's no longer with Prince.

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To each their own but I don't see what the big fuss is with Black Messiah at all. It's not the 2nd coming or anything. (no pun) It's definatley a good listen and all but way over-hyped here @ the Org.

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All the shit Prince takes about AOA being lame and he's had years to come up with something better. Well on that note I feel Black Messiah is underwhelming when he's had 14 years.

SmiggyG said:

Graycap23 said:

This Prince bashing is played out.

At the end of the day, Prince is seriously taken 4 granted by his fans.

It is the main reason why u see silly threads like "what u would do 2 save his career" and the like.

Prince at this point in his career will only be appreciated when he is gone.

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so true... a few people, whom im sure have not reached the levels of success Prince has, spend real time conjuring and imagining ways to "rescue his career", a career that hasnt needed their rescue over the first 37 years or so....then, when that is proven to be a fruitless endeavor, they troll for grammatical errors and shoot blanks at harmless ellipses....its quite comical....

he owes us nothing

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I was never able to really get into D's music, but I respect his contributions to music. And, yes, I think Prince did buy Black Messiah.

lwr001 said:

Graycap23 said:

This Prince bashing is played out.

At the end of the day, Prince is seriously taken 4 granted by his fans.

It is the main reason why u see silly threads like "what u would do 2 save his career" and the like.

Prince at this point in his career will only be appreciated when he is gone.

awww for fucks sake,,you know whats played out, not promoting albums that you put out..starting and stoppng projects, tweet and deletes..etc i can go on and on...thats played out and the fans are the ones taken for granted my friend

Yeah, said in comparison to a guy who's so self-centered and disengaged, he's finally released some new music after what, a 14 year absence? Pot, let me introudce you to kettle...

Oh, and "Black Messiah" is damn good. It's just not Prince level good...

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KingSausage said:

I love AOA, but I think Black Messiah is much stronger.

You know you're my boy, but a strongly disagree. While "BM" is damn good, "AOA" is much more diverse. Broader range in style and substance. "BM" has a lot of things pleasing to the ear, but on a much smaller, narrower (if that's a word) scale then "AOA".

Who really cares though. Can't we love both? I for one am super stoked to be listening to a new D'Angelo record after all these years. I'm also still super stoked to be listening to a new relatively new P record as well..

Graycap23 said:

SmiggyG said:

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To each their own but I don't see what the big fuss is with Black Messiah at all. It's not the 2nd coming or anything. (no pun) It's definatley a good listen and all but way over-hyped here @ the Org.

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All the shit Prince takes about AOA being lame and he's had years to come up with something better. Well on that note I feel Black Messiah is underwhelming when he's had 14 years.

at least a couple of people are awake. I like the cd but comments about smoking Prince are just plain silly.

Argreed Graycap. Not even a close comparison at this point. Like I've said, it's good. Not on P's level though. Nowhere near...

No one will ever be as great as Prince, and even Prince knows it:

Ask ur mother ur sister ur brotha
There'll never b another
Never b another like me