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Reply #90 posted 01/22/14 4:35am

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Getting sued for sharing Let's Go Crazy "Reloaded" lol lol

The karnt should PAY them for get that out there!

lol lol lol

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Reply #91 posted 01/22/14 5:03am

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I wonder what would happen if those who criticize Prince were writing a book and weren't happy with 50 pages, but someone stole them and released them without permission.

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That's simply ignorance of what intellectual or artistic creation is. Plain ignorance.

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Reply #92 posted 01/22/14 5:20am

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come on..its clear the playing field ...thats all

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Reply #93 posted 01/22/14 5:27am

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I kinda understand him but I think what's hes doin does more harm than good at this point of his career. He's aware of that he can't stop the bootleggers so this is just pointless and upsets his fans more, the relationship between prince and his fans always gets damaged by this kind of silly actions
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Reply #94 posted 01/22/14 5:28am

jaawwnn

Prince is of course well within his rights to do this, the law is the law.

I'd guess that if someone presented him with hard figures on loss of earnings from the bad feeling that come from this kind of clumsy lawsuit he might be willing to consider the issue at hand.

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Reply #95 posted 01/22/14 6:08am

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It's a scandalous shame, though I suspect P only does that to scare the shit outta every one wanting 2 share boots and will withdraw the lawsuits. I mean if these poeple had to pay 1 million bucks it'd basically mean their lives would be ruined... forever! Little to do with "love 4 1 another", would it? It already happened in 2002 with that dude from freeyourheart.com who'd shared a few ONA Tour tracks. P threatened to sue the life outta him, he withdrew, P withdrew the charges. The media for one thing would butcher him if he was to really sue these people who never made a dime out of sharing boots.

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Reply #96 posted 01/22/14 6:13am

luvsexy4all

u people need to stop insulting him EVERYTIME this stuff happens...he knows what hes doing

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Reply #97 posted 01/22/14 7:00am

CocoRock

nursev said:

This muthafuckka right here...does a whole lotta snitching around here.

What muthafuckka right where?! lol lol lol
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Reply #98 posted 01/22/14 7:01am

CocoRock

NinaB said:



KCOOLMUZIQ said:


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About time! It needs 2B stop ASAP.....








Who you kidding?


You aint got no boots?


....yeah right



Right?!
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Reply #99 posted 01/22/14 7:03am

CocoRock

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This lawsuit is a waste of time.In this day and age,if something is out there,you should just let it be.Prince's music has been heavily bootlegged since the 80s.There's no point in trying to stop it now lol Let the fans enjoy it,trade it and have fun with it.


This, and only this.
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Reply #100 posted 01/22/14 7:04am

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luvsexy4all said:

u people need to stop insulting him EVERYTIME this stuff happens...he knows what hes doing

Well I'm always defending Prince here but on this one I can understand the anger. Putting the sites down is one thing and it's fair enough, but asking people who probably have ordinary incomes and never made a profit of their sharing activities to pay 1 million bucks is basically condemning them to starvation for the rest of their lives. I'm quite certain, though, as stated above, that Prince will withdraw charges before it gets to that, but the mere idea of him not doing so is atrocious: can you imagine the panic the dudes behind these sites must be in?

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Reply #101 posted 01/22/14 7:04am

luvsexy4all

u should be excited ..it does mean the new cd is coming soon

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Reply #102 posted 01/22/14 7:08am

murph

OzlemUcucu said:

murph said:

Has this made the news yet? I haven't seen any reports on this....

The only news is that he's denouncing worldwide 'private people's names worldwide. Somebody should sue him for causing bad reputation. I doubt a public figure as him is entitled by law to cause such harm and no he wouldn't be entitled 1M from each doe 1- 100 for shitty sound quality bootlegs that are hardly distributed.

He's thinking he just released a new album? What world is he living in? lol

Again...I need to see real reports on this...We all know how Prince can get down...But there were actual reports about dude going after the sites....This? I want to see some journalistic reports on this...As is, it's just sky-is-falling noise...

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Reply #103 posted 01/22/14 7:09am

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An exercise in futility, which is why Prince is a has-been and irrelevant now.

