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Reply #60 posted 09/25/14 1:24pm

BobGeorge909

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dustoff said:



MinnetonkaNative said:


I liked all the songs except Marz. Its too racially oriented. He is kinda an extremist now when it comes to being black and what not. The real and original prince didn't care what skin color you were. He just wanted to make music and to love one another. Anyone know why Prince is so extreme about race now? I keep hearing people say Rainbow Children has racist lyrics I've never checked but maybe they are. Does it all have to do with this Jehovahs Witness nonsense?


"I couldn't watch another black child go to school with nothing to eat."


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If this is your idea of "extremism," you really need to get out of the house more often.



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Reply #61 posted 09/25/14 1:25pm

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Holy 💩

I think this is even betterer than AOA. The bass on Boytrouble is giving me full in funk face and 🍆🌽
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Reply #62 posted 09/25/14 1:35pm

mordang

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Fuck...this album is GREAT!!!!

Love it. Turn up the volume and let your ears bleed!!!!

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Reply #63 posted 09/25/14 1:44pm

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tatocorcu said:

And, as I mentioned earlier, we have witnessed the actual recording of the song...

Possibly. It's also possible that this group of proffessional musicians could play the same song twice...

RIP sad
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Reply #64 posted 09/25/14 1:46pm

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BobGeorge909 said:

dustoff said:

"I couldn't watch another black child go to school with nothing to eat."

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If this is your idea of "extremism," you really need to get out of the house more often.

lol

LOL

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Reply #65 posted 09/25/14 1:50pm

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I think this album is a little gem. Boy Trouble doesn't fit, should have been Screwdriver. Another Love is the fave at the moment. I think this will get more spins that AOA in the long run.

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Reply #66 posted 09/25/14 1:56pm

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TheEnglishGent said:



tatocorcu said:


And, as I mentioned earlier, we have witnessed the actual recording of the song...

Possibly. It's also possible that this group of proffessional musicians could play the same song twice...


While you do have a point, I like my idea better 😜
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Reply #67 posted 09/25/14 1:57pm

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Listened to the whole album first time.

For me this album could be a grower. A solid album with some ups and downs,

maybe not that guitar heavy what i expected but i´m fine with that.

Plectrumelectrum is not that kind of album i ´m like "wow, what a great piece of work",

rather like a second rate choice of Prince songs that are pretty well produced and put 2gether.

Highlights:

WOW - good opener, nice guitar work and well produced

WHITECAPS - reminds a bit of Weny & Lisa

ANOTHERLOVE - best and outstanding track imo, great production overall incl vocals and guitar work

TICTACTOE - catchy song, easy listening at its best

Don´t like:

Marz - this song is a mash, no texture, only song i might skip when listening to the album

And: the version of FUNKROLL from AoA > Plectrumelectrum

I´m looking forward to listen to the whole AoA album 2morrow.

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Reply #68 posted 09/25/14 2:10pm

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tatocorcu said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Possibly. It's also possible that this group of proffessional musicians could play the same song twice...

While you do have a point, I like my idea better 😜

I like your idea too. biggrin

RIP sad
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Reply #69 posted 09/25/14 2:14pm

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The real surprise is Tic Tac Toe. This is such a clever piece of dreamy Prince pop. Exquisite.

Wow, Another Love and Funknroll also stand out.
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Reply #70 posted 09/25/14 2:20pm

tab32792

Tic tac Toe could've fit perfectly for Wendy and Lisa. great song.

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Reply #71 posted 09/25/14 3:06pm

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I think the tracks with Prince on vocals range from good to great. But the tracks with Hannah? Hmm. I find Whitecaps pleasant but forgettable. The rest sound like some shitty band playing a lame bar in a Milwaukee suburb. You buy their CD because you were trying to be nice and they seemed friendly. Listen to it once. Toss it in the closet.
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Reply #72 posted 09/25/14 3:11pm

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I must say I'm rather suprised at how much I'm enjoying this, given that my heart sank somewhat upon hearing some of the samples (particularly Boytrouble, which frankly I doubt will ever endear itself to me, I might replace it with the Screwdriver remix in my playlist of the album.) But yeah, although there are definitely some dodgy moments (the chorus of Tictactoe, Hannah's vocal on Aintturninround) overall I'm really impressed with how much this album rocks, there are some great balls out guitar moments, and I rather like the dreamy pop of Whitecaps and Tictactoe (aside from aforementioned chorus) as well. So discovering this album was a nice surprise, look forward to giving it a relisten.

Heavenly wine and roses seems to whisper to me when you smile...
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Reply #73 posted 09/25/14 3:44pm

egansmind

Here is my take on Plectrum Electrum

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FAVOURITES IN ORDER

Wow!

