Reply #180 posted 11/26/14 1:29am
ilo |
He's a jack of all trades and exceptional at some, master in a couple. But he's not God.
I'd hate it if the only music available was by Prince. I think after a few months I'd shove boiled carrots in my ears. |
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Reply #181 posted 11/26/14 1:40am
ilo |
Aerogram said: TrevorAyer said:
ethanthomas said:
TrevorAyer said:
prince will never be a respected rapper like say BIG .. just because prince tries to rap does not mean he can rap .. just because prince tries to play rock does not mean he is good at it .. dreamer will never touch voodoo chile or even p's own good songs .. yes hendrix will never to a housequake but prince will never record something as good as voodoo chile .. prince cant play jazz .. his rnb is repetative and boring .. his "jamming" is often awful (just listen to the undertaker) .. saying prince is better because he is more well rounded than other musicians is a garbage comparison ... prince fails at most genres he attempts .. he cant even record his own hits properly .. eg ... NC2U ... he is a good songwriter at times and when surrounded by the right musicians makes great music .. he is not better than tons and tons of other musicians .. and he certainly cant write the style they are all great at .. he tries but its just not very good or worthy of note .. as confirmed by the rest of the world
LoL.....with all due respect, i've seen your clips on Youtube, your guitar strumming consists of stuff I learned in highschool guitar class and you seem unable or unwilling to keep your voice in tune. I don't believe you have the requiste bona fides to criticize anyone who actually makes a living as musician or a singer, let alone Prince.
Keep practicing though.....
that was from 20 years ago .. here is me destroying Cookie Jar/erotic city better than 3eg could ever dream .. https://trevorayer.bandca...government .. this is a recent rehearsal tape i overdubbed a little .. mostly live .. overdubs in one pass .. bite me Either your dealer or your pharmacist need to cut your supply by half. It's nice you believe in yourself, but watch out for grandiosity and megalomania. Umm, okay you have a unique take on it but for me it's not something I'd want to pay for or go see. But that's the great thing about music and art, there is so much room for expression and appreciation. |
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Reply #182 posted 11/26/14 3:50pm
callimnate |
BobGeorge909 said:
callimnate said:
This man gets my vote.
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A true musician, and an all round nice guy.
Which means, he's one up on Prince already.
Yeah...i heard some stuff by him recently and send some interviews and over the years my view of him has drastically changed. I used to just think he was riding his nirvana fame for some kicks but the truth was the exact opposite. I think his route of unconventional musical education and techniques borne of that add to his appeal. Very much like prince, he can accept imperfect if the performance is intriguing nontheless. As long as the guts there, it good. Also very much like prince, he stresses hard work, dedication, and the love of your work and what you do will bring you success...maybe not sales...but success.
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Dave Grohl and the Foos really filled the void during the late 90's till now.
Their previous album Wasting Light is something that ALL ageing artists should inspire to.
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After a few lack luster releases, they showed everyone that they could release a great album, by just embracing the old with the new.
Something Prince has tried but failed in. |
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Reply #183 posted 11/26/14 4:01pm
Aerogram |
Come to think of it, there's so many people that think they are better than Prince. |
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Reply #184 posted 11/27/14 5:20am
duccichucka |
Prince's showmanship is unparalled. Musically, he hasn't been relevant or interesting since
1987, like Rusty said on the first page of this thread.
If there is anybody better than Prince in pop music, it's gotta be Paul McCartney. He's just as
gifted a musician that Prince is. And if you think about it, Prince's influence (which is under-
whelming) is nowhere near the amount of influence that McCartney has had in music and our
culture.
Prince is the most disappointing musician; since Sign 'O' The Times, he's released utter
bullshit. And this from the most interesting and perfect pop musician since Macca. |
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Reply #185 posted 11/27/14 6:56am
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Reply #187 posted 11/29/14 5:32am
warning2all |
Paul McCartney & Neil Finn are better than Prince.
I would rather have their discographies. Their legacys are about beautiful music and good lyrics
And their songs lyrics aren't ever about bragging, anger, record companies or judgemental like Princes have become more & more. |
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Reply #188 posted 11/30/14 2:23pm
MotownSubdivis ion |
Graycap23 said:
dm3857 said:
SoulAlive said:
That's false.Michael wrote most of his biggest hits ("Don't Stop Til' You Get Enough","Beat It","Billie Jean").The latter,in fact,became his signature song.