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Reply #104 posted 01/22/14 7:12am

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dualboot said:

(not directly serious but just a thought)

Can you countersue?

For providing a basis/platform for indirect income over the years. You can argue (succesfully) that a large portion of his income over the last 20 years found his basis in these recordings.

Sure. You can sue (or countersue) anybody for anything.... IF you have the money and IF you have the time.

Prince has lots of money AND lots of time.

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Reply #105 posted 01/22/14 7:14am

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nursev said:

If it wasnt for bootleggers his career wouldve been over years ago. He has done so much to make people forget him and they have. Yes bootlegging is wrong, but how long is he gonna pursue these lawsuits? And who is next? Dude will even go after regular ass fans...really sad.

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Reply #106 posted 01/22/14 7:15am

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CocoRock said:

NinaB said:

Who you kidding?

You aint got no boots?

....yeah right

Right?! lol

You know he does! and if he says he doesn't (which he will because he's just that predictable) he's L-Y-I-N-G.

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Reply #107 posted 01/22/14 7:17am

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dualboot said:

(not directly serious but just a thought)

Can you countersue?

For providing a basis/platform for indirect income over the years. You can argue (succesfully) that a large portion of his income over the last 20 years found his basis in these recordings.

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol no. you cannot

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Reply #108 posted 01/22/14 7:17am

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jaawwnn said:

novabrkr said:

He probably knows because he performed that snippet of "Moonbeam Levels" live soon after the Costello performance.

Track 9 on this

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i've always wondered if he got permission, it's not even the correct title...

[Edited 1/22/14 4:11am]

Was In A Large Room With No Light technically released. I know we all have the "official" version, but, was it released, or was it a temporary stream that was not "supposed" to be saved? IIRC, it's the latter...

Maybe he doesn't know the real title (only heard bootlegs), maybe he's trying to obscure it so Prince won't notice?

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Reply #109 posted 01/22/14 7:25am

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luvsexy4all said:

u should be excited ..it does mean the new cd is coming soon

No matter how looking forward to hearing the next album I am, I can't see myself being xcited at the idea of people's lives being ruined, or at the idea of them being scared to death until they know the outcome of this situation. Their lives is more precious than my pleasure at seeing a new P album being released, + I was more than happy to get some of the stuff these people were sharing for free instead of buying xpensive boots from people who all got away with making dough outta someone else's work like I had to do in the 90's because free downloads weren't an option then.

I didn't "insult" Prince here anyway, I've just shared my concern regarding this whole situation and my hopes that these people will be left alone when Prince will consider that they've learned a good lesson, which I'm sure they have.

I totally respect P's wishes not to have bootlegs of his work around even though I'm glad these bootlegs exist for me to listen to, but I think sending a C&D and/or taking the blogs down is more than enough. Or then why not ask a million bucks to every folk sharing his videos (and seeing them put down) on YT every day while we're at it. There must be a sense of measure. Morally speaking the annoyance these bootlegs sharers have caused Prince certainly isn't worth their lives being destroyed. Now contrarely to many here I still have a lot of respect for Prince as a person and I'm quite sure he won't go to such extremes in the end. But until he withdraws, my compassion goes to these people who must be in a total state of shock - I certainly would if someone was sueing me for a million bucks lol

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Reply #110 posted 01/22/14 7:25am

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djThunderfunk said:

jaawwnn said:

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Was it technically released. I know we all have the "official" version, but, was it released, or was it a temporary stream that was not "supposed" to be saved? IIRC, it's the latter...

Maybe he doesn't know the real title (only heard bootlegs), maybe he's trying to obscure it so Prince won't notice?

I believe the some guy's version came out before the prince stream. Someone on here dug up some personnell connection between this guy and prince but i've forgotten exactly what it was. Something along the lines of he's worked with people who have worked with Prince.