Stop This Train

Funk N Roll

Fix U R Life Up

Another Love

Boy Trouble

WhiteCaps

Pretzelbodylogic

Marz

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DO NOT LIKE IN ORDER

Aint Turnin Round

Tic Tac Toe

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So thats 9 out of 11. That was far higher than I thought

I like 7 our of 12 on AOA

Quite a few slating Boy Trouble but I think its pretty cool and I love Stop This Train, groovy although both those tracks wouldnt look out of place on AOA

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Reply #74 posted 09/25/14 4:57pm

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NouveauDance said:

This album is great. It's another Lotusflow3r/MPLSound situation for me. Two albums at the same time, one great one sucks. And again it's the rockier one that wins and the mid-tempo R&B ballad heavy one that falls flat on it's face.

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I immediately want to put it on repeat - Wow, White Caps, Anotherlove, Boy Trouble are all great. I missed a few tracks by doing stuff in another room, but just from what I've heard so far THIS is the new Prince album.

Not really its the opposite. In this case the rock album Pectumwhateverthefuck... is the lesser album.

You wanting to put White Caps on repeat should be a major concern. Its sounds like some 12 year girl wrote it. Although I do like the music. The vocal delivery and lyric are downright embarassing

The title track, Wow, and Anotherlove caught my attention ...other than that, that thing is some hot doo doo

Dance... Let me see you dance
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Reply #75 posted 09/25/14 4:58pm

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IstenSzek said:

it's Lotusflower/MPLSound, only reversed. with that release i absolutely adored Lotusflower

(still do) and loved a few tracks from MPLSound, but never listen to it as an album.

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this time around i'm impressed with and liking AOA a whole lot more and the rock album is

a mixed bag for me. some great tracks, but pretty much hate everything without prince on

vocals. and all those screaming chorusses. already deleted a few songs from it since they

got on my nerves before they were through the very first run. don't really care for the title

track either, never did, but at least the 2:30 minute version was over quicker

lol

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01. Wow

02. Pretzelbodylogic

03. Screwdriver

04. PlectrumElectrum

05. FixurLifeUp

06. Anotherlove

07. TicTacToe

08. Marz

09. FunkNroll

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"stop this train" is pretty nice, but not for this album. but who knows i might end up loving

this album, strangers things happen in prince land over time.

yep thats how I see it

Dance... Let me see you dance
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Reply #76 posted 09/25/14 4:59pm

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Alexandernvrmind said:



NouveauDance said:


This album is great. It's another Lotusflow3r/MPLSound situation for me. Two albums at the same time, one great one sucks. And again it's the rockier one that wins and the mid-tempo R&B ballad heavy one that falls flat on it's face.


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I immediately want to put it on repeat - Wow, White Caps, Anotherlove, Boy Trouble are all great. I missed a few tracks by doing stuff in another room, but just from what I've heard so far THIS is the new Prince album.




Not really its the opposite. In this case the rock album Pectumwhateverthefuck... is the lesser album.



You wanting to put White Caps on repeat should be a major concern. Its sounds like some 12 year girl wrote it. Although I do like the music. The vocal delivery and lyric are downright embarassing



The title track, Wow, and Anotherlove caught my attention ...other than that, that thing is some hot doo doo



I like the music in Whitecaps fine. Nothing spectacular. But the lyrics are dead grandma poetry at its worst.
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Reply #77 posted 09/25/14 4:59pm

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jasontate said:

Holy 💩 I think this is even betterer than AOA. The bass on Boytrouble is giving me full in funk face and 🍆🌽

lol ... boytrouble Lol

Dance... Let me see you dance
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Reply #78 posted 09/25/14 5:26pm

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Alexandernvrmind said:



NouveauDance said:


This album is great. It's another Lotusflow3r/MPLSound situation for me. Two albums at the same time, one great one sucks. And again it's the rockier one that wins and the mid-tempo R&B ballad heavy one that falls flat on it's face.


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I immediately want to put it on repeat - Wow, White Caps, Anotherlove, Boy Trouble are all great. I missed a few tracks by doing stuff in another room, but just from what I've heard so far THIS is the new Prince album.




Not really its the opposite. In this case the rock album Pectumwhateverthefuck... is the lesser album.



You wanting to put White Caps on repeat should be a major concern. Its sounds like some 12 year girl wrote it. Although I do like the music. The vocal delivery and lyric are downright embarassing



The title track, Wow, and Anotherlove caught my attention ...other than that, that thing is some hot doo doo


At least the hot doodoo part implies that its fresh.
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Reply #79 posted 09/25/14 5:42pm

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BobGeorge909 said:

Alexandernvrmind said:

Not really its the opposite. In this case the rock album Pectumwhateverthefuck... is the lesser album.