I dont understand why so many people dismiss MJ because he didn't "play an instrument" , although that is true, he was a composer, he heard music in his mind and vocally recorded what sounds/rhythms he wanted the music to have.
& most of his biggest hits were actually written by him. "Don't Stop Till You Get Enough", "Wanna Be Startin Something" , "Beat It" , "Billie Jean" , "Bad" , "The Way You Make Me Feel", "I Just Can't Stop Loving You" , "Dirty Diana" , "Smooth Criminal" , "Black or White" etc..
U answered your own question. But why? That doesn't (and shouldn't) take anything away from MJ yet people on here use that as a major reason why Prince is better. That's crap and an unfair comparison to use. If playing a physical instrument makes someone a better artist then by that logic, Tito is a better artist than MJ. |
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Reply #189 posted 11/30/14 9:39pm
funkyrake |
MotownSubdivision said:
Graycap23 said:
U answered your own question.
But why? That doesn't (and shouldn't) take anything away from MJ yet people on here use that as a major reason why Prince is better. That's crap and an unfair comparison to use. If playing a physical instrument makes someone a better artist then by that logic, Tito is a better artist than MJ.
I very much like the fact that Prince is multi-instrumental. I feel it puts him in touch with his music in a closer more cerebral way. Writing, feeling, playing, humming, rhymeing, talking it out, then singing it, shouting it, releasing energy and emotion. The instrument becoming the extension of the man. The Leaf Shall Inherit The Earth. |
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Reply #190 posted 12/01/14 12:52am
Scarfo |
MJ ALWAYS showed love towards his fans! Something Prince fails miserbly at, time and time again.
MJ ALWAYS put out music he knew his fans would love. Something Prince (due to his arrogance, and lost his creativity post 90's) fails time and time again. That's why it sound silly when anyone claim Prince is better than Michael Jackson. Prince is clearly outclassed, in every way, except on how many instruments he learned to play. Which is a silly argument, because a instrument is used to make music! Michael Jackson clearly dominates Prince in terms of music. That's NOT opinion, that's fact. |
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Reply #191 posted 12/01/14 5:36am
jaawwnn |
Oh no, someone forgot to lock the door on the Michael Jackson fans thread again. |
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Reply #192 posted 12/01/14 6:01am
Graycap23 |
Scarfo said:
MJ ALWAYS showed love towards his fans! Something Prince fails miserbly at, time and time again.
MJ ALWAYS put out music he knew his fans would love. Something Prince (due to his arrogance, and lost his creativity post 90's) fails time and time again. That's why it sound silly when anyone claim Prince is better than Michael Jackson. Prince is clearly outclassed, in every way, except on how many instruments he learned to play. Which is a silly argument, because a instrument is used to make music! Michael Jackson clearly dominates Prince in terms of music. That's NOT opinion, that's fact.
FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent. |
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Reply #193 posted 12/01/14 6:03am
Graycap23 |
MotownSubdivision said:
Graycap23 said:
U answered your own question.
But why? That doesn't (and shouldn't) take anything away from MJ yet people on here use that as a major reason why Prince is better. That's crap and an unfair comparison to use. If playing a physical instrument makes someone a better artist then by that logic, Tito is a better artist than MJ.
If u make a list of say the TOP 50 skill sets related to making music, Mj would outclass Prince in one or 2. That is just my poinion. FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent. |
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Reply #194 posted 12/01/14 6:41am
datdude |
warning2all said:
Paul McCartney & Neil Finn are better than Prince. I would rather have their discographies. Their legacys are about beautiful music and good lyrics And their songs lyrics aren't ever about bragging, anger, record companies or judgemental like Princes have become more & more.
Who the F*@# is Neil Finn. I'm sorry, new rule, but if I have to Google you, (unless you're a classical musician or something) you're not better. Maybe one day i'll get into Macca but i'm not a Beatles fan. Good to know he's that talented, not diverse, but.... |
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Reply #195 posted 12/01/14 8:00am
leonche64 |
datdude said:
warning2all said:
Paul McCartney & Neil Finn are better than Prince. I would rather have their discographies. Their legacys are about beautiful music and good lyrics And their songs lyrics aren't ever about bragging, anger, record companies or judgemental like Princes have become more & more.
Who the F*@# is Neil Finn. I'm sorry, new rule, but if I have to Google you, (unless you're a classical musician or something) you're not better. Maybe one day i'll get into Macca but i'm not a Beatles fan. Good to know he's that talented, not diverse, but....