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Reply #111 posted 01/22/14 7:26am

CocoRock

One other thing of interest to me is that all of the songs listed in the posted legal documents have been officially released. I wonder if unreleased stuff has a copyright. hmmm geek
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Reply #112 posted 01/22/14 7:28am

CocoRock

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One other thing of interest to me is that all of the songs listed in the posted legal documents have been officially released. I wonder if unreleased stuff has a copyright. hmmm geek

Never mind. Just saw somebody else mentioned it. lol
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Reply #113 posted 01/22/14 7:33am

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djThunderfunk said:

jaawwnn said:

Track 9 on this

http://www.allmusic.com/a...0002415120

i've always wondered if he got permission, it's not even the correct title...

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Was In A Large Room With No Light technically released. I know we all have the "official" version, but, was it released, or was it a temporary stream that was not "supposed" to be saved? IIRC, it's the latter...

Maybe Allan Smithee doesn't know the real title (only heard bootlegs), maybe he's trying to obscure it so Prince won't notice?

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Some German band had already released that song (on WB Europe IIRC!!!) in the late 80's or early 90's under a false title and got away with it. Allan Smithee's album dates back from 2009 but IDK what month. I guess if it was after the song was streamed it could be legal even though IDK if covers are free for songs that were only aired or streamed as they are for songs that received proper release (I guess there's no law about that and it would need to be ruled by a judge). There's another problem here, though: Prince never copyrighted IALRWNL at ASCAP (I've just checked) so basically I guess you can't cover a song if it's not copyrighted because u can't pay the royalties. So now thanks to you posting about it here I guess this poor guy's life is ruined for P will sue his life away from him neutral

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Reply #114 posted 01/22/14 7:37am

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Reply #115 posted 01/22/14 7:39am

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databank said:

So now thanks to you posting about it here I guess this poor guy's life is ruined for P will sue his life away from him neutral

nod It's for sure that Prince's spies are reading this thread, so, Prince knows about this cover now.

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Reply #116 posted 01/22/14 7:49am

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databank said:

djThunderfunk said:

Was it technically released. I know we all have the "official" version, but, was it released, or was it a temporary stream that was not "supposed" to be saved? IIRC, it's the latter...

Maybe he doesn't know the real title (only heard bootlegs), maybe he's trying to obscure it so Prince won't notice?

[Edited 1/22/14 7:22am]

Some German band had already released that song (on WB Europe IIRC!!!) in the late 80's or early 90's under a false title and got away with it. his album dates back from 2009 but IDK what month. I guess if it was after the song was streamed it could be legal even though IDK if covers are free for songs that were only aired or streamed as they are for songs that received proper release (I guess there's no law about that and it would need to be ruled by a judge). There's another problem here, though: Prince never copyrighted it (I've just checked) so basically I guess you can't cover a song if it's not copyrighted because u can't pay the royalties. So now thanks to you posting about it here I guess this poor guy's life is ruined for P will sue his life away from him neutral

Yep it's all my fault. I'm actually a member of

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Reply #117 posted 01/22/14 7:50am

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tab32792 said:

NinaB said:



KCOOLMUZIQ said:


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About time! It needs 2B stop ASAP.....








Who you kidding?


You aint got no boots?


....yeah right




That's what I'm saying. No way you're a REAL prince fan with no boots




I definitely seen her talking about unreleased songs in various threads. No way does she have no boots smile
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Reply #118 posted 01/22/14 7:56am

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luv4u said:

Will he be remembered more for his music or suing fans?

He is not "suing fans". He's suing people who have distributed his art ilegally.

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Reply #119 posted 01/22/14 7:56am

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jaawwnn said:

databank said:

Some German band had already released that song (on WB Europe IIRC!!!) in the late 80's or early 90's under a false title and got away with it. Allan Smithee's album dates back from 2009 but IDK what month. I guess if it was after the song was streamed it could be legal even though IDK if covers are free for songs that were only aired or streamed as they are for songs that received proper release (I guess there's no law about that and it would need to be ruled by a judge). There's another problem here, though: Prince never copyrighted IALRWNL at ASCAP (I've just checked) so basically I guess you can't cover a song if it's not copyrighted because u can't pay the royalties. So now thanks to you posting about it here I guess this poor guy's life is ruined for P will sue his life away from him neutral

Yep it's all my fault. I'm actually a member of

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Sassey's gonna love that lol lol

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