You wanting to put White Caps on repeat should be a major concern. Its sounds like some 12 year girl wrote it. Although I do like the music. The vocal delivery and lyric are downright embarassing

The title track, Wow, and Anotherlove caught my attention ...other than that, that thing is some hot doo doo

At least the hot doodoo part implies that its fresh.

fresh not good in this case

I'm listening to Whitecaps. The music deserves a better vocal treatement and lyrics... its shame. Something about those live drums bothers me too. Its too damn simple. i dont fuckin' know.

It sounds like something Meshell N'deochello would have killed back in her day... and she is not a great singer either but the metaphor would not have been so much better

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Dance... Let me see you dance
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Reply #80 posted 09/25/14 5:53pm

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Alexandernvrmind said:



BobGeorge909 said:


Alexandernvrmind said:



Not really its the opposite. In this case the rock album Pectumwhateverthefuck... is the lesser album.



You wanting to put White Caps on repeat should be a major concern. Its sounds like some 12 year girl wrote it. Although I do like the music. The vocal delivery and lyric are downright embarassing



The title track, Wow, and Anotherlove caught my attention ...other than that, that thing is some hot doo doo



At least the hot doodoo part implies that its fresh.


fresh not good in this case



I'm listening to Whitecaps. The music deserves a better vocal treatement and lyrics... its shame. Something about those live drums bothers me too. Its too damn simple. i dont fuckin' know.



It sounds like something Meshell N'deochello would have killed back in her day... and she is not a great singer either but the metaphor would not have been so much better


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The drumming all over PE needs some life. It's plodding and dull.
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Reply #81 posted 09/25/14 6:55pm

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Alexandernvrmind said:

BobGeorge909 said:

Alexandernvrmind said: At least the hot doodoo part implies that its fresh.

fresh not good in this case

I'm listening to Whitecaps. The music deserves a better vocal treatement and lyrics... its shame. Something about those live drums bothers me too. Its too damn simple. i dont fuckin' know.

It sounds like something Meshell N'deochello would have killed back in her day... and she is not a great singer either but the metaphor would not have been so much better


i think it would still get a pass from me, even with those lyrics, if prince were on vocals.

with him on vocals it would just be one of those brief, breezy little tunes he sometimes

throws out and have their own charm for all their silliness. but without prince on vocals
i just forget these kind of tracks the minute after i hear them. the exception in the later
era being andy allo's superconductor album. some real gems on that one, even if they

lack body and depth in places.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #82 posted 09/25/14 6:56pm

Askani

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I wish Stop This Train had a Prince lead vocal. I think it could end up being a classic.

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Reply #83 posted 09/25/14 6:56pm

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KingSausage said:

Alexandernvrmind said:



BobGeorge909 said:


Alexandernvrmind said:



Not really its the opposite. In this case the rock album Pectumwhateverthefuck... is the lesser album.



You wanting to put White Caps on repeat should be a major concern. Its sounds like some 12 year girl wrote it. Although I do like the music. The vocal delivery and lyric are downright embarassing



The title track, Wow, and Anotherlove caught my attention ...other than that, that thing is some hot doo doo



At least the hot doodoo part implies that its fresh.


fresh not good in this case



I'm listening to Whitecaps. The music deserves a better vocal treatement and lyrics... its shame. Something about those live drums bothers me too. Its too damn simple. i dont fuckin' know.



It sounds like something Meshell N'deochello would have killed back in her day... and she is not a great singer either but the metaphor would not have been so much better


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[Edited 9/25/14 17:43pm]



The drumming all over PE needs some life. It's plodding and dull.


She no Michal b but i think they found a way to make it effective. Prince is a sloppy drummer himself...don't 4get.
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Reply #84 posted 09/25/14 7:05pm

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Askani said:

I wish Stop This Train had a Prince lead vocal. I think it could end up being a classic.

indeed! i really like that song, even without prince singing. i know it sort of defeats

the whole point of the album, but i do wish prince was singing lead on all tracks smile

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this whole band thing would have probably worked better for both parties if they'd

recorded an actual 3rdEyeGirl record, with just the girls and prince helping out in

a few places. and then also a Prince rock record, with some help from the girls.

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it probably seems silly, but i'm quite sure i would enjoy hannah's vocals more if

they were on an album by 3rdEyeGirl alone. then you listen differently.

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case in point it Andy Allo. i loved her Superconductor album, because it was her

album, with prince on it, but still her album. so you knew what you were buying.

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and when she pops up on prince's songs, i really enjoy her there. but she's still

clearly a guest, not taking over entire songs on her own.