See, I did not want to say anything, just in case I have been sleeping over here in China, but I knew I could not have been sleeping that long. I ain't never been so tired that I would miss a decades long rise and fall of someone greater than those mentioned. Now ya'll come on, you didn't know who the F*@# Neil Finn was either. Fess up. |
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Reply #196 posted 12/01/14 8:08am
Graycap23 |
leonche64 said:
datdude said:
Who the F*@# is Neil Finn. I'm sorry, new rule, but if I have to Google you, (unless you're a classical musician or something) you're not better. Maybe one day i'll get into Macca but i'm not a Beatles fan. Good to know he's that talented, not diverse, but....
See, I did not want to say anything, just in case I have been sleeping over here in China, but I knew I could not have been sleeping that long. I ain't never been so tired that I would miss a decades long rise and fall of someone greater than those mentioned. Now ya'll come on, you didn't know who the F*@# Neil Finn was either. Fess up.
Never heard of Finn......and McCartney is thee most overrated artist in the history of mankind. FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent. |
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Reply #197 posted 12/01/14 8:26am
TheEnglishGent |
datdude said:
warning2all said:
Paul McCartney & Neil Finn are better than Prince. I would rather have their discographies. Their legacys are about beautiful music and good lyrics And their songs lyrics aren't ever about bragging, anger, record companies or judgemental like Princes have become more & more.
Who the F*@# is Neil Finn. I'm sorry, new rule, but if I have to Google you, (unless you're a classical musician or something) you're not better. Maybe one day i'll get into Macca but i'm not a Beatles fan. Good to know he's that talented, not diverse, but....
Wasn't he the janitor in Scrubs? RIP |
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Reply #198 posted 12/01/14 2:42pm
MotownSubdivis ion |
Graycap23 said:
MotownSubdivision said:
Graycap23 said: But why? That doesn't (and shouldn't) take anything away from MJ yet people on here use that as a major reason why Prince is better. That's crap and an unfair comparison to use. If playing a physical instrument makes someone a better artist then by that logic, Tito is a better artist than MJ.
If u make a list of say the TOP 50 skill sets related to making music, Mj would outclass Prince in one or 2. That is just my poinion.
50? That sounds like a bit much there. What skill sets are we talking about here? |
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Reply #199 posted 12/01/14 5:56pm
Graycap23 |
MotownSubdivision said:
Graycap23 said:
If u make a list of say the TOP 50 skill sets related to making music, Mj would outclass Prince in one or 2. That is just my poinion.
50? That sounds like a bit much there. What skill sets are we talking about here?
Do u have any idea what it takes 2 create an album from start 2 finish and how many people and skill sets are involved? FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent. |
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Reply #200 posted 12/01/14 6:33pm
FunkyD |
Scarfo said:
MJ ALWAYS showed love towards his fans! Something Prince fails miserbly at, time and time again.
MJ ALWAYS put out music he knew his fans would love. Something Prince (due to his arrogance, and lost his creativity post 90's) fails time and time again. That's why it sound silly when anyone claim Prince is better than Michael Jackson. Prince is clearly outclassed, in every way, except on how many instruments he learned to play. Which is a silly argument, because a instrument is used to make music! Michael Jackson clearly dominates Prince in terms of music. That's NOT opinion, that's fact.
Yep. MJ payed attention to his fans and what they wanted when he made music. Prince cares only about himself and what he wants.
and It's hard to relate to a lot of songs he writes since they are only comprehensible to him.
With MJ we understand where he was coming from with the songs he wrote and as a result people relate more.
At this point I feel Prince only writes songs for himself to keep him from going crazy. People ain't got time to figure out and decode his lyrics though.
And Prince's ability to play everything and do everything on his own became disadvantage for him.
It made his ego bigger and didn't allow him to get creative input from others which diminished the quality of his work.
Being able to collaborate and be open to criticism is something Prince lacks.
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Reply #201 posted 12/01/14 6:35pm
Marrk
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Graycap23 said:
Scarfo said:
MJ ALWAYS showed love towards his fans! Something Prince fails miserbly at, time and time again.
MJ ALWAYS put out music he knew his fans would love. Something Prince (due to his arrogance, and lost his creativity post 90's) fails time and time again. That's why it sound silly when anyone claim Prince is better than Michael Jackson. Prince is clearly outclassed, in every way, except on how many instruments he learned to play. Which is a silly argument, because a instrument is used to make music! Michael Jackson clearly dominates Prince in terms of music. That's NOT opinion, that's fact.