/

but with PE, since they swap lead on tracks, you just can't help thinking "oh, it's

got the makings of a cool tune, but sadly prince isn't taking lead on this"

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Reply #85 posted 09/25/14 7:15pm

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IstenSzek said:

Askani said:

I wish Stop This Train had a Prince lead vocal. I think it could end up being a classic.

indeed! i really like that song, even without prince singing. i know it sort of defeats

the whole point of the album, but i do wish prince was singing lead on all tracks smile

/

this whole band thing would have probably worked better for both parties if they'd

recorded an actual 3rdEyeGirl record, with just the girls and prince helping out in

a few places. and then also a Prince rock record, with some help from the girls.

/

it probably seems silly, but i'm quite sure i would enjoy hannah's vocals more if

they were on an album by 3rdEyeGirl alone. then you listen differently.

/

case in point it Andy Allo. i loved her Superconductor album, because it was her

album, with prince on it, but still her album. so you knew what you were buying.

/

and when she pops up on prince's songs, i really enjoy her there. but she's still

clearly a guest, not taking over entire songs on her own.

/

but with PE, since they swap lead on tracks, you just can't help thinking "oh, it's

got the makings of a cool tune, but sadly prince isn't taking lead on this"



yes, exactly. and my patience for Hannah (or any of these other girls who might or might not be singing- can't be bothered to figure it out), is a lot shorter than it was/is even for Andy Allo.

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Reply #86 posted 09/25/14 7:23pm

IstenSzek

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Askani said:

IstenSzek said:

indeed! i really like that song, even without prince singing. i know it sort of defeats

the whole point of the album, but i do wish prince was singing lead on all tracks smile

/

this whole band thing would have probably worked better for both parties if they'd

recorded an actual 3rdEyeGirl record, with just the girls and prince helping out in

a few places. and then also a Prince rock record, with some help from the girls.

/

it probably seems silly, but i'm quite sure i would enjoy hannah's vocals more if

they were on an album by 3rdEyeGirl alone. then you listen differently.

/

case in point it Andy Allo. i loved her Superconductor album, because it was her

album, with prince on it, but still her album. so you knew what you were buying.

/

and when she pops up on prince's songs, i really enjoy her there. but she's still

clearly a guest, not taking over entire songs on her own.

/

but with PE, since they swap lead on tracks, you just can't help thinking "oh, it's

got the makings of a cool tune, but sadly prince isn't taking lead on this"



yes, exactly. and my patience for Hannah (or any of these other girls who might or might not be singing- can't be bothered to figure it out), is a lot shorter than it was/is even for Andy Allo.

all of yesterday i has a sense of relief that i could not pin point and today it

hit me: there's no shelby J on Art Official Age falloff

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Reply #87 posted 09/25/14 7:24pm

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Noodled24 said:

Pretzelbodylogic

This has grown on me. The intro is annoying but it's a decent song overall. Prince on vocals




I think you just nailed why I've never liked this song. It's the intro.


Over the last few years, I've had a major problem with a few of his pop-rock offerings (PBL, FULU, Cause & Effect), and I'd already narrowed it down to the fact that the he uses layers upon layers of vocals for these songs and it just doesn't really work and drains a lot of the rawness and fire away from the songs by making them too slick.

but I was sort of zoned out this time listening to PBL and realized halfway through the song I was REALLY digging it for some reason.

when I read what you said above, I went to my iTunes and started the song at the 13 second mark (after the acapella multi-layered chorus is over) and started where the first beat and guitar stab comes in. IT IMPROVED THE SONG IMMENSELY. the multi-layered vocals here and the fact that they are acapella the first time has alwasy turned me off immediately and I have always struggled to get all the way through it when it comes on.

thank you! anyone that hates this song, try cutting off the first intro chorus and see if that helps you. obviously the son has other issues as well, but to me at least, it was much more pleasing without that bit.

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Reply #88 posted 09/25/14 7:28pm

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Even though bass players almost always get overlooked unless its a funk album, I'm surprised at how much I pay attention to the bass parts in this album. Ida has grown so much with her years with Prince, her playing is impeccable o this album in my opinion. You don't hear too much technical precision with Hannah's playing but for these types of songs its not really necessary and she does an ok job. With the guitar its hard to say what's Prince's doing and what's Donna's, but they're synergizing and sounding a lot better together now than they did when I saw them on their first 3EG US tour.

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I'm going to wait to rate the songs, because I found that my first opinon sometimes changes. I hated whitecaps when that was leaked and I now love it, so I'll revisit this thread in a few days after its all sunken in.

Change it one more time..
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Reply #89 posted 09/25/14 7:52pm

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Askani said:

I wish Stop This Train had a Prince lead vocal.

nod Yes!

Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
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