It's kind of true though. Ultimately MJ is more beloved than Prince. There's a reason he appealed to more people. Just maybe it was the quality of the music an the attention to detail, he knew the business AND the business still wants to know him. I spun Xscape just yesterday and where was Art Official Age? oooh only about a month ago. Filed under another disappointing Prince album. Zombie Mike wins 2014.
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Reply #202 posted 12/02/14 12:35am
jaawwnn |
Marrk said:
Graycap23 said:
It's kind of true though. Ultimately MJ is more beloved than Prince. There's a reason he appealed to more people. Just maybe it was the quality of the music an the attention to detail, he knew the business AND the business still wants to know him. I spun Xscape just yesterday and where was Art Official Age? oooh only about a month ago. Filed under another disappointing Prince album. Zombie Mike wins 2014.
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compare with a best of unreleased prince 1980-2014 and see who wins. Well actually of course MJ fans tend to fall under the syncophantic lunatic category so MJ will always win with them but assuming you're capable of looking at things critically, see who wins. Oh and I do agree MJ will always be more beloved than prince, just one of the many reasons I prefer Prince. |
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Reply #203 posted 12/02/14 3:11am
MotownSubdivis ion |
Graycap23 said:
MotownSubdivision said:
Graycap23 said:
If u make a list of say the TOP 50 skill sets related to making music, Mj would outclass Prince in one or 2. That is just my poinion.
50? That sounds like a bit much there. What skill sets are we talking about here?
Do u have any idea what it takes 2 create an album from start 2 finish and how many people and skill sets are involved? No, so break it down for me. |
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Reply #204 posted 12/02/14 5:47am
Graycap23 |
Marrk said:
Graycap23 said:
It's kind of true though. Ultimately MJ is more beloved than Prince. There's a reason he appealed to more people. Just maybe it was the quality of the music an the attention to detail, he knew the business AND the business still wants to know him. I spun Xscape just yesterday and where was Art Official Age? oooh only about a month ago. Filed under another disappointing Prince album. Zombie Mike wins 2014.
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Don't agree. Mj understood marketing and the power of Video. That is all. FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent. |
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Reply #205 posted 12/02/14 6:16am
FunkyD |
Graycap23 said:
Marrk said:
It's kind of true though. Ultimately MJ is more beloved than Prince. There's a reason he appealed to more people. Just maybe it was the quality of the music an the attention to detail, he knew the business AND the business still wants to know him. I spun Xscape just yesterday and where was Art Official Age? oooh only about a month ago. Filed under another disappointing Prince album. Zombie Mike wins 2014.
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Don't agree. Mj understood marketing and the power of Video. That is all.
that's a lot.. to be able to come up with the songs and present them the way he did is what sets him a part. Prince dosen't have the vision that MJ had to pull it off like he did.
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Reply #206 posted 12/02/14 6:41am
Graycap23 |
FunkyD said:
Graycap23 said:
Don't agree. Mj understood marketing and the power of Video. That is all.
that's a lot.. to be able to come up with the songs and present them the way he did is what sets him a part. Prince dosen't have the vision that MJ had to pull it off like he did.
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Prince's focuses on MUSIC. Mj focused on sales and Video. FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent. |
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Reply #207 posted 12/02/14 6:57am
FunkyD |
Graycap23 said:
FunkyD said:
that's a lot.. to be able to come up with the songs and present them the way he did is what sets him a part. Prince dosen't have the vision that MJ had to pull it off like he did.
[Edited 12/2/14 6:32am]
Prince's focuses on MUSIC. Mj focused on sales and Video.
Wasn't MJ known to be a perfectionist? the quality of the songs did matter to MJ.. [Edited 12/2/14 6:58am] |
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Reply #208 posted 12/02/14 6:59am
Graycap23 |
FunkyD said:
Graycap23 said:
Prince's focuses on MUSIC. Mj focused on sales and Video.
Wasn't MJ known to be a perfectionist? the quality of the songs did matter to MJ..
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Sorry dude.....those songs just aren't that good. The video's were GREAT though. FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent. |
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Reply #209 posted 12/02/14 7:12am
FunkyD |
Graycap23 said:
FunkyD said:
Wasn't MJ known to be a perfectionist? the quality of the songs did matter to MJ..
[Edited 12/2/14 6:58am]
Sorry dude.....those songs just aren't that good. The video's were GREAT though.
to each his own but even Prince digs it to the point where he covers some of his songs.. |